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Dobbs' ratings dive after reporting on Obama conspiracy theory

Note to self: Making up news stories won't help your ratings.

Since opinionated CNN news anchor Lou Dobbs began reporting on a conspiracy theory story that suggested President Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States, his ratings have fallen some 15 percent.

In two weeks.

Dobbs began reporting on the Obama birth certificate story -- circulated by the hard right -- on Wednesday, July 15. In the following two weeks, his Nielsen ratings dived -- reducing his overall viewers from an estimated 771,000 to 653,000. Among the 25-54 demographic, his ratings fared even worse: Dobbs' average viewers dropped from 218,000 to 157,000. That's a decline of 28 percent.

Popular blog Gawker "congratulated" Dobbs' drop-off in a tongue and cheek rebuke: "Well done Lou, well done. Just go ahead and fax your resume over to Fox News now, because you've probably alienated the average CNN viewer to the point of no return, and, try as you might, the average Fox News viewer isn't going to flip the channel over to CNN ever, even when Shep Smith is on the air."

Even conservative Fox icon Bill O'Reilly isn't buying the Obama born abroad theory.

"I don't know why you guys are overreacting to this," O'Reilly said Monday. "I mean, that's—come on, I mean, it's not true. Mr. Dobbs is trying to get ratings, trying to be provocative."

-John Byrne

94 Responses to “Dobbs' ratings dive after reporting on Obama conspiracy theory”

  1. michael

    What happened? When did news in this country turn into opinions?Some folks like myself believe it has always been this way, only now...it's sunk to levels beyond comprehension. I talk to many people during my day and most are so turned off by the "news" they don't even watch it. Some of my friends are going as far as "unplugging" the cable networks altogether and I applaud them. It's time for Americans to awake from the "slumber" of unconsciousness, go for a walk, play games with their kids, talk to their neighbors and GET A LIFE!! And TURN OFF THESE BONEHEAD, TALKING HEADS!
    Sensationalism and misinformation on television has gone about as low as it can, the master was Joseph Goebbels...Hitler's propaganda minister.

    If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
    --Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister


  2. Mark in Chicago

    What a nice, nice way to start my Friday morning. Thank you, RawStory. And thank you, Lou.


  3. alfredo

    What's the matter with the 653,000 who do watch his program? O.K. there are more knuckle draggers than that in this country. I get it! These are the "ulna" draggeers.


  4. Hang tough Dobbs'..

    In 1961 the Health department used the word Negro not African American...

    Rothschild/CIA Mk Ultra Victim under Protective Custody,

    Both birth certificate and passport were introduced into my life..
    I believe passport was after the law tapped them on the shoulder,,
    Birth certificate I believe was before the law tapped them on the shoulder..

    In fact, I recollect having to send a next day delivery for a birth certificate..
    I could find out when I did this by making a phone call...
    EVERYTHING before the law intervened was for a purpose.
    If in fact this issue of birth certificate was before the Nov.2004 elections,,it was introduced for there discussion...

    I was a 24/7 telephone line for the Rothschild/CIA gang to communicate..


  5. bart

    I deleted CNN from my bookmarks and will never go back to their website or watch any of their clips again. Lou Dobbs is a moron.


  6. Claire

    I refuse to watch CNN again until Lou Dobbs issues an apology and admits the truth about our President being an AMERICAN BORN citizen. Dobb's gave voice to the radical right-wing nutballs who are making these false accusations. The President's birth certificate has been available for public view for months.


  7. As much as the lefties desperately want this story to go away, and as much as they want to dismiss anyone with questions about it as a wingnut, this story isn't going away and as Obama's poll ratings plummet, it is going to become even more prominent in the days to come. Bush was outside the rule of law, and Obama is showing himself to be above the law, but in the end all this relies on people being willing to go along. People are getting fed up, though, as they lose everything while Obama allocates $24+ trillion for the big banks. He's a Bush in Barak clothing. All Barky's records -- school, papers at Harvard and the birth certificate -- have been buried and he has spent over $1 million to keep it that way. Like Mr. Dobbs says, releasing the real copy of his birth certificate would kill this discussion overnight, but he won't do it. Stinky Barky is really starting to show his colors, Bush lite for all intents and purposes. Forget what he said on the Campaign trail, he's as pro war as Bush ever was, and he supported an Updated FISA, bankster bailouts, all of his. Bait and switch Barky I call him. I hope all you Democratic sheeple are getting used to the back pain from the long knife that is repeatedly being thrust between your shoulder blades.


  8. I signed the petition to hav him fired. He's nothing but a hate monger.


  9. From Davie comment,
    . All Barky's records -- school, papers at Harvard and the birth certificate -- have been buried and he has spent over $1 million to keep it that way. Like Mr. Dobbs says, releasing the real copy of his birth certificate would kill this discussion overnight, but he won't do it.

    The question is WHY won't he do it?

    The MSM and there tricks,,
    Birthers,,nobody is having a baby.
    They used the word Birther's to distract from the issue of Eligibility or Natural Born Citizen..

    The MSM is reacting to this issue like 9/11..
    Maybe if they have time today they could print this story,,If there not to busy..

    Bombshell: Bin Laden worked for US till 9/11
    This is from a very credible source,she worked for the FBI, who our government has under the SECOND gag order,,,
    Why is the government keeping her silent?
    Maybe the MSM can use the term fibber to discredit her story...
    It appears the MSM is in bed with the government because they won't do this story,,or
    9/11 and Eligibility!


  10. HortenHordsAHookah

    kayttt2000, you dropped your helmet. Now, let's go outside where the short yellow bus is waiting to take you to the zoo.


  11. Pete

    Barack Obama is a sham and a fake who answers to the Military Industrial Complex and Wall Street, not the American people... so why should I believe anything from a liar?


