Michael Schwartz, chief of staff to Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), has an interesting theory: If you tell little boys that looking at pornography will make them gay, maybe they won't want a copy of Playboy.
Schwartz attempted to explain this claim during a pep talk on "the new masculinity" at the Values Voter Conference last week, reported ThinkProgress. During his presentation, Schwartz asserted that all the pre-adolescent boys he has been associated with "speak badly" about homosexuality, which he implied to be somehow positive.
He added that a friend of his once claimed that all pornography is homosexual, because it turns one's sexual urges "inwards."
Here's an excerpt from The Washington Independent:
“Pornography is a blight... It is a disaster. It is one of those silent diseases in our society that we haven’t been able to overcome very well. Now, I may be getting politically incorrect here. And it’s been a few years, but not that many, since I was closely associated with pre-adolescent boys, boys around 10 years of age. But it is my observation that boys of that age have less tolerance for homosexuality than just about any other class of people. They speak badly about homosexuality. And that’s because they don’t want to be that way. They don’t want to fall into it.”
Schwartz told the crowd about Jim Johnson, a friend of his who turned an old hotel into a hospice for gay men dying of AIDS. “One of the things he said to me,” said Schwartz, “that I think is an astonishingly insightful remark… he said ‘All pornography is homosexual pornography, because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards.”
There were murmurs and gasps from the crowd. “Now, think about that,” said Schwartz. “And if you tell an 11-year-old boy about that, do you think he’s going to want to get a copy of Playboy? I’m pretty sure he’ll lose interest. That’s the last thing he wants! You know, that’s a good comment, it’s a good point, and it’s a good thing to teach young people.”
ThinkProgress added:
Schwartz is no stranger to extreme rhetoric about the gay community. In 2005, he denounced the Supreme Court for giving Americans “the right to commit buggery.” Later, he told Max Blumenthal, “”I’m a radical! I’m a real extremist. I don’t want to impeach judges. I want to impale them!” In 1987, Schwartz co-wrote Gays, AIDS, and You, which according to Blumenthal, alleged that the gay community was “using the AIDS crisis to pursue [their] political agenda.”
Watch Schwartz attempt his spiel, below (h/t TalkingPointsMemo):
-- Stephen C. Webster
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa! I guess I'm going to be gay then. HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
" it’s been a few years, but not that many, since I was closely associated with pre-adolescent boys, boys around 10 years of age."
This explains just about everything I need to know about this man.
I think Schwartz is gay. This sounds like a man who hates to see naked women to me.
The story here is that this perv is out talking sex with little boys.
Talk about a classic case of projection. This clown was evidently born in the closet and there he intends to remain.
For anyone to actually say that one can "fall into" homosexuality speaks volumes about the inherent stupidity of this ass clown.
What a meeting of the minds in Oklahoma. As if porn is going to turn a boy one way or another. He already is or isn't gay and it is as innate as heterosexuality. You don't choose homosexuality any more than you choose heterosexuality. From the people I've known, they've all told me that they just knew at an early age that they were different and that's all there is to it. Homosexuality occurs throughout nature. I can't help but suspect that people like this guy are scared to death of his own inner urges. Live and let live folks. What's it cost you to do just that? Nothing. Oh, and mister, your football team sucks and is over-rated as usual.
Someones been looking at the wrong kind of porn.
And HOW would he know this?
I think we need to check his basement for "boy scouts"
The U.S. porn industry is more than $12 billion dollars a year. That's a LOT of people being turned gay...
[...] Porn Makes You Gay? Mike Schwartz, chief of staff to Senator Tom Coburn, recently made a speech in which he claimed that exposure to porn causes little boys to turn gay. Therefore, dads should do a better job hiding their playboys. I wonder if all the guys who saw porn early are aware of this? The Raw Story GOP Senator’s aide: Tell little boys that porn will make them gay [...]
First it was soy, and now it's porn that makes people gay?
And no wonder there are probably those on the Extreme Right who secretly want to flood lower-income communities with "elegant pornoo" just to pacify them long enough into submission!
but what if a man watches porn with a female, and then they express their urges heterosexually with eachother? is that then a straight porn?
Quick!
Someone tell Hugh Hefner all those countless millions of men who've bought Playboy magazine decade after decade are really homosexuals.
What a moron.
I can't wait 'til next month when some sex scandal breaks on this "family values" Republican Senator about his adulterous affair with a hooker or page boy.
Hetero porn... will make you gay!!!
Being fucked in the ass as a child by a GOP pervert... will make you straight!!!
Believing in science... will make you a satan worshipper
Believing in a sky-fairy... will make you well balanced and a being of high moral values!!!
Love is hate, War is peace, Fox News is News, Up is down and Obama was born in Kenya.
