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	<title>Comments on: Conservative radio host, popular onetime Hannity guest, charged with inciting violence</title>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
		<link>http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/06/conservative-radio-host-cinciting-violence/comment-page-4/#comment-12071</link>
		<dc:creator>GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kathy

Sure, right-wingers go all 'rule-of-law' and constitutionally when their own agenda is threatened. Otherwise, not so much.</description>
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<p>Sure, right-wingers go all 'rule-of-law' and constitutionally when their own agenda is threatened. Otherwise, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
		<link>http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/06/conservative-radio-host-cinciting-violence/comment-page-4/#comment-11845</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy:  Those evil gays and their evil gay rights agenda ... Lay off the crack, nitwit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy:  Those evil gays and their evil gay rights agenda ... Lay off the crack, nitwit.</p>
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		<title>By: Guess Who</title>
		<link>http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/06/conservative-radio-host-cinciting-violence/comment-page-4/#comment-11765</link>
		<dc:creator>Guess Who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On June 3, 2009 Turner, writing on his blog from his home in New Jersey, referred to certain actions by Connecticut officials as "tyrannical" and opined that Connecticut citizens should "take up arms to put down this tyranny."  

Even though no one actually did that, Connecticut issued a "Fugitive from Justice" Warrant for Turner's arrest anyway!  Turner was arrested in his home town in New Jersey and held -- without bail, as a "fugitive" - for almost a full week until a New Jersey Judge realized Turner had never actually fled justice and was not a fugitive at all.  The Judge ordered that Turner be released on bail.

Turner says Connecticut doesn't have a legal leg to stand on and cites U.S. Supreme Court case law to back-up his confident assertion.

Read about those cases at the First Amendment Center web site at the link below and pay particular attention to the case "Hess v. Indiana" which fits the Turner case in Connecticut almost perfectly.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=21677

There is MAJOR danger that affects YOU with this case:  The Connecticut courts may choose to ignore federal case law and proceed with a trial anyway.  The Jury may choose to convict.  Turner could then be jailed pending appeals.  The first Appeal would have to go to the Connecticut State Court of Appeals and that would mean Turner would sit in prison for months until that court ruled.  The Appeals Court might choose to ignore the federal case law too and uphold the conviction.  The next appeal would then be to the Connecticut State Supreme Court and would mean Turner would remain jailed for many more months waiting for that court to rule.  The State Supreme Court may choose to ignore federal case law too, which would then finally allow the case to go to the Federal Courts where the law is on Turner's side.  But as all of this is happening, Turner will find himself jailed literally for YEARS, waiting to win under the clearly established federal case law.

Imagine the impact on your life if this happened to you.  Being jailed without bail, being forced to spend tens of thousands of legal fees, facing years in jail. . . . . . all for something you wrote on the internet!

The case of "Connecticut v. Turner"  puts EVERY user of the internet at severe risk. Turner is not a citizen of Connecticut and he was not in Connecticut when he published his opinions on his blog.  Yet Connecticut is forcibly applying its laws upon Turner!

If Connecticut can apply its law to a citizen of New Jersey and jail that citizen over words published outside the jurisdiction of Connecticut, then ANY state can apply its laws to ANY blogger, web site owner, MySpace, FaceBook, Twitter or even YouTube user!

How would this affect you?  Simple: People you never met, in places you've never been, can take offense to something you write on the Internet and have you jailed in THEIR state for it!  Do you see the risk now?  Do you understand how important this case is going to be?

It is absolutely essential for anyone who publishes anything on the net, to support Hal Turner in this Landmark legal battle.  The freedom of speech for ALL net users is literally at stake.

That's why Hal Turner needs our help.   Since his arrest on June 3, Turner has had to pay over ten thousand five hundred dollars for two separate Bail Bonds - one in New Jersey ($2500 paid for bond of $25,000) and another in Connecticut ($2500 for another bond of $25,000) plus another $3500 for a lawyer in New Jersey and another $2000 for a lawyer in Connecticut!   These legal fees cover only pre-trial legal work and DO NOT cover going to Trial.  The expenses of going to trial will be triple or quadruple the initial amounts and, if Connecticut Courts ignore case law (which they can do) the appeals process will cost tens of thousands more.

If Connecticut is able to grind Turner into financial oblivion to get him to plead-out, then the precedent for applying their laws to bloggers OUTSIDE of their state would be set -- and ALL of our freedom of speech will be in immediate jeopardy.