  12. People have to recognize, especially today, that there is no left or right, only the illusion of left and right which is used to whip the general public into competing camps which then ensures that nothing can change because we as a people are divided always. The mainstream and rapidly collapsing "accepted" media does a great job of keeping those divisions alive -- many such as Anderson Cooper admitted CIA material and the Pentagon spending billions for favorable news coverage -- while distracting from real issues of corruption, criminal behavior and government fraud. But people are waking up to the fact they are being lied to by the mainstream press and are increasingly walking away from these sources of information. So there is hope. And they are hurting like never before, which means they are no longer willing to give the political elites a free pass all the time. This I am sure terrifies many politicians.

    Whether or not Barky is eligible to be president as per the constitution is not about racism; it really speaks to whether the US is still a country that follows the rule of law or not. People on both the left and the right have to stop excusing their dictator for bending or breaking the constitution. Bush was bad, but Barky is proving to be more of the same. People are waking up to just how misalligned their vision of their country is from reality, and are recognizing the threats to both their wealth and their freedom from a government empire -- run it seems by foreign central banks -- that is both criminal and insatiably bloodthirsty.

    The longer this eligibility issue hangs out there -- and it isn't just the birth certificate, its also his school records (was he in the US as a foreign student) and his seeming desire to fight disclosure with everything at his disposal -- the more he leaves the appearance that something smells about this issue. If he had no legal right to run for president, then he has committed fraud as have numerous other bigwigs in the Democratic party. No wonder they are fighting so hard to marginalize anyone who wants the truth.

    And as for 911, which happenned just as Bush's popularity was beginning to collapse, we may be headed into Barky's 911 with a flu pandemic which the Pentagon has said will mean US troops will be used inside the country. (Where is the coverage of that story here?) As the US gets dismantled and weakened ahead of a fall that will potentially see the death of the country on the back of a US dollar collapse, people need to wake up and smell the coffee. Barky was a lie, just as Bush was. We need to start calling these guys on their lies, starting with Barky.


  13. [...] Dobbs’ ratings fall 15% after ‘birther’ stories [...]


  14. Spqr

    DEMOC-rat

    BARACK BARRY HUSSEIN MOHAMED ABADULLAH SOETORO ONYANGO 0BAMA

    ILLEGAL ALIEN , kenya / mombassa


  15. independent

    All the ridiculous "birther" bullshit aside, it's becoming clearer and clearer to me that the left and right have more in common with each other than they originally thought. I'm not talking about mouth breathing, knuckle-dragging, war mongering neo-cons, those people are downright insane and in the deep minority. I'm talking about the remaining paleo-conservatives who are also opposed to bailing out the banks and our continued military actions. I have talked to these people. When it comes to that subject, we agree. They also believe the Gates/Crowley incident to be another overblown media game not worthy of this level of attention.

    Those of you who continue to press the birther routine and/or school records are rapidly losing credibility. If you want to protest the continued support of TARP, Iraq, Afghanistan, the Stimulus Package, or even Healthcare reform, then fine. Those are serious issues to debate. But if you continue to abandon these issue to harp on fallacies that have already been disproven- despite your denials- you will not be taken seriously on any of the issues I have listed above.

    With 911, all evidence was destroyed, obfuscated, tampered with, or locked away. The birth certificate has been vividly presented by the State of Hawaii and endorsed by the republican governor of that State. Please stop embarrassing yourselves and the Country this way.


  16. Carrie

    I actually think the Democrats want this issue to stay alive because it's showing how truly surreal is the world of the right wingnuts. Even thought his birth certificate is out there, along with other records of Obama's birth, the birthers refuse to deal with reality. They are, in fact, hard core racists trying to make an issue out of a non-issue. The deep and hilarious irony is, the person whose citizenship could possibly be in question is John McCain, who definitely was not born in the U.S. While I don't personally believe McCain's citizenship is in question, I find it amusing the birthers don't have any problem with McCain not being born in the U.S., but have a problem with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which is now and was at the date of Obama's birth, a state.

    The birthres are insane, and it's manifest for all to see. They don't understand that the demagogues like Lou Dobbs don't actually believe what they're saying, and that they are just using the birthers' ignorance to divide and rule, which is why when the idiotic Republicans in Congress had to go on the record -- the actual historical record, called their vote -- they all acknowledged that Obama is a citizen of the U.S.

    The birthers can't see the birth certificate Obama already produced, nor can they see the Hawaiian newspapers announcements of Obama's birth, but somehow they can see the $1 million dollars used to suppress records that have already been produced and are in the public records. Yikes!


  17. J Lewd

    Fuck Dobbs and fuck CNN. Excusing Dobbs' racism as "his opinion" and claiming he is guaranteed this right to free speech is a misunderstanding of what our Constitution protects. The Constitution does indeed protect free speech; however, there has been a long-running debate as to whether or not the mass media, and in this case, hate speech (Dobbs' birther bullshit is nothing more than shoddily disguised racism, as is the entire birther movement), are protected by this provision. The Constitution guarantees INDIVIDUAL freedoms; Lou Dobbs shilling his ignorant hatred on CNN and being broadcast around the world for profit and without a public forum through which to redress his comments is not protected. So fuck CNN's president and his cowardly acceptance of this whacko racist's continued crap. And fuck Lou Dobbs with a cattleprod made in Mexico.

    It was never the intent of the Constitution to protect corporations; years of pork barrel politics have diminished this document to the point that fictitious entities now have more rights and less responsibilities than real citizens. The goal of the Constitution was to PROTECT INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES. The document does so even to the extent that it limits government's power.

