Soldier reportedly holds daughter’s head underwater for failing to recite alphabet

By John Byrne
Monday, February 8th, 2010 -- 8:58 am

waterboarding demons Soldier reportedly holds daughters head underwater for failing to recite alphabetA 27-year-old Washington state soldier allegedly admitted Sunday to having held his daughter's head in a bowl of water because she couldn't recite the alphabet.

British newspapers labeled the technique "waterboarding," in reference to the CIA torture measure the Bush Administration employed against terror suspects, though in actuality, waterboarding technically involves covering the individual's face with fabric and pouring water over the nose and mouth to simulate drowning.

The soldier, Joshua Tabor, reportedly told police that he "submerged her face three or four times until the water was lapping around her forehead and jawline."

He allegedly told police he'd chosen a water-based technique because his daughter was terrified of water.

Tabor was arrested after being seen in his neighborhood in a Tacoma suburb wearing a Kevlar helmet and threatening to break windows.

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His girlfriend told police that the girl had been found in a closet with bruising on her back and scratch marks on her neck and throat.

In reply to a question about how she got the scratches, the girl purportedly replied: 'Daddy did it.'

Tabor had recently won custody of his four-year-old daughter. Her birth mother lives in Kansas. The daughter's name was not released.

Police did not identify where Tabor had served abroad during his military service. He was stationed at the Lewis-McChord base in Tacoma, Washington.

Editor's note: The article has been re-headlined for accuracy, as the process was not technically waterboarding.

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  • milton
    I guess we can ask, did the military let this “mental deficient” into their ranks or did they make this normal guy in this “mental deficient”. Even Ronald Reagan said that water boarding was torture, but I guess Cheney and his gay daughter are the brain trust on this lie that has been perpetuated onto the American people and signed off by the GOP.
  • m.
    I cant seem to find his picture anywhere but iyou know if he were over 40 it would be all over the place.
  • blind eye
    Wow. This is what you get when you put mentally vulnarable people into military indoctrination and brainwash them into a system of violence. We should not be surprised by this.
  • normanx
    Meth is a very dangerous drug that ruins people.
  • BuckJohnson
    This man should never be around children anymore, period. He's an abuser more likely well before he came back from war. It just made him more predatory to things and people that can't fight back. He should lose his child permanently because in a relationship you have to trust that the individual/father/spouse won't hurt or kill you once you go back to them. Just saying that you'll do better isn't enough and sometimes will never be enough. Alot of these individuals have issues and shouldn't be responsible for other people, thats a major responsibility. When you fail at that you essentially had your shot at being a parent. That may sound cruel, but imagine what that 4 year old girl or any small child was going through having to deal with a large parent that was hurting them. The child isn't a window or a broken watch or an inanimate object, she and others are living beings and you just can't say Aww Chucks I'm sorry I won't do it again I swear.

    He had a choice, and his choice was to shove her face into water in order to illicit fear and reinforced fear of water and make her do something. You know, I'll do harm to you if you don't do what I say.
  • Kathy
    That poor little girl. Is she being helped? I don't give a damm about her horrible father- except how awful must her mom be to have lost custody to him?

    I've been thinking about offering to be a foster parent. Now I shall follow thru on it.
  • Ralph
    I volunteer to put a bullet in this fuckwad's head!
  • walt
    so you suggest capitol punishment for someone who is most assuredly suffering from a mental disorder brought on by a war this country waged? i wonder what type of person would write something like that? many men and women are returning from the hell holes we helped create and you want them executed instead of treated before they can damage others. bush cheney rumsfield powel and rice need to be prosecuted. and all their co conspirators.
  • Dolphyn
    Okay, the headline has been fixed, but there's still a waterboarding photo which seems to be unrelated to the story. Isn't the story disturbing enough already?
  • gr0o
    Jesus Christ, how bad was the Mother that someone likely suffering PTSD got custody?
  • JakeW83
    And they are all coming back to get jobs as cops...
  • disgusted
    Sounds like attempted murder by drowning, not waterboarding.

    Poor kid, afraid of water? Gee I wonder why...
  • Tyroanee
    Good luck getting this girl to take a bath again... this person is a rabid animal.
  • vince j
    That is because I've seen pictures of dead children in the countries I mentioned above. All killed by the US.
    "Early in the morning in the other side of the globe"... The whole world is ware of what the US is doing! Shame on you! And thought ObaOba was going to "try" to "restore" the US's image... we got "short changed"...
  • kelly
    Hey xtophera
    You're a Fucking Asshole.
  • vince j
    Before I feel sorry for a north american soldier who probably kill inocents, most likely commited war crimes, has been in Abu Garihb or Bagram or some secret site (Despite the empty word from the War Crminal in chief), is part of an illegal occupation, I fell sorry for the Afegahn, Pakistan, Irqui, Palestinians, Hodurean, Hatian, etc peoples, who have their lives made miserable by the US. So stories like that... I don't feel sorry for the soldier nor his miserable daugther. That is because I'see pictures of dead children in the countries I mentioned above. All kill by the US.
  • Thomas G Williams
    EFF OFF & DIE VINCE J you are a RETHUGLICAN with a partisan ax to grind and probably white as you so clearly HATE OBAMA as your previous posting show, STOP BLAMING OBAMA FOR THE CRIMES OF G DUBYA BUSH and the RETHUGLICAN/BAGGER PARTY
  • suzisunshine
    another prime example of the wisdom of the courts.
  • vince j
    Well... waterboard in the US is still used despite the War Crmininal Obama's empty worlds. Worse, it seems that is a crime that is not punished by law... that is what you get...
  • PeteWa
    how the hell did this nutjob win custody - is the mom really worse?
  • thx1138
    .
    COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE SUCCESSFULLY PERFORMS SIMULATED PARENTING

    -- Brave U.S. Soldier Uses Military Training To Focus On Family And Help Spread Literacy --

    -- Joshua Tabor Promoted, Recruited Into CIA, Becomes Instructor At "School of the Americas" --
    .
  • donrus
    You have important job talent in this rotten economy. Many spin rooms are just waiting for you. Your headlines made me laugh out loud.
  • jgmurphy
    If we can all agree that this is abusive (and I think we can!), then how is it NOT a violation of the Geneva Conventions to do to prisoners?????
  • Satan
    "Tabor was arrested after being seen in his neighborhood in a Tacoma suburb wearing a Kevlar helmet and threatening to break windows."

    If you ever feel like some dangerous entertainment, you can see this same deal driving by Fort Lewis on I-5. You'll see lost of retarded soldiers driving like shit and obviously thinking about shoving their daughters face in water for not being able to recite their abc's because their daughter is afraid of water (I wonder why). You'll see a bunch of arrogant punk assholes threatening every driver they come across and behaving like it's their right to throw a tantrum on the freeway, garanteed.

    Then again, that's what these fucktards are trained to do, deal with problems via a violent temper tantrum, and that's why these losers are going to lose the war in Afghanistan too, because they're losers.

    "This is why failing to recite the alphabet should be a law enforcement issue, not military." - Kevlar helmet not enough?

    "Yet another misleading headline from Raw. A horrible thing to do to a child but it was not waterboarding. " - Yeah, you can't drown when being waterboarded, now go hold your head underwater for a few hours.
  • robertfromphila
    Yep, this guy is of sound mind. I think I can make a reasonable inference that this guy was not off the charts when he joined the military, so what happened? In his case, we, the public don't know, but I'm sure the Army does. How many times, for how long, in what capacity, what did this guy experience, was he identified and treated, or denied or discouraged from treatment? What did the army know and what did they do about it? This is not a rare instance anymore, and if we continue to use and abuse our soldiers by continued longterm combat assignments, then we must care for these guys psychological well being and for that of their innocent families. This is the result of Bush/Cheney expeditionary military diplomacy. Not good for the country, not good for society, and not rational!
  • robertsfinnegan
    Given his age I would say he has been in Iraq or Afghanistan, perhaps multiple tours and still in thanks to the back-door draft "Stop Loss." Every single statistic generated by the war criminals Bush/Cheney was a lie, from casualty numbers (not counting the dead unless they died on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan) to the number of criminals given "Moral Waivers" and recruited from prisons.

    While this soldier's behavior is deplorable and unacceptable it is indeed indicative of combat-generated insanity and PTSD. He needs help, and it is now incumbent upon the Obama administration to right the wrongs of the previous criminal regime at least with regard to our veterans.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/articl...

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/articl...

    Robert S. Finnegan
    United States Marine Corps
    rsfinnegan@gmail.com
    Jakarta, Indonesia
  • dennycrane
    ....and probably one of those christers, thinking about the crusades.
  • disappointedvoter
    Thank you, George Bush.
  • This is a complete failure of reporting,. Thanks, second paragraph!
  • Disgusted
    I guess we could call this an enhanced parenting technique.
  • margaretpoa
    This is why we shouldn't even be debating torture. Does anyone think this moron would have thought of this all on his own if it hadn't been debated in the Village Media and called euphamisms like "enhanced interrogation"?
  • robertsfinnegan
    They were recruited BECAUSE they are morons. At this time in our history, the government WANTS brain-dead rejects from both our trashed education system and society as they are the easiest to brainwash (train). Most of these unfortunates are the products of broken homes and/or trailer-trash parents, they were always beat-up in school - just like the police recruits - and are now going to show those civilians who is the boss! In years past, most of them would not have made it past the recruiter's door, and they were required to have a high school education or GED to enlist.

    Instead, they enter a world bereft of individual action or thought and are programmed to kill or make crappy chow on command, sit up, roll over, "play" dead. Hard enough to attempt a deprogramming on a soldier with an average IQ, it is impossible with these unfortunate brain-dead robots. And to think they joined the military to "get an education or money for college." HA! The almost non-existent "college benefit" will pay for approximately two (2) semesters of college, and you have to survive multiple deployments and match the funds to cash in on that bonanza!

    An extensive program to address their needs both medical and psychological should be put in place immediately and they should be confined to a base like Gitmo for the duration, until they are deemed fit to re-enter society. This is the Joint Chief's responsibility and they should also be responsible for funding it, even if it has to be out of their own pockets. They caused the damage through lies and deceit, now they must at least attempt to make these people whole again.

    Bush/Cheney's destruction of the economy and the subsequent loss of jobs was a boon for the military recruiters. They planned it this way, along with congress and the senate (lower case for added insult value) who applauded and goose-stepped Amerika into two illegal wars. And I would bet they are kicked back in their second or third mansions now, laughing all the way to the bank and to hell with the "stupid animals," as the mummy war criminal Kissinger so lovingly stated.

    Robert S. Finnegan
    United States Marine Corps
    rsfinnegan@gmail.com
    Jakarta, Indonesia
  • Guest
    I'm sure he would have done exactly the same, child abuse isn't a new concept.
  • thepoliticalcat
    While child abuse, per se, is not a new concept, I find it interesting that he used a technique that we have long claimed is not torture and is perfectly acceptable for use on prisoners, who are helpless to resist it. Something he was taught to use on command as part of his training.
  • FreekinA
    This guy is obviously one of the guards that I've heard horror stories about coming out of our very own American version of Abu Ghraib.. complete with torture and prostitution. Just google "Ft. Lewis torture" regarding treatment of our own soldiers whom were conscientious objectors to Bush's war ..truly disgusting behavior for sure....but this kind of thing was inevitable.
  • donrus
    If this guy recently received custody of his daughter, how bad is the mother?!
  • missskeptic
    You took the words right out of my mouth.
  • Pucker
    Individually, this is a sick man and a criminal, and a child that's best anywhere else.

    As a nation, this is the price of war. The cliche of the crazy war Veteran can live on for more generations thanks to Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The sad thing is that the the criminally insane are only the tip of the iceberg. Many more are damaged goods and will bring down families thru various forms, but never be counted as the price of war.
  • dennycrane
    This is the child the Idaho christers need to save.
  • frank
    we americans are jealous of the cruelty that moslems put their children through, we have become a very sick people.
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