Revealed: Ashcroft, Tenet, Rumsfeld warned 9/11 Commission about ‘line’ it ’should not cross’

By Sahil Kapur
Wednesday, March 17th, 2010 -- 9:11 am
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911twintowersterrorismairpl Revealed: Ashcroft, Tenet, Rumsfeld warned 9/11 Commission about line it should not crossSenior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, according to a document recently obtained by the ACLU.

The notification came in a letter dated January 6, 2004, addressed by Attorney General John Ashcroft, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and CIA Director George J. Tenet. The ACLU described it as a fax sent by David Addington, then-counsel to former vice president Dick Cheney.

In the message, the officials denied the bipartisan commission's request to question terrorist detainees, informing its two senior-most members that doing so would "cross" a "line" and obstruct the administration's ability to protect the nation.

"In response to the Commission's expansive requests for access to secrets, the executive branch has provided such access in full cooperation," the letter read. "There is, however, a line that the Commission should not cross -- the line separating the Commission's proper inquiry into the September 11, 2001 attacks from interference with the Government's ability to safeguard the national security, including protection of Americans from future terrorist attacks."

The 9/11 Commission, officially called the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, was formed by President Bush in November of 2002 "to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks" and to offer recommendations for preventing future attacks.

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"The Commission staff's proposed participation in questioning of detainees would cross that line," the letter continued. "As the officers of the United States responsible for the law enforcement, defense and intelligence functions of the Government, we urge your Commission not to further pursue the proposed request to participate in the questioning of detainees."

FireDogLake's Marcy Wheeler speculates that this was an attempt by the Bush administration to ensure that its torture of certain detainees, which has since been widely documented, remained secret.

"[W]hoever made these annotations appears to have been most worried that Commission staff members could make independent judgments about the detainees and the interrogations," Wheeler wrote on her blog. The official "didn't want anyone to independently evaluate the interrogations conducted in the torture program."

Eventually, the commission's co-chairs harshly criticized the administration for having purportedly "destroyed" tapes of its interrogations with terror suspects, as Raw Story reported last year.

9/11 Commission members Thomas Kean and Lee H. Hamilton wrote that although US President George W. Bush had ordered all executive branch agencies to cooperate with the probe, "recent revelations that the CIA destroyed videotaped interrogations of Qaeda operatives leads us to conclude that the agency failed to respond to our lawful requests for information about the 9/11 plot."

"Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation."

They continued: “There could have been absolutely no doubt in the mind of anyone at the CIA — or the White House — of the commission’s interest in any and all information related to Qaeda detainees involved in the 9/11 plot.

"Yet no one in the administration ever told the commission of the existence of videotapes of detainee interrogations," Kean and Hamilton wrote.

The letter can be found on page 26 of the ACLU's set of unveiled documents.

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  • The American people do not want an administration that allows the owner of a large downtown office building, in need of major asbestos removal, to be an 'accidental victim of terrorism", where thousands of civillians died, brought on by the new world order/mossad/republican party.The democratic party is needed to keep the wolves out of the henhouse.
  • shane
    I love reading all the comments.

    Makes me feel like a fucking genius.

    Amazing some of you guys graduated college. Proof our education system is completely fucked. You want a conspiracy theory? There it is, the education system graduating sheep that can't think for themselves or logically evaluate evidence and seperate it from the bull shit. Unfuckingbelievable!
  • shane
    "..Marcy Wheeler speculates that this [Commissions proposed request to participate in the questioning of detainees] was an attempt by the Bush administration to ensure that its torture of certain detainees.."

    "SPECULATES = assume". When you ASSUME you make an ASS of U and ME. There's this thing, maybe you've heard of it, called evidence. How about next time you start quoting speculations you just highlight everything that person says and do all of us all a favor and press the delete key.
  • Has anyone actually been able to read the ACLU obtained document referred to? I have tried numerous times to download the document and met with error notice each time: "An error has occurred while trying to use this document."
    However I have no trouble downloading another "unveiled document" at their site.
  • jsteven
    Not surprised--a NYT reporter published a book on the investigation a couple of years ago, and he said as much!
  • walterallenhaxton
    No they won't be tried. That statement implies that our government follows the same moral code that we do as people. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Our Government breaks the moral code of the common man constantly. Trying such men would diminish the power of those doing it. They will never permit that. They intend to keep acquiring power until society is so disorganized that it collapses in ruins. We need to have plans for putting it back together again after they loose control. Essential services must be kept and the government must be swept into the dust bin of history and outlawed. Death is certain for man. Taxes are not. They are licensed theft. Wholly immoral. Outlawing them and the control of money by the banking monopoly and the state will make societies problems solvable.
  • when_the_whip_comes_down
    aptly said.
  • Sanger
    If I colluded in a crime which plunged the world into an indefinite period of war, while at the same time, eroded the civil liberties of the people of a Representative Republic. I would not want that information known and proven. Despite them having eyes to see.

