Paul Krugman to Fox News CEO: ‘Deliberate misinformation’

By John Byrne
Monday, February 1st, 2010 -- 12:18 am

paul krugman Paul Krugman to Fox News CEO: Deliberate misinformationIn an interview Sunday, New York Times economist Paul Krugman hammered conservative talk show host Glenn Beck for spreading blatantly false information about the Democrats' health care bill -- and put the blame squarely on Fox News CEO Roger Ailes.

"Glenn Beck doesn't, you know," Krugman began, "what bothers me is the fact that people are not getting informed, that we are going through major debates on crucial policy issues; the public is not learning about them. And you know, you can say, well, they can read the New York Times, which will tell them what they need to know, but you know, most people don't. They don't read it thoroughly.... People did not know what was in the plan, and some of that was just poor reporting, some of it was deliberate misinformation. I have here in front of me when President Obama said, you know, why -- he said rhetorically, why aren't we going to do a health care plan like the Europeans have, with a government-run program, and then proceeds to explain why he's different. On Fox News, what appeared was a clipped quote, "why don't we have a European-style health care plan?" Right, deliberate misinformation."

Fox News CEO Roger Ailes interjects: "Wait a minute, wait a minute..."

And Krugman replies, "I can show you the clip, and you can..."

"The American people are not stupid," Ailes says.

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"No, they're not stupid," he said, delivering a tacit blow to the Fox News chief. "They are uninformed.

Later, Krugman adds, "People, again, this was a plan that is -- it's actually a Republican plan. It's Mitt Romney's health care plan. People were led to believe that it was socialism. That's -- and that was deliberate. That wasn't just poor reporting."

The following video was captured and first reported by Crooks and Liars.

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  • darin
    What was ABCNews doing bringing out the troll Roger Ailes to put him on a real 'news' show? Ailes is a tried and true partsian and CEO of the worst distorting propoganda channel, so biased they had to cut away from President Obama doing so well in the republic caucus last weekend in Baltimore. So far from the presumed/predetermined script of the "uppity black man" that 'us, the normal/real americans' cannot work with!!? He was polite, tolerant, intelligent, and 'fact-based'. Flat-earthers and FOXNEWS viewers have no tolerance for anything but poor white trailer trash and GOP talking points, reinforced all day long by rich angry white men pretending they're not republicans.
  • easterling
    So, Mr. Krugman. Give us your take on the suspension of the basic laws of physics on 9/11/01?
  • lucky
    Raw story's headlines are always a bit over the top. He didn't 'hammer' or 'smash' Ailies - he barely talked a bit of truth. The reich-winger Ailies:”..the american people aren’t stupid”. Krugman should have interrupted him and told him that he was being disingenuous right there. Krugman never said stupid, he said misinformed, and Allies is acting like he doesn’t know the difference. Krugman should have said fox news is serially disingenuous – this is still a very meager attack compared to what the reich-wing leadership should be getting.
  • dieoreillydie
    Why is Krugman bothering talking to this goon?

    It's like inviting Goebbels to the Hillel luncheon.
  • buster
    I was just talking on the phone about this with a friend. This is a question of responsibility and ethics and the dangerous effects of bad "journalism". To a huge degree, journalism is THE ONLY way Americans get their information to live, vote, shop, and update themselves on things that effect THEM. To knowingly mislead people to the point that they have been is to me criminal. I think it could be easily proved that FOX has an agenda which is not in the best for the nation as a whole. They have taken advantage of a certain segment of America and in essence, have poisoned the minds of millions. This sounds like a joke, but it isn't. They blatantly have mislead people on serious issues effecting the course of their inception. They have been part of the declining state of our nation. They have done such a mindfuck on people
    I have to give it to them, they are some of the sickest, slickest, and most devious people I can imagine.

    Someone could/should take FOX to court, and diagram each and every instance where they simply aren't telling the truth about social, political and humanitarian issues point by point to hang these clowns their ass on a plate. They couch their verbiage in a way which is wholly irresponsible, misleading, and dangerous for our stability and future as a nation. Their obvious political agenda discounts them as a legitimate source of news, and I think it's time they are exposed in a court, with a jury so people can see the litany of lies and distortions and how that has coincided with the decline of the economy, the start of wars, and now the planned defeat of healthcare. These are serious issues.

