A mysterious, reportedly unregistered and almost entirely unknown private security firm by the name "American Police Force" is causing a stir in a small Montana town for apparently impersonating local police.
According to a local media report, APF representatives were recently seen in the tiny town of Hardin, Montana, driving black SUV's with a peculiar logo and, inexplicably, "City of Hardin Police Department" stamped on the door.
However, Hardin does not have a police force.
The town instead contracts with the Big Horn County Sheriff's Department for patrols, according to KULR 8 in Billings, Montana.
According to the news agency, APF was never given permission to assume policing duties. Instead, the firm -- which the Associated Press reported to be unregistered in government databases -- gained its contract with the town on the promise of bringing inmates to an unpopulated prison complex.
An image on KULR's Web site shows the insignia on the APF vehicles, which has caused some concern on the Internet as being of conspiratorial origin.
APF's coat of arms, a clearer version of which appeared on the group's Web site (which had been taken down at time of this writing but is viewable here), shows a double-headed eagle with a red shield and white cross borne on its breast.
The coat appears very similar to the insignia attributed to one Prince Aleksandar Karageorgevich, based on RAW STORY's analysis of images hosted by Burke's Peerage & Gentry International Register of Arms. The site notes the coat as hailing from the Royal crown of Serbia.
However, the significance or implied nationality of the insignia's crown could not immediately be identified.
The double-headed eagle itself has been used repeatedly throughout history by many cultures as a symbol of empire, dominance and power.
Hardin, home to about 3,400 people, is in the state’s poorest county. Its unoccupied, 460-bed prison cost $27 million to construct. The town made national headlines earlier this year when local officials pleaded to have Guantanamo Bay inmates sent to the jail.
Montana Democratic Senator Max Baucus and other Republican lawmakers have stood in the way of moving Guantanamo inmates stateside, claiming they would present an increased security risk. The political calculation has led the White House to caution that its promise to close the controversial facility in January may not materialize on schedule.
An Associated Press report on American Police Force, published Sept. 12, 2009, follows.
-- Stephen C. Webster
This video is from KULR 8 in Billings, Montana, broadcast Sept. 24, 2009.
This blog was updated for clarity and modified from an original version.
This is allegedly tied to the same outfit
http://www.dpsna.com/
and you can tell by the wording that it isn't an American writing the site.
Their main website (now down) wasn't very forthcoming either.
What's more alarming to me than this shady outfit is that municipal officials would contract them without due diligence.
Hardin must really be desperate.
To state that moving inmates stateside would be a security risk is absurd. We have prisons that have maximum security and are actually far more cruel that Guantanamo which have been known to drive some inmates insane. What do they expect, Al Qaeda will mount an attack on an American Super-Max prison to free their buddies??? Give me a break...
There is no good reason to think the Hardin "cost $27 to construct." It cost the town $27 million.
The wankers with the "American Police Force" (woo, woo) must have figured that if the local officials and appointees in Hardin were dumb enough to pay probably twice what the unusable prison is actually worth, and still haven't realized they had been stung, they probably could be had again.
Unfortunately, they were right.
However the story has brought every nutcase subscribing to every nutcase website on the Internet, out of the woodwork, from the handful on the "far left" to the multitudes on the "far right."
Black helicopters, concentration camps, gun confiscations, police state.
"Precious bodily fluids!!!"
Time to relax, boys and girls. Take a deep breath. Think serene thoughts.
This is truly frightening. They wont say who is funding these people or much else about it and there is even reports of this force being made up of mainly foreign troops. Look what happened while we were asleep, the Brown-Shirts have arrived! Bet you wont see this on the TV tonight!
I wouldn't want to live in a town where there are private, nonresident police with a mandate to fill up the prison.
Hmmm...
Human suffering...
Rip-offs...
Profiteering on same...
Do I detect the presence of Dick Cheney???
Hopefully the American media will investigate this and get to the bottom of it. Thanks RAW STORY for doing your part.
My bets are this story is going to bring out the middle. When you see the left and right, freaked out about the same thing -- there is something in it for everybody.
CBS news says this company was incorporated in March...
Near an Indian Reservation in Idaho, Kootnai or Benewah County -- the idea that a law enforcement training center and prison was floated, then went silent. That was Blackwater throwing it out there. It didn't fly. Now this situation in Hardin, Montana. Makes me wonder if Blackwater and American Police Force have anything else in common?