    I would be concerned that I would be hanging from a lamp post on what was formerly known as mainstreet until the corporations eviscerated the Country.
  • marzi
    It wouldn’t have mattered if 9/11 Commissioners could have spoken to the tortured suspects themselves because the commissioners were a bunch a paid hacks who would have done whatever was necessary to falsify the story.
  • theAbleDanger
    Where are all the lawyers who lined up to defend the Gitmo detainees? Well we need them NOW!

    9/11 was a false flag operation and many people got very rich from it. Do yourself a favor and get a copy of "ABLE DANGER" the novel at all major online stores worldwide. It tells how the White House accomplished their False Flag operation from their own words extracted from transcripts and White House aides.
  • TheBamb
    My view is 911 was staged like a Hollywood movie, well planned and only a few insiders who knew what was going on. Colin Powell and Condi certianly didn't have a clue. Powell was clearly used by them to give that speech at the UN, for which he later regretted. The Insiders: Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld and a few "operatives" were all it took. As far as who wanted a war in the mideast, the question is who didn't? There are too many powerful factions that wanted a piece of the pie: oil industry, weapons industry, evangelicals and Israeli-firsters, and of course the Jews themselves. Additionally Christian Americans generally love sending their boys off to war, just like a rite of passage. It fills hearts with patriotism and pride.

    You think a handful naysaying racists, and left-wing peaceniks can stand up to that?
  • panamarick
    "911 was an inside job" Media response as of 03-19-10 : "yeah so what, what are you going to do about it wage slave?
  • Matt
    I'm sure once Obama got elected some big wigs who actually run this country pulled Obama to a back room and said we know you ran on Hope and Change, but this is the way things are going to be run around here, and if you don't like it we got three initials for you J.F.K. and that is why he really isn't going after the bankers, big Pharma and big oil.
  • Liberal_1
    Most of you probably recall the interview on PBS with John McNeil who died in the Towers on 9/11 but to re-read the 2002 interview is enlightening.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/k...
  • Dav
    Some of you people are so whacked out paranoid, my comments are effectively just pissing in the wind, but what the hell, I'll express myself anyhow.

    Hey: There's not necessarily a grand amazing coverup conspiracy here. This story is just the Bush administration drawing the same line that is drawn every day again and again in Washington, with good reason. That is, there's some information that can't be shared, its classified. With the 9/11 Commission, the point is, we'll give you almost every access possible, but at some point, that access will reach a limit.

    The government simply cannot make every bit of everything it does available in the public domain. This isn't all an evil conspiracy, its just reasonable classification of information that should be very restricted from people who want to blow shit up and decapitate your children.

    I hope there are hard men out there doing extremely hard shit that I don't know about. I hope they are pumping lead and long steel knives up in the people in dark places who are conspiring to blow up airplanes in Detroit and Richmond and Houston and Lincoln. I'm glad that's a secret and I hope they keep doing it. And I hope they're judiciously stretching laws and morals and conventional sensibilities to get it done.

    Because make no mistake about it: 9/11 will happen again, in some form. It is being planned right now, somewhere. Its probably been attempted and failed once already at least. Its coming again. I am completely comfortable with the defense against that day being prosecuted with extreme prejudice. And a hefty cloak of secrecy.
  • TrueSeeker
    So you blindly accept the numerous oddities that occurred as though they don't matter. Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane and had only minor fires, suddenly collapses a full 7 hours after the towers fell. The collapse, which took less than 7 seconds, had all the signs of a controlled demolition. Also, there were several recorded statements from the media and firemen that indicated they knew it was coming down ahead of time. And of course there's the famous quote from Larry Silverstein (owner of the massively insured WTC complex) who said "the smartest thing to do is just PULL IT". It is well known that 'pull it' is a common phrased used by demolition teams to blow up a building.

