Obama agencies invoking secrecy provision more often than under Bush

By John Byrne
Tuesday, March 16th, 2010 -- 9:14 am
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obamaface20090612 Obama agencies invoking secrecy provision more often than under BushOne day after being sworn into office, President Barack Obama instructed federal agencies to ensure government transparency by complying with the spirit of the Freedom of Information Act law.

"All agencies should adopt a presumption in favor of disclosure, in order to renew their commitment to the principles embodied in FOIA, and to usher in a new era of open Government," Obama wrote in a memo to federal agencies Jan. 21, 2009. "The presumption of disclosure should be applied to all decisions involving FOIA."

"The presumption of disclosure also means that agencies should take affirmative steps to make information public," the newly-installed president continued. "They should not wait for specific requests from the public. All agencies should use modern technology to inform citizens about what is known and down by their Government. Disclosure should be timely."

One year later, Obama's requests for transparency have apparently gone unheeded. In fact a provision in the Freedom of Information Act law that allows the government to hide records that detail its internal decision-making has been invoked by Obama agencies more often in the past year than during the final year of President George W. Bush.

Major agencies cited that exemption to refuse records at least 70,779 times during the 2009 budget year, compared with 47,395 times during President George W. Bush's final full budget year, according to annual FOIA reports filed by federal agencies.

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An Associated Press review of Freedom of Information Act reports filed by 17 major agencies found that the use of nearly every one of the law's nine exemptions to withhold information from the public rose in fiscal year 2009, which ended last October.

The AP review comes on the heels of another bit of government transparency news: that the Obama Administration has threatened to veto a congressional intelligence bill because it objects to efforts to increase intelligence oversight.

Among other things, the proposed legislation would subject intelligence agencies to General Accountability Office review. US intelligence agencies are currently immune from review by the Congressional auditing office.

Departments used the government decision making exemption more even though Obama's Justice Department told agencies to that disclosing such records was "fully consistent with the purpose of the FOIA," a law intended to keep government accountable to the public.

For example, the Federal Aviation Administration cited the exemption in refusing the AP's FOIA request for internal memos on its decisions about a database showing incidents in which airplanes and birds collided. The FAA initially tried to withhold the bird-strike database from the public, but later released it under pressure.

The FAA claimed the same exemption to hold back nearly all records on its approval of an Air Force One flyover of New York City for publicity shots — a flight that prompted fears in the city of a Sept. 11-style attack. It also withheld internal communications during the aftermath of the public relations gaffe.

In all, major agencies cited that or other FOIA exemptions to refuse information at least 466,872 times in budget year 2009, compared with 312,683 times the previous year, the review found. Agencies often cite more than one exemption when withholding part or all of the material sought in an open-records request.

All told, the 17 agencies reviewed by AP reported getting 444,924 FOIA requests in fiscal 2009, compared with 493,610 in fiscal 2008."

The AP examined the 2008 and 2009 budget year FOIA reports from the departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Defense, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Justice, Labor, State, Transportation, Treasury and Veterans Affairs; the Environmental Protection Agency; and the Federal Reserve Board.

Other FOIA exemptions cover information on national defense and foreign relations, internal agency rules and practices, trade secrets, personal privacy, law enforcement proceedings, supervision of financial institutions and geological information on wells.

One, known as Exemption 3, covers dozens of types of information that Congress shielded from disclosure when passing other laws.

With AP.

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  • scrivener5
    The leadership of the various groups who (mistakenly) voted for and funded the campaign of Prez Obama need to be held accountable.

    Accountability is necessary in order to hold people to specific goals and outcomes.

    It is clear that Prez Obama is a "trojan horse." Prez Obama is a gifted orator.

    That is about all that he is.

    He can talk the talk. He cannot/will not/is too incompetent to...WALK THE WALK.
    It is high time for the leadership of various interests to QUICKLY identify a viable candidate who is serious and who means business.

    Campaigns are expensive. Campaigns cost MILLIONS of dollars.