WTF.......Unregistered, not only that but the people who are at their Pennsylvania Avenue address in DC has NEVER heard of "American Police Force". Come on, even the name sounds Effed up. Why would they feel the NEED to identify themselves as "American"??? The insignia of the two headed eagle is a SERBIAN crest. What that may mean, I can't quite grasp yet. But it's origin is eastern European.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9cr8BHBMK8&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc5zvrheaxM&feature=player_embedded#t=79
The latest reports are saying that last nights council meeting decided to shit can the Sheriffs Department and bring in these APF goons. This paramilitary outfit is practically UNIDENTIFIED in the United States, yet they are being handed full control of an American town. There is something fundamentally WRONG with this picture!!
Call and Ask Where Private Firms can Suspend Constitutional and State Rights
Governor Brian D. Schweitzer
Office of the Governor
Montana State Capitol Bldg.
P.O. Box 200801
Helena MT 59620-0801
(406) 444-3111, FAX (406) 444-5529
Lieutenant Governor John Bohlinger
Office of the Lt. Governor
Montana State Capitol Bldg.
PO Box 200801
Helena, MT 59620-1901
(406) 444-3111, FAX (406) 444-4648
Sen. Max Baucus
(202) 224-4700
Sen. John Tester
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Its not brown shirts. Its a scam pulled over desperate public officials and a willing local media.
I just looked at the Billings Gazette which is passing off APF press releases as news.
Get this: according to APF their website was down all day from the surge in job applications! The Billings repeated this.
Of course their website didn't go down because the ridiculousness of this story has caused it go viral!
Think of this like The Simpsons "Monorail" episode.
uh? the double headed eagle? Poland uses it to signify its alert from east and west invaders I believe, didnt do much good through out history, germany and russia in WWII?
maybe the pollacks are running the PD then? I'm just thinkin?
Was there ever any follow-up to last year's article regarding a 100 mile "constitution free" zone that was supposedly put into effect and covers our entire border (where a significant portion of the US populace lives)? And where is Hardin, Montana relative to the US-Canadian border?
When you have Max Baucus selling his influence to the medical industry, you can expect more corruption to follow. It's sort of like the theory of law enforcement that "Jooliani" used in NY that graffiti and broken windows encourages worse situations to follow.
"If the citizens neglect their Duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be violated or disregarded.": Noah Webster - (1758-1843)
Actually the two headed eagle is an Alabania symbol as well. It's quite a common motif.
Also, maybe this "unregistered" security firm's "policing" has something to do with this:
"...The Hardin City Council and the Two Rivers Authority have proposed that, when the Guantanamo Bay prison is closed down, some of the detainees there be transferred to Two Rivers.[8] Montana's state and federal officials have universally rejected its fitness and use for Guantanamo detainees."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardin,_Montana
This is obviously one of those private corporations along the lines of Blackwater/Ze. And why call itself "American Police Force?" That name in and of itself has ominous implications.
I'll bet this prison was planned many years in advance with the expectation that the Bush/Cheney/Rockefeller/Vatican crime families would still be in complete charge through Pres. Jeb Bush and Vice Pres. Lynn Cheney. It was probably funded by some genocidal Croatian Catholic Nazi Ustashi militia originally funded by Cardinal Montini (Poop Paul VI) that slaughtered one million Serb "heretics" in WWII. Montini helped the Nazi Dulles brothers and the Ustashi smuggle 100,000 Nazis to North America for the Vatican's Fourth Reich. The Ustashi have a similar logo. So does the Catholic terrorist militia, Tradition, Family and Property, of South America. TFP exists to enslave the masses and has a couple chapters in the U.S. It has published creepy full page ads in The Washington Times. There are many other ethnic Catholic extremist fraternities that cater to fascist millionaires and billionaires. I suspect the "Christian" owners hoped abortion, contraception, and gays would be criminalized by now and the prison would be filled with "sinners".
Gee this might not be such a good idea Mayor. These are dark times Hardin. Lock and Load kids....
http://www.nader.org/index.php?/archives/2138-Words-Matter.html
http://www.nader.org/index.php?/archives/2131-Purloining-the-Peoples-Property.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ2aJm1gxCw&feature=player_embedded
WOW that muthafucka will hold 1/3 of the population!
Every father in every household?
There outta be a bounty on that beret
Hey, "Heil Mary!"
Exactly how much do you want to bet? At what kind of odds?
Woo, woo.