    The questions about WTC building 7 are just one example of serious issues that were swept under the rug. There are hundreds more. The big question is WHY does attempting to answer these questions make the administration so nervous. WHY don't they want to try to answer these questions. Surely it would be a good idea for us to understand why a supposedly well built steel frame building suddenly implodes with only minor fires. If there is a fundamental flaw in the building design methods, are other buildings also at risk? Are we taking our lives in our hands by working in office towers that could collapse any second?
  • trustthis
    “Some of you people are so whacked out paranoid, my comments are effectively just pissing in the wind, but what the hell, I'll express myself anyhow.”

    Translation: Anyone who disagrees with my sage comments is crazy. tt


    ”The government simply cannot make every bit of everything it does available in the public domain.”

    They weren’t being asked to. Did you forget that the Bush Administration was allowed to do the final vetting of the 9/11 Commission’s report, which resulted in many blacked out pages? tt


    “This isn't all an evil conspiracy, its just reasonable classification of information that should be very restricted from people who want to blow shit up and decapitate your children.”

    And it is unreasonable classification when applied to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States that, as far as I know, was no threat to “blow shit up and decapitate your children.” tt


    “And I hope they're judiciously stretching laws and morals and conventional sensibilities to get it done.”

    What good are laws and morals if they are to be “stretched” whenever we are threatened? Are we such a nation of quivering cowards that we are willing to chuck our principles whenever the government trots out a new boogieman? And tacking “judiciously” onto that betrayal of principle makes it no less insipid. Laws and morals, we don’t need no stinking laws and morals. tt


    “Because make no mistake about it: 9/11 will happen again… I am completely comfortable with the defense against that day being prosecuted with extreme prejudice.”

    Did you really say, “prosecuted with extreme prejudice?” What, just watched a “24” marathon? Look at how goddamned programmed you are, they even influence your expressions. Now please go back to FreeRepublic and NewsMax. tt
  • Dav
    Well, I've never seen 24. The phrase that you seem to object to is just a collection of words that alternatively might have been stated "carried out aggressively." Sorry I didn't say those words instead. Or do those words conjure another TV program that you object to? Hmph. I'm at a loss here. Its hard to say things without using words to say the things. I have also never read the other publications or websites you refer to in your closing.

    Most of your retort falls in the scope of entirely reasonable discourse, but, I guess that last bit was... kinda stupid.

    So anyway:

    Blacked out pages -- I have no problem with that. Information is imperfectly compartmentalized. When the 911 Commission was given tremendous access, which they were, they were bound to uncover and document things that were later found to be inappropriate or improper or dangerous for public release. Blacked out pages doesn't necessarily mean evil scary coverup.

    Stretching laws and morals -- Let me try that one again. Yes, I meant that. When evil people who conspire to dismember and burn and eviscerate thousands of non-combatant men, women, and children are found, I hope that hard men are there with hot pokers and all other manner of devious torture and interrogation techniques to explore any means necessary to safeguard the rest of us gentle sheep. I'm not just saying that. I mean it. I want the government to seriously get medieval, literally, on terrorists. I want water boarding.

    Now, I'm not advocating torture of any old nasty fellas. But when they know, for sure, when a guy is caught ironclad red-handed -- failing to blow up his shoes or something -- I want my government getting down real hard. And to the original point -- I don't feel like I need to know about exactly how they get down, and I don't feel like you do either.

    Yes, I realize that's a slippery slope of the worst kind. I want them on that slope, finding the balance. I believe its necessary.

    Incidentally, I've voted for Bush, Perot, Clinton, Bush, Bush, and McCain. I voted for McCain, but I was happy for Obama's election simply for the societal marker it provided. I'm not a party guy. I despise partisan politics, and I don't just trot out that cliche. I don't have a dumb-ass party affiliation -- because that's really stupid. There's no agenda in my comments. There's no side I'm standing on.
  • trustthis
    "I've never seen 24. The phrase that you seem to object to is just a collection of words that alternatively might have been stated "carried out aggressively." ... I have also never read the other publications or websites you refer to in your closing...Most of your retort falls in the scope of entirely reasonable discourse, but, I guess that last bit was... kinda stupid."

    I am surprised you didn't like it, Dav, considering that it was a stab in the dark on my part, prosecuted with extreme prejudice. tt


    "Blacked out pages -- I have no problem with that. Information is imperfectly compartmentalized. When the 911 Commission was given tremendous access, which they were, they were bound to uncover and document things that were later found to be inappropriate or improper or dangerous for public release. Blacked out pages doesn't necessarily mean evil scary coverup."

