Obama appointee Alexia Kelley on The O'Reilly Factor.
President Barack Obama has tapped an anti-abortion activist to a senior Health and Human Services "faith-based" position just a week after the murder of prominent abortion doctor George Tiller.
Alexia Kelley is executive director of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good (CACG), and will head the Center for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships at the Department of Health and Human Services.
According to The American Prospect, a liberal magazine, "Kelley is a leading proponent of 'common ground' abortion reduction -- only CACG's common ground is at odds with that of Obama. While the administration favors reducing the need for abortion by reducing unintended pregnancies, Kelley has made clear that she seeks instead to reduce access to abortion."
Kelley's appointment appears yet more salient in lieu of the fact that President Obama has expanded the faith-based project of the executive branch to include public policy -- with an eye toward reducing the need for abortions.
But a Prospect blogger, Sarah Posner, points out that opposition to the nomination can be found simply in an argument that "reproductive health is a public health, not a religious issue."
"Obama finds himself now in the difficult position of having elevated the importance of religion to making policy, and having appointed a religious figure whose opinions on policy conflict with his," the blogger notes.
Catholics for Choice criticized the pick in a press release, Posner notes.
"The Department of Health and Human Services is responsible for providing and expanding access to key sexual and reproductive health services," the group said. "As such, we need those working in HHS to rely on evidence-based methods to reduce the need for abortion. We need them to believe in men's and women's capacity to make moral decisions about their own lives. Unfortunately, as seen from her work at CACG, Ms. Kelley does not fit the bill."
News of the announcement also comes as some liberals are questioning Sotomayor's pro-choice credentials. Her silence on the issue has drawn support from key figures on the right -- among them conservative activist Bill Donahue. Donahue has said he'll "quietly root" for Sotomayor.
-John Byrne
I wish Obama would stop appointing low life types from the dark side to key positions.
Getting old.
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My question is this...whatever happened to the separation of church and state, and why the hell is their a "faith-based" center within a government department? I didn't vote for this.
Obama is just as bad as the Bushes.... when since did we all agree to allow the marriage church & state?
I'm glad I voted for Cynthis MCKinney... she was the only one with integrity. Just keep watching Obama NOT keep his promises.
You have got to be fucking kidding me!!!? Obama is turning out to be more like a stealth gop candidate. First, he appoints Geitner, allows Gates to stay, puts Tom Vilsack (Mr. Monsanto) as secretary of agriculture, appoints Salazar who favors big agra and has strong ties with the coal and mining industries to head the Dept. of the Interior and now Sotomayor who seems to have anti choice proclivities and looks to be pro corporate as well. Yeah this is CHANGE alright, CHANGE the gop can believe in. How I wish Kucinich were in the oval office instead of this asshat...Let's not mention the fact that all the war criminals of the previous administration get a Get Out of Jail free card as well. Read Greg Palast's article on the bankruptcy of GM (if you've got hypertension, take your meds first).
this is change? he's just pouring more gas on the taliban right wing fundie terrorists.
Enough already with egalitarian posturing...
Pick a Kucinich, a Nader, a Moore, a Klein, a Goodman or a Sheehan.
Someone who makes sense, has feelings and demonstrates courageous humanitarian values.
And yes pursue the law as it is written and defend our constitution rather than reward those who use the flag only as a mask, their religion as a truncheon.
What is President Obama's obsession with recruiting right wing activist, corporate supporters, union busters, extremely conservative Republicans and economist lovers of the old excisting banking (greed is good) system. One main reason so many liberals voted for him, was his stance on abortion rights (pro choice). There are so far no indications what the new Supreme court nominee's position are which is very scary and would be a slap in the face of woman's rights. It is one thing to use words to say he is pro choice, but all his actions so far point in a different direction. That catholic extremist Donohue is secretly supporting his choice is very worrisome. Alexis Kelly is exactly the wrong person to support that pro choice position to. I believe that all pro choice woman and men should be very worried indeed with all of Obama's choices. So far all his position and demand for change have been softened by such a degree, that they become basically meaningless. You just cannot keep saying we are going to close Guatanamo and than have no plans, but endless delays and weakened positions. New regulation for banks has been put on the back burner. Abandoning the "greed is good" system that broke down this country is never mentioned again. Single person health-care complete disappeared. War in Iraq, might go on many years longer than he promised, etc. All big words early on by him and his campaign, but none of them have been even closely realized. President Obama might be come the biggest disappointment in American history, if he keeps going this way. History has never been good to people who make false promises.
Democrats have to be very careful before they turn into a new mediocrity party, where love of money .
Enjoying the silver tongue show?
