There are many people in Ohio that want the same health care that our dear senators and congress people have. After all, if it is good enough for them to have now and the rest of their lives, it is good enough for me. I would like the same price they pay. Now that would make it short and sweet and to the point. Who could argue with that?

The discussion about health care reform is a farce. The real problem with healthcare is the rapidly escalating costs. Trying to forceably insure people is immoral and will only lead to greater costs and/or lower quality.

I am a sixty-six year old man. When I was a kid a doctor would come to my house for five dollars. People looked at health care very similar to that of groceries. People focused in on maintaining their health primarilly by diet and exercise.

When I was in my twenties and got a real job, I refused company subsidized health insurance because it was going to cost me about $20 per month. I only paid out $40 in a three year period prior to that position.

Medicare and Medicaid were passed as Great Society proposals of Lyndon Johnson. The AMA, which never supported socialized medicine before, supported these bills.

There support was based on their members getting more money than they were before. Medicare and Medicaid are headed towards insolvency. The reason is simple. The government takes in a huge amounts of money and the lobbyist promote legislation in order for them to get their share.


I had prostate cancer procedure where the seeds were implanted about eight years ago. The procedure was performed at an outpatient clinic of a major Atlanta hospital . Coincidentally my wife had worked for that hospital for several years and when she left she was a manager of hospice and home health. If anyone could get a good deal at that hospital it would have been someone like me.

My bill for the procedure was $19700 for four hours at the clinic of which only about one-half an hour was in the operating room. The reason for this absurdity is because Medicare must be the lowest paid provider. Therefor, no one else can offer a lower price.

I am a tropical fish hobbyist. My club runs a major auction twice a year. A doctor came to sell his saltwater tank and other equipment, because his practice was in rural Georgia. Medicare was paying him less than he could afford to stay in business. The pricing structure is lobbied for, rather than market driven


Strangely, lasik surgery prices are declining rather than increasing. The reason for this is that it is outside of the government's controlled market.

A community would rally to help a person who had really major medical needs before the existence of Medicare and Medicaid. Many doctors would cut their rates and even offer to provide services for free for the indigent. This was a very common practice prior to the government's intervention in the medical marketplace.

This country's government is trying to eliminate individual freedom and responsibility. That is the reason that this country was created.

I believe that the cost of medical services would drastically decline if Medicare and Medicaid were to be eliminated. The government is the cause of the problem, it is not the solution.

Asking the government to solve the problems that it creates is like asking the wolf to guard the henhouse. We all know what will happen.

I am not a democrat, republican, liberal or a conservative. I love this country for what it was created for. This was supposed to be a place where individuals could do anything that they wanted as long as they did not impede on the rights of others to do the same.

We need real change in this country. We need to change from this disastrous direction that we are heading in. All the government systems exists in order to benefit special interest groups. THe EPA exists to benefit the polluters. The FDA exists to benefit the big drug companies. The department of education exists to benefit the school teachers. The department of defense exists to benefit the military industrial complex. HUD, FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC exists to benefit the home builders and realtors. The FED exists to benefit the big banks.

Let's stop the nonsense. Let's eliminate these welfare programs and allow businessmen to decide how to allocate their money in a market driven economy.

Our strongest economic decade in the twentieth century was the first one. The economy was growing at 7%, unemployment averaged 2%, inflation hovered about 1% per year. There was virtually no anti-immigration laws.

The income tax and the FED were created in 1913. the U.S. was involved in WW I and within sixteen years of we had the Great Depression. The U.S. did not get out of the depression until after WW II. Many people were drafted and ended up dead. There was a shortage of man power in the factories during WW II, because of the lack of available men to work.

The moral and utilitarian arguements for national healthcare is ridiculous. Is it moral to use force in order to gain goals? Has any government program achieved their stated goals?

I believe that it is not moral to use force in order to achieve goals. I have never seen any government program that has succeeded to the level that the politicians said that they would.

Politicians are nothing but thugs. Politics is a zero sum game. They can not create wealth. They can only forceably redistribute it. A free country is based on voluntary association between people, not foce.

Whatever your reason...vote no, no, no on the health care bill!

We don't want it!