The double headed eagle goes back to the split of the Roman empire into a dual empire, headquartered in Rome and Byzantium. The last Roman emperor, Constantine, moved his capital east to Byzantium and changed the name to Constantinople. The double eagle was the symbol of his empire, all that remained of the Roman empire. It became the symbol of the Eastern Orthodox Christians and was resident in all their symbology. That means the entire balkan area, as well as Czarist Russia. These people are Orthodox Christians, so a Serbian connection is a good guess!
As far as the double-headed eagle goes, it would probably be easier to just list who hasn't used this symbol. The use of this particular symbol goes all the way back to the Hittites--it may have even originated with them. (Turkey was once part of the Hittite empire.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
Probably a subsidiary of Scumwater!
Let me correct myself: Turkey was never part of the Hittite empire. What I meant is what is now known as Turkey lies in what was once the Hittite empire. Sorry.
mea culpa:
The population is 3400, my first read had it 1340.
That about 1:7
They must have some real shitty citizens
Check out the spelling on this web page (whose link has disappeared from the "APF" website) - "attentative" ? Check it out on their website, chock full of boilerplate language and stock photos: http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/competitors.html
The logo, the misspellings, the guy who answered a few questions (hell, maybe he's the whole force!) and the Mercedes police vehicle (why not an Impala or Crown Vic?) are all tells that indicate an East European origin.
Ditto the sentiments of Pancho and throco: Hardin officials have been had by this scam. Lack of due diligence is the same as incompetence - and again, the taxpayers get stuck with the bill... Let's hope Gov. Schweitzer looks into this...
Red Alert! Foreign mercenaries operating on American soil posing as law enforcement. This is a martial law takeover! I repeat- This is a martial law takeover!
Alex Jones was right this whole time.
chriskillz503.blogspot.com
Life imitating art. Sounds kind of like Jericho without the bombs.
the eagle is Serbian probably a bunch of war criminals
WTF?!
[...] APF logo is the Serbian Coat of Arms... and their attorney spokesman is Iranian. Very strange. The Raw Story
I'm quite sure that this is a scam, through and through. Top to bottom. This international company does not exist except as a con. At least it's not the long con, a la Bush and Co., and it will only be a short time before this all falls apart, completely and thoroughly. Listen up, Hardin! You are dealing with a phantom. There is nobody there. The front is the business, they only have one customer: you. Maybe they have other cons going at the same time, but Hardin is the mark for this one. Grab ahold of anyone from this company and hold on, because they will vanish without a trace if you don't, and you will find yourselves with an empty city treasury.
Really, this is so very wrong:
"The company is pledging to fill the 464-bed facility by early next year."
"Hardin officials say the first payment on the contract is due Feb. 1 — regardless of whether any prisoners are in place. The city's economic development authority would get enough money to pay off the bondholders and receive $5 per prisoner a day."
"American Police Force also is promising to invest $30 million in new projects for the city, including a military and law enforcement training center with a 250-bed dormitory and an expansion of the jail to 2,000 beds. The company says it will build a homeless shelter, offer free health care for city residents and even deliver meals to the needy."
"Federal prisoners also were mentioned by both American Police Force and the city. U.S. Marshal Dwight MacKay in Billings said he would have been notified if such a plan was pending. 'There's skepticism over whether this is a real thing,' MacKay said."
"Hardin officials said they were approached by American Police Force about six months ago, soon after the city made international news in its quest to become 'America's Gitmo.' American Police Force incorporated around the same time."
>>>Guy getting conned>>>Albert Peterson, the city's school superintendent and vice president of the authority that built the jail, said the city was "guaranteed" the contract would be upheld.
"There's never a question in my mind after I've done my homework. It's legit," Peterson said of American Police Force. "We believe in each other."
Trick or Treat...........
Google Serbian military. You will see that the coat of arms on their website is that of the Serbian military.
This group might be Polish -- one photo featured cops wearing helmets with "Policja" on them. They also provide checking for adultery! From their website:
Methods We Use for Cheating Spouses
Surveillance
Polygraph Examination Lie Detection
Semen Testing
Bodily Fluid Testing
DNA for Hair and Skin
Covert Pregnancy Testing
Surface Drug Testing
Photos of Unknown Subjects
Communications Activity
Computer Usage
Internet Usage
Email Tracing
Identity Verification
Covert and Undercover Assignments
Reports: Mysterious, unregistered security firm policing Montana town...