Obama=one term president. People are realizing that Obama was nothing but fluff on the campaign trail. He has been totally mum on gay rights when he promised to overturn don't ask, don't tell and has done nothing so far and even his press secretary doesn't know whats going on half the time. He has not issued one word regarding Prop. 8 here in CA or the states that have legalized same sex marriage, not one word. I am sick and tired of politicians promising this and that on the campaign trail just to get your vote and once they got it they discard you like trash. Unless I see the promises that he made on the campaign trail before the next election, then he will absolutely not be getting my vote again.
This is excellent news. Kelley is a strong opponent of the abomination known as abortion. I.e. baby killing. Obama may just turn out to be like Clinton, a moderate Democrat, on social issues, as opposed to the socialist he sometimes appears to be on economic issues. He is not out championing the sickening spectacle of gay marriage. He continues to appoint conservative Republicans to posts. He is maintaining the Bush administration's best policies to thwart terror. He even has come to realize that his stupid campaign promises to loony-leftist wackos, like pulling out of Iraq and closing Guantanamo, are unworkable. He's fighting any prosecution of Bush administration officials for their legitimate use of torture to keep us safe. Now if only we can get him to drop this nutty desire to socialize health care, and push him to roll back those tax increases he keeps talking about, he'll be doing pretty well. I don't care how many Saudi sheiks he bows before, just keep appointing conservatives and stealth conservatives like Sotomayor, who's voted more pro-business and pro-freedom than Souter, and his presidency will be a success. He could even have two terms like Clinton did. Only the nutso wacko leftists on here and Southern racists will be against him, and that's not even enough people to fill the state of Texas.
And unlike Clinton, he doesn't slobber every time a young female walks into the room. He appears to like and enjoy a Christian marriage with Mrs. Obama, like George W. Bush did with his love wife. It's a little thing, but it counts.
More and more Obama appears to be Bush-lite. I am also glad I did not vote for him. He has left progressives behind and is catering to Republicans and conservatives. We have been duped!!!!!
To Rex Ozone and Dallas, spot on with your comments. Obama reminds me of the dictator that was on one of the Gilligan's Island episode, the one that keeps saying "I promise you this, that and everything else". We need a better alternative than the current two party system, I've come across this site :http://www.newamericanindependent.com/
They espouse pro-choice (especially issues of overpopulation), pro-worker, anti-war and pro environmental issues. They're the new kid on the block, but they may have something there, they caught my eye. They seem a lot better alternative then the RepubliCrat corporate owned system that we have now. See what you think.
Cheers.
Rev Rick Warren was my first disappointment. Then Gates & not following up in any way to punish deads that happened in the past 8 years. The wars are still being fought, additional troops sent in. This is really disappointing. I now know not to waste gas to go vote. This country is run by the corporations and the CIA.
Wait for the super inflation!
[...] dissents from my view here, here, here, [...]
Where is the orinciple of equality?
Where is the Office of Non-Faith thought?
Freethinkers are discriminated gainst everywhere.
[...] Obama taps anti-abortion activist to faith-based health post. “President Barack Obama has tapped an anti-abortion activist to a senior Health and Human [...]
Former Fed writes:
"Obama is turning out to be more like a stealth gop candidate."
Exactamundo: the Obama Organization appears to be in league with the ELITIST wing of the corporate Republicans ... who until now have been vaguely PRO-abortion, which makes this appointment a scary kind of crypto-Mormon head-scratcher.
Next time, if there ever IS one, maybe the "liberal" press won't be railroaded by an accidental "black" birthday sut. When Obaama's outta there in 2012, it'll be a looong time before there's a(nother) "black" president -- guess that was a planned plus for the white corporados who run Him: one of Obaama's assignments seems to be to give a demonstration that a "black" US president just can't hack it.
The bailout business, however -- actually turning over the Treasury to the corporations, and now tapping an Enron player to flack the Fed -- suggests He's actually more of a stealth FASCIST, than a "small government" Republican.
President Obama's primary legacy will be that on his watch Roe v. Wade was overturned and pregnant women, primarily impoverished pregnant women and teenage girls, once again had to resort to back-alley and do-it-yourself abortions, sometimes leading to their deaths.
Alexia Kelley's selection (probably by former DLC head Rahm Emanuel) to a position at HHS is just like Monica Goodling being selected by the corrupt and criminal Bush administration to work at the DOJ...and for the same purpose...put a Christian terrorist sympathizer in place to warp and twist policies to fit the hardcore Christian religious fundamentalist agenda...and to hell with the plight of pregnant women, or in the case of Goodling, the rule of law.
Alexia Kelly is just another "forced labor" religious fundamentalist advocate who will inject her religious prejudice between doctors and their pregnant patients. We know that this was the policy position of the previous Bush administration, and with Kelley's selection, it now appears to be the policy position of the Blue Dog DINO Democrats in the Obama administration.