    Q. Why would a document that limits governmental power allow corporations greater control than it allows itself?

    A. It doesn't. Thanks to paid shills like Max Baucus, Joe LIEbermann, and a parade of political panderers, our Constitution has been weakened to the point that it is a slim shadow of its former self. Congressional cocksuckers will do whatever they're asked to for cash. How do you think these fuckers got so rich?

    And kayttt2000, please take your meds. Your posts are beginning to make about as much sense as Dobbs' rants.

    Davie: Your mama call you that, Davie? Anyway, Davie, you are a fucking moron. No amount of cleverly crafted (albeit hollow) hyperbole can save you. Please take your congenital retardation somewhere else. Here's a site where your "insight" will be greatly appreciated:

    http://retardnews.com/

    And please take kayttt2000 with you -- she's missing her medication. And ask yourself, this, jackass: Where was John McCain born? The answer is painted on the inside of your ass. While you're there, I suggest you look it up.


  18. Mara

    'birthers' will never concede that Obama is an American citizen...not even if the sweet baby Jesus appeared before them and announced that He himself had pulled baby Barack from his mothers womb at the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital on Aug. 4, 1961.

    They're still in the first two stages of grief - denial and anger. I sympathize. I felt the same way in '04 when the majority of Americans decided they wanted four more years of the Unitary Executive. Because I've been there I can excuse them for attempting to nullify my vote and the vote of 64,385,745 other Americans. But they need to realize that this issue HAS been investigated and found to be groundless.

    Why won't he show these nuts his long form? Because he isn't required to. Why won't he open his school records? Because he doesn't have to. Why should he? These people will never be convinced regardless of documentation. No need to feed their obsession.


  19. Ole Sarge betrayed his Shanty Irish Roots. Sure was uncomfortable in that spanking new store bought suit. Probably had a wire coaching him while drinking with his betters.


  20. miss skeptic

    Anyone remember this happening just before the election?

    At the Values Voter Summit this weekend, vendors sold an item called “Obama Waffles” featuring a racist cartoon of Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) on the box front — with “popping eyes and big, thick lips” — and another image of him wearing an Arab-like headdress on its top flap. Its creators, Mark Whitlock and Bob DeMoss, said it was meant as “political satire,” and sold the box for $10 from a booth at the Family Research Council event. CNN’s Lou Dobbs stopped by the booth and exclaimed, “My wife will love this!” A photo shows Dobbs with a box of the mix in his hand.

    This came from ThinkProgress.org.


  21. misstickly

    Obama is a natural born citizen and born in Hawaii.

    Now may we please see his long form birth certificate and any supplementary birth certificates along with all his other records/writings just for the sake of understanding his life and for the historical record?

    It seems he was adopted by Lolo. I want to know about his relationship to his father and his step-father.


  22. if

    Progressives in the house and senate should introduce bills requiring everyone in congress to PROVE they're natural born citizens within 2 weeks or resign their office immediately. That'll shut them up.


  23. C.VAl

    Like Sarah Palin said, the media should stop makin' things up!


  24. Satan

    Poor Mr. Dobbs, as I've watched him over the years, what I see on his face is a man who's slowly being consumed by a hatred that he can't fully reveal to the rest of us or he'd be kicked off t.v.. If you watch his face though, it's plain to see. It kind of looks like he smells shit all the time, that's the look of someone being consumed by hatred and Lou Dobbs just keeps sinking further and further down that hole. It's pathetic, really.


  25. misstickly

    And if Lolo registered Obama in school as a Muslim, that's not Obama's doing. I wish Obama could feel free to talk about that without prejudice.


  26. What a crock . The real issue is that my tribe,the White Anglo-Saxon tribe, will not stand for anything that even sniffs of negro being President.
    Lou Dobbs is Ted Turner's buddy, so don't expect him to go away soon and their both draft-dodging WASPS;so go figure. Dobbs is originally from Texas but went to Harvard and he is not dumb,but I suspect that he isn't taking his meds. He seems to have a little of the Huey Long syndrome (unrealistic populism)


  27. Scuby

    And the dogs continue to bark at the moon and chase dump trucks.
    Its only a matter of time till "Splat"....Let the "birthers" continue
    their feckless rants. All they can achieve is to shine a spot light on
    how stupid and radical they are. Please proceed by all means.


  28. FreedomOfInformationAct

    couldn't have happened to a nicer guy! you reap what you sow neocons!


  29. swtcltinlyh

    Well, when those of your ilk, drop you you know something is too far Right. They also drop him with the vilgilantes on the border psycho talk was running rampart with him.


  30. Jake

    Dobbs has shown his true colors now, this time, more than ever.

    He mighht have gotten away with his hate and disparaging comments about hispanics for a long time, but propagating disgusting lies about the President is another matter. Lou Dobbs racism has finally frothed to the top and shown himself to be right wing scum.

    As for CNN, who really respect that cable network anymore? ...Not even FAUX News respect them, even thought they are desperately trying to be like the FAUX channel.


  31. David R Velasquez

    Kayttt2000, Davie, Michael... all the wishful thinking in the world isn't going to verify your most ardent wish to live in a world where everything left of Adolf Hitler is simply the machination of darker ancient reptilian forces.

    He's president... get over it.

    There are more important issues that require your fertile imaginations.


  32. John - the real one

    Euronational Lou Dobbs is sounding more and more like the father of the infamous uber Eurozionist pig Fallus Admirer. As Satan mentioned, Dobbs is being consumed by his hate;much like Fallas Admirer who is probably posting under some other handle to escape the limelight...............