Look what Harry Reid Hid deep in the Health Care Bill.

Beginning on page 1000 of the measure, Section 3403 reads in part: "...it shall not be in order the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection..."

In other words, if President Barack Obama signs this measure into law, no future Senate or House will be able to change a single word of Section 3403, regardless whether future Americans or their representatives in Congress wish otherwise.

Note that the subsection at issue here concerns the regulatory power of the Independent Medicare Advisory Board (IMAB) to "reduce the per capita rate of growth in Medicare spending."

That is precisely the kind of open-ended grant of regulatory power that effectively establishes the IMAB as the ultimate arbiter of the cost, quality and quantity of health care to be made available to the American people. And Reid wants the decisions of this group of unelected federal bureaucrats to be untouchable for all time.

WAKE UP AMERICA

Look what Harry Reid Hid deep in the Health Care Bill

To Rep. Dennis Kucinich: I agree with you on just about every issue. And I get it. Move the thing ahead as far as you can but at the last minute, when it is time to cast the final vote, think of the 40 million who have no health care and do what you know is right!

Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Sure, this health care reform is not close to what is needed, but this is an advance. That's the history of nearly every piece of legislation. A victory sets the stage to improve it with future legislation and carry on the fight for universal health care, what ever form it will take.

The political balance of forces is not favorable at this moment to passage of single payer. But a defeat will surely spell defeat for Obama and the Democrats in 2010 and 2012. How will that help?

Kucinich needs to also think about his own constituency. I know his district well and there are many poor and low income families that would benefit from this bill, despite its obvious weaknesses.

Wow Dems are in for a big loss come election time

I think Kucinich is right about the public option, but I don't think Obama is responsible for ruining the bill. The Democratic party is just incapable of getting its act together -- or else genuinely broken along ideological lines. How can you be a member of the "progressive" party and be opposed to universal health care?! It's one of the fundamental values of liberal politics. It's not extremist or fringe. That the Democrats were unable to pull this together when they had a filibuster proof majority just tells me that the party does not universally stand for progressive ideals. We'd be free and clear right now if they had put on a united front and passed what Obama described as his initial goal. Instead they were forced to compromise and compromise until they were left with this crap. Now they have to pass it or they will lose all their remaining relevance in November. They need to cull the centrists or the lefties and start a new party, or they'll consistently be open to sabotage from the Repubs like this.

what a dick

Bravo! Kucinich is right on this one as usual. The medical insurance industry is as evil as the unconsitittuional Federal Reserve Bank. When these 2 major evils are put into the jnds of the people through thier own government, 90% of the problems plagueing our nation and by effect the world will have been solved.

Dennis, stick to your principles. Don't vote for this travesty. The only people who will benefit are those who own stock in Health Insurance and Pharmaceutical companies.

The only honorable man left in the senate. He is absolutely right.

Good for Mr. Kucinich. He appears to be the only congressman with any balls or brains. The insurance companies are practiced rapists. My premium has increased 100% in five years with NO CLAIMS! Does that seem right to you?

LOL, so he proudly admits he has been bought and paid for and is securely in the hip pocket of big medical. What a joke, its the American way!

Jess
www.real-anonymity.eu.tc

I have a solution pay cash for your medical bills..genious isnt it, that way you take the "greedy" insurance companies out of the loop, oh my God i could have went to Harvard with Barry..Debate over..

No common sense! If you don't have insurance, they won't even let you in the hospital. They won't even take you into emergency. How can you not know this? They won't let you pay cash. Maybe if you give them $20,000 upfront. But what if you don't happen to have that much, or you're in an accident, and unconscious, and can't get to your ATM? If they don't find an insurance card in your pocket, they'll leave you at the accident site or drop you at the morgue.

We do not want health care that includes insurance companies. Democrat or Republican -- they all feed off of hard working people. We do not know if President Obama is actually same as McCain would have been and whether or not we actually had a choice in the last election. Democrat or Republican they enrich themselves only. Thank God for the likes of Congressman Dennis Kucinich. Dennis, don't vote for the insurance company handout.. Why do we have a lot of money for WAR and a lot of money to hand out to Israel and yet we just will not take care of our family of citizens within our borders. Disgust.