    Straw man Dav, I never claimed that it did. The actual point I made was that since the Bush Administration had been given the ability to censor the final Commission report it was unreasonable to then deny the Commission access to the detainees in order to safeguard potentially dangerous intelligence information from public release. tt


    "Now, I'm not advocating torture of any old nasty fellas. But when they know, for sure, when a guy is caught ironclad red-handed -- failing to blow up his shoes or something -- I want my government getting down real hard. And to the original point -- I don't feel like I need to know about exactly how they get down, and I don't feel like you do either...Yes, I realize that's a slippery slope of the worst kind. I want them on that slope, finding the balance. I believe its necessary."

    I damn well want to know if my government is violating the law of the land. They are doing it in my name and on my dime. How are we different from our enemy if we adopt his tactics, sacrificing our long-standing principles on the alter of expediency and self-preservation? An ends justify the means paradigm is the essence of immorality and I want no part of it. tt
  • w00t
    My enemies are apparently your friends.

    I think your friends need to be tortured.

    Sound like a plan?

    I can do this without all the euphemistic innuendo and moral exceptionalism, see?

    The law is irrelevant when fighting you and your friends. I can stretch, bend, break, basically I can do whatever the fuck I want. Maybe we can start with some "diapering", how about that?
    http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/25/prolonge...

    We'll get to the massive waterboarding sessions later on.
    Sound cool? Righty, right, we're on then.
  • Interesting but rather pointless. The USA government is a criminal organization. In almost all of it's activities you can count on there being some aspect of them that is criminal. I am not saying illegal since that organization determines legality. What I am saying is that no person or private organization , without government protection, would escape prosecution for it's criminal activities if it did exactly the same as the USA government does.
  • plunger
    Plenty of links and facts to consider here:

    http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/35816
  • geo1671
    What's with B.S. of the incoming plane headed towards WTC towers?
    Photo shopped U dummies!
    911 commisioners were all stooges--this letter is no news. Even if was produced years ago--nothing will change. What is surprizing today, for the first time Alex Jones had an interviewer who said }sreal had done the 911 attacks.
    http://eclipptv.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=177
    I bet real money for anyone on this site--this interview will never be allowed--
    -Yaah! Surrrre! planes hit the WTC 1 & 2 towers --Spelling of Stupid has always a U & I
  • Huffington Post is also caving in to government scripts about what you can talk about and what you cannot.

    It is not a moral issue, it is a sickness.
  • While the al Qaeda terrorists carried out the attacks on 9/11, the CIA and FBI HQ knowingly, intentionally and deliberately allowed these attack to take place, and the proof for this comes directly from US official accounts of 9/11.

    The CIA and units at FBI HQ who were under orders from the CIA shut down all FBI criminal investigations of al Qaeda terrorists known to be inside of the US in late August, 2001, when al Qaeda terrorists were found inside of the US.

    The CIA knew in July 2001 that the people at the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting in January 2000, were connected to the warnings the CIA had been receiving since April 2001, about a huge al Qaeda attack about to take place inside of the US and had specially focused on Khalid al-Mihdhar as a terrorist who would be found at the location of the next big al Qaeda “operation”, CIA speak for al Qaeda attack.

    When Mihdhar and Hazmi were found to be inside of the US on August 22, 2001 and this information given to the CIA and FBI HQ these agencies knew immediately that Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US only in order to take part in horrific terrorists attacks, the attacks on 9/11.

    So what did the FBI HQ and CIA do with this information.

    First they kept it as a complete secret from the FBI criminal investigators on the Cole bombing, even though both the CIA and FBI HQ knew that Mihdhar and Hazmi had taken part in the planning of the Cole bombing with Walid bin Attash at the Kuala Lumpur meeting.

    When the FBI Cole bombing investigators accidentally found out on August 28, 2001 that Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US, the FBI HQ and CIA shut down their investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, even while knowing by doing so thousands of Americans were going to perish in these attacks as a direct result of their actions to shut down these investigations.