  33. C.M.

    The "Birthers" insist Pres. Obama's mother was refused a flight home to the U.S. because she was so far along in her pregnancy and thus Obama was born in Kenya. The same people would have us believe Sarah Palin was allowed to fly from Texas to Alaska (with a lay-over in Seattle) AFTER her water broke while she was supposedly pregnant with Trig. They are incapable of rationally looking at the facts because they are primarily driven by the sheer fury of their racism. They have neither the courage to accept reality nor the maturity to live with it and come off as simpletons with really ugly inner lives.


  34. Veronica

    I don't know who is nuttier, Davie, Spqr, or kayttt2000. Well, I guess that's besides the point - they're all bat-shit crazy. Hey, guys - I know a special spa you can check in to, nice, clean rooms, artfully decorated with high-tech padding, cool couture jackets, with bright, shiney buckles to distract you ...

    I do, however, find their psycho-babble pretty goddamned funny! Between these three mental giants, and Lou Dobbs tanking his ratings, Friday's turning out to be a highly entertaining day ... thanks, guys!! I need some good belly-laughs!


  35. StopItNow

    I have to count myself among the deceived.

    Obama is totally in bed with the Industrial Military Complex and the Banksters, hell... even Michelle was a director of the Chicago branch of the CFR.

    Personally I feel the only way for America to have a future is for both sides to agree not to vote D or R... but fear of the enemy-party gaining control due to such defection is what keeps people voting for one of the sides of the same corrupt coin.


  36. Dear David R, and all others so confident of their position that anyone who disagrees with them is insane....

    Interesting indeed that likewise the government and the mainstream media also say people who believe 911 wasn't pulled off by a handful of poorly trained Arabs is insane. Or how they used to say that the Bildeburg Group isn't real and anyone who believed that Bildeberg existed was, likewise, insane. Except now they admit that Bildeburg exists, only that it's for our own good.

    That's the best you guys have, slinging names at anyone who raises questions about your beloved dictator. You think eight years of Bush would have snapped people awake. But I guess as long as its your dictator is in power....

    I mean, I can understand your overwhelming support for Obama, after all once in office he killed Patriot Acts one and two, stopped warrentless wiretapping and the unfolding of the police state, got all our troops out of Iraq just like he said he would during the election, he's been totally open about who's visiting the Whitehouse, he's backed off from threatening Iran and he isn't messing with Pakistan at all, and his economic stimulus package has completely reversed the decline in the economy while revitalizing industry in the US. ( I mean, given how much money he has given the big banks, he could have paid off all the mortgages in the country and that might have done lots more to stimulate things financially, but he undeniably has reversed America's steep decline economically, right? I mean, they say so on TV, so it must be true, right?)

    Interesting.

    And his appreciation for people wanting to know that they don't have a usurper in office has been extraordinary, and its only cost him $1 million to mantain that illusion. Mind you, it would have cost nothing to make these records available to the public, but, well, might open some interesting cans of worms I suppose.

    What this verifies for me, sadly, is the US is no longer a country that respects the rule of law, and people are OK with that. As long as my puppet -- and he is indeed a puppet for outside interests determined to literally rape this country -- is the one in power, I don't care what he does..

    Well, we get the government we deserve, I suppose. Financial year end for the US is September 30th, we shall see what this site has to say about things when the US is no longer able to finance the massive $2 Trillion debt Obama has racked up. Obama is currently already at the lowest poll numbers for a modern president, and again, this issue will not die until Mr. Obama either willingly or is forced to present the goods. Because any law he signs that impacts someone -- they have standing -- can be challenged in the courts, you will be hearing more about this issue. And just as the government asks concerning the War on Terror, if you have nothing to hide, why worry?


  37. [...] http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/dobbs-ratings-dive/ [...]


  38. Just to quickly clarify the above comment, (36) Obama is now at the lowest numbers of a modern day president at this point in time in his presidency.


  39. disgusted in dc

    The only thing missing from "The Lou Dobbs Show", is the sheet over his head.


  40. ray

    after all the idiotic comments I thought I would add a thought: the Dems do not want the crazies to go away ... they hope every GOP party member joins the bandwagon ... then in 2016 he will show you the "original" birth certificate ... one of two ways you can react ... be so embarrassed as to hide or attack the "original" as a fake ... but either way you will have exposed yourselves for what you are ... now what this may do for the Dems is to crush the GOP forever as a party which attracts loonies i.e. a party with no ideas


  41. Lou Dobbs stopped UAE getting control of our ports after 9/11. That makes him a Porter? I am a Porter too. Obama should show the original long form birth certificate and all the other records and then resign and go back to Indonesia.


  42. sd

    his Nielsen ratings dived -- by all means we cannot have lou asking real questions these days he has got to fall in line with the rest of the no news media..you know JUNK NEWS...


  43. sd

    ( LILLY)

    I signed the petition to hav him fired. He's nothing but a hate monger

    well good for you since you like giving up freedom of speach, SHUT THE FUCK UP!


  44. [...] Dobbs began reporting on the Obama birth certificate story — circulated by the hard right — on Wednesday, July 15. In the following two weeks, his Nielsen ratings dived — reducing his overall viewers from an estimated 771,000 to 653,000. Among the 25-54 demographic, his ratings fared even worse: Dobbs’ average viewers dropped from 218,000 to 157,000. That’s a decline of 28 percent. READ MORE… [...]


  45. Ron

    The "birthers" and "deathers" are getting so interestingly convoluted that I am beginning to hope that Obama somehow is NOT a citizen. That way, on January 21, 2013, he can brag that he really wasn't elected any more than Bush was and be 100% correct in that statement. And then he can say, "The only thing better than 'Diebold' is to 'live bold'!" I can hear the thunderous applause already.


  46. independent

    There is no form of his birth certificate that will appease these nuts. It wouldn't matter if the Pope himself showed it to them. It simply doesn't matter. Once they have bought off on this notion, their own foolish pride gets in the way of reality.