Raw Story | A mysterious, reportedly unregistered and almost entirely unknown private security firm by the name "American Police Force" is causing a stir in a small Montana town for apparently impersonating local police.
According to a local m...
[...] Mysterious, unregistered security firm policing Montana town According to a local media report, APF representatives were recently seen in the tiny town of Hardin, Montana, driving black SUV’s with a peculiar logo and, inexplicably, “City of Hardin Police Department” stamped on the door. (rawstory) [...]
Either Hardin has sold it's soul to the devil or we are getting a seek peek at the new American Police state - foreign nationals with guns that will have no problem abusing/arresting/shooting citizens.
Let's face it, this group comes from some corrupt politician and his buddies (same as Blackwater) to reap some of the billions of dollars offered by the Pentagon.
Or maybe this is the beginning of Cheney's private army, part of a future American coup ???
Maybe they are going to be like blackwater and just start locking up prisoners of their own...why should govt have all the fun
All American Police Force News Casts 9/14 - 9/28 Hardin, MT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y5qL3Vi9H0
The mystery deepens. Instinct tells me that this is a serious crime against the constitution. TREASON comes to mind. These people, APF, can change their name at will and appear out of nowhere somewhere else in America and then disappear again after God knows what they are capable of. APF needs to be watched very carefully as to where they go and what they do. The question MUST be answered! WHO ARE THEY?? WHERE ARE THEY FROM?? WHAT ARE THEY REALLY DOING IN HARDIN, MT??
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Mysterious, unregistered security firm policing Montana town...
A mysterious, reportedly unregistered and almost entirely unknown private security firm by the name "American Police Force" is causing a stir in a small Montana town for apparently impersonating local police....
[...] Police Force Logo Represents “Empire, Dominance and Powe Stephen C. Webster Raw Story Wednesday, Sept 30th, [...]
My guess, this is some racist, "white power" operation.
The coat is that of Serbian Military. Yes, the two headed eagle is a symbol of many a eastern European country, but the shield that it holds has a cross and four "C" letters. The "C"s are in Cyrillic alphabet (or "S" in latin alphabet) and stand for "Samo Sloga Srbina Spasava," Meaning, "Only unity will save the Serbs."
This coat of arms was also extensively used by the notorious Serbian paramilitary troops in Bosnia, which were responsible for genocide and countless other war crimes.
After the war, many Serbian soldiers ( read "butchers") found themselves without work and have joined various "security firms" around the world.
I personally would be very worried seeing that coat of arms on a man carrying guns.
Probably related to these guys:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,556589,00.html
The 'double headed eagle with a crown above it' is featured in the film 'Eyes Wide Shut'. When the Tom Cruise character is found out at the dark orgy, the high priest dressed in red is sitting on a big chair with this emblem carved into it. I only mention this because it is also a big 'illuminati' symbol.
Serbian without a doubt.....
http://s2-us2.startpage.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&cat=pics&c=pf&q=Samo+Sloga+Srbina+Spasava&h=360&w=288&th=110&tw=88&fn=Grb72b.jpg&fs=20%20k&el=bing_pics&tu=http:%2F%2Fimages1-us2.ixquick.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsf%3Ff%3Db6a21d9e21a5fb2e3a6d124f8c9646d8.jpg%26anticache%3D392203&rl=NONE&u=http:%2F%2Fserb-art.com%2Fserbart.html&rid=LJLMPONMQKSR&oiu=http:%2F%2Fserb-art.com%2Fimages%2FGrb72b.jpg
first, the people of Hardin might want to arrest all of the pretenders and call them for what they are, perpetrators of a crime.
It is your right to arrest anyone violating your federal and state laws about pretending to be what they are not. Since they have police department on their vehicles and there is no police department, I would suggest the crime has already been committed, and there is just cause for physical arrest.
Just make sure there are a few of you watching so that you can take appropriate steps in dealing with someone that is known to be an armed criminal.
This feels like some weird, ham-fisted attempt at a 'false flag' operation, but more likely against the Federal Government than by it. If it is, it's a pretty poorly executed one, that will only get the already crazy, black helicopter types riled up but (hopefully) that's it. I mean, what with all the nuttiness going on right now and people already talking about Obama wanting to institute a "National Police Force" and turning college kids into his "Brown Shirts," something called the "American Police Force" just smacks of someone trying to make it look like the "take-over" is already in effect.