I have to agree. As a Democrat I believe health care should be a right and not a privilege.

But this bill will kill the democrats.
You cannot force people to buy insurance without a public option. You cannot force people to pay hard earned money to the greedy private health insurance companies, that would be like forcing people to invest with Goldman Sachs.

Look at how the dems caved in on consumer protection, credit card reform, and now wall street reform. How could people possibly believe that they will somehow now get tough on regulating insurance when they can't even regulate there own party?

And to all the people who say "It's a good start, we can fix it later" I say Hahahaha, what a joke. We can't even fix the most important issues we face right now, how are we going to fix it later?
People compare it to Medicare and say it started small and got expanded and fixed later, but back then there were no lobbyists and congress was not all bribed and in the pockets of the wall street, health insurance, drug manufactures.

The only way the dems can succeed is to pass a public option or medicare buy-in that is truely open to the public.
Otherwise they are doomed and should let it get defeated, let everyone vote on the record and maybe in a few years as more and more people die and the rates go up and up we can blame the repubs and the bought and paid for dems and get real change.

Sorry president Obama but you should have fought harder and got this passed before last summer and all the tea bag crap started. You could have been many months ahead in trying to help the economy and the unemployed.
Dave

Americans are far too stupid to support anything Mr. Dennis J. Kucinich says.. they'll be pressured by the perception managers to run from him toward supposed Moderation and get enslavement via Corporatism as in Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

Thanks for trying Dennis!

Instead of putting the Affirmative Action Ass Clown in Chief on Mount Rushmore, they should put Kucinich's balls up there.

Still love ya, Dennis, but I think you are wrong this time. Go ahead and vote for this one.

Yea Dennis. This thing is not a half a loaf.
It is a half a cow. A half a cow can't live very long.
The humane thing to do is to put it out of its misery.
The Democrats and the Republicans had best understand
that the Tea-baggers and the lefty Progressives are both getting
really fucking fed up. A new paradigm may be coming together.
There is a faint possibility that we may still end up with a democracy in the
the end after all.

Kucinich knows what he's talking about. And people would be wise to listen to him and then get off their asses and tell their Congress members to get with the program. Our future really does depend on it.

Status Quobama's (*) Wealth Care Reform was a bad idea from the start and would be criminally tragic if passed, imposed and enforced.

If Kucinich sticks to his rhetorical guns, my respect for him would reach new levels.

But I'm not counting on it.

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(*) I did not vote for our liar-, thug- and thief-in-chief and those who did have a lot to answer for...

Like you, I hope and pray that Kucinich sticks to his guns. If he does, it will not only be the right and courageous and ballsy and brilliant thing to do for all of us, but the smartest thing he can do for his own political career. He will not be under anyone's political radar anymore! I stopped being a Democrat when they wouldn't let him into the presidential debates. And now even Bernie Sanders is taking shots at Dennis! He was just quoted today as saying something on the order of 'Dennis sees the world differently than the rest of us'. Shame on you, Bernie! Vote No, Dennis!

Slap me. I deserve it. I voted for O-blah-ma.

...but if I had voted for Ole John and Sarah...
I would have deserved two slaps...Right?

Kucinich is always right. He is the sole legislator I trust to tell me whether a bill is in the best interests of me, my family, my community and real decency towards other humans than CEO's on wall street and elsewhere.

Dennis was my first choice....but he had no chance.
He is a man of the people, but the people mean nothing
in this vile and corrupt system that masquerades as a democracy.

Kucinich 2012! No more Bush, No more Bush Lite.

The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.

In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."

— Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928
Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."

— Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983

These are bogus quotes.

I trust Kucinich.

Don't let them convince you this is true reform. It is a sell out that, once again, pays out even more money to the insurance thugs by rewarding the HMO's with mandatory participation. If the HMO's were were sincere then they would already cover these uninsured at a reasonable rate, and they would already accept preexisting conditions.

Don't cave in now. If we deny this "reform" the current system will explode under decreasing participation and escalating costs, leaving the only sensible option to adopt...the public option.

If there's a requirement to buy insurance, there must be at least a robust public option. The rest won't matter, because all the tit for tat gains will be rolled into premiums.