    I see people here wailing over $2 trillion in debt, but no outrage over the $5 trillion thrown away during the Bush Regime? Most of that $2 trillion hasn't been spent yet, but some are already deeming it a failure after just a few months. that sounds more like propaganda to me rather than frank reality. Another reason to doubt the credibility of these people clinging to the "birther" notion.

    I have plenty to disagree with Obama on, mostly his appeasement of the rat-bastards in the GOP who don't deserve the time of day. The "Blue Dogs" also need to be put into their place. I'm not sure why he won't drop the hammer on these assholes.

    I also regret giving the banks the TARP money. This was the brain child of Bush/Cheney, but was continued under Obama, unfortunately. If the banks were "too big to fail" then I say they are too big, period. They should be broken up into parts to increase the competitive balance that is "allegedly" the heart of true capitalism.

    There is plenty more to debate on than a birth certificate that has been forwarded and is available for viewing. If that isn't enough, get on the next plane to Hawaii and look at it for yourselves. You aren't so special that they will mail you the original straight to your mailbox.


  47. blady

    All the way, baby--Dobbs' ratings, that is--all the way to the bottom!


  48. J Lewd

    Oh, Fallus Admirer, your ignorance, like herpes, is the gift that keeps on giving.

    It doesn't surprise me one bit that you'd call yourself a "porter" (although the name besmirches a much more honorable group of people by ill association, that being the BCSP), a birther, or any other idiotic-fringe-conspiracy-group-er.

    More suprising is your continued appearance here on TRS.


  49. is dobbs even human


  50. barebones

    I stopped watching Lou Dobbs when he got all stupid about Ron Paul. Lou, you were my hero until then. I couldn't believe you could diss Ron Paul like you did. Suddenly I couldn't stomach the show any longer.


  51. J Lewd

    Davie:

    I call bullshit on your lie:

    Obama's approval rating as of July 31, 2009: 56%.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/121934/Obama-Approval-Slips-Three-Points-Past-Week.aspx

    GW Bushit's approval rating as of July 22, 2001: 56% (a week later, it was 55%).

    http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm

    Here's a fact --

    fact (fkt) n.
    1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: as an account based on fact.
    2.a. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: as genetic engineering is now a fact; that Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
    2.b. A real occurrence; an event.
    2.c. Something believed to be true or real.

    --that's a lot more telling:

    Biggest approval rating difference during the President's time in office:
    George W. Bush is tied for the record, with 65 percentage points.
    Harry S. Truman is tied for the record, with 65 percentage points.
    George H.W. Bush is third highest, with 60 percentage points.
    Jimmy Carter is fourth highest, with 47 percentage points.

    Suck on those facts instead of your manufactured bullshit.


  52. J Lewd

    And that's only in comparison to the previous president.


  53. Patience

    No ratings of other shows in his news slot for comparison? I don't care for his show, but aren't at least part of the point of ratings to show advertisers how one show does versus another in a given time-slot and therefor where to spend?


  54. wiseturtle

    Tke KKKrackers have cracked.


  55. J Lewd

    P.S. -- Davie, you should have waited six weeks to gleefully spin your lie: Bushit's approval rating soared in September 2001 based on the false flag event he, Dick Cheney, and good buddy Osama Bin Laden laid on America.

    Which only goes to show: in times of fear and need for comfort, even a wire monkey is preferred to no monkey at all:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harlow.


  56. Hide the truth

    What no Dobbs tonight - bummer - Pres. Obama its time for a false flag to get those rating back up.


  57. farang

    I never could tolerate the incessant presence of CNN on hotel, store and shop TV's when traveling domestically and overseas (and always get filled with dread thinking foreigners believe this crap is legitimate American sentiment).

    I stopped visiting the CNN website in late 2002, when it featured a "Bull's-eye on Saddam" box hawking the avowed Zionist Wolf Blitzer's show which had the blatant objective of fomenting antagonism towards an obviously scapegoated and innocent Iraq.
    He needs to be hung as a traitor, War Criminal/Propagandist. I wonder when that moment will come?

    To me, Dobb's has always been the smug, modulated nitwit. This type story is to foster the "battle" between the fake opposition party's followers. To provide a place to "vent" for Right-wingers disturbed they are "out-of-power" (but not truly, as Obama continues on uninterrupted the CFR's agenda) and providing fodder for jokes from the Left.

    It's to distract us from burning down the Fed. From Insisting we get UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE. From Insisting the DOD budget get cut by $400 billion/year, the 1000 foreign bases closed, all the troops brought home and the illegal occupations end now.

    From ending the dominance of foreign and corporate interests over Citizen and Country's best interests.

    My friends, it is ALL an illusion to Control us.


  58. Lazlo de la Renta

    Word at my Guard unit is that some DoD bigwigs have been on the phone with some GOP patriots and Obama is going to be removed before Labor Day. The Democrats had their chance, blew it and abandoned their responsibility to defend America and it's almost too late to invade Iran.


  59. [...] own Colmes to his Hannity – Kitty Pilgrim – reported on his All Immigration, All the Time Show that Obama had produced, and the State of Hawaii confirmed, his birth certificate. It’s hard to [...]


  60. FreedomOfInformationAct

    Go ahead and dream on pubbies, President Barack Hussein Obama is going to be in office for at least three and half more years. And if you run Sarah Palin in 2012, Obama will still be the first black president of our United States until 2016!