So they get little towns here and there in the mid-West to take them on as some sort of security force, and then BOOM, news story on Fox about how this organization has been creeping in to take over our small towns. Then all they have to do is say, "questions need to be asked about what ties this has to Obama" and it will just rile people up more...but it's, as I said, been done in a really ham-fisted way.
Anyway, that's my (admittedly somewhat conspiratorial) theory on this.
Well, I guess we're going to find out whether all these militia groups are just playing soldier or are actually patriots. How exactly are you supposed to respond when an unregistered, possibly foreign, armed police force tries to pull you over in your own town? OK all you militiamen, have you been bullshitting us all these years, or what? This is what you have been talking about. What are you going to do?
I called the Governors office they said it is a contract between the City of Hardin and the"American Police Force".
City of Hardin gave me the Representatives number for APF as Becky Shay
406-665-7356...
Stand-Up...our rights are being ursurped right under our noses...like a theif in the night...Burn up the phonelines and find out WTF is going on...."Foriegn Troops" on American SOIL!!!
Serbian in origin it is the Serbian Emblem used in Serbia and the Republica Serpska in Bosnia , This has got to be a joke I hope.
It's run by a Nigerian Prince.... who must remain secret.
[...] Stephen C. Webster RawStory.com [...]
http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/competitors.html
The graphics are extremely novice (note crappy edge on the red shadow under the eagle) The code behind it all is some of the crappiest slip-shod sh*t I've ever seen.
Oh we are in for some very dark times.
"Canned food, handguns, ammo, seeds and silver!!!"
If anyone wishes to know the near future history of the US, just look at Russia exactly one hundred years ago. Those developments then so mirror the ones here in the US now, that it is utterly numbing!
Reminds me of the Patrick Swayze movie, "Red Dawn." Get the trojan horse in under the guise of "security" and wait for the word. Get established where it would be easy to get a good foothold (BFE Montana) and let the war begin!
The website is hosted by GoDaddy. I doubt that their servers can't handle the load.
@51 Atilla: YES! Especially up in Montana I would expect nearby good-hearted American gun-owning, Constitution-defending male souls would be more than ready to do the intense, swift, public and transparent investigation of this group and everyone connected to it.
No dead ends like, "the funder of our new police force/arms dealer wants to remain anonymous" should be accepted.
With the power of arrest in the city, outside the gates of the prison, comes the requirement that your identity is available to the people in the city; with a few temporary undercover operations excepted. The local and state Bureau of Prisons should have complete background information about everyone who works inside the prison.
If a foreign-based company or entity is bringing prisoners to fill the prison and is providing a tiny police force for the town outside the walls, and all those other things "guaranteed" for free for Hardin, including $5 per prisoner, in exchange for somebody paying "American Police Force" more than all of that costs to fill and maintain a prison full of 2,000 prisoners, then that should be known by Hardin, at least, Montana and the U.S. at best.
It's operations and growth and personnel should be videotaped well, even a documentary! How about a danger-tinged reality show about the growth of a real, privately-owned "city police force" in a place with an empty Gitmo which they can't fill.
It could win awards if it turns into an investigative documentary exposing such a big fish as either an outright con, an enormously naive deal with some unsavory characters, or aliens taking over Hardin, Montana.
Three of the guys who the cops are saying pulled the "Hollywood style" robbery by helicopter while being filmed (great video) have been caught. If it's them or if they were hoping to fund their Hardin operations through that robbery somehow, the first deadline will soon arrive with nothing happening and the collapse of the illusion.
How many cars and cops driving around Hardin? How big is the American Police Force? Can we get some photos/videos of APF? Anybody in or near Hardin with a camera phone?
Somebody save their entire website, please, if you can.
What's odd is that the same Becky Shay listed as Public Relations Director here: http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/contact_american_police_force.html is also apparently a writer for the Billings Gazette, who writes stories about, you guessed it, the American Police Group: http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_c89fc813-f7ba-5a94-b316-d452179189f9.html?mode=story
Looks like Becky Shay just announced yesterday that she quit the Billings Gazette job for APG: http://www.kulr8.com/news/local/62755172.html
"Public records show that the APF Web site, Americanpolicegroup.com, was first registered on May 15, about two weeks after an effort by the Montana Two Rivers Authority to pursue prisoners from Guantanamo Bay made national headlines.
A section of text on the APF site refers to the company's "U.S. Training Center," and matches word for word text from the Web site for Xe, formerly Blackwater. That company's U.S. Training Center is touted as the largest facility of its kind.