    Competent leadership will act QUICKLY.
  • Let me clarify something for you..The Bible is not the word frm God but instead the word of the elitist class to control n manipulate the common man…who is king james..not God I assure u of tht..plus Jesus Christ was a JEW..free ur urself frm the shackles they have placed on ur mind..its all about control..wake the phuck up!!!…let’s restore our constitutional republic..
  • Jason
    The revolution should not be an attack on the government, the focus should be on the corporations that are raping the people of their country. To look at the government as the enemy is a major achievement of propaganda by international corporations and bankers. We need to unite to finds these terrorist and bring them to justice. Then, we can begin to build the democracy we all desire. Find and destroy the cancer, not the body.
  • Mihail
    Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

    “It is legitimate to adopt a critical attitude toward the relatively large number of Jews who particularly in the first decade after the Bolshevik revolution collaborated with the Soviet Government in the persecution of other peoples.” — Statement of researcher Michael Mills, an official of the government of Australia at Canberra. (Source: Forward, March 10, 2000)

    — Robert Wilton, a long time Russia correspondent for the London Times, said in his book The Last Days of the Romanovs:

    “According to the data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State there were in 1918-1919: 17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Lets, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 2 Poles, 2 Finns, 1 Karaim, 457 Jews.

    “As the decades past by — after the fateful year 1917 — Judaized Khazars kept a firm hand on the helm of the government in the occupied land of Russia. In due time they built a bureaucracy to their heart’s desire.”

    “The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism.” (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 143-144).

    The American Hebrew September 10, 1920:

    “The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”

    “The Jews welcome this revolution in the Christian world, and the Jews should show an example. It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism: all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews.” (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, by Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 148).

    “We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America.” (The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit).
  • Jhoffa_
    SAME you can believe in...
  • Vic Anderson
    Totally duplicitous Big Brother double-speaking DESPOTU.S. : Obamanible!
  • Mooftown
    I need to know more about this provision, and why exactly they used it, form the white house themselfs.
  • Rush Goofbaugh
    Move on republican christian war criminal sheeple of amerika... nothing to see here.....
  • Spire
    Dear Fellow Saps,
    Shocking? This is shocking.

    "Obama threatens to Veto proposed second probe into 2001 Anthrax attacks."
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-15/oba...

    There is no way I will call Obama an Uncle Tom, but I am considering Uncle Dick.
    Or maybe it is best configured differently, as in Obama was actually a Trojan Horse bringing with him all the crap from the bowels of the last administration but in a polished, handsome exterior. Either way, we're being screwed from both ends.
  • Spire
    Ha Ha. I get it. At first I thought you were really shocked, re: headline. But then I thought of Casablanca, when C. Raines says something like, Gambling? Here? I'm shocked. And so your headline was facetious, a twist of irony, a joke. Ha. Right? Obama's more secret than Bush? "No. I'm Shocked!" Ha ha. You did mean it that way, didn't you?
  • Don't expect sincere help from the congress or the mainstream media; only a serious boycott will suffice.. Starve the beast.
  • Joe
    LOL, why does this site label headlines like this with SHOCKER!?

    when are you going to stop projecting on to Obama what you wish him to be and wake up to what he actually is?
  • EmbeddedLobbyism
    This is political journalism. Our government is massive, with many independent agencies and not under as direct order of the president as politicos would like it to be.

    More interesting to note is that:

    1) Obama made a call to people to bombard information requests, all valid after that Bush administration of 8 years.

    2) An increase in activism leads to an increase of request being turned down at agencies.
  • Jack Jackalone
    I'll still take this administration anyday over what we had with the last administration, dems are for the people and neocons are for money and profits.
  • Democratic_Socialist
    Uh....there's a difference?!
  • Joe
    My favorite thing about these zombie Regressives is that they say things like "Democrats are spineless and pushovers" because there is absolutely no way they will believe that the Democrats are bought and paid for by the same corporations!! They are just scared to stand up to the evil Republicans. LOL. Naive dumbasses. Have fun on your merry-go-round!!
  • but did you really think you were taking the better of two evils or did you believe there would be some change?

    the only thing different is which corporations are getting the government handouts and who gets the dying middle classes cash...

    will we be enslaved by the financial and military complexes or will the medical industrial complex get a share? that is what the 2012 election will decide unless we primary this lying....
  • joblo
    Saying one thing and doing another does nothing for the people. Don't you get that?
    Just because there is an association with the name democrat of social justice etc. doesn't mean shit. It's an empty name, Democrat. Nothing is better or worse because it is the same. If Obama protects those who allowed torture, is it better for us? If he hides the governments activities from us the same as bush, is it better for us? that's like judging a book by its cover. Look at your comment and think about that.