Yet THEY call US moonbats?!
Why are you even reporting this bullshit?!? They're from Oklahoma, for Christ's sake! They're genetically primed for that!!
Shielding kids from visual exposure to sex is linked to their later sexual aggression. Porn is not.
Celibacy is linked to health problems.
And if you smoke 'marihuana (devil's weed with roots in HELL!) you'll grow man-boobs the size of oranges.
This is a claim i remember seeing when I was a kid (80s).
Thanks for lying to me, uncle sam; now I know better than to listen to you.
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How long til this guy is busted for picking up male prostitutes in a public bathroom? What's the over/under?
I guess Senator Craig now knows what caused his condition.
OOOPS!!! how many of us have given our sons Playboy???
Damn,we are a nation of gays and didn't know it!
But just keep Schwartz away from young boys!
When I told my 10 yr old "did you here a republican said looking at pictures of naked girls will make you gay?" He said "THAT doesn't make any sense!" LOL and then said, "Wouldn't looking at naked pictures of boys mean you ARE gay?" Guess he could help the GOP make sense, they should call him for consulting...
“And if you tell an 11-year-old boy about that, do you think he’s going to want to get a copy of Playboy?
EARTH TO KNUCKLE-DRAGGING MOUTH-BREATHER: Playboy is not porn.
Nudity ≠ porn.
I've had a subscription to Playboy for about 5 years now. There's nothing pornographic about seeing a few tasteful pictures of a naked woman.
And 10 years olds don't know anything about sexuality, either. They're only 10 years old, their balls haven't even dropped yet!
And WHAT THE FUCK is this guy talking to 10 year olds about sex for anyway?
if this guy were Joe Q Public he'd be under arrest for corruption of minors, contributing to the delinquency of minors, something.
And then tell "the men" that oppressing their "closet" gayness makes them marry women and treating them like shit and ruining their lives. And, catholic "penguins" that can't marry ,being put in charge of schools and then taking their aggression out by beating the shit out of the boys and then the men priests diddle the boys.
At least the Amish buy the taverns that their sons go to and then burn them to the ground.
Also, the porn that is bought and rented always go to the rich neighborhoods, but when a porn store goes to the city council, it always ends up in poor parts of town, but the people who use the store, live in the rich parts. All information is located by zip codes.
America need porn, what else does it have? Nothing.
Think about it-- "turning your sexual urges inward" essentially means that you have a sexual involvement with yourself. Well, duh. Not only do I have a sexual involvement with myself, I also have many other types of involvements with myself. Sometimes I even talk to myself in my own head.
Pornography makes you gay because it 'turns you inward'.
And everybody knows INWARD is where THE GAY lurks.
Correction: The GOP will make you gay.
Yes, lurking in the darkness within. Like Satan.
Every day, gay republicans bury themselves deeper into the closet.
He seems strangely obsessed with 10-12 year old boys. And how he thinks porn will turn them gay.
It's as if girls and women simply do not exist in his world, nevermind gay women.
As JEFraley noted above, I think these facts tell us everything we need to know about Schwartz...including some details I'm sure most of us would rather not know.
Without a doubt, I'd never let him anywhere near my kids.
These people never fail to amaze me. They are the veritable poster children for mental ill-health. I want to know a few things about this guy: (1) How does he (or his friend) know that "pornography turns your sexual urges inward"? (2) What's he doing reading Playboy? Is he gay? (3) Why is he spending time talking to pre-adolescent boys about homosexuality? (4) Does he think Playboy is porn? It hasn't been considered porn since I was a child (back when dinosaurs roamed the earth). (5) When does he plan on coming out of the closet?
I looked at my share of porn as a teenager (not when I was 10).
Now I feel like I've wasted many years being straight, when I should have been gay. If only I had known...
Michael Schwartz, you are totally clueless. People like you have no business attempting to address an intelligent public. I agree with some of the other postings: why in the hell are you talking porn to 10 year old boys. That is perverse and you should be prosecuted for improper sexual advances on young boys. You, my good sir, are the pervert. You are the one with the extremely confused moral and ethical values. You should be removed from public service.
Will watching midget porn make me tall?
A. Nuran
If you lie about it, your nose will grow.
GOP Senator's aide: Tell little boys that porn will make them gay.
TRANSLATION: GOP Senator is a pederast and wants to
cover it up in advance. Pathetic!
OK, so here we have yet another homophobe that can't assimilate that which he clearly does not understand. It's always been quite fascinating to see how those that bleat the loudest (Foley, Craig, etc.) have their own dark secrets. Maybe someone should start some sort of contest to guess when Herr Schwartz appears in a different type of headline.