Public Internet records show that the APF Web site is one of six hosted on a single Web server, including a site for Defense Product Solutions."
Richard Culver, Senior Director of Security Services, International SOS, speaks about potential medical and security issues and the 2008 Beijing Summer Games. Reproduced with the kind permission of FrontLine Security, Issue Winter 2007/2008.
http://www.internationalsos.com/2008summergames/
Is International SOS the parent company? Are they the same company as SOSi
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No doubt that crest matches that shown on the Serbian Flag.
I think they are using the coat of arms Karageorgevich illegally. That is Why they removed it from the website.
http://www.armorial-register.com/arms-serb/karageorgevich-m-hrh.html
[...] Read entire article [...]
Wikipedia says this coat of arms was ruled unconstitutional by the Constitutional Court of Bosnia and Herzegovina in 2007. They replaced it with something completely different. Serbia is militarily neutral now. That means this coat of arms does not currently signify the armed forces of Serbia. Whoever is still using it does so for their own purposes ( maybe a rogue branch of it's military, or even a single person?). Check out Lusich, post #45.
I'd like to know how big this organization is and of course who's behind their presence here.
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/rothschild.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LEljS3ib84
OH MY GOD THE SERBS HAVE TAKEN OVER AN AMEIRCAN TOWN!!!
IS THIS IN REVENGE FOR NATO BACKING THE KLA!!!!
ALL US GUN NUTS BETTER GIT OWT THAR AND TAKE CARE'A THEM SERBIANS IN HARDIN ID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
**Feeling a little foolish now. It's starting to look like a frigging scam. What gives with Montana authorities? Doesn't anybody do any real checking?
I wonder if anyone will do one of the great jobs of a background checking on this organization? You know. Like the state department did on BlackWater.
If they do the same kind of job as most civilian contractors do, we can look forward to interesting stories of doors being kicked in one day. Or of their men patrolling the streets just to help out. Or perhaps giving new meaning to citizens arrest. Look for the foothold. What could go wrong with armed civilians/para military men roaming this town?
Correction to post #68
While Bosnia and Herzegovina no longer use these arms (the same ones used by Serbia, and APF), Serbia still does, according to:
http://flagspot.net/flags/rs_law.html#law
So evidently the arms APF is using are current Serbian arms. Sorry for the confusion.
From the Google Cache of dbsna.com (click on link)
Scam city
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6667901
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
Looks like the double headed eagle arms were used by lots of different groups and cultures, including the Holy Roman Empire and Charles the 1st of Spain. Only two of them, though, closely match the APF arms: third row down, third and fourth in the row. The arms on left are the greater arms of Serbia (remove the large crown with curtains and they are an exact match for the APF arms, except the APF arms have the cross removed from the top of the crown). These arms belong to the Serbian royal family and can only be used in certain circumstances. The fourth picture in the row at first looks like an exact match, until you study the details. All the details match those of the Arms of the Serbian royal family. Maybe APF intended these arms to resemble the lesser Serbian arms which can be used in more contexts than the greater ones. Because the APF (composite) coat of arms is so very specific, I hope people don't jump to conclusions about the connection of these arms with other groups before they've done some research.
I also hope people stay aware of the fact that the link between these arms and the people using them has not been established yet. We don't know whether this is a small group of entrepreneurs using, or misusing, Serbian Arms for whatever reason, or scammers, or something more sinister. I hope some of you out there will use your brains instead of your guns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
I just noticed that this link shows the police wearing helmets with the Polish word for police:
http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/police.html
but most of the site does appear to be generic stuff (except for the odd misspellings and typos).
The application form seems to be generic that no police department would ever use.
This is basically corporate military.
Get used to the idea. And what's really funny is these moronic Libertarians who think that giving corporations more and more power to do pretty much whatever they want, with no accountability to anyone but shareholders, is a good idea.
This is FOR-PROFIT military. This is your "free market" at work.
Those who make the most money, can hire the biggest militias. Did you REALLY not see this coming, you morons?
It started with groups like Pinkerton, and evolved into groups like Halliburton, and now they're showing up ON OUR OWN SOIL to be used AGAINST US.
And you morons who supported it while it was being used elsewhere DIDN'T SEE IT COMING BACK?
You people are morons, and you brought this on yourselves.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ifOx0LPKy5B_0KAyPHyNTEqdQz6QD9B206QG3
An article from the Associated Press. The guy running APF is a con man. This sounds like more fraud.