    Just because he is on your team, and not one of the other guys, is that why it's better?
  • LIVE FREE OR DIE
    F*cking duh! It's not about left vs. right. It's about NWO vs. everyone else. Comments as ignorant as yours are the reason we're in this mess. BARACK OBAMA IS A CRIMINAL AND WILL BE TRIED FOR TREASON. BUSH IS ON THE SAME PLATTER. WHEN THEY'RE CONVICTED OF TREASON; THEY'RE EXECUTED. DONE.
  • texasaggie
    I wouldn't hold Obama responsible for this completely, but his record on other cases where he has infringed on public rights to the same extent as the Bush administration means that he can't be let off the hook either. Examples are the liability of the telecoms for spying that he was for before he was against, the use of state secrets to stop law suits against the government that he was against before he was for, and protection of the miscreants in the Bush administration.
  • Bushbamabad
    Of course you wouldn't dear. You worship the man. Some of us are into truth and reality instead of personality cults.

    Examples where Obama ABUSED his power to block FOIA requests.

    To protect Dick Cheney in a lawsuit about the outing of Valerie Plame. Using the lame dishonest Bush talking point, 'for reasons of national security' the Obama DOJ refused to release info about Cheney requested under the FOIA.
    On warantless wiretapping, he did it again to defend Cheney and deny a small Muslim charity their right to a day in court over being accused of terrorism.
    On his secret meetings with big coal executives at the White House (exactly like when Cheney met with big oil in secret) Obama has denied an FOIA request to make that available to the public……..national security doncha know!
    Obama also held secret meetings with health insurance companies at the White House to map out an acceptable game plan for health care last summer. Obama denied FOIA requests to release details of that meeting. He has since relented to pressure and released a partial sanitized summary of those secret meetings.
    The infamous missing emails (thousands) from the Bush administration were an example of Bush abusing FOIA. When Obama took power it was expected that he would have his DOJ reverse the decision to deny those emails to the public. Instead Obama doubled down and double crossed us by deciding to side with Bush and he refused to release them.
    On torture photos, there are almost too many instances to mention. But Obama has denied court requests, ACLU requests, CREW requests, and requests from torture victims in court dozens of times. Defending torture at GITMO, murder at GITMO, torture at Bagram, renditions in Italy. Defending torture seems to be the most common reason for Obama to deny these FOIA requests.

    Some people here (those very very very loyal to Obama) would have us all believe this is not really his fault or his doing. Those are all clear cut cases where Bush minions are not subverting the man of peace. Those are all clear cut cases of Obama acting like Bush. Did we vote for that? Obama made huge promises on open government during his campaign. His loyalists would rather you all forget about that. Here is the Obama spin on government secrecy. What a lying SOS his is!
    http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/TakingBackOurGov...
  • H.P. Loathecraft
    Obama has only been in office for 14 months. You must give him more time...in prison.
  • libertate
    Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul.
  • Democratic_Socialist
    And I wrote in Kucinich. O'Bummer's ACT was too fucking obvious to me.
  • Joe
    But Ron Paul is SCARY!!! Just vote for your favorite type of corrupt control freaks and forget about silly concepts like LIBERTY and the ENLIGHTENMENT.

    Ron Paul says that the citizen is the sovereign like those crazy old Teabaggers Jefferson and Madison. Yucky! I just want to eat Prozac and watch Karaoke on TeeVee.
  • carol h.
    This is no shocker. I stopped listening to the President a while back. And there will be no revolution. Other country's even those repressed ones, will get out and demonstrate. Our citizens will rarely ever get off their asses to do anything but gripe. Even in Iran they demonstrate. In Mexico they demonstrated one election for months.

    Not since Vietnam have there been sustained demonstrations. Just periodic ones and not ongoing. We have the government and the country we deserve. WE are sheep and unwilling to fight for anything. It's too much trouble. The President and the government know this. So do all the lunatic talking heads on the right. That's why they own the media and why they have all the money. And that is why we barely have a whisper of Democracy left.