  61. chabuka

    Lou Dobbs ratings fell 15%...since he started babbling the right-wings lunatics fringe "scare-tactics" on the "news"...? Imagine...! Thats because at least 75% of the people are finally able to recognizes a nut job when they see one......the fog of the fear-based insanity that enveloped this country after 9/11, perpetuated by eight long years of Bush and Republican Authoritarian Rule... is finally dissipating


  62. atwitsend

    Barry and his conies have spent a ton of money keeping the truth about our so called resident in chief from the people.
    I think ita about time some one from the MSM started questioning who in the hell is Barry aka Barky really!!
    it doesn't take a poll from the MSM nor bloggers to get it. talking to people all over this country, they know they are just shaking their heads waiting for some one else to straighten out the mess.
    we haven't had a real honest president during my life time, except one and they blew his head off..he wanted top do away with the Knights CIA and the Jesuits Fed reserve. now this Barry clown visits the Pope. if people don't get whats happening then might as well say good bye


  63. False Flags 'R Us

    Barry Sortero, Michelle his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, Bill Ayers and ACORN might pull off another false flag soon as they did like 9/11.


  64. Independent

    Lazlo-

    You're full of shit, and if you weren't, there would end up being a lot of dead "GOP patriots" (an oxymoron) littering the countryside around here.

    I suggest we air drop you over Tehran and you can work out your differences with the Iranians.


  65. DJ

    Lazlo, our military equipment is broken and worn out, our soldiers are broken and worn out, and we owe a buttload of money to China. We're still stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan. How can we afford to invade Iran?

    I hope the FBI tracks you down for advocating the forced removal of our president. Traitorous idiot.


  66. blynn

    I think what has happened to Dobbs is sad. I liked him once, even though he is too much of a free-market idolator and a little too military for my tastes, back in 2001-2002, when he fulminated nightly against Enron and all its co-conspirators who pauperized utility ratepayers and their own investors. Then came the invasion of Iraq, but he was hardly alone in his war-mongering jingoism, so I just had to turn off the tube. Then, his obsession with immigration made me wonder about his sanity. And the birther business? I no longer wonder. Has anyone ever noticed how many lionized conservatives have actual, diagnosed organic brain disease? Reagan, Charleton Heston, and Barry Goldwater all died of Alzheimer's; Thatcher is said to have it; and no one can look at Zell Miller, Glenn Beck, and (now) Lou Dobbs and think that a neurologist should not be consulted.


  67. dennycrane

    He needs to dye his hair more republican "red" for a better image on HDTV.


  68. damixaustex

    Dobbs should move to AM radio where he belongs. He intentionally misled about immigration, China, and Obama's birth. He is dishonest with himself and his viewers. Nice to see they're finally figuring it out.


  69. Uncle Bhumi

    Why is it that the average (by average I mean the folks who find some kind of release in watching the News after a long day of working) american Newsviewer has to have EVERYTHING just soooo perfect about his/her country. What if there ARE things that are just wrong? What if all the so-called "conspiracy theories" are NOT theories at all, but realities.

    I tend to blush and look askance at the mention of November 22, 1963; and mainly because I DO NOT KNOW what happened in Dallas, Texas that day. I am willing to listen to or read from those who were there, or from those who have the priviledge of taking a closer look; and in the face of many History Channel Documentaries to the contrary, I do believe the News Media should re-examine the role played by Lee H. Oswald WITH THE SOLE AIM OF EXONERATING HIM, rather than, as has been the trend since that day of horror, with the sole aim of convicting him....repeat this phrase to yourself several times: A chicken is a bird, a parrot is not a chicken. There is a peculiar UN-willingness on the part of those invested with the public trust to be logical, even when it is painful to do so, and may hint that all is not soooo perfect within our land and the people who govern it. Justice for a President, a Navy Secretary, a Movie Starlett, or two gigantic buildings may be more difficult due simply to the NUMBERS OF VOTES INVOLVED than justice for ethnic minorities expressed in political appointments.

    Smoothed-over sound bites of important events and ridicule of those who would like to see more fact-based objective news will not make the truth behind these stories go away and it will emerge, one day, wet as a new-born and restoring and affirming the fire of Liberty. Bravo, Lou, keep at it.


  70. Wideawake08

    Great Job LOU!
    For all you deniers of truth, liberty and the constitution......
    GO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE...GET THE HELL OUT OF THE US!


  71. Robert Forte

    it was "conspiracy theory" that drew me to this article. whenever that mindless phrase is propagated as something dismissive, there is usually something stinky.

    obama is a shill for the neocons. he's been groomed, like bill clinton before him, to be the "reform candidate" to make the idiotic americans believe there has been some change in the government. the superficial changes that he attempts and which draw so much attention from the complicit media to the stupified general public, further the illusion quite effectively.

    if he had a valid birth certificate it would have been shown. i am not going to be surprised if this is played in advance to make way for the presidency of austrian born nazi arnold...

    the book that i hope is soon published in America is the (south american) best selling, HITLER WON THE WAR, that explains in patient detail how the Nazis reconstituted themselves after their only apparent defeat, in the US national security state and fulfilled Hitler's 1939 vow to come back and attack manhattan, and destroy America economically.

    or read FAREWELL AMERICA, the French intelligence report mourning the demise of the USA following JFK's murder by these same Nazis.

    The bad guys are way ahead of us. You moronic "liberals" that praise this fascist war criminal because he is a black man, are a bigger problem than the sinister fucks in the Bush camp who attacked us on 9/11. read a book, wake up, America is hardly worth saving from its own massive stupidity...