Single-Payer GRAYSON Single-Payer
...It would have been just too damn expensive to remove all that asbestos from the Twin Towers...
As the 9/12 Tea Party looks into the events of 9/11 they have many questions concerning the Official Story.
They know not to trust the Government & Media.
Only the guilty fear inquiry.
An ill wind comes arising
Across the cities of the plain
There's no swimming in the heavy water
No singing in the acid rain
Red alert
Red alert
OKay this is bad, unless they are sworn Peace Officers they are just armed thugs, mercenaries hired to keep the "peace." I hope the county sheriff's dept in that area prevents these mercs from actually doing any "policing" in that town. Mayor and anyone on the council should be recalled or voted out at the earliest opportunity.
To "Duh":
Do your homework, sir. It has not been consistent Libertarians who empowered & advanced the idea of 'private military' contractors.....like 'Blackwater'...or this faux / real ? outfit that has apparently bamboozled Hardin, MT into this deal.
It was 'might makes right' Neo-Conservatives, and their unthinking supporters, most GOPers, a good many Democrats and sad to say, many of my fellow Christians, too.
The real enemy of real Liberty is the 'State' acting as God on earth. We have ceased to be a Nation under God (as the Founding Fathers defined it....), but are now acting as an unassailable Empire, daring to run the world as if it's our job.
This, of course, requires not just a huge military, but even private firms - "mercenaries" - to be recruited to do the unsavory job of looting whatever nation is in the economic interests of the fascist / corporatist elites.
Through the complicity of BOTH PARTIES (if you think they're actually opponents, the joke is on you....) is required to pull this off....it makes great theater for the TV dumbed down masses - like your comments suggest you may be.
Genuine Libertarians are freqently also known as Christian Constutionalists, and because they know that power corrupts, absolutely when not held in check, they are suspicious of ANY government power or entity that may be abused. Including military authority. Including police authority.
Including corporate interests that are in bed with big government (this is 'Fascisim' - more sophisticated than communism & socialisim).
(America hasn't had a 'free market' in any area of our economic life since about 1950.....but that's besides the point...)
It's the Libertarians, the ones who harken back to our Founding Fathers vision, (paleo-Libertarians) what have been warning for years of the coming american police state....including mercentary armies.....like the one this story highlights.
For a couple of great sites that keep an eye out on these matters:
http://www.LewRockWell.com/blog
http://www.FreedomInourTime.blogspot.com
I took the time to write this so you, or others, would be better informed & thus more likely to take wise action.
The time for anything else is long since past........
'Samuel Adams', A Christian Patriot
[...] C. Webster Raw Story Wednesday, Sept 30th, [...]
http://www.crushingchris.com/blog/?tag=american-police-force
http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_023e1c90-ae1b-11de-8891-001cc4c03286.html
well, if out-sourcing our military to Haliburton, Blackwater, etc is fine, is it any surprise that OTHER government responsibilities end up being done by para-military mercenaries?
Baa! BAAAA! Little sheeple, have you any meat to pay the wolves?
MESSAGE ENDS.
[...] [...]
"American Police Force" is a BlackWater front company:
http://www.infowars.com/exposed-american-police-force-is-a-blackwater-front-group/
[...] coat of arms appears to be the same as Serbia’s Prince Aleksandar Karageorgevich, Raw Story points out. And the AP reported that a lawyer for APF describes the firm as “a fledgling spin-off of a [...]
The scam fell apart yesterday. "APF" is one convicted con man who was scamming the town. That's it. No one else. No mystery. Just stupid officials willing to believe anything they read, in lieu of doing any homework, like too many people on this website.
Settle down folks... it's just a con. Google for the news.
For example:
One attorney who dealt with Hilton in a fraud lawsuit referred to him as a "chameleon" and he has a reputation for winning people over with his charm.
His criminal record goes back to at least 1988, when Hilton was arrested in Santa Ana, Calif. for writing bad checks.
Beginning in 1993, Hilton spent six years in prison in California on a dozen counts of grand theft and other charges including illegal diversion of construction funds.
Calif. jail entrepreneur has checkered past
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20091001/D9B26F5O0.html
Oct 1, 4:26 AM (ET)
By MATTHEW BROWN
BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) -
[...] coat of arms appears to be the same as Serbia’s Prince Aleksandar Karageorgevich, Raw Story points out. And the AP reported that a lawyer for APF describes the firm as “a fledgling spin-off of a [...]