Kucinich is right. He's always been right and boy would he be a better president than the one we have now--"Ol' Bait 'n' Switch Obama." Sure he's done some good things but . . .

I still keep hoping that he (Obama) is not just a total dork...and that he
was just too irrationally confident and bit off more than he could chew.
But right now he's sinking down there and he doesn't seem much better
than the Pope. He's still slightly better than Bush though....I think.

Thank you Dennis..You speak for me...It is a shame that our congress has so many republican ideas to pass, but nothing for the people.. Be it republican dems or republican that only serve the rich while raping the poor and working class of our taxes.the shame continues... I know Obama will not talk to progressives but you sir have courage tp stand up for us..Thank you..

GO KUCHI!

KUCINICH/PAUL in 2012!

THE GNOME TICKET!

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CORPORATE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX READIES FOR WIN-WIN WEALTH CARE OUTCOME

-- Corporate Giveaway Will Either Be Voted Into Law, Or Everything Remains Exactly The Same --

-- Huge Corporatist Profits-Over-People To Continue Unabated Via Two-Party Myth, No Matter What --
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Under this bill you can't be dropped because you have a preexisting condition, but there's nothing in it to prohibit them from jacking up your premium so you can't afford it, effectively dropping you because of a preexisting condition, except you can't drop the insurance because you're required to have health insurance. Mandate with no public option. Total bullshit, Kucinich is right, to hell with Democrats if they pass this. (Except Kucinich and the few other good ones)

Alot of morphing going on lately.......Obama into Bush and now Kucinich into Nader.

Umm, in the latter case, is that so bad > ?

As if I would believe any dem who promised, or "pledged" to support a robust public option after I vote to re-elect them. The only way I would place any trust in that statement would be if they signed a legally binding contract stipulating that they would resign from office within 6 months of the election if they did not vote in favor of it. They would never, ever do that.

So dems, if your campaign strategy involves using the words "Trust me", then you'd better start packing you your shit for when you move out of office at the end of the year.

Kucinich is a REAL American hero. Too bad this nation of TV addicted passive consumers fails to recognize his willingness to fight for...us!!!!!

oh well..I think a repeat of "Fraiser" is on at 8:00pm tonight.

Kucinich just doesn't want Limbaugh to leave the country.

The Obama WH cannot comprehend how progressives could oppose them on anything because it flies in the face of their self-avowed "brilliant" DLC strategy of moving ever further to the right, undercutting Rethuglicans and dragging true Dems along by the hair kicking and screaming.

This has been going on now for nearly two decades and to date it has "worked" as a tactic for latching onto power. It has pushed Rethuglicans into right wing lala land and they clearly don't have a rational response.

As a long term strategy however it has been a disaster. Instead of educating a generation of Americans about citizen activism as a means to a better life, it has turned democracy on its head, institutionalized Corporate power, demonized citizen activism, and turned the electoral process into a profit-driven three-ring circus.

When I see someone like Kucinich standing up against the Rahm Emanuel's running this country into the ground I want to jump up and cheer - finally someone gets it!

peace,
Paul

Dennis Kucinich is the man. Fuck the bought and paid for democrats and republicans.

Go Kucinich!!

Something is no better than nothing, when the supposed something is actually nothing.

It's worse than nothing. Like Dennis says, it's a giveaway to the insurance companies.

no nothing is often better than the something you get-ever been in a dysfunctional relationship or wonder why abused people stay with their abusers? That is what this bill is asking us to do. Bend over and like it!
RR

Kucinich is right. Too bad most voters are too stupid to realize it.

Kucinich is right, but most voters are not too stupid to realize. They just aren't hearing the truth. I do not share your defeatist stance.

I believe you are naive. As Mulder said, "The Truth is out there" but you have to sometimes look for it. Laziness excuses no one.

hm, never been referred to as naive. Pragmatic maybe.

Endeavor to become more misanthropic, you will be less disappointed, and often closer to reality.

-Much love,
Cynica

Hang in there Dennis! This bill is NOT the relief people have been waiting for. It is just a money grab by the insurance companies. Save us from their thievery!

Damn right Kucinich!
The bill's so heavily compromised it's worthless.

Vote it down, go back to the drawing board and draft something we can be proud of.