Therefore, Roe v. Wade is at greater risk today than it has ever been, with pregnant women consequently being at greater risk of losing their right to decide for themselves what they want to do relative to their pregnancy.
I'm over it, another vote thrown away................Sorry Dennis Kucinich you were right along....U.S. CONTINUING its spiraling nose dive
You folks really are a laugh - you actually believed that Obama meant anything he said.
When you read "Democrat" think "Mafia", when you read "progressive" think "naive 12 year old" - and one can pretty well predict how they will act.
"Change we can beleve in."
All the suckers that allowed themselves to fall for that!
Why are any of you surprised with what messiah Obama is doing? BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU REFUSED TO EXAMINE HIS BUSH-ACCOMPLICE VOTING RECORD.
It was quite clear to those who weren't in denial who this man was BEFORE THE ELECTION.
It's just that most people chose to live in Denial and wanted a lord and savior in a politician.
Change is going to have to come from THE PEOPLE. Not from some useless, Bush-accomplice millionaire politician who charades as a "Dem."
I believe many are erroneously of the opinion that being liberal means one must me be pro-gay and pro-choice. I think you can be a moral person who stands for absolute values while simultaneously espousing liberalism. I therefore applaud President Obama for his choice of Ms Kelley. I also hope that he succeeds in changing the perception that democrats stand for everything decadent.
Reality Based
You folks really are a laugh - you actually believed that Obama meant anything he said.
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Well really, they are PATHETIC. They are not a "laugh." There is nothing funny about it at all. Only a juvenile or a child would find this funny. Because of gullible, naive, insipid, partisan Dem kool-aid drinking people who allowed themselves once again to fall for some slick millionaire politician with a D behind his name who spewed marketing slogans every breath, we are stuck with messiah Obushma who is continuing the Bush agenda, just as some of us predicted he would. There's nothing funny whatsoever.
Most people didn't have the maturity, the intelligence or foresight to vote for Nader or McKinney. Both are true, real progressives with very credible platforms. Most people voted as they have been programmed to do so: for the person with a D behind the name. And in most cases these days, a D = R. But most D voters choose to live in Denial about that. SUCKERS. They choose to believe the "hope" and "change we can believein in" pabulum rather than to examine a candidate's Bush-accomplice voting record. Why did anyone think this Bush-accomplice millionaire would do anything differently than what his voting record showed? DUH. What stupid-assed people.
Funny thing is, you idiots are still blaming Bush.
You won. That means you get to "own" this administration's policies.
HAHAHALOLOLHAHA
Libertarians are better friends of homosexual's than Democrats. Unite or we will keep casting our vote for the lesser evil.
His appointment of all the Clinton cabinet was a sign..... (with exception of Vince Foster ; (
(and the damn third party candidates ought to unite they have Soooo much in common)
[...] WOMEN, PROGRESSIVES HARDEST HIT [...]
Oh Bushbama... Has the policy shifted so far right that you can't stop???
And what the hell is "Faith Based" doing in any position appoint by anyone in the Government - Did I miss Bush or Bushbama getting rid of the whole separation of Church and state???
here's my opinion
I believe many are erroneously of the opinion that being liberal means one must me be pro-gay and pro-choice.
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Well, these days people call themselves anything whethey they are that or not.
I have a Repug relative who claims to be "socially liberal." She's NOT. It's just something she says because she thinks it sounds good when she's around me.
To many people who claim to be a liberal, all it means to them is voting for anyone with a big D behind their name and MAYBE doing a tad bit of recycling every now and then. That's the extent of what being a "liberal" means to them.
It's really meaningless the way many people use the word "liberal" these days.
To help the poor, to provide universal health care, to guarantee a decent education, etc. are all great goals that every decent human being should aspire to achieve. They don't go hand in hand with pushing a pro-gay and pro-choice agenda. Liberalism has to be redefined and I hope President Obama will be the vehicle of this much needed change.
This just cracks me up...You libs are so f**king stupid it just slays me. Ya'll got what you voted for, eat it.
Sam
I agree. These labels (conservative, liberal, libertarian, etc.) have become devoid of any meaning. I personally define a person by what he stands for not by whatever label we attach to him or her. In this case, I am all for President Obama's choice because it is morally right.
You write: "Kelley's appointment appears yet more salient in lieu of the fact that President Obama has expanded the faith-based project ..."
In "lieu" of means instead of. I think you meant to say in "light" of.