    Let's just admit we have little left that people fought and died for. And let's stop referring to the Constitution that the government itself no longer recognizes as worth anything. Our President certainly does not follow it. Whatever his former profession, his belief was not strong enough to last through his first year.

    So boys and girls if you have a copy of the Constitution, frame it and hang it up. One day it will make a great curiosity piece.
  • ehswan
    Carol, my take away is that pres. Obama may mean well but has no real power.
  • Jesus Jones
    or...................don't give up and quit. Keep fighting for democracy and the rights that were stolen by Bush and Obama.
    Fight smart. Reject these two filthy parties, their corruption and their lies.
    The day and abused wife walks out on her husband is terrifying for her, but it is the only way to get free. Staying with the abusive husband who alternates beatings with his R hand and his D hand is not the way to fix this mess. Continually rationalizing the beatings with the D hand because they don't hurt quite as much as the R hand is pure insanity.

    Once enough Americans understand the truth, maybe there will be protests and serious effort to change things. But the disgusting lying media pukes will do their best not to cover such peace protests and efforts to end wars.
    A perfect example being the blackout last week of any news on the Dennis Kucinich sponsored vote in Congress to end our wars. The Obama friendly propaganda outlets who did their bit to keep our wars going by refusing to cover that vote are scum.

    First awareness, then protests.
  • Disobedientplant
    Poor Dennis...bought and paid for.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/17/its-offic...
  • oh Bushbama, once again your level of disappointment exceeds the boundaries of hope...

    and the only change we see is what fall in our cup when we beg for hope on the streets...

    Progressives must primary this corporatist or risk the loss of America to the Financial and Military Industrial Complexes. Who will win once the people have lost and only these two behemoths are left to do battle?
  • proudliberal1947
    The administration is doing as requested keep it quit, keep it buried and you will live.

    Like Emanuel isn't behind the coverup of his buddies. The Nazi and Racist KKK republiCANTS are going to turn and bite these disingenuous Bastards.
  • Dan
    Hey RawStory, since the AP is a suspect news organization, I ask for some qualification on this "news".
    The fiscal 2009 time frame includes 3 months of Bush and 9 months of Obama. How do these numbers break down for each administration for fiscal 09?

    Secondly, how many Bush moles are responsible for these FOIA denials?

    Let's dig a little deeper than the shiny surface.
  • tinfoilhatfordan
    That's some tinfoil hat shit right there.
  • donofcali
    If it were not true, Obama's loud mouth press secretary would be all over the news denying it. The administration's silence answers that question.
  • Jesus Jones
    Blaming Bush moles is not digging deeper.
    It is pathetic avoidance of reality.
    It is making excuses for Obama. It is denial.
    It is a red herring to take away from the obvious fact that Obama is abusing secrecy just as Bush did.
    Digging deeper would involve looking at what sort of FOIA requests were denied. If you do that you will find that most of it involves covering up TORTURE. Why don't YOU dig a little deeper into that are start dealing with reality.
    In fact, Obama is so driven to cover up torture, he is not only content to break the law to do it, he is willing to make new laws to help with that dark cause.
    http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/15/obama-move...
  • joblo
    DENIAL
  • Sigh...
    Hey he hasn't been in office long enough. Try again after 8 years.
  • Big AL
    I am not shocked at all. This is the same old same old with the same shitty results.
  • joblo
    I can't wait to see how people will defend this. Where are those commentators, dr. matt, progressive in new york? maybe they're catching on.

    I'm sure it would go something like this...."Well, he has to increase the privacy of government to stop the teabaggers from knowing stuff about the government that would make them protest the government more."
    The citizens are all the enemy now, get past the name calling.
  • Jesus Jones
    Good question. They must know that their lies have no chance here.
  • Hologram5
    Thanks for your candor joblo, this is indeed what is going on. I too, wish for people to put aside their differences in the Fed Gov't matters and fight the common enemy, the violators of our consititution. It happens every day with every vote they take. They have taken too much and must now give back or be removed.
  • Lyman
    Whatever you just said, I think that I am starting to agree.
  • Lyman
    Never ever,ever again will I vote for the lesser
    of two evils. Evil is evil. That's all there is to it.
    Obama appears to be a stooge just like Bush...although
    a bit more articulate and charismatic.
    Never ever,ever again will I vote for the lesser
    of two evils. In fact I don't think I will ever bother
    voting again. I am sick of being taken for a sucker.
  • Democratic_Socialist
    "Never ever,ever again will I vote for the lesser of two evils. Evil is evil."