That's why it is so important to help with a contribution right now.  This case will be as important to freedom as the Miranda case which gave us the "Miranda Warning" 40 years ago. 

We cannot afford to sit this one out and see what happens.  Get involved.  Copy and re-post this article on forums and blogs everywhere. If you can't get involved personally, send a few bucks.  It is literally YOUR OWN freedom of speech that you'll be protecting.  Please mail whatever you can in cash, check or money order to:

Hal Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Road
North Bergen, NJ   07047-1900
USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On June 3, 2009 Turner, writing on his blog from his home in New Jersey, referred to certain actions by Connecticut officials as "tyrannical" and opined that Connecticut citizens should "take up arms to put down this tyranny."  </p>
<p>Even though no one actually did that, Connecticut issued a "Fugitive from Justice" Warrant for Turner's arrest anyway!  Turner was arrested in his home town in New Jersey and held -- without bail, as a "fugitive" - for almost a full week until a New Jersey Judge realized Turner had never actually fled justice and was not a fugitive at all.  The Judge ordered that Turner be released on bail.</p>
<p>Turner says Connecticut doesn't have a legal leg to stand on and cites U.S. Supreme Court case law to back-up his confident assertion.</p>
<p>Read about those cases at the First Amendment Center web site at the link below and pay particular attention to the case "Hess v. Indiana" which fits the Turner case in Connecticut almost perfectly.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=21677" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=21677</a></p>
<p>There is MAJOR danger that affects YOU with this case:  The Connecticut courts may choose to ignore federal case law and proceed with a trial anyway.  The Jury may choose to convict.  Turner could then be jailed pending appeals.  The first Appeal would have to go to the Connecticut State Court of Appeals and that would mean Turner would sit in prison for months until that court ruled.  The Appeals Court might choose to ignore the federal case law too and uphold the conviction.  The next appeal would then be to the Connecticut State Supreme Court and would mean Turner would remain jailed for many more months waiting for that court to rule.  The State Supreme Court may choose to ignore federal case law too, which would then finally allow the case to go to the Federal Courts where the law is on Turner's side.  But as all of this is happening, Turner will find himself jailed literally for YEARS, waiting to win under the clearly established federal case law.</p>
<p>Imagine the impact on your life if this happened to you.  Being jailed without bail, being forced to spend tens of thousands of legal fees, facing years in jail. . . . . . all for something you wrote on the internet!</p>
<p>The case of "Connecticut v. Turner"  puts EVERY user of the internet at severe risk. Turner is not a citizen of Connecticut and he was not in Connecticut when he published his opinions on his blog.  Yet Connecticut is forcibly applying its laws upon Turner!</p>
<p>If Connecticut can apply its law to a citizen of New Jersey and jail that citizen over words published outside the jurisdiction of Connecticut, then ANY state can apply its laws to ANY blogger, web site owner, MySpace, FaceBook, Twitter or even YouTube user!</p>
<p>How would this affect you?  Simple: People you never met, in places you've never been, can take offense to something you write on the Internet and have you jailed in THEIR state for it!  Do you see the risk now?  Do you understand how important this case is going to be?</p>
<p>It is absolutely essential for anyone who publishes anything on the net, to support Hal Turner in this Landmark legal battle.  The freedom of speech for ALL net users is literally at stake.</p>
<p>That's why Hal Turner needs our help.   Since his arrest on June 3, Turner has had to pay over ten thousand five hundred dollars for two separate Bail Bonds - one in New Jersey ($2500 paid for bond of $25,000) and another in Connecticut ($2500 for another bond of $25,000) plus another $3500 for a lawyer in New Jersey and another $2000 for a lawyer in Connecticut!   These legal fees cover only pre-trial legal work and DO NOT cover going to Trial.  The expenses of going to trial will be triple or quadruple the initial amounts and, if Connecticut Courts ignore case law (which they can do) the appeals process will cost tens of thousands more.</p>
<p>If Connecticut is able to grind Turner into financial oblivion to get him to plead-out, then the precedent for applying their laws to bloggers OUTSIDE of their state would be set -- and ALL of our freedom of speech will be in immediate jeopardy.</p>
<p>That's why it is so important to help with a contribution right now.  This case will be as important to freedom as the Miranda case which gave us the "Miranda Warning" 40 years ago. </p>