I am noticing a shift in both parties' positions. The GOP is moving left on social issues. The other day I watched McCain's daughter on the Colbert Report say she was a pro-sex republican. No one should be surprised if the Democratic party will come to be perceived as the party of family values and the GOP as the party of decadence.
here's my opinion
"No one should be surprised if the Democratic party will come to be perceived as the party of family values and the GOP as the party of decadence."
I am glad someone out there thinks like me. I tell you something else: The neocons destroyed the Republican party. Any party getting their news from gay Matt Drudge is doomed to become decadent.
More war, more torture, more lies and more right wing Christian extremism.
I think the comments here reflect what progressives all over the US are thinking. This President is a lying piece of crap. Some are surprised and some saw it coming, but either way the cat is out of the bag. It is distressing and depressing, but reality can not be denied.
Unless of course you follow this story at Huffypost where they are in full damage control mode 24/7 to keep the few remaining Obama sheep in the dark. Their resident trolls using multiple screen names, posting hundreds of comments would give the casual observer the impression that Obama still has his halo, and all is well with the world. I had three of four comments censored there for saying Bushbama was the ultimate hypocrite. If there is anything more hypocritical than Huffington, I have not seen it.
here's my opinion
Liberalism has to be redefined and I hope President Obama will be the vehicle of this much needed change.
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I don't know how messiah Obushma could be the vehicle to redefine "liberalism" when he is NOT a liberal or a progressive and has never claimed to be either.
(See his Bush-accomplice record from the senate).
His disciples (also known as the Obamabots) projected "liberal" things onto him. That's how he got some sort of phony image of being a "liberal." He's not.
Also, to many people being a Dem equals liberal. That could not be farther from the truth or the reality.
Most of the so-called "Dems" in congress are not liberals. Some pretend to be while they help shred the US Constitution. If they were true liberals, they wouldn't have helped the rabid, regressive, anti-US Constitution, dictatorial, pro-war, pro-corporate, pro-Pentagon, anti-average person, anti-human rights Bush illegitimate for 8 years.
If liberalism needs to be redefined, it seems to me that a true/real liberal should be the person to do that. Not Obushma. He could redefine how to be a Bush-accomplice and how to shred the US Constitution and how to expand war and war occupations, how to say one thing and do the opposite, as some examples.
Looks like an error in paragraph four: "Kelley's appointment appears yet more salient in lieu of the fact that President Obama has expanded.... "
Maybe you meant to type "...in view of the fact..."
"in lieu of" means "instead of"
What the f**k is "faith based health" and why would you need someone to head it up? Shouldn't a quick prayer do the trick?
hmotes
What the f**k is "faith based health" and why would you need someone to head it up? Shouldn't a quick prayer do the trick?
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There shouldn't even be a need for a quick prayer considering the Floating Cloud Being is supposedly "all powerful, all-knowing, omnipotent" and all that other "all" nonsense that's attributed to the dude. Since "he" is "all-knowing," "he" already knows what anyone is going to pray...so why bother? And if "he" is "omnipotent" and "all-powerful" why the hell isn't this dude keeping people well in the first place? He likes to see people sick and suffer? That's one sick-assed dude.
Most of you seem to be missing a key fact in an angry haze: Alexia Kelley is a Christian leading a Christian group that is upholding Christian beliefs on a consistent basis. Under those circumstances, she is perfectly qualified for a faith-based position.
If you are objecting to her because you disagree with her beliefs, just say so. Otherwise, you really have no basis or reason for bashing her like this.
WTF? We have a marriage between religion and the government with the faith-based policy office, and we have a marriage between government and big business... everywhere else. So what do we have in total? An emerging christofascist state.
Once again, Welcome to the 21st Century.
Why do they have a faith based in the first place in the federal govt.. There should be a seperation of church and state, period. They mission creeped that position into the govt. years ago during bush era. I remember when Bush was pushing faith based this and that and he had a whole plethora of religious groups at a signing. They where smiling and happy to be chosen, but what people don't understand is that every religion believes there interpretation of events are right and everybody else is wrong. They believe there particular faction will win over all, thats why they like the faith based govt. stuff, because they believe they will win in the end and everybody else will lose and be converted to their belief. It's delusional thinking to have a position in the govt. that will take faith based anything in account when making decisions or helping to craft decisions. The puritans where running from europe persecution to the Americas and on and on. You have to divide church and state, because if not one tribe or sect my control all or part of the govt. and they may not want the govt. to pursue some law or action because of their belief and if another religious group is in control of the rest, you could lead a country into gridlock and/or fighting over the govt. due to religion.
Also I see a made up issue with Sotomajor in regard to the latina woman making better choices than a white male. Everybody is saying she's a racists and such, but during this whole frackas have you heard anything about her abortion record or belief. No republican has commented on that, no media has touched on that. I believe that she is pro-life like Obama and as one poster put it Obama will be residing when the supreme court overturns Roe vs. Wade. Why do you think that he is going full bore to get so much done this year. It's because there are going to be alot of negative things that will happen that will require him to be the badguy and abortion is one and the economy is another.