    Well said! NOW...start getting a grassroots going in your area for Dennis Kucinich. His time is ripe and his heart is on "We the People" and not politics or corporations!
  • Jesus
    Exactly. That is why I did not vote for the son of a bitch. I hoped he would prove me wrong, but unfortunately not.
  • Mike
    Amen
  • BHO's campaign was accepting fraudulent credit card donations online long before his inauguration. And his attitude toward "transparency" should have been made clear to everyone from the time he began refusing to publicly release probative documentation affirming his Article II eligibility to be elected POTUS. That and his carefully hidden academic records make this "new" statistic pretty old, tired news.
  • DHRiley
    Why is this a shocker? All he's done since he got to the White House is validate everything Bush did. Change? The revolution will not be televised because it will not occur.
  • sleepcycle
    Took the words right out of my mouth. Perhaps Mr. Obama should put some Gil Scott Heron in his Ipod.
  • donofcali
    Agreed, just another blatant example of what a lying hypocrite Obama is.
  • Jesus Jones
    It would be a shocker to people who get their politics news here.
    That is because this place is always burying or ignoring the news stories that show Obama to be nothing but a Bush clone.
    The war crimes in Afghanistan, his continual defense of Bush and Cheney torture crimes and people, his Patriot Act renewal, his hawkish behavior towards Iran, and his secrecy are all being managed by Obama friendly news outlets. Instead of covering these things, many sites are substituting celebrity fluff and silly mindless stories about right wing clowns.
    This is not some random thing happening only here. A great summary of this propaganda shift is here.
    http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article...

    Some people are not the least bit surprised that Obama is abusing secrecy, just as his criminal predecessor did.
  • scytherius
    Hmm. I don't think that's true. The one reason I really like this site is we DO get the news that Obama is just a Bush clone. My posts, and many others, definitely carry that flag. hardly a day goes buy where RawStory doesn't post a news story that demonstrates that Obama IS a Bush clone.
  • Democratic_Socialist
    I must agree; however, I just wish they would bypass the "People Magazine" bull shit and the post-to-stir-anger articles about Limpballs, "Coal tar", prick-beck, and their ilk.
  • Ms Chokesondick
    Hmm, I do think that is true. Last week this site blacked out coverage of the Dennis Kucinich motion to hold a vote on ending the wars in Iraq and Aghanistan. All of the Obama propaganda sites did that too.

    Right now, the Obama administration is trying to give Blackwater a ONE BILLION DOLLAR contract in Afghanistan. No news here. But I am sure you read dozens and dozens of stories here a year ago on how Obama was going to put the boots to Blackwater.
    rawstory is helping to do a slow controlled release of the billion dollar Blackwater contract puttting out a small headline, no comments allowed.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

    If they did things as you say they do, that would be a massive headline.
  • Mooftown
    lmao ms chokesondick i though you were dead
  • Ralph
    Please people, say good-bye to this sorry assed piece of shit in 2012!
  • Democratic_Socialist
    With your help, mine, and others, Dennis Kucinich is positioned to do JUST THAT given the current sentiment of voters. HOWEVER...whether the corporate media will give Dennis a fair shake at the challenge remains to be seen.
  • scytherius
    I'll never ever vote GOP. But I sure as Hell am sitting out in 2010 and 2012. The GOP is just flat evil and wants us dead. Obama and the Dems are the epitome of ineptitude and they let this happen. Since they could change it, they are actually worse.
  • matticusfinch
    Dont sit it out, just vote Third party or only for Constitutional candidates with the Votes to back up what they say like Ron Paul or Kucinich. I hope both of them run in some capacity, but i bet people will fall for the lesser of two evils shit like always...
  • Democratic_Socialist
    Get behind Dennis. He may be a registered Democrat but he is LIGHT YEARS from the corporate shills that surround him in D.C. (Da Corporations) PLEASE don't throw this baby out with...well, you know....
  • LIVE FREE OR DIE
    Wrong DHR, the REVOLUTION IS OCCURING NOW. Remember what Kennedy said: Those who make a peaceful revolution impossible....make violent revolution INEVITABLE!