Schwartz and his ilk are still in the closet because me and the other participants on the Homo-membership committee refuse to give them them membership cards and welcome kits. We apparently have higher membership standards than the Republicans!
This man helps explain why the Republican/ReligiousRight movement is so creepily scary: they're totally removed from reality and they make absolutely no sense. Their jumbled "reasoning" and bastardized "thought processes" only spew psychotic paranoia and conspiracies.
The only ones scarier than these clowns who "lead" the Republican/ReligiousRight are those who listen in slack-jawed reverence while nodding and drooling in affirmation. These are the nuts who shoot and kill..."in Jesus' name".
Pathetic...really!
ROTFL
Conservatives....always something entertaining....
Telling little boys this kind of tale is not new....
Back in the day, the story to tell little boys was if you masturbate you will grow hair on the backs of your hands and EVERYONE would see it and KNOW......
That's it ! SCARE the gay right out of them
It seems @ some point in these sheepy brains, there HAS to be a random thought that is....
"WAIT! WHAT? That is DUMB!!!! ......but then they go...
"OH......well....that makes sense!"
This guy beats Rick "man on dog" Santorum.
we are all gay today.
And all this time i wondered what made me gay. It was the porn! D'oh!!
"And that’s because they don’t want to be that way. They don’t want to fall into it."
And using science and fact to assuage their fears, that's not an option? Why not explain to them that it isn't a "disease", it's not a "choice", it's just the way some people are. If they are not that way now, they don't have to worry about being that way.. and if they are that way now, and just hiding it, it's ok.. they don't have to hide it.. it's natural and not a big deal.
Oh, right. Twisting humans into something other than what's in their nature is the cornerstone of "compassionate conservatism". Fact and reason and science aren't important, because the rantings of deluded people should take precedent, right?
religious fucktards and right-wingers disgust sane healthy people.
"All pornography is homosexual pornography, because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards.”
Perfect example of having no clue what the definition of some words are, not being able to critically think, and having no regard for facts. These people are not only deluded, many just might be psychotic.
"“Now, think about that,” said Schwartz. “And if you tell an 11-year-old boy about that, do you think he’s going to want to get a copy of Playboy? I’m pretty sure he’ll lose interest. That’s the last thing he wants! You know, that’s a good comment, it’s a good point, and it’s a good thing to teach young people.”"
Because lying to children to cause long term disorders, that's good parenting! right? MORON?
How do we get these people to evolve in a short amount of time so we can move forward as a species instead of being shit flinging monkeys in suits?
“Pornography is a blight... It is a disaster. It is one of those silent diseases in our society that we haven’t been able to overcome very well
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This is hilarious, one could say the same thing about the RepubliCON party as well with all the debauchery they endorse.
I wonder if animals look at pornography? I've seen stories that some animals have been known to exhibit homosexual behavior.
Further, I've had male dogs come and try to "hump" my leg. They're not only exhibiting homosexual behavior; they are exhibiting signs of bestiality!
And guess where you'll find a guy like Mike Schwartz?? I figure that he'll be at a porn shop ( watching gay porn ) with his "schwartz" in his hand. praying for a "Second Cumming".....
Because: Boy Howdy, if there's one group that knows a little something about porn-watchers turning gay, it's Republicans!
Gay.... Huh, what do you know. And all this time, I thought it made you Republican...
Seriously though, "edward" has it right. And seriously, that guy should be investigated ASAP!
They just love to talk about sex. SEX, SEX, SEX. SEX... SEX... SEX...
To make that a churchy thing.. you just intersperse sufficient "don'ts" in there.
You wouldn't believe how many off-the-wall, sex/orgy/prostitution/drugs "confessionals" go on... sure as negative examples but ESSENTIALLY they are wild sex stories. "I was a teen-age crack whore," sorts of things. Sex sells, especially at church.
If you think this guy is dangerous, a douche bag, or both, please take time to write to him: michael_schwartz@coburn.senate.gov
I think Christmas causes homosexuality.
Watch all of the Republicans this season as they "don their gay apparel "
Tra-la-la......Tra-la-la....La-la-lah.
When they were trying to impeach Clinton, the Republicans were going out of their minds, finally being able to talk about sex in public. They're so sexually repressed that this was a gigantic release for them. They all giggled when they said "blowjob"
and they were happy as pigs in slop. Now all they have to laugh at is Sanford or any of the other Repubs having affairs. Boring. They don't find that amusing. All that's left is little boys to talk about sex with. Now that's something they can get behind.
Let me state for the record, that this is as wacko as the righties will ever get. No, this is definately the absolute limit of their crazy. There won't be anything weirder than this in the future. Now you've seen the full wingnut wack an there ain't nothing further. Thats all they got. Don't expect anything weirder in another day or so. No really.