Thomas B
Most are not even bothering to discuss the lost little sheep named Alexia.
She does what her masters tell her to do........in this case taking the US back to the dark days of back alley abortions for the poor, and quiet safe expensive abortions for rich young women.
If you re read the comments here, most are upset that the so called progressive Obama continues on with funding the American Taliban using the Bush brain child, the faith based initiatives office.
Obama expanded its mandate, its space and its budget.
Obama was not elected by flat earth creationist fools as they are the domain of Republicans. That he courts them is the outrage, and that his greedy dwindling mass of kool aid chugging fools forgives this is worse.
Alexia is not the story.
Thomas B.,
There should be no "faith based" so-called "christian" bunk/nonsense in the federal government. Period. I think that's what you're missing in your haze. That's Bushshit agenda and messiah Obushma is continuing it, while he spewed "change we can believe in" during the campaign.
And so-called "christians" can pick and choose from anything in that damn bible to suit their rabid regressive agenda. Many will claim to be "anti-abortion." Well, if you're anti-abortion then don't have one fool. But let others choose what they want to do with THEIR bodies. Also with the so-called "christians" nuts, they will claim to be opposed to abortion because it takes a life, they say. Then out of the other side of their hypocritical mouths, they are all for war, death and killing. What part of THOU SHALT NOT KILL do these goddamned "christian" fools not understand?
There should be no "faith-based" shit in government, regardless of how so-called "qualified" some religious nut is for the position.
But, but but HILLARY is evil! She will be a Dino, who will TRIANGULATE! We NEED a real progressive OBAAAAMA! Yeah, right.
Ah, first time voters are really getting an education in politics now, huh?
You are so right SAM, they speak out of both sides of their mouths on the abortion issue. My on complaint about them is that a large section of the non-zealot anti-abortionists will allow abortions in case of rape or incest. The problem with that is it goes 180 against what they wanted abortion for in the first place. They said it was to save the babies from being killed but even a child born from rape or incest has just as much a right to life also. They want abortion but on THEIR terms, but they don't want it on anybody elses.
Jimtoday
Ah, first time voters are really getting an education in politics now, huh?
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IF they are still paying attention and that's doubtful. Many people who voted for messiah Obushma have gone back to sleep until 2012. They live under the illusion that because he has a D behind his name, they don't have to pay attention to what he does because it will all be fine. LOL. I've talked with some people like that recently. I could tell that they didn't have a clue what Obushma's doing. Either that or they are still making excuses for him as one person did to me the other day when they told me, "his hands are tied." Sigh. I let it drop but I felt like saying: BY WHOM? His pathetic Bush-accomplice party has damn-near a super-majority in congress and they have the White House. So who are his hands tied by? DUH. Stop making excuses for a millionaire politician. His hands aren't tied by anybody. HE chose who he wanted to surround himself with and Dennis Kucinich (as one example) was not one of them! His first choice, Rahm Emanuel, should have been a clear signal to anyone with an operative brain. It was to some, but many began making Obamabot excuses, justifications, defenses and that whole routine to grasp at defending an indefensible politician.
[...] for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships at the Department of Health and Human Services. Source. This sucks. She heads the Catholics Alliance for the Common Good, a needling organization that [...]
"I'm glad I voted for Cynthis MCKinney... she was the only one with integrity. "
I've never read anything so pathetic in my life.
How's that "Hope and Change" working out?
OBAMA VOTERS = RUBES
The folks who realized that a "faith based" anything within the Government
of the United States is nonsense. Otherwise as stated the American taliban
will continue to kill the "non-believer" and fund the irrational campaigns of
the person's who in concert make our laws. Terrifing isn't it!
However the optimus hopes that appeasing to just enough republicans will
allow Obama to become more progressive in general awhile being a lame
duck in 2012 if he wins again.
Again stated that it will be a long time for another brother to be President
if this one starts drinkin the be a retard kool-aid that the gop has served
up since 1964.
Yes Obama is a politician first and a human being second, however he has
more class in his crusty-pinkie toe than the bush crime family have in the
whole kit n kaboodle ever in their pitiful lives!
cyberjazz
However the optimus hopes that appeasing to just enough republicans will
allow Obama to become more progressive in general awhile being a lame
duck in 2012 if he wins again.
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....will allow Obushma to become more progressive? LOL. Dream on. Have another shot of that intoxicating partisan Dem kool-aid. I've been hearing wishful-thinking delusional stuff like this ever since 2000 and NONE of it has ever happened. The last time was after the 2006 "election," where the Dems were supposedly going to stop serving as accomplices to war criminal Bush. They didn't.