    Let me repeat, when the CIA and FBI HQ knew Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US in order to take part in massive al Qaeda attacks that would murder thousands of Americans they shut down investigations that could have prevented these attacks. All of this information, taken from official US government documents, can be found in a book “Prior Knowledge of 9/11”.
  • mick
    al Qaeda is bullshit. Intelligence Agents and high ranking "insiders" committed the 911attacks.And the most likely method was the aircraft digital flight system was "hacked and over ridden" .If there was actually 19 Arabs on board the 4 planes they had nothing to do with the hijackings.One of the aircraft flight data proved that the cockpit door had not opened from takeoff till destruction, how do you hijack a plane with out opening the cockpit door ? Why didn't any pilot give the hijack code ?
  • plunger
    Thank you for your patriotic example. Whos's next to reveal the truth they know?
  • Thanks for your support. You can imagine my shock when I found out, with information from the US governments own investigations of 9/11, that the CIA and FBI HQ had intentionally allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to carry out the attacks on 9/11. They had withheld the fact that Mihdhar and Hazmi had been photographed at the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting in January 2000, and had criminally obstructed the Cole bombing investigation many times to keep this information hidden from the FBI criminal investigators.

    It was even possible to figure out why the FBI HQ and the CIA had hidden this information from the FBI criminal; investigators. Both the attacks on 9/11 and the Cole bombing were planned at Kuala Lumpur, and when Walid bin Attash was indentified in a photo of him at taken at Kuala Lumpur with Mihdhar and Hazmi actually planning the Cole bombing, photos the CIA had taken of all attendees at this Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting, the CIA wanted this information kept secret for fear it would get out to the American public, and the CIA would look culpable for having allowed the bombing of the USS Cole.

    When the CIA and FBI HQ was told on August 22, 2001, that Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US both agencies knew that were here to take part in the massive al Qaeda attack these agencies had been warned about. But they not only tried to keep this a secret from the FBI Cole investigators, they shut down their investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi when these investigators accidently found out that Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US.

    Both the FBI HQ and the CIA were afraid that if the FBI criminal investigators on the Cole bombing continued with their investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi and then found the photo of Walid Bin Attash also at Kuala Lumpur actually planning the Cole bombing, that half of the FBI HQ and the CIA would have gone to prison for years for having criminally obstructed the Cole bombing investigation.

    First they were trying to hide their culpability in the Cole bombing and then they wanted to hide their criminal obstruction of the FBI criminal investigation into the Cole bombing. When FBI HQ and the CIA shut down the investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi they knew that thousands of Americans were going to perish in these attacks that would have been prevented by this investigation.
  • Boneman
    Marcy??? WTF. Oh, yeah, if you accept "the official story" put out by the 911 omission report. Man, let me have marcy's job. I will smoke her in journalism!!!!!!! What a ditz... mother fucking ditz.
  • Pete
    Anyone with half-a-brain knows by now that the Israelis and the neocons were aware of the attack.
  • ghm
    And the penalty is?
  • Bldg7
    With regards to the events that occured on 9/11/01, you have a choice.

    You can believe Science or you can believe George W. Bush and friends.
  • cooper
    Well put. Too bad the mainstream scientific community has chosen to abandon it's methods and principles to work in lockstep with the government propaganda machine. That's exactly what happened in Nazi Germany.
  • dave
    It gets worse as time goes on ,for not arresting and processing Bush and gang for war crimes the world places the blame now on every American.
    In Mexico they hunt you down for sport like in many other places in the world.

    This has to be corrected you must arrest and process your war criminals.
    Failure to do so will make each American complicit for their crimes .
  • Matt Garrett
    Nothing to see here. Move along.
  • Lyman
    ....and move along we will, for awhile, quietly controlling our anger.
    But justice cannot sleep forever.
  • NYX
    It's getting a little warm in here.
  • The question is not whether we need a new investigation. That's obvious to any unbiased observer. Who would run it, and where?

    If Obama wanted one, he'd have called for it by now, but he hasn't even allowed Holder to prosecute crimes that were clearly committed by Bush administration officials. Republicans obviously don't want one, because it would expose crimes...not just torture of detainees, but complicity by evil forces inside the administration itself.
  • mick
    Ask Sibel Edmonds about Dennis Hastert ...
    "“In 2005, Vanity Fair reported that Dennis Hastert had been bribed by Turkish interests. If people want to investigate this further they should FOIA the FBI’s Chicago Field Office for information regarding Mehmet Celebi going back to 1997. If the FBI is honest, there will be boxes and boxes of files responsive to these FOIA requests.“"
  • when_the_whip_comes_down
    Here is an article about Sibel Edmonds deposition. and the deposition can be found on the BRAD BLOG.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/articl...
  • when_the_whip_comes_down
    It makes one wonder where the authority lays for a proper investigation and prosecution to commence.
  • bushisakiller
    bullshit....
  • plunger
  • stevieb
    Yes we wouldn't want Americans to know why information "linking the Israelis to 9/11" is strictly classified. Or why hundred of Mossad agents rounded up in the New York/Jersey area were released when we have hundreds of innocent Muslims rotting in Cuba.