I think we are all in agreement that the current Bill is not Reform. Something I do not understand, if our Healthcare quality is #19 on a list of developed nations, why not borrow elements from the TOP 3 Healthcare models that are our there today with their disadvantages and advantages known and proven. Why create something NEW that has unforeseen loopholes? Unless that is the point, to secure Corporate profits...

We can't learn from other nations because they're all "socialist" ... gasp!!!! No, that would be too easy. America has to re-invent the wheel in order to appease the Gods of Capitalism and keep the offering plates full.

Capitalism-American-Style is going to kill us all.

You are exactly right. But we always think we can be more clever than the rest of the world here in America. It's not working out so well for us lately.

I do not agree with Kucinich. This topic will not come up again for decades. Right or wrong, that is how it is. We have been trying since Teddy Roosevelt to reform health care.
That would be the late 1800s!

What possible good could come from this? It totally plays into the hands of the Repubs.
Dennis knows better. No matter what many posters say, we have to play the game we are in, not the game we wish we could play. I'm sorry, but that is how it is. No one wins if nothing passes. Think long term. That is how Social Security and Medicare was passed. Only after it initially passed, were needed changes possible. Get the picture? We can do the same thing with the Health Care Reform Bill. But if nothing passes, we get zip, zero, nada. I don't want zip, zero, nada. No matter how you want to put it, Americans are dying because of us doing nothing. I do not want the death of Americans to be related to those of us who didn't get exactly what we wanted.

Americans are dying because of corporate greed, not because of citizens demanding a public option.

I beg to differ, the reason that Americans are dieing is because they put their faith in the medical system, that is a monopoly of it's self. A few lucky souls actually walk out of hospitals and live normal lives, majority do not. Social Security was a hoax to generate more revenue for the Federal Goverment. People need to learn how to take care of themselves, Stop asking for help from the goverment, THATS not what they are there for. Keep them out of our lives. To hell will this Health Care Bill. Stay out of our lives.

Publicly funded health care is a justifiable reason for federal taxes. I already pay a lot for private health care, I want to pay less for a public option. Eliminate the greedy middleman and costs go down. Comprehensive health care cannot be delivered under a "for profit" model.
The Insurance thugs already know this as they increasingly deny coverage to previously ill/injured customers.

Christ, this is EXACTLY what the government is for. Otherwise, why have a government? We pay taxes to have things like roads, schools and police protection. Why shouldn't we have health care, too, instead of bailouts for corporations and endless wars?

I love people like you who seem to think everyone should just slog it on their own. "Stop asking for help from the government! Help yourself!"

Fine, then. Go ahead and pave your own roads. Give your kids a K-12 education while holding down a full-time job. Fight off intruders and muggers and pursue your own justice when you are victimized. Try putting out your own house if it catches on fire. You shouldn't have a problem with any of this, after all . . . people need to care for themselves!

----------Christ, this is EXACTLY what the government is for. Otherwise, why have a government? We pay taxes to have things like roads, schools and police protection.------------------

Gas tax, and property tax. Want to spin again?

Dennis is an honest man working for the good of the nation. That is why he cannot in good conscience support this horrible deal.
This latest swindle from Obama, the servant of all things Republican and right wingy, is an insult to every American. The only people who want this piece of crap passed are health care lobbyists and Democratic party hacks.

"This topic will not come up again for decades."

True if this piece of shit bill passes. If it doesn't, the issue will come back soon.

I think you are part of the reason this country has settled for so much crap. Social security is broke. It sounded like a good idea, until the government began stealing from it. So don't tell me it turned out for the better. I will not receive my Social Sec. money that I have put in by the time I retire. It will have gone to paying debts and for wars. We will demand what we want and stop bowing down to our leaders' wishes. Stop settling. Your undying loyalty to the Dem. Party is hurting this country, you follow their orders "right or wrong, that is how it is". Nothing has been fixed in this country and if healthcare gets voted in nothing still will be fixed. If the death of Americans bothers you, ponder how much of your income tax goes to buying those pretty little missiles on predator drones which have killed so many citizens (with the proportion of tax money spent on war, you're at least responsible for one death) ;-p

I can barely afford my health insurance now and the gangsters that run my health insurance company want to gouge me more. And I have almost never used that insurance for anything! It should work like car insurance, if you don[t make a wreck of your body you get a much lower rate. Call it a "safe liver" discount.