As for this stuff:
"Yes Obama is a politician first and a human being second, however he has
more class in his crusty-pinkie toe than the bush crime family have in the
whole kit n kaboodle ever in their pitiful lives!"
All you care about is some shallow/superficial "class?" If he had "more class" he wouldn't be continuing the Bush Crime Family's agenda. He would be reinstating, upholding, defending and protecting the US Constitution, and not continuing to shred it.
Quick question for you all:
Which political philosophy is most compatible with restrictions on individual rights (like, oh, say, restrictions on abortion and marriage) and restrictions on economic freedom (heavy business regulations, ownership of private business (like, say GM and Chrysler))?
It isn't modern-day liberalism -- gay marriage and abortion are its two significant planks.
It isn't modern-day conservatism -- government ownership of major corporations is a no-no.
The answer, dear reader, is modern-day fascism. Statism. Authoritarianism.
Barack Obama is the "cool" face of fascism.
Elections have consequences. Enjoy this shit sandwich for the next 3 and a half years.
"Yes Obama is a politician first and a human being second, however he has
more class in his crusty-pinkie toe than the bush crime family have in the
whole kit n kaboodle ever in their pitiful lives!"
That's because as a true modern-day lib, you are supremely capable of complete and total denial of evidence which contradicts the mental fantasy you have constructed.
Class? Mr. Scratch-His-Middle-Finger-On-His-Face? Mr. "99 Problems But A Bitch ain't One"? Mr. "Lipstick On a Pig"? Mr. Let's-Give-The-PM-A-Gift-Of-Region I-DVDs?
And these are not exhaustive by any means, if you open your eyes and see what is, instead of spinning, excusing or denying it away.
Barack Obama couldn't spell "class", let alone possess it. His classlessness under pressure is one of his most obvious personality traits.
Wishful thinking can destroy the world. Face reality, dear readers.
JB wrote:
"Elections have consequences. Enjoy this shit sandwich for the next 3 and a half years."
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Make that 8 years instead of 3.5 years. In 2012, the Obamabots will come out of their coma (that they've been in since 2008) and they will whine:
"I haven't always agreed with Obama and Obama may not be perrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfect, but he's better than the Repug candidate (or I want to be he is) and so I'm voting for Obama again. Go Obama, gooooooooooooo!"
Yes, that's what the damn fools will say. They will repeat the entire exercise all over again. They don't seem to learn.
If most people who voted chose a credible third party candidate (Nader or McKinney were the credible candidates in 2008) and if the election were legitimate, either one of them would be president in 2012. If the third party candidate you want is not on your ballot, WRITE IT IN WITH INK. I realize this is not very realistic because most people have been programmed from an early age to vote either D or R and can't possibly conceive of doing anything but that routine...which has led us to the current RUT we are cemented in.
But I'll give it a try and suggest:
VOTE "THIRD PARTY" IN 2012.
Krueger, what planet have you been living on the past 8 years?--ALL Bush marriages are miserable because all the men are adulterous PEDOPHILES! I work in DC at a conservative publication, so I've met many people who know the Bushes. A coworker used to work in Bush Sr.'s press office when he was the VP. That coworker confirmed what my former neighbor told me--that Sr. was banging his blond thirty-something military attache. Sr. also patronized the notorious Franklin S&L boy and girl prostitution blackmail ring. My ex boyfriend bragged about running into Neil Bush at a Bangkok child brothel in 1993. Neil admitted in his divorce deposition getting STDs from Asian hookers. Bush Jr. has been outed for affairs with BOTH sexes. Catholic Forced Birther for Pedophile Priests/Munchausen by Proxy MOTHER-KILLER Alexia Kelley will be disasterous because she opposes all contraception and sterilization as well, and YOU HAVE THE SELFISH, SELFISH NAZI NERVE TO OPPOSE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR HER VICTIMS. Kelley probably supports the barbaric equivalent of female castration during childbirth (symphysiotomy--slicing pelvic bones as a forced large family alternative to small family-limiting c-sections) to "punish women's naughty parts". This procedure leaves many women with permanent pain, incontinence and lameness and has finally been banned in the pedophile priest-ridden Ireland. I hope Obama gives her no authority and is only dangling her as kevlar window dressing to avoid Dr. Tiller's fate.
Why in hell does the US government have a "faith-based office" of anything?
Fuck religion. All religion. And especially any religion pushed by the government.
As one who prefers reason to faith, I'm not particularly happy that our politics have degenerated to the point that the government has to have "faith based initiatives".
