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Trump's First Amendment claim in elections indictment questioned: report

Donald Trump’s defenders in the aftermath of his indictment on allegations he tried to overturn the 2020 election are claiming First Amendment protections shield the former president from legal jeopardy, but legal experts call the strategy dubious, The New York Times reports.

Special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment against Trump alleges that the former president pushed claims that the 2020 election was stolen even though he “knew that they were false.”

Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman write for The Times that Trump’s defender’s claim the former president “had every right to express views about election fraud that they say he believed, and still believes, to be true, and that the actions he took or proposed after the election were based on legal advice.”

“The indictment and his initial response set up a showdown between those two opposing assertions of principle: that what prosecutors in this case called ‘pervasive and destabilizing lies’ from the highest office in the land can be integral to criminal plans, and that political speech enjoys broad protections, especially when conveying what Mr. Trump’s allies say are sincerely held beliefs.”

The report notes that it will be left to a judge and jury to determine how to resolve these divergent assertions. Trump’s defenders in the aftermath of the indictment have come out swinging.

“So the First Amendment protects President Trump in this way: After 2020, he saw all these irregularities, he got affidavits from around the country, sworn testimony, he saw the rules being changed in the middle of the election process — as a president, he’s entitled to speak on those issues,” Trump attorney John Lauro said on Wednesday during a CBS News interview.

"What the government would have to prove in this case, beyond a reasonable doubt, is that speech is not protected by the First Amendment, and they’ll never be able to do that.”

The report notes that legal experts say an “individual’s free-speech rights essentially end as soon as those words become evidence of criminality.

One legal expert suggested the strategy is more likely to resonate in political than legal circles.

Duke University law professor Samuel W. Buell said that it “won’t work legally but it will have some appeal politically, which is why he is pushing it.”

“There is no First Amendment privilege to commit crimes just because you did it by speaking,” Buell told The Times.

Buell said that “there is no First Amendment privilege for giving directions or suggestions to other people to engage in illegal acts.”

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'His batting average is zero': Ex-prosecutor says Trump is using claim that has blown up in his face

As the federal grand jury that could hand down an indictment against former President Donald Trump for January 6 hears evidence, one person called in to speak to them was William Russell, a White House special assistant who was with the former president on the day that rioters stormed the Capitol to try to stop the electoral count on Trump's demand.

Trump's legal team is making a last-ditch ploy, alleging to the federal courts that this is a breach of executive privilege. But, former federal prosecutor Elie Honig told CNN, Trump has a long record of trying and failing to use executive privilege to immunize himself from investigation — and this time will likely be no different.

"This person was there with the former president on January 6th at the Ellipse, at that rally," said anchor Anderson Cooper. "So theoretically, he could testify to the mind frame of the former president. He could even verify things that [White House aide Cassidy] Hutchinson had said."

"He could testify to things like that," said fellow anchor Kaitlan Collins. "Remember, she was the one who when she testified before the congressional committee, talked about how Trump had said to remove the magnetometers, just let everybody in, who cares. They're not trying to hurt me, if they did have weapons, which obviously is what the magnetometers were for. Will Russell was there. There is video of this tent that was backstage before Trump got on stage and gave his famous speech. And Will Russell is seen in it. He certainly was around. We don't know the extent to what he heard. But the idea that his attorney was complaining before this other judge that he believed they were essentially breaching executive privilege issues shows that they were obviously trying to ask about questions or conversations he had with Trump."

"That tells me exactly that," agreed Honig. "They're trying to get those conversations. And I should note, Donald Trump has challenged a lot of testimony on executive privilege. I think his batting average is .000. He has lost every single executive privilege argument that he has brought. I'm sure he'll lose this one."

"And also, to Kaitlan's point, sometimes the boldface names aren't the most important witnesses," added Honig. "We're very focused understandably on Mark Meadows, Rudy Giuliani, what are these folks doing. But Cassidy Hutchinson was unknown until she stood up a year ago in Congress, and it turned out she had really important testimony. We shouldn't discount someone perhaps because they are a low-ranking aide or a bystander. Sometimes they have the best testimony."

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