And I support Kucinich. If the US can't provide single payer or Medicare for everyone then the US is "too big to exist."

Good for him. This travesty of a health care overhaul is nothing like a public option, it simply enslaves Americans to the vile parasites that run the for-profit "insurance" companies. Anything that does not give control over health care pricing to the public & shuts out the for-profits, is nothing more than the Democrats being bought off by the overly wealthy animals that slobber and feed over the carcasses of our people, and call themselves "CEO's".
You people can roll over and bow in front of these monsters, if you want, but I'd rather take up my guns and physically fight against this inhumanity, no matter who gets hurt.
Try and force me to do business with this filth, and someone is going to die.

The only person in Washington with BALLS. You go, Dennis!

I heard Dennis Kucinich on KO's Countdown yesterday...Sam Stein told Lawrence O'Donnell that Congressman's stood "all alone" in his resistance to this Senate bill that Obama is trying to push...(why doesn't Obama back the House bill ?(with the public option) or why won't Obama support the public option through reconciliation?) I got news for Sam Stien...Congressman Kucinich does not stand all alone.....there is a huge number of progressive Democrats who are standing with Kucinich...but Rahm Emanuel, President Obama, Blue-Dogs and their Health Insurance "campaign donors" think progressive just don't matter....(gonna be big miscalculation on their part come election time)...I always thought Dennis Kucinich was the clear progressive choice..and exactly why the DLC and their Corporate news buddies had to get rid of him in a smear and ridicule campaign...he would have taken Corporations on, fought and won...."Damn the torpedos...! full speed ahead..!"

Once these insurance companies have their hooks in each and every American they will never let go - this bill will cripple the lower and middle class while enriching the insurance companies to new levels (it's great that they can't deny you but they can charge you $10,000 a month and you must pay it).

This bill kills single payer.

This bill will keep American leading in the race to the bottom.

This bill will continue the bastardization of the Founders plans and push the dreams of the corporatists into a solid and unchangeable reality.

I agree 200%. What happens to people that are older, have pre-existing conditions and MUST purchase insurance. That MUST is the key - it doesn't also say that Insurance MUST cost the same for these people as it does for the young and healthy.

This is not like requiring someone to purchase Car insurance - there you have a choice not to have a car if you find yourself in a tight economy or just can't budget it. With health insurance you will have to pay whether you have the money. Goodbye economy when people have no disposable income because they are paying for Health Insurance Coverage.

it's not good bye economy... they will mandate purchases - and mandate that they must be made at large corporations ("Walmart" rather than "Dave's consignment shop" "McDonalds" rather than "Dave's Burrito shack") then they will mandate that you spend 120% of your gross earnings a year or they will throw you in jail (not a state run jail but a for profit corporate owned jail) the gov't is proving that they can continue to make corporations rich even when the country is the poorest in the world and the people continue to get poorer...

and they keep lowering the bottom so the race will never end...

Kucinich is right, with out the public option this health care bill is crap. Obama took 15 million from the health care sector. We lost the public option when Obama jumped into bed with the insurance companies.


Norman Grant Hilt

The Democrats fucked this up big time. They have no one to blame but themselves. We all suffer because of their ankle grabbing for corporate money. Dennis is right and I am one of the millions who desperately need insurance reform. A Republican administration would never have bowed to the minority party like the fake Democrats.

LET'S FIX THIS MESS

Objectives
Make elected representatives answer to the electorate.
Remove corporate influence from all levels of public governance

Suggested Goals to Accomplish These Objectives
Publicly fund elections
Eliminate corporate person-hood
Initiate instant runoff voting
Eliminate electoral college
Ban exiting public officials from accepting lobbyist positions
Oversight of the Federal Reserve
Tax reformation
Budget reformation

Citizen Actions to Accomplish These Objectives
Strengthen and expand alternate media
Infiltrate existing party systems to affect changes
Exploit current means to pressure representatives
Prepare, support, and run Liberal/Progressive candidates


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