However, from a political perspective, its fairly easy to see what Obama and his team are up to. If he can peel of say 2-3% of the female christian conservative vote, the republicans don't have a chance. Doing this lowers the temperature of the friction between competing forces grating against one another day after day. Abe Lincoln used to do the same thing, by granting lots of pardons to confederates during the latter stages of the Civil War, when he knew it was only a matter of time before the confederacy would be defeated. It is a way of lulling the opposition, biding time and reserving strength for the most important battles.
The republicans on the other hand seem to be eager to pour gasoline on their own self-immolation. Perhaps its best to hand them a match whenever they need one.
Obama likes the window dressing. And there doesn't seem to be a shortage of idiots and panderers to the office of the Presidency.
holy fuck...he is naive...isnt he
they still hate you barack
they hate everything you stand for
stop trying to include them
shut them out of the process
they are toast
Another "uncle tom" choice. Let's just give up on the abortion issue, I have stock in the coat hanger market and I need to hedge my losses from Star Bucks.
Why shouldn't I hate the idiot whose $3T budget (and $2T deficient) will lead the US into an extended period of hyperinflationary decline? Spending = Stimulus according to that smartass.
Heil Mary sure has some sick *ss fantasies about Bushes! Maybe she ought to go crawl back up in one and get some treatment while she's at it. She sure loves to babble on about pedophilia and tearing up women's genitals. Yikes!
Why is my tax money paying salaries to these demented thugs?
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Whole Murray, you sure are IGNORANT about the adulterous Bush crime family and women's health. Do you know the Bushes?? I work and live near the Bush crowd. Childbirth made my mother incontinent and she was ordered by a playboy Baltimore priest to burn all my skin off when I was in first grade as her marital abstinence only excuse. I used to be a rabid anti-choicer until I got fed up with my family's unending abuse and started researching what childbirth really does to women, why their disgusted husbands cheat on and divorce them and why the PEDOPHILE Vatican torched 9 MILLION MOTHERS during the witch craze. I wish my mother had aborted me instead and I bring up childbirth's legion of grisly dangers because of the selfish antichoice goons who hang out here. Google obstetric fistula to get a clue. I didn't invent these dangers--God did, so don't call me sick. God also gave women a million options, like 450 ABORTIFACIENT PLANTS like coffee and alcohol. I'm trying to prevent new people from being victims. Randall Terry dumped his first wife because of childbirth injuries, and yet no one but me ever brings this up. MSM should grill him about his cowardly betrayals of his own family members.
Herr Kroeger's cassock is once again slipping and his pillowcase is showing. Pretty soon he'll be measured for a white cassock so he won't have to change clothes when he goes to meetings.
Speaking as one of the right-wingers, it's not like we're happy with Geithner.
IT WAS A DELUSION WASN't IT? GREAT SPEECHES DON'T TRANSLATE INTO GREAT ACTIONS. Here is a great speech maker who doesn't seem to mean
much of what he says! Does this translate into anything meaningful? Or is
it all a gesture for the credulous who would like to believe that his eloquence means something. Where do we go now - or is the human race really a
failure?
Money Trail: Obama's Army Pick "Played the Game"
In Congress, McHugh Took Thousands from Special Interests,
Inserted Millions in Earmarks
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=7760031&page=1
The "faith-based" jve is NEARLY nothing: The CHANGEling's (NY Republican) "pick for Army Secretary has taken hundreds of thousands of dollars from defense firms and lobbyists, including some connected to a firm under investigation for alleged campaign finance fraud.
"McHugh also steered $640,000 to an unspecified program operated by the Ft. Drum Regional Health Planning Organization. A private health firm, Health Net Federal Services, provides medical services at Ft. Drum, and is a member of the planning organization. Its employees and political action committee have donated more than $40,000 to McHugh. The firm employed PMA Group until the company disbanded following news of an FBI raid on its offices last November. "
The enduring pain of the 'Catholic position'
OPINION/Medb Ruane
Rose Magee was 17 years old when she went into labour in 1963. Her pains lasted 56 hours. Normal practice elsewhere was to perform a Caesarean section, lest mother or baby die. But Rose was Irish, poor and unmarried, writes Medb Ruane.
Her doctors did a different procedure which, deliberately or otherwise, ensured that she could not be sterilised in the future.
All Rose could think of was what her ma would say when she saw the baby was black, but the baby's skin colour had nothing to do with race and all to do with the length of delivery. As it was, she was lucky her baby survived, and she kept her daughter, defying the mores of the time. She had nine more children.
Rose had to teach herself to walk again after the birth and still needs to lean against a wall after a few minutes on her feet. She had thought this was her fault, along with her unbearable backache, frequent incontinence and sense of shame. She's worn sanitary towels every day of her life and takes strong painkillers.