  72. it was "conspiracy theory" that drew me to this article. whenever that mindless phrase is propagated as something dismissive, there is usually something stinky.

    obama is a shill for the neocons. he's been groomed, like bill clinton before him, to be the "reform candidate" to make the idiotic americans believe there has been some change in the government. the superficial changes that he attempts and which draw so much attention from the complicit media to the stupified general public, further the illusion quite effectively.

    if he had a valid birth certificate it would have been shown. i am not going to be surprised if this is played in advance to make way for the presidency of austrian born nazi arnold...

    the book that i hope is soon published in America is the (south american) best selling, HITLER WON THE WAR, that explains in patient detail how the Nazis reconstituted themselves after their only apparent defeat, in the US national security state and fulfilled Hitler's 1939 vow to come back and attack manhattan, and destroy America economically.

    or read FAREWELL AMERICA, the French intelligence report mourning the demise of the USA following JFK's murder by these same Nazis.

    The bad guys are way ahead of us. You moronic "liberals" that praise this fascist war criminal because he is a black man, are a bigger problem than the sinister fucks in the Bush camp who attacked us on 9/11. read a book, wake up, America is hardly worth saving from its own massive stupidity...


  73. scoobydoo

    In for a penny...in for a pound. LOU DOBBS should go through all the questions surrounding the birth certificate issue and all the info that appears to miss vanishing about OBAMA. Then he may get some people sitting up and taking notice instead of just dismissing everything.


  74. RJ

    Wideawake08: Suck a fat one, racist. Take your mouthbreathing ignorance and get the fuck offa my lawn. All you whitey white racist asshats bitching about someone else's illegitimate right to citizenship make me sick: no doubt, you're a potato-eater whose knuckledragging relatives got kicked out of Europe for inbreeding and wound up as stowaways on a boat coming to America. Four generations later, and you somehow delude yourself that you're a "real American" -- that's fuckin' rich. You're about as American as pigeons, and unfortunately as prolific.

    America: love it AND leave it, asshole. Our collective intelligence can only rise in your absence.


  75. Stephen Martin

    This is vintage Lou Dobbs. If he could blame a rainy day on illegal immigrants, then why not make Obama one?

    His vocal delivery, facial gestures, the nuances in the vocabulary used to describe Mexican Immigrants is dehumanizing and racist. He walks that fine line thinking he's being a populist, when he is a racist.

    There have been issues I can agree with him on, but most of the time about 1/3 through the show I feel like I'm watching FOX News. I like Fox cartoon shows better although their news division can make me cry and/or chuckle. I hope Fox doesn't overpay anyone over there....but to the contrary, people go there for the money. CNN has lost a few to them. Sad state of affairs. It's like doctors who go into medicine only the money and have bad bedside manners. They need a shoe thrown at them....and sometimes it happens!

    When Walter Cronkite died, Time magazine did an informal poll of people who overwhelmingly chose JON STEWART of Comedy Central as the "Most Trusted" newsman of our time. Stewart is a very bright man and good for him...but what does that say when Comedy Central is where the top newsman?

    That is how much news telling/giving has changed, and Stewart would be the first to say so, none of the others will because they are too afraid of losing their jobs. And if they had said it, I haven't heard it.


  76. Douglas

    This is just a manufactured issue designed to distract just as all the other manufactured issues designed to distract. Some are just nuttier than others. Ya gotta find every last one of them 'Merican TV watchers....


  77. vinnie

    This is so simple. What does it take to be a NATURAL BORN citizen? Both your parents have to be US CITIZENS. Were both Obama's parents US CITIZENS? .....NO. His father was a British citizen of Kenya.

    If Obama was born in the US, is he natural born? Not with one parent a British citizen, he isnt.

    Does a president have to be a natural born citizen? YES.
    Is Obama a natural born citizen? You figure it out.

    It doesnt matter where Obama was born, youre barking up the wrong tree. He may be a citizen of the US, BUT IS HE NATURAL BORN?

    Congressional hearing proved it didnt matter where John Mc Cain was born.
    Both his parents were US citizens. McCain is a natural born citizen and was eligible to run for presidency.


  78. wiseturtle

    The Republiklan Party is nothing more than a crime syndicate consisiting a bunch of racist, whacked-out sociopaths.


  79. seen2much

    Watching you lefties and righties go at it is like watching a two-headed dim-witted giant bludgeon itself to death.. Only thing that keeps me from laughing is that Liberty and the truth keep getting smashed in your wild flailing. Documents can be forged, and if anybody can forge them, I'm sure POTUS could pull it off, did you know that counterfeiting is investigated by the secret service, and that when somebody goes into the witness protection program, the FBI gets the new documents from the secret service? Enough time and confusion has elapsed that obama can now present airtight documents, so continuing to argue this point is just a waste of energy and time. You "birthers" should focus your energies elsewhere, you subscribe to this immense conspiracy that is just too easy to disprove and cover up, you claim that there is "proof" to disprove obamas presidential eligibility, yet somehow you claim you will be placated if proper documentation can be presented BY A HIGH RANKING AUTHORITY THAT CONTROLS THE ABILITY TO MAKE LEGITIMATE DOCUMENTS OF AIRTIGHT INSCRUTABILITY AT WILL!!!! How stupid can you really be? Are you that bored and desperate?!?!?!?! There are PLENTY of other things you could point out that would do more to change things, but let me guess... That would require too much research and effort on your part... Hell, just attack his idiotic policies, and his continuance of the bush era policies(that's a two for one win, since it erodes even his most dedicated base... but you have no interest in that, since you want those powers for when your dictator comes into power, keep dreaming you palin pukes..). As for you obamabots, you are no better than the neonazicons, you know what evil was wrought upon this country by bushco and chenyburton, and you argued so eloquently the evils being committed by the neonazicons, but when that very evil is continued by "your boy", you suddenly start spputtering out the justifications that the neonazicons have been droning on about since 2001... Those who propagate evil are even more evil than those who started the evil, for they know better...