[...] Luckily, everything on the company is on the up-and-up! An attorney for American Police Force, Maziar Mafi, describes the Santa Ana, Calif., company as a fledgling spin-off of a major security firm founded in 1984. But Mafi declined to name the parent firm or provide details on how the company will finance its jail operations. [...]
Isnt Bin Laden supposed to be in pakistan where we are killing their people and Hardin is going to let Bin Ladens pakistan people train soldiers in their town for money.. Sounds like they sold their soul to the devil
Honesty compassion intelligence guts?
We have an ongoing American Holocaust.
Do you still want to believe what you were told about 9/11?
The guilty are busy importing private mercenaries to hide behind.
Red Dawn already happening.
[...] personas que la han ideado están conectadas genealógicamente con el pueblo fenicio. Otra ciudad, llamada Hardin, en Montana, ha sido tomada por la American Police Force Company, un grupo paramilitar liderado por un [...]
[...] claro que la personas que la han ideado están conectadas genealógicamente con el pueblo fenicio. Otra ciudad, llamada Hardin, en Montana, ha sido tomada por la American Police Force Company, un grupo paramilitar liderado por un [...]
emblem (coat medieval Serbian Empire) is definitely the Republic of Serbia, the country which is opposed war in Iraq, but this man a partner, criminal and very important - U.S. citizen, this is US policy
A friend outed the existance of the APF and dealing in info I checked...
>The website stated the parent company was Black Water...
I see that additional info has been seen as helping in this dangerous matter.
I strongly suggest the APF be requested to leave or show their paperwork of authorization. You know, police powers, right to carry, etc.
The citizens can officially require them to leave on legal grounds as well.
It is illegal for a town council to take such actions without a referendum vote and full disclosure, etc. Said officials may be removed from office and charged with several felonies, state and federal.
Might see who has a greencard while you're checkin things...hmmm? Passport?
Foreign mercenary forces are not allowed in the US let alone in any opperational form.
No one but the people of this country has the power to authorize foreign military of any kind on our soil...
So, this then becomes an invasion, just that simple.
As such, any citizen over 18 yrs of age can form together a legal militia and start hunting the invaders... according to the constitution.
Citizens there need to take immediate action for sure.
Wanna play chess with handgrenades?
That empty prizon should hold them APF guys real nicely, hmmm?
>Yeah, a little rank... So is Blackwater...
I seem to remeber a campin trip the military sent me on to a wonderful place called Vietnam...
Citizens have a legal right and responsibility to defend against foreign invaders no matter how they got there or who invited them. Any Veterans up that way?
- The state police have the legal resonsibility to remove these people.
- Then there is the sheriff's resonsibility to organize these efforts.
Welcome to the Industrial/military Complex and The New World Order.
It's amazing how many people posting here still can't extricate themselves from the horseshit.
Serbian crests! Woo, woo!
If they had used Girl Scout cookie crests, would that mean their head man was the Cookie Monster?
It's all bullshit. A single con man looking for (and almost getting) a score. What's so hard to figure out?
Relax folks. As ominous as all this seems, it's really just another scam from the fevered imagination of a Montenegrin con artist and convicted felon, Michael Hilton. He has masterminded bad check, real estate and collectibles swindles. He should know all about jail operations since he spent six years in one.
The common two headed eagle Balkan royalty crest instead of an aggressive police badge is the give away that this outfit is more a narcissistic wet dream than the arrival of The Beast.
[...] coat of arms appears to be the same as Serbia’s Prince Aleksandar Karageorgevich, Raw Story points out. And the AP reported that a lawyer for APF describes the firm as “a fledgling spin-off of a [...]
Normagene:
International SOS and SOS International (SOSi) are NOT the same company.
"Mysterious Private Security Firm Gets Control Of Empty Jail In Small Montana Town | A Forum for Concerned Tax Payers [...] coat of arms appears to be the same as Serbia’s Prince Aleksandar Karageorgevich, Raw Story points out. And the AP reported that a lawyer for APF describes the firm as 'a fledgling spin-off of'..."
"Hilton" had conned the lawyer (Mafi) who co-signed the loan for Mercedes SUVs that "Hilton" used to establish his credibility.
He severed the relationship with "Hilton" on the 30th.
It's not part of any "fledgling firm." It's complete horsecrap.
Hilton previously introduced the lawyer to the marks from Hardin as "Major" Mafi. He gave out commissions like Mardi Gras beads.
Just because you read it, doesn't mean it's true.