So, too, do many women who went through the same operation. Others are dead.
The practice Rose endured is called symphysiotomy, which involves sawing through the pelvis to open it up like an oyster shell. Non-Roman Catholic countries used it only in exceptional cases, but in Latin America and Ireland, some doctors practised it as a way of avoiding Caesarean sections, which they thought might encourage women to use contraception or request sterilisation.
Jacqueline Morrissey exposed it in this paper in September 1999. My own researches into the politics of medicine in the 1930s had made me wonder what might have happened by the 1950s, and I had knocked on Jackie's door, knowing she was completing a thesis on maternity care. Jackie received letters from women all over the country who thought they were alone until they read her article. No one had asked their permission, or told them what to expect.
In May 2001, John Gormley TD brought the matter to the Dáil's attention, on behalf of his constituent Mrs Matilda Behan. Micheál Martin invited comments from the Institute of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. Their reply consists of a one-page letter from Dr John Bonnar, along with a 1959 article written by Prof John Cunningham, a former Master of Holles Street and UCD professor. He defends the practice, with Dr Bonnar adding that it lasted until 1960 and that, in properly-conducted cases, complications were rare.
Phone calls and letters to campaigning Examiner journalist Carl O'Brien suggest complications were more frequent than the institute may realise. Far from being confined usually to "emergency admissions with obstructed labour where sepsis following Caesarean section would have carried a risk of death", as Dr Bonnar wrote to the Department of Health, some cases happened before the woman entered labour. Mrs Behan's symphysiotomy was carried out a fortnight before she gave birth. And, as Morrissey's research shows, the procedure resulted in some cases with the baby's death.
"In Roman Catholic countries, efforts to perfect the operation have been sustained," says Prof Cunningham's 1959 article, which Dr Bonnar supplied to the Minister on behalf of the Institute of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. "Contraception and sterilisation are not countenanced by those who subscribe to Catholic rule."
Prof Chassar Moir of Oxford was among many doctors who tried to draw medical attention to this Irish practice, which was theologically justified on the grounds of double effect. "Is it then your policy to sacrifice the first-born baby and to use its dead or dying body as nothing more than a battering ram to stretch its mother's pelvis in the hope that subsequent brothers and sisters may thereby have [possibly\] an easier entrance into this world?" he asked Irish doctors.
The procedures began to end when the new Master of Holles Street, Dr O'Driscoll, measured scientifically the incidence of "disproportion", one of the conditions used to justify symphysiotomy. Of 1,506 first births delivered in the NMH in 1966, "disproportion" was diagnosed four times and none was suitable for symphysiotomy. He concluded that disproportion was a rare complication in Ireland - "a mote in the eye of the obstetrician". He did not go on to say that the "mote" arose from the ethos identified in the 1930s as "the Catholic position" in Irish medicine.
The Catholic position persists among some members of the Irish institute. In 1996, Prof Eamon O'Dwyer wrote that natural family planning is both "non-invasive \ unlike hormonal contraception - oral or otherwise - it is completely safe". Its reliability is another matter. Like the women of Positive Action, the Irish survivors of symphysiotomy are beginning to organise. Women from Dublin, Cork and Louth are trying to raise funds and find a place to hold their first national meeting. Positive Action and John Gormley TD have offered advice.
Given what we now know about Ireland's relative isolation in performing such procedures, can Micheál Martin fob them off with a one-page response from the institute suggesting that they were no more than creatures of their time? An independent report is surely required, lest they be treated with the callousness meted out to Hepatitis victims. For Rose, Matilda and others, tears are still part of their pain.
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/opi...OP22RUANE.html
The above came from the blog, magicbastarder.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Anybody who voted for Yomama is an idiot and gets just what they deserve. Why don't all you whining liberals get together like a pack of lemmings and run off a cliff somewhere? They would be fun to watch.
Put me in a box
and sit on top
don't let me out
shout out to the world
what I am
exclude me, include you
in a perfect world
Where Lord Obama is God.
::sigh::
Progressives could have had Nader, (and the GOP, Paul) and instead chose another big business, big war, establishment neocon.
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2004/jun/21/00006/
Obama = More of the Same spending, borrowing and printing, wars, filthy corporatism, trillions in banksta bailouts on the taxpayers' dime, executive power grabs, and attacks on our Constitutional rights.
Wake up, America! It's a one-party state and they keep us divided with these red meat social issues that the Fascist War Party has no intention of doing anything about.
MacGhil:
oh brother
Why the "filthy corporatism" Mac? What'd they ever do to you? I could tell you what they do for you but I have a feeling you'd have your "World View Filter" on.
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Jim Spence...
I can't believe that I missed your point, I will have to do some research on this....