    Well, the VIOLENT REVOLUTION has begun. It's started with LONE WOLF nutcases who've attacked the IRS and the PENTAGON. The contingencies are arming up all over the country. There are the OATHKEEPERS, men and women in LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE MILITARY WHO WILL REFUSE TO OBEY ILLEGAL ORDERS SUCH AS DISARMING AMERICAN CITIZENS OR TAKING AMERICAN CITIZENS TO DETENTION CAMPS. There are THE THREE PERCENTERS....remember, it'll only take 3% of the population to PREVENT TYRANNY! Finally, we have the AMERICAN CITIZENS. Do you think that the CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO TAKE NOTICE THAT MORE THAN 14 MILLION GUNS WERE PURCHASED IN AMERICA IN 2009 THANKS TO THE GUN SALESMAN OF THE YEAR: BARACK "THE WARLORD" OBAMA. I, FOR ONE, AM ON THE SIDE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE REVOLUTION IS ALIVE AND WELL!
  • Mooftown
    Well you are clearly a sociopath..
  • matticusfinch
    Yup,

    300,000,000 People in America
    400,000,000 Guns in America
    80,000,000 Patriotic Veterans


    Gonna be a tough fight....
  • scytherius
    Here is where ALL those groups are being fooled, played, and will fail and shudder into irrelevancy. they actually think that one side is the "enemy". They think that one side is to blame. they think that people that speak their language are on their side. They are fools playing soldier.

    It is BOTH sides against us. it is "all of it". These idiot groups are just pawns fighting for "one side" which is the same damned side.

    How it is possible for these groups to be so utterly ignorant is beyond me. you REALLY think these groups aren't infiltrated and will be allowed to do no more than build a tree fort? PUHLEEZE. Let's say the utterly unlikely occurs. (And, yes, it is unlikely because frontal assaults just don't work. Read a little SunTzu) Let's say there is some sort of martial law. (Understand that no way the real government, the real control, corporations will let that happen because they simply do NOT have to.). The little cache of weapons, etc that these groups have, will be nothing. They will be wiped out in an instant. A few officers refuse to obey orders? Shot as traitors. It only takes a little of that and these little groups will be no more than some inept and self-important Red Dawn ban with the result being the exact opposite of the movie.

    They have all of these groups all lathered up so that we will be at war with "a side". And therein lies the simple genius of victory. Divide and conquer. Sun Tzu is correct. This has been going on for decades. And as long as we stay at each others throats, blame (any) President (as if they have power) then the cycle continues. A little band of miscreants (and yeah, they ARE little) that really thinks it has some power to do anything is a joke. It's never worked. And, but for France and rabid ineptitude of the British, a little band of miscreants would have failed oh so many years ago.

    THIS is why things will never change. It is precisely for beliefs like what you posted.
  • Farking Christ
    Yeah Right! They'll get right with the revolution as soon as they finish reading their Bible assignment, if they can find time between Bible studies. Of course Sunday is out because they have to attend services, and, after all it is almost Easter. You religibots are completely controlled by your church leaders who are paid by the Corporations to keep you in line and voting against your own good....You might as well die as you will never be free until you dump your religious masters and their evil religion, and we both know you'll never have the strength for that. Good luck with your pretend Revolution. Hahahaha
  • ctcadguy
    You will be paid a visit by big brother soon eneough.
  • Thomas Jefferson
    Transparentcy and Change!!! Yayyyy!!!
  • LIVE FREE OR DIE
    Obama=Bush. Two treasonists awaiting trial for treason against the citizens of the USA. Obama=Bush. Two treasonists who WILL BE EXECUTED FOR TREASON WHEN THEY ARE FOUND GUILTY OF TREASON.
    Obama=Bush Two NWO PUPPETS AWAITING THE GALLOWS.
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