    You fools are not enemies to each other, you are merely two sides of the same coin, inseparable, and unable to see how truly thin the difference is between you. Neither one of you is capable of change, no matter what side lands up. You are only good to purchase the sundries of tyranny, injustice, war, servitude, and rape.
    that's ok though, for history will "render unto ceaser what is ceasers.." and you will experience the full force of what your simple-minded willful ignorance can purchase. You truly deserve the history you are about to inflict upon yourselves. I wish you no luck, and I will spare you no pity, there was never a generation more deserving of the comeuppance you seem so intent on inflicting upon yourselves.


  80. jimbo

    Hey RJ,

    I got a big fat one you can suck on right after your through eating your fried chicken and watermelon. LMFAO! "Get out of your country" Go back to Africa and take that sorry POS you call a president with you.


  81. jimbo

    You can always tell when liberal scum have lost an argument. It's when those that disagree with them are called, "racist". When you got nothing else to contribute to a debate you can always choose the mindless alternative, just call them, "racist".

    Here a "racist", there a "racist", everywhere a "racist", "racist", "racist", Ol McLiberal found a "racist" E-i-E-i-O. With a disagreement there and a disagreement here, Got to be a racist, racist, racist, It's a fact, the more stupid a liberal gets the more "racist" they find. It's easy to red flag a stupid liberal just by the number of "racist" he sees. Quick, what's that behind you? Got to be a racist. Look, under the bed! Another racist! Them "racist", there everywhere you know.

    So, your not happy with an illegal immigrant being your president? Your just a "racist". You got a problem with your freedoms and liberties being taken by the Obama? Your just a "racist".

    Who says a mind is a terrible thing to waste? You would have to have a mind before you can waste one.


  82. Mark-Alan Lynch

    Herr Dobbs is a pathetic excuse for a human being. Why any rational, thinking individual would listen to him except for comedic content, is fascinating. It's also quite telling when those that DO watch him, the truly unbalanced, start seeing him for what he is- a mental defective. Keep up the good work, Louise.


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  84. wiseturtle

    Obviously jimbo the idiot is a total brainwashed nut job! You have lost more freedoms under the criminal Bush admin. than you will ever under President Obama. The Patriot ACT for example.... Where were you and your kindred then?
    What freedoms have you lost?
    Come on klanner, can't see the light before the cross?
    Go back to that freeper site where you will have much company with the rest of the birthers looney bin!


  85. "damixaustex" notes where


    Dobbs should move to AM radio where he belongs. He intentionally misled about immigration, China, and Obama's birth. He is dishonest with himself and his viewers. Nice to see they're finally figuring it out.

    I understand he already has a radio presence in addition to Lou Dobbs Tonight; of note, too, is that Media Matters for America has noted where cross-promotion between Dobbs' radio and TV shows is evident.

    And where does this "Lazlo de la Renta" get the idea about


    Word at my Guard unit is that some DoD bigwigs have been on the phone with some GOP patriots and Obama is going to be removed before Labor Day. The Democrats had their chance, blew it and abandoned their responsibility to defend America and it's almost too late to invade Iran.

    If there is independent confirmation of this claim, then what exactly is the FBI or the Secret Service doing?


  86. JustMyOpinion

    As someone who does watch Lou Dobbs every night, it is obvious a lot of you don't. He has always said he knows Obama is American born but this scorn for even discussing it is over the top in that no one is allowed anymore to discuss anything about Obama unless it is postivie? Why can't he discuss what this story is all about? I am beginning to wonder what some democrats even stand for anymore. Democrats calling for his censorship or firing are no better than the republicans who complained about Whoopi and other dems and who got them fired as well.


  87. jimbo

    Wiseturtle,

    Why not just shorten your user name and make it more real? How about "wiseturd"? That maybe would cover all the bases your trying to cover. Everyone knows Bush is a criminal. Got anymore earthshaking news like maybe WW2 is over? Hello! anyone home?Get a clue! The POS in the white house was supposed to bring "change" from the Bush admin, NOT duplicate it. Maybe it's because he is black or simi-black that your willing to turn your head and talk down Bush while glorifing the Obama who is guilty of the same or worse.

    The former USSR sure called it right when they said, people like you are "useful idiots". Useful because you advocate the Communist doctrine for free," Idiot" because your to stupid to even know it. Your so much of a fool, you are willing to follow and vote for some illegal immigrant because he goes around saying, "change", "change", "change". He never will produce any "change". Why shoud he when he has useful idiots like yourself who will apoligise and make excuses for his impotency and treachery?

    Dumbass, in case you haven't noticed it's the obama who's ratings are falling out the bottom, not, Dobb's. No, it's not another "racist" or "Klansman" news channel reporting this. No conspiracy here! It's mainstream media and even some liberal media also.

    So, come on wiseturd tell us more of all those wonderful things the Obama has done/is doing for this country and try to keep it real .........as in not lying. OK?

    Don't forget to hug your Karl Marx action figure!


  88. Veronica

    Jimbo's an angry white boy - LOL!


  89. Veronica

    Vinnie:

    You dumbass, only one parent need by a U.S. citizen ... why don't you get your head out of your ass and try reading the fucking law before displaying your rampant ignorance.


  90. Thomas Brown

    Veronica:

    Actually, NEITHER parent need be a citizen, as long as you are born on US soil. Think about it... otherwise there would be no such concept as "anchor babies" born here to illegal immigrants.

    BORN ON US SOIL = NATURAL-BORN CITIZEN.

    You Birfer retards: Buy a clue. Really. And don't operate any heavy machinery.

    Any bets as to how many Birfers also believe the world is 6000 years old, and Adam & Eve rode bareback on dinosaurs?


  91. Veronica

    Thomas Brown:

    You would be correct. But these Birfers don't realize that even if he WAS born in Kenya, his mother was a U.S. Citizen.


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