<p>We cannot afford to sit this one out and see what happens.  Get involved.  Copy and re-post this article on forums and blogs everywhere. If you can't get involved personally, send a few bucks.  It is literally YOUR OWN freedom of speech that you'll be protecting.  Please mail whatever you can in cash, check or money order to:</p>
<p>Hal Turner<br />
1906 Paterson Plank Road<br />
North Bergen, NJ   07047-1900<br />
USA</p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
		<link>http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/06/conservative-radio-host-cinciting-violence/comment-page-4/#comment-11753</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line is:
Hal's site never said " I WANT YOU TO DO "  OR   " I AM GOING TO DO THIS"
These (2)  Lawlor and McDonald are OPEN GAYS.  They arrested Timothy Kane and now Hal Turner. How many, many years have United States Citizens been speaking up about different issues. Strongle speeking.
Now, all of a sudden, Gays are in a powerful position and it will, and mark my words, become a Gay Rights thing.
They are misusing their power of office to fulfill their own agenda. Gay Rights.
If Timothy Kane and Hal Turner can get arested for their views, you can also.
This is a Freedom of Speech issue, nothing else.
As far as the second amendment, well, it is the 2nd amendment. and since when does a person get arrested for quoting the 2nd amendment?
How many more of the rights of the people of the united states are going to be violated under the guise of the law.
give me a break, you may not agree with Hals views, and that is your right, but if these lawmakers are going to get away with this, you won't even have the right to agree or disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line is:<br />
Hal's site never said " I WANT YOU TO DO "  OR   " I AM GOING TO DO THIS"<br />
These (2)  Lawlor and McDonald are OPEN GAYS.  They arrested Timothy Kane and now Hal Turner. How many, many years have United States Citizens been speaking up about different issues. Strongle speeking.<br />
Now, all of a sudden, Gays are in a powerful position and it will, and mark my words, become a Gay Rights thing.<br />
They are misusing their power of office to fulfill their own agenda. Gay Rights.<br />
If Timothy Kane and Hal Turner can get arested for their views, you can also.<br />
This is a Freedom of Speech issue, nothing else.<br />
As far as the second amendment, well, it is the 2nd amendment. and since when does a person get arrested for quoting the 2nd amendment?<br />
How many more of the rights of the people of the united states are going to be violated under the guise of the law.<br />
give me a break, you may not agree with Hals views, and that is your right, but if these lawmakers are going to get away with this, you won't even have the right to agree or disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Hannity Associate And Neo Nazi Hal Turner Has Troubles &#171; The Gholston Post</title>
		<link>http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/06/conservative-radio-host-cinciting-violence/comment-page-4/#comment-11115</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Hannity Associate And Neo Nazi Hal Turner Has Troubles &#171; The Gholston Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] regarding the church,&#8221; independent news outlet Raw Story&#8217;s John Byrne (6/4/09) deepens the story by recalling that &#8220;Turner used to be a regular on Sean Hannity&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] regarding the church,&#8221; independent news outlet Raw Story&#8217;s John Byrne (6/4/09) deepens the story by recalling that &#8220;Turner used to be a regular on Sean Hannity&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM 

No problem ... that bohunk is one of those angry, white trash folks, better known as 'crackers.'  Bet the bastard had a blast at one of the 'teabagger' parties.

Such an angry white man ... LMAO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM </p>
<p>No problem ... that bohunk is one of those angry, white trash folks, better known as 'crackers.'  Bet the bastard had a blast at one of the 'teabagger' parties.</p>
<p>Such an angry white man ... LMAO</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
		<link>http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/06/conservative-radio-host-cinciting-violence/comment-page-4/#comment-10455</link>
		<dc:creator>GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>betterheadthanfred

I see jizz has a capital J in your world. Evidently it is a significant staple in your diet. Is it really fattening or is that just a myth?
Cause you don't look so slender in that grease-stained wife-beater.

I know, I know....I LOVE MY WIFE, I HAVE NEVER BEEN GAY....'
Not so loud, betterheadthanfred</description>
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<p>I see jizz has a capital J in your world. Evidently it is a significant staple in your diet. Is it really fattening or is that just a myth?<br />
Cause you don't look so slender in that grease-stained wife-beater.</p>
<p>I know, I know....I LOVE MY WIFE, I HAVE NEVER BEEN GAY....'<br />
Not so loud, betterheadthanfred</p>
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