No joke: South Carolina now requires ’subversives’ to register

By Daniel Tencer
Friday, February 5th, 2010 -- 11:49 am

southcarolinacapitol No joke: South Carolina now requires subversives to registerFive-dollar registration fee for persons planning to overthrow US government

Terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions -- or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison.

The state's "Subversive Activities Registration Act," passed last year and now officially on the books, states that "every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State."

There's even a $5 filing fee.

By "subversive organization," the law means "every corporation, society, association, camp, group, bund, political party, assembly, body or organization, composed of two or more persons, which directly or indirectly advocates, advises, teaches or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States [or] of this State."

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A PDF of the registration form can be found here, courtesy of FitsNews.

The law also gives subversive organizations "subject to foreign control" 30 days to register with the state after setting up shop in South Carolina.

While the intention of the law is apparently aimed at Islamic terrorists, it's unclear in the law's wording whether it can be applied to right-wing militias, some of whom have reputedly called for the overthrow of the US government. The law states that "fraternal" and "patriotic" groups are exempt from the law, but only if they don't "contemplate the overthrow of the government."

While the law is clearly redundant -- there are plenty of statutes at the state and federal level through which terrorists can be prosecuted -- it reflects a not-uncommon pattern in some states of "doubling down" against particular crimes.

For instance, South Carolina is among those states which require drug dealers to declare their illegal income, or face additional criminal penalties on top of the already established penalties for buying, possessing and selling drugs.

The South Carolina blog FitsNews describes the new law as "bureaucracy for terrorists."

"In the long and storied history of utterly retarded legislation in South Carolina, we may have finally found the legal statute that takes the cake for sheer stupidity, which we think you’ll agree is saying something," the unsigned blog posting scathingly commented.

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  • carsondlauffer
    This is a silly story. Don't you guys report on anything else? Registering subversives makes as much sense as most of the things we are doing regarding terrorists and illegal aliens. It can't be any less effective.
  • Drik
    I probably need to register, because I intend to overthrow the government and replace it with at constitutional republic.
  • Harp
    Sweet! Where do I sign up? I wonder if we can do registration drives, like they do with voters... get everyone in S. Carolina to sign up!
  • mikewadestr
    I wonder if there is a lot of mercury in the food and water of South Carolina. I have never heard anything so retarded coming out of a state assembly.
  • Carson
    So when do they start arresting the Democrats for not registering?
  • AndesOwl
    Clearly South Carolinan's are mental retards to have elected the mentally incapable into a position of power. If they reflect the mentality of the rest of the United States, it is no wonder that an illegal alien now poses as President and Commander in Chief! As a Brit, all I can say is GOD HELP AMERICA!
  • marycrawford
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!! IS THIS WHAT WE ARE PAYING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO COME UP WITH!!!! LET ME SEE NOW, IF I WERE A DRUG DEALER OR A WOULD BE TERRIOREST, HUMMMMMM.... SHOULD I OR SHOULD I NOT REGISTER MYSELF WITH THE STATE AS A DRUG DEALER OR A WOULD BE TERROREST??????? THAT IS THE QUESTION!!!!!
  • stuartis
    Lets get it right "its not "law" it's corporate legislation that's a fiction! The law gives rise to a fiction, a fiction doesnt not give rise to "The Law"

    All corporation is a "fiction" and a fiction or coporation cannot bring a claim against a live being, nor can a contract be forced!
  • I guess the South Carolina government has never heard of the Declaration of Independence. To me, this legislation is Nazi, fascist, communist: totalitarian. It is completely unamerican and those who proposed and passed it should be brought up for TREASON against the United States and the Constitution. Here's some quotes for the fascist tard-bots:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” —The Declaration of Independence

    “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.” —Abraham Lincoln

    This Abraham and anyone who supports that declaration thing, by this legislation, should have to pay the State or incriminate themselves. These SC government people are unamerican trash!!!
  • Contemplating overthrowing the government? Please fill in form & pay $5.
  • GlobalWarner
    Thomas Jefferson warned against empowering the Gov. out of fear.
    Hitler used this same tactic of having groups register before bearing his real fangs.
  • Oh now ya done it. You used the word retarded. Sarah Palin is gonna be pissed and Rush Limbaugh will have to quote your story so that the liberal press can mistakenly call for his dismissal for using the word that he is only quoting.......
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  • I wrote this song for the SC Subversives and how they can cure themselves !
    Here's the song ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o88SpL9rKhc
  • GET YOUR GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY GOVERNMENT-OVERTHROWING SEIZING ASSEMBLY: http://bit.ly/bhqr4i
  • Turns out this story is incorrect, the law they're talking about was passed in 1951, not last year, and a lot of states had laws like this during that time period. There is a bill being run through right now to repeal it, though it looks like they tried to repeal it in 1993 but that bill didn't get anywhere.

    Oh, and in 1957 the SCOTUS ruled against laws like this in Yates v. United States, 354 U.S. 298, so this law is unenforcable anyway.
  • Ed Faber
    EVERYBODY should register. Since according to the Department of Homeland DROOLERS, ANYONE who is a veteran, is literate, Who believes in the Constitution, is a POTENTIAL TERRORIST, then EVERYONE should register (withholding the fee of course). It is your AMERICAN DUTY to register as a SUBVERSIVE, the Founding Fathers would certainly have qualified. As a matter of FACT, anyone who does NOT reigister should be SUSPECT ............. as ANTI-American.
  • Regina
    I think our founding fathers would NOT register. They took up their own arms (yes they provided their own guns to overthrow the British soldiers, yes they knew how to shoot), they passed along plans by word of mouth (amazing, they did this without the internet), and after defeating the British, a new government was formed precisely to put reins on government. They distrusted ALL government. I want to remind the posters on this forum that government has no money of its own. "Government" is a thing. It spends what it takes from the people. The US is bankrupt. Its money now resembles the continental dollar. Wake up America. The leaders that have been elected for the last several elections have bankrupted the United States and purposely debased the value of American money. Please have a look at this site: http://americanhistory.si.edu/coins/printable/c...
    America, what is under the value of the money you use now? I hope that my fellow Americans out there who are reading this will have a serious thought about this. It is not a flippant comment. Who actually owns a chunk of America because of American debt?
    Our founding fathers reserved the right to overthrow government that was not for what was in the interest of the people. Of course they organized. Of course they were subversive- against tyrenny and excessive taxation. They would be horrified at the Federal Reserve system and the taxation over citizens today. America its time to wake up. I hope you rise up and elect new representatives all over America, in every state from city to federal level who are willing to put your financial house back in order and protect your FREEDOMS. Bankruptcy sucks, but when you have lost all your freedom, of thought, to move about, how will you get it back? Wake Up.
  • Abe
    Finally. Think of all the revenue they'll get when everyone in the state who has a Confederate flag has to pay a fine. Good move.
  • Arnonerik
    This is not a dumb idea at all. Remember most mobsters jailed by the government were convicted on charges of not reporting or paying taxes on their criminal "profits". Nobody expected gangsters to report to the tax authorities prior to arrest but it was a charge the Feds could make that would stick in court.
  • robertshrewsbury
    All of these new laws is what happens when the ones you have are not enforced!
    It is also just another way for legal criminals to have more hiding places within the law and for more tax theft. Jobs need to be generated by producing real tangible sellable products of value. Otherwise inflation ensues and the people are again robed.
  • Anonymous
    Well, I live in SC... I'm totally registering as a subversive... Way to turn protest in to filling out a piece of paper and sending 5 bucks! The best part, it makes it that much harder to sort through real work that deals with real problems.
  • Sam
    I think it's a great idea. Here's a short list of who would have to register: The Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Federal Reserve, Green Cross International, Global Green USA. From another perspective, given the decidedly Marxist flavor of our federal and state governments, maybe all Americans should register.
  • Mihail
    "The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.

    In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."

    — Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928
  • Regina
    Mihail, I've sat on your post, not replying at first because I didn't know how to respond intelligently or respectfully because of how I felt after I read it. Hey, I still might not be the most intelligent, but I will try to be respectful to you. Horrible things have been said by rulers or wanna be rulers for thousands of years. A Jewish man or men do not have the corner on poor leadership. Most of the terrible things that are said by corporate leaders, political leaders, and the criminals in the streets are not recorded. I strongly object to what you posted because by posting this quote, you have implied that the world leadership will turn to self interest and harm to the worlds population because of people of the Jewish faith.
    This is not true Mihail. Every lousy leadership this world has ever had is because of unprincipled, selfish, prejudiced, sometimes crazy, and evil hearted people of all colors and faiths (remember Rwandan Patriotic Front and the slaughter that took place there in the butcher of Tutsis? Save and channel your desire for good leadership for your vote. Be respectful and protective of people that you see suffering, no matter where they come from or what their faith is. This writer believes that we were all made by only one God. There is no other. We don't represent his character well when we hate who he has created. We become a disgrace to his name when we call ourselves by it and behave the opposite.
  • Larry
    I assume that all politicians of every stripe in South Carolina have already registered. And if not, let's arrest them! What a great way to inaugurate administration of this law!

    Wheeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Shanus
    You have to be shitting me...
  • Conservo
    Of course, that must mean our Federal Government will have to register. All three legs have been subversive to our constitution for years. This also will include the main stream media. Right?
  • bsudduth
    Just curious - did the state and/or federal gov'ts have to pay $5 when they subversively usurp power for themselves as opposed to just using what is granted them under the US and SC constitutions
  • sir Hem of Rhoid
    I can't believe the level of absolute ignorance in these forums. Most wouldn't know a revolution if it were going on in their own home. Common sense is shunned in this modern USA, and look at the shape were in. South Carolina seems to recognize what 50% of the "boobtube generation" masses don't see is going on...a coup.Your very Constitution is completely dwarfed in executive orders and the "patriot" bill! Yet you see nothing wrong. Your leader is virtually UNKNOWN and has tripled the govt. spending when he promised to cut it. Increased the war effort when he promised "to end it immediately"..You see nothing wrong. Your leaders are (in broad daylight) printing and throwing away more money at ANY and ALL potential "money pits" aka: "good crisis's" they can find and you see nothing wrong. Your money is spent and now they are wrecking your credit...you see nothing wrong. YOUR COUNTRY IS BEING LIQUIDATED AND YOU SEE NOTHING WRONG!!! Breaking a great nation 101, "you spend all its money"
    IF you people posses any intellect at all, you will pick up a good US History book and educate yourself. The war of Freedom and Communism has never ended. It's not discussed and if it is the Freedom loving Patriots are ridiculed and mocked by the Communist side with their power and influence of the Mainstream Media (corporate news) aka:govt. propaganda. This accompanied by the flouridated, brainwashed minds of the masses aka: "useful idiots" is a mode of warfare seen in the communist handbook of Saul Alinski. The only way to win this as ANY war is to recognize who/what the enemy is/are. South Carolina has done that and now they can begin to remove the communist, anti-American teachers out of the Universities, all state govt. offices and rid themselves of the Anti-American groups like ACORN and CAIR...and hopefully TN will join them. Im sick of the left wing loon communist ruining our system and creating all their laws through the communist infested corrupt bureaucracies like EPA,FDA,MSHA,OSHA and DHS. Created for the purpose's of money/power/control. Our healthcare is in shambles because of the FDA and bogus judges awarding malpractice suits in astronomical amounts. FDA approved drugs in last 2 yrs have resulted in 500,000 deaths and supplements/vitamions 0 deaths yet John Mccain just introduces bill that will virtually eliminate them through FDA...WHY? Could it be that he's a sellout as well? I THINK SO! Your mind needs nutrients to think properly so to "dumb you down" all they do is rob your minds. McDonalds is not the place to build a great mind! Yet you raise you children there. South Carolina is showing us a way...a way to take back our country.
  • jerry rose
    sir Hem
    You have a decent grasp of situation, but what about a contingency plan?
    I tire of intellectualizing problems without a fair focus on devising viable alternatives.
    (Though I'm not inferring this of your posting...only as a general observation.)
    It's evident the incumbent Government seeks to perpetualize its self beyond the authorization provided by the US Constitution...now what?
  • Bob
    You are retarded.
  • IDIC
    Seems so obvious, doesn't it? Well said, and sadly all too true.
  • Dr. Strangelove
    >This accompanied by the flouridated, brainwashed minds of the masses"

    General Ripper, your golf bag and machine gun are in the corner.
  • Regina
    Our founding fathers are screaming from their graves. Hey I guess England missed passing this law before the colonists took up arms against them. Including my own ancestors.
    They thought any government that was unjust ought to be overthrown and they spilled their own blood over it, lost horses, homes, land and even investment over it thanks to the worthless continental dollars. Gee, are they patriots or terrorists? The US dollar isn't worth a continental now.
  • Larry
    Preparation H will stop you from being such a pain in the ass. You should try the industrial strength tube.
  • iamanole2
    You do understand of course, that you now need to register with South Carolina don't you?
  • PatriotVinTN
    A state with a plan! South Carolina has begun!!! THIS is where Im moving to!! They are going to begin eradicating the communist's out of their fine state.. TRUE PATRIOTS! We need to bring this back ESPECIALLY IN WASHINGTON!!! AL GORELIONI and his MOB attempting to CONTROL THE WORLD through "climate legislation" aka: knee-"cap and trade", kneecapping the business industry to a point of bankruptcy, ushering in hyper-inflation their plan is evil to the core and all for "global domination". Obama aka: Fraudulent Obowa and his alliances need to be known. His real name would be a good start!
  • Will members of "The Family" and other Christian Dominionist groups have to register?
  • highhighbigmouthkayzia
    Isn't advocating the "violent overthrow of the U.S. Government" considered felony sedition?
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