    It is in the interest of national security and stability for our nation to have responsible, non biased news THE WAY IT USED TO BE. They get the highest ratings and get to poison the most minds. That simply isn't "fair and balanced" and has to stop.
  • steve
    krugman is a FRAUD. he works for the big bankers on wall street. he is not in the least trustworthy not to mention his very low level intellect
  • stlfox
    @steve: Oh yeah! You're *SO* right! The guy won the 2008 Nobel Prize for Economics... he *MUST* be of "very low level intellect". You could not look more the fool right now steve... or could you?
  • an84u
    I know people who watch Fox News day in and day out for all their information. They think, and will boldly state, it's "fair and balanced". Confronted with facts, minds remain closed; attitudes angry. I consider Fox News to be more dangerous than the Taliban; more traitorous to our country and destructive to our way of life than Benedict Arnold--singularly similar to Joe McCarthy, though on a slightly different ideology. Bottom lines: Fox shitheads practice mind control; those who swallow the bastard's shit get what they deserve and should be called precisely what they are...shiteaters!!
  • zonkerzzzz
    A few years ago Fox was sued by a group of their own investigative reporters who had uncovered dangers involving Monsanto’s bovine growth hormone. They were commanded to rewrite their report and lie to protect the mega-corporation. When they refused, they were fired.
    They won their suit against Fox for wrongful termination, but under appeal, the decision was reversed. The reason? The judge determined that it was not against the law for a news organization to lie to its viewers.
    Fox News…We Lie…And What The Fuck Are You Gonna Do About It?

    Search YouTube for Fox Monsanto and stand amazed.
  • zonkerzzzz
    A few years ago Fox was sued by a group of their own investigative reporters who had uncovered dangers involving Monsanto’s bovine growth hormone. They were commanded to rewrite their report and lie to protect the mega-corporation. When they refused, they were fired.
    They won their suit against Fox for wrongful termination, but under appeal, the decision was reversed. The reason? The judge determined that it was not against the law for a news organization to lie to its viewers.
    Fox News…We Lie…And What The Fuck Are You Gonna Do About It?

    Search YouTube for Fox Monsanto and stand amazed.
  • zonkerzzzz
    A few years ago Fox was sued by a group of their own investigative reporters who had uncovered dangers involving Monsanto’s bovine growth hormone. They were commanded to rewrite their report and lie to protect the mega-corporation. When they refused, they were fired.
    They won their suit against Fox for wrongful termination, but under appeal, the decision was reversed. The reason? The judge determined that it was not against the law for a news organization to lie to its viewers.
    Fox News…We Lie…And What The Fuck Are You Gonna Do About It?

    Search YouTube for Fox Monsanto and stand amazed.
  • aynM
    go bless krugman.
  • carol h.
    Mr. Krugman was right of course. But he wastes his time. It doesn't matter what facts or truths he tells. The people at Fox don't care about that. And they are not reporters. They are talking heads. They are opinion people, and truth or facts has scarcely entered the picture. They won't change what they do, nor the reasons for doing it.

    And Mr. Krugman is wrong in one area. Americans are stupid. The are willing to be led and fed by people who hold them in contempt. They have embraced ignorance because they are too lazy to read and think for themselves. And they resent anyone who does. This is why Fox is so perfect for them. Predigested fantasy that appeals to their most prejudicial views. A network that rationalizes and tries to legitimize all that ignorance. And people feel, that if a network says what they believe is right, then it must be right.

    Americans have given up the desire to be educated or to learn anything not connected to their views. And Fox takes advantage of that. And just think, they don't have to think for themselves. Someone has done it for them. Demigods, in the form of talking heads. Some day the pendulum will swing back. And when it does, knowledge and science and kindness will make a return. Let's hope it is not too late. Right now lunatic entertainers run the GOP, and religious nuts pick up the slack.

    Remember that old saying, Stop the world I want to get off?
  • Ghost of HowardZinn
    Ailes is the reincarnate of J. Edgar Hoover, a connected ultra conservative, anti-democratic coward, revealing again how thin skinned and desperate the neo-conservative bowel movement has become. The fear most terrifying to the Ailes archetype is large free moving, free thinking humans outside their crowd controls.
  • ChrisP
    I don't know what this website is, but there are certainly a lot of ignorant people giving opinions about the AMERICAN PEOPLE who are keeping Obama and his like from leading us into a socialistic state that will be very unpleasant to live under. I don't want to be taken care of by government. I want to be allowed to take care of myself. Do you really want to dumb down to the rest of the world?
  • lucky
    btw; the government is supposed to be BY and FOR the people. That is, all of us helping to make a better world for everyone. This is not the repulicon way. The elitists say: One for one and all for none...
  • lucky
    For god's sake - back away from the propaganda:
    1. Obama is not a socialist! He's barely a liberal. He is a very pro-corporate, neo-liberal, 'third way' dem. If this is new to you - there is a reason why your news providers don't want you to know it..
    2. Socialism is used all over the place meaning different things to different people. 'Democratic Socialism' is a plus, imo. That's what many Euro countries have - sure, they pay more in taxes, but wages are higher. For example, min wage is 2-3X US. So you get huge government benefits + high wage. Taxes don't matter only take-home pay...
  • stlfox
    @ChrisP: "I don't want to be taken care of by government." Then I take it you're *NOT* living in one of the 33 states that receives more Federal government money than the State provides in taxes?? You do realize that more than half the states in this country are essentially on Federal welfare right?