    Or why the U.S government insists on backing Israeli war crimes and crimes against the American people...
  • lorax
    I think the coverup goes deeper than hiding the torture of detainees. The Bush administration wanted to coverup the fact that Dubya's brother was in charge of security of the Trade Center and that other buildings "pancaked" even though they were not hit by planes - indicating a wider conspiracy. They wanted to coverup the fact that Cheney was already in the air in a "terror attack drill" (his "undisclosed location"). The PNAC plan and the plan to implicate Iraq in order to prepare the public for the Iraq invasion was already underway - and the Bush administration needed to coverup its treasonous activities and war crimes. The torture is just the tip of the criminal iceberg that was the Bush administration.
  • Lyman
    We all know the truth but we dare not say it because the next sentence then would
    necessarily need to include the word "revolutuion".
  • RichardG
    The torture explanation is lame; torture WAS revealed and the Bush Administration cared little. Most of them bragged about it. There is something else they want to cover up. In fact, there is almost EVERYTHING else they want to cover up. The warning not to "cross a line" really means "don't ask questions about inconsistencies in the Bush Administration story. Who benefits from a sham investigation into a crime? The victim?
  • It’s not shocking news, but consistent with what we know of Bush Co. The crime is the unwillingness of Obama administration to go after these thugs, as well as the continuing codification of their policies.
  • gabeh73
    Face it, the US engaged in false flag terrorism again. It is nothing new. Our government lies continuously. They killed JFK and the military-industrial-bankster complex has been 100% in charge ever since.
  • Druthers
    Remember those days long ago? Somehow the Bush administration, did I say Cheney, didn't want the 9/11 commission. The families were up in arms to get a commission at all.
    But - what do you do when you want to drown an investigation? You create your own commission so that the members sit up or roll over on command.
    Sit Rover!
  • jpendur
    There is no line that the neo-cons would not cross, themselves...
  • Moon
    No one is protecting the American People. We have the Enemy WITHIN. Dont TRUST your friends TOO MUCH.
  • brain1
    Bush/Cheney was spewing that "We want to Protect Americans" Crap, right when they were trying to sell 7 American Seaports to the United Emirate Arab Republic.
    They were so Pathetically Full of Shit!!!
    Bush/Cheney Attacked the World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2, and 7. They Attacked their own Pentagon with a Cruise Missile.
    And they were saying we want to protect Americans!!
    Thats like having Ted Bundy Protecting your College Student Daughter, only Millions Times Worse!!!
  • Greg
    You are all left wing nutsacks. Always looking for a reason to tear down this country. Always searching for something that says it was all BUSH. It would be funny if it wasn't so delusional. Your messiah is being revealed as a mental midget but still you have nothing better to do with your time than BushBash. Get a life and do something positive for your community.
  • trustthis
    "Always searching for something that says it was all BUSH."

    Honestly, you don't need to do much searching. It all seems to be coming out of its own accord.
  • chriswis
    Are you for real? Only 5 sentences, and so much crap it would almost lead me to believe you would have to be somewhat intelligent to even pull it off... but alas, I sense no sarcasm, so you have to either be a paid troll or truly impaired. I mean honestly, "bush" and "mental midget" within two sentences of eachother, and the latter is NOT describing the former??? Holy cow...I'm crying over here... that is RICH!
  • Mihail
    Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

    “It is legitimate to adopt a critical attitude toward the relatively large number of Jews who particularly in the first decade after the Bolshevik revolution collaborated with the Soviet Government in the persecution of other peoples.” — Statement of researcher Michael Mills, an official of the government of Australia at Canberra. (Source: Forward, March 10, 2000)

    — Robert Wilton, a long time Russia correspondent for the London Times, said in his book The Last Days of the Romanovs:

    “According to the data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State there were in 1918-1919: 17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Lets, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 2 Poles, 2 Finns, 1 Karaim, 457 Jews.

    “As the decades past by — after the fateful year 1917 — Judaized Khazars kept a firm hand on the helm of the government in the occupied land of Russia. In due time they built a bureaucracy to their heart’s desire.”

    “The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism.” (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 143-144).

    The American Hebrew September 10, 1920:

    “The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”

    “The Jews welcome this revolution in the Christian world, and the Jews should show an example. It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism: all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews.” (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, by Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 148).

    “We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America.” (The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit).
  • zach
    Anyone with half a brain knows it was an inside job. How did it go down? Don't know. But unless you're one of those mindless flag worshiping neocons, you have to see that the terrorists were aided and that building 7 was demolished.
  • BUDDAH
    NOW FOR IDIOTS THAT CANT SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL!!!! DOES IT GET ANY CLEARER THE LIES, DECEIT WEAPONS OF MASS DISTORTION!!! BEYOND THE LOOKING GLASS!!!! THESE FUCKBAGS NEED THEIR HEADS TAKEN OFF SADAM STYLE!! ASTOUNDED BY THE SHODDY COVERUP!! KILL THESE BASTARDS THEN THE PLANET WILL REDEEM ITSELF!!! WOKEN THE FUCK UP YET!!!??? PEACE BUDDAH
  • plunger
    The original bond between GHW Bush and Israeli intelligence was formed around the Iran Hostage Crisis. Begin had been furious that he was effectively forced into a bad deal for Israel (giving up territory) by Jimmy Carter, and wanted to ensure that Carter would not be re-elected. It was at that point that Israel aligned itself with the Republican party, and GHW Bush brokered the relationship that would ensure a Reagan victory. This set the stage for the co-conspirators to form their own Shadow Government within the United States Government - which remains in place despite an apparent change of party control. The Lewinsky affair with Clinton was arranged by these co-conspirators to take down Clinton at the behest of GHW Bush, who was pissed that Clinton had denied him a second term.

    This Shadow Government, with Mossad as its co-conspirator, planned and executed 9/11, the Anthrax attacks, and all that followed. What the Christian Zionists never expected was that Israel would use these same events to blackmail their co-conspirators, which serves to explain why the US Government is so actively engaged in the cover-up of 9/11, while allowing Israel do do as it pleases in Gaza, Lebanon, and coming soon - Iran. All of the Shadow Government operatives, all the way up to David Rockefeller, are being held hostage by Israeli blackmail. Israel has ALL the evidence hanging over their heads, and effectively controls America (and its nuclear arsenal) as a result:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/articl...

    “A meeting between Miles Copeland and Israeli intelligence officers was held at a Georgetown house in Washington, D.C.,” Ben-Menashe wrote. “The Israelis were happy to deal with any initiative [regarding the hostages] but Carter’s.

    " David Kimche, chief of Tevel, the foreign relations unit of Mossad, was the senior Israeli at the meeting. …The Israelis and the Copeland group came up with a two-pronged plan to use quiet diplomacy with the Iranians and to draw up a scheme for military action against Iran that would not jeopardize the lives of the hostages.”

    In late February 1980, Seyeed Mehdi Kashani, an Iranian emissary, arrived in Israel to discuss Iran’s growing desperation for aircraft spare parts, Ben-Menashe wrote. Kashani, whom Ben-Menashe had known from their school days in Tehran, also revealed that overtures from Republican emissaries regarding the hostages already had been received, Ben-Menashe wrote.

    “Kashani said that the secret ex-CIA-Miles-Copeland group was aware that any deal cut with the Iranians would have to include the Israelis because they would have to be used as a third party to sell military equipment to Iran,” according to Ben-Menashe.

    In his book and sworn testimony, Ben-Menashe asserted that GOP vice presidential candidate Bush personally participated in a key meeting in October 1980 in Paris. In 1992, at two press conferences, then-President Bush denied that claim but never agreed to be questioned under oath in a formal government inquiry.

    After Reagan won the election -- and the U.S. hostages were released immediately after Reagan was sworn in on Jan. 20, 1981 -- Israeli-brokered weapons shipments flowed to Iran with the secret blessing of the new Republican administration.

    Extensive evidence also exists to support the allegations of a Republican-Israeli-Iranian collaboration – including statements from senior Iranian officials, international arms dealers, intelligence operatives, and Middle East political figures (including a cryptic confirmation from Begin’s successor Yitzhak Shamir). But the truth about the October Surprise case remains in dispute. [For details, see Robert Parry’s Secrecy & Privilege.]

    Blackmail:

    http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/2009/06/israe...
  • when_the_whip_comes_down
    That article confirmed my theory about the October surprise that I had ever since I saw Regan inaugurated the first time.
    That Bu$h was behind the missions demise.
    I also found the article interesting in that Bu$h is so willing to get into bed with anybody to achieve his immediate political goal... only to shit can them later for the next political flavor of the month.
  • I don't think the Bush administration was smart enough to have had any hand in 9/11, but I do believe they knew more beforehand than has been previously disclosed. I believe they ignored warnings but that it was simple incompetence, not malice.
  • Kuergun
    It's so obvious that the x president Gerge W Bush the CIA and the british governments were behind all of this under the rules of the Illuminati. To make war and money and rule the oil!! As it is seen Al Qaeda only appears in oil rich countries!!! They were looking for the Atomic bombs that went missing but Sadam hide them in Iran!! So now they are picking on Iran!! but they won't get away with the same lies as 9/11. So there are going to get the Jews to do there work for them.But they had better watch out for China as they are becoming very powerful!!!
  • angellocsin
    the jews did 9/11
  • Reggie
    Answer the question. How can two airplanes take down three buildings?

    WTC building #7 was not hit by any airplane, but collapsed in an apparently controlled manner later that day. Certain firemen and police had advance knowledge that it would becoming down that afternoon.

    Personally, I suspect flight #93 had WTC7 as its intended target, but failed to reach its destination due to the heroes onboard. A building fully rigged with demolitions would certainly be hard to explain. Better to take it down ("pull it") without any plane strike, and reduce the evidence.
  • not exactly, if a 757 crashed in Shanksville there would have been a huge obvious 757 crash site... supposedly 93 crashed and embedded into the ground and was covered over by earth.. right. was the field made of quicksand? Here is what actual airline crashes look like: http://www.planecrashinfo.com/w20020701.htm
  • trustthis
    If it ever hits the fan concerning "what really happened," do we really know that will lead to a favorable outcome for the average American?
  • Westcoastliberal
    Don't forget the Bushies were totally against ANY commission to investigate what happened on 9/11. And now the government has used the "UFO" approach to discredit those who disagree with the "official" story. The "tinfoil hat" syndrome. WTF, if you want to learn what's REALLY going on right now in the USA, read Naomi Klein's book "The Shock Doctrine". The Chicago School boys are in and now it's not South America, it's us they're shocking.
  • stevenj3
    Bush II and Rummy made a lot of their friend rich with all the war $$$.
  • Kendo24
    Asking Congress to investigate 9/11 is like asking the Godfather to investigate organized crime.I'm afraid we are all barking up the wrong tree here.....
  • mick
    Ask the International Criminal Courts instead.
  • LEFTY-24/7
    Old news- we knows theys a buncha rat fuckin pervert war criminals the whole rotton lot of the bush crime family, to prove it.. they got the shit beat of them in the last election
  • ctcadguy
    Never one any of his elections.

    He cheated.
  • All the crazy people that think there may be more to 911 than the bushie NeoCon Cabal wanted us to hear, will have one more piece of the puzzle. The air traffic controller tapes were destroyed too. Then there is the rubble of the WTCs and Pentagon..... They sure got rid of it quick... We don't hear much about any analysis of the the steel from the government... Hey it's alot like the interrogations, mum.... Don't ask any questions, believe US.. and even if we are stealin BILLIONS and KILLING MILLIONS, it would be better for you not to know too much. Yaa way safer for you.... We wanna make you safe, uknow ignorance an trusttin US it's how you stay safe.... An PLEASE No Questions, our enemies will learn our secrets.......
  • MIKE CSsR
    Dont worry, God knows the truth and he will deal with it in his own way, if it is a republican inside job then they will have a long, slow, deep, painfull meltdown.
  • mick
    and WTF do us atheist do ?
  • tweater
    Time to take back what is ours. This site is a great start!

    http://www.articlesoffreedom.us/Home.aspx
  • The 9/11 investigation was heavily restricted. This all needs to be reopened. Let's not also forget that Paul O'Neill said that the invasion of Iraq was being planned in detail by the White House nine months before the 9/11 attacks took place. The attacks are what the White House needed to sell the American public on the idea of attacking Iraq which Cheney believed, along with the American Enterprise Institute, was behind the whole operation and many others. A black flag operation, or the same, "an inside job" cannot be ruled out.
  • when_the_whip_comes_down
    If you would like to read up on the event that was the setup for 9/11, the October Surprise was the significant change of direction for our country. This article names some players and yes... the Z!on!$t$ have their hands all over it... mostly because Carter pissed them off.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/articl...
  • defence
    The torture was used to confirm the "official" story. The Bush Admin was not worried about the public finding out about torture hell they admitted using torture numerous times on TV. No they needed false confessions that would prop up the "official" story.
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