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Tucker Carlson concerned gays 'worth more' than he is
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Friday August 10, 2007


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Tucker Carlson criticized Neil Giuliano, president of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, on Thursday, saying, "You all are doing a pretty lousy job of explaining why gay marriage is a good idea. Your arguments are all revolving around the question of rights. ... Most people hear the word 'rights' and they turn off. That's a 1960's argument and they're sick of it."

Carlson then began criticizing the pending hate crimes bill, telling Giuliano, "If under this bill, if you're attacked for being gay, the person who attacks you is punished more severely than the person who attacks me. ... Maybe I'm attacked by someone for being straight. Why are you worth more as a citizen than I am?"

"People are singled out all the time for categories that aren't covered by this law," Carlson continued, "but they don't have effective lobby groups like you do. ... The bottom line is -- no offense or anything -- but you're not more important than I am."

"It's about the intent of the crime," Giuliano tried to explain. "If the intent of the crime is actually rooted in hate because of sexual orientation ..."

"All crime is rooted in hate," interrupted Carlson. "See, this is why, you know, you lose people when you get off into ludicrous stuff like this. If you come out and make, like, reasonable pro-family arguments in favor of gay marriage, people would be for you. ... But you get into this, like, special rights business, and people don't like it."

On Friday, Carlson appeared on Morning Joe, claiming again, this time to Bill Burton of the Obama campaign, that the hate crimes bill treats gay people as more important than straight ones.

Burton explained that the reason to single out hate crimes is that they harm society as a whole and not just the individual. "There's certain things in our society that we need to do to protect the fundamental values about who we are as a people," he stated.

"That's not what he's espousing at all," insisted Carlson. "If somebody commits a crime against me because I'm a white straight man, pffft, tough luck. ... I'm not protected."

"That's actually not true," said Burton. "You really ought to check this out, because the [language] says 'sexual identity' ... If someone attacks you because you are heterosexual, you are protected."

"Huh. That's interesting," said Carlson.

The following video is from MSNBC's Tucker and MSNBC's Morning Joe, broadcast on August 9 and 10.