    And metoo123 is right... if you think the U.S. is being "dumb[ed] down to the rest of the world" then you're the one who's ignorant my friend.
  • metoo123
    First of all, if you haven't travelled recently, the rest of the world is passing us by. Stick to the facts and you will certainly know that. You don't want to be taken care of by government, take a look at Haiti. That's what a country looks like with no government. Since when do you take care of yourself regarding health insurance. Unless you are self-employed, you most certainly don't. And if you are paying for your own insurance, you most certainly would be outraged by the cost to you as an individual and the lack of coverage. If you are covered by an employer, you haven't a clue what the true cost of your medical care is or why it is ever increasing. What conservative would allow for that? Next time you need the fire or police department to help you out, find your own damn business to provide coverage. Otherwise, the rest of us will be able call you a socialist like the rest of us.
  • OldAtlantic
    The Left censors news. They don't tell the truth about 1) immigration 2) affirmative action 3) race 4) race replacement 5) know-how transfer to China 6) why men's median wages are the same as in 1973 7) why California and other states are in such trouble.
  • geo1671
    Real question should be : Why don't we americans have the same free health care as {srael does.
    Oh! I forgot, Uncle Sam allocates US tax dollars to their gold plated med plans
    }}}}}} vultures
  • SueWilsonReports
    Hooray for Krugman. Now please see Public Interest Pictures' film about this topic, Broadcast Blues, and find out not only how we got into this sorry media state, but learn what we can do about it.

    It starts with changing the laws governing Talk Radio. As Danny Goldberg writes in a recent piece for Alternet, http://bit.ly/bFwWLM , the Talk Radio audience is 48 million strong, seven times greater than Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC combined. But unlike cable TV, the airwaves belong to the public, and are subject to policies written by lawmakers who work for We the People.

    The art of the possible: Restore aspects of the Fairness Doctrine. In one day, personal attacks and propaganda could make way for facts and real debate. (There is a reason Right Wing Talkers have been railing against the Fairness Doctrine for years, when nobody was even talking about it. Start talking about it.)

    The art of the imperative: Amend the 1996 Telecommunications Act. That bill allowed Right Wing corporations to dominate the airwaves to the exclusion of liberals, created public safety snafus, and took away the people's voice in their local communities.

    We are not going to get this done by hiding our heads in the sand. It is time for a fight.
  • airjackie
    Paul trashed Tim Geithner for his plan to recover the Stock Market evening stating he should resign as Paul had a better idea. Paul wasn't picked by Obama so Paul supported the GOP and even Fox News Wackos. Now the plan Geithner used worked and Paul's plan would have taken us deeper in debt. Well makes since to jump ship and now get on the Obama train. Yes Paul held up his Nobel Prize as his ticket to the job of US Treasury Secretary but it failed now he's attacking the same people he supported. Look for Law Makers to do the same in coming days as right now many Law Makers are looking for donations from the underwear bombers Rich Father. Yes for money the GOP will not attack this young man. Greed is now how Politics is played even for the 5 Supreme Court Justices who forgot the Constitution starts with We the People not We the Corporations.
  • plunger
    He's just doing the job he was assigned by his employer - the CIA
  • krugman rocks...Ailes is Java the Hutt ...Glen Beck where's the straight jacket?
  • inexxccess
    America: Dumber is gooder
  • proudliberal1947
    One point about Faux Noise, I have experienced this myself in the state of ashington in the shadow of the Capitol.

    These people are concerned about gunrights period and when pointed out that it is a hot button issue you get a shrugg and a glassy eyed look. Took of a issue and they talk in a sound byte.


    Ask a question in reference to a National or World issue you get the same response, these are not Itellictual thinkers they are fear and hate base issue oriented.

    case and point most would like to see the Bimbo of the airways palin as president, point out that she has NO credible knowledge and that Financial and Corporate Institutions would really be running the country you get a shrug and the comment that it would be a change (?) figure that one out.

    Their justification for her NOT answering a question is well no matter what she says she will be wrong, questioned again don't you think she should stand on and by a issue with commitment their answer not if it makes her look bad in the Media of Entertainment.

    On Haiti, it is poor black folk and yes they need our help but they should listen to what we tell them, and how would you fell if the tables were turned their answer no one tells them what to do.

    Just a snap shot into the Hate and Fear Mongering Right wing Faux Noise listner.
  • Jim
    Why can't we post comments about race? I've given money (for the last time) to Raw Story only to have my comments censored. Just like in China or Soviet Union.

    Either you are down with the first amendment and believe in absolute free speech or you are a fascist. There is no gray area. You should be thankful you have the right to be offended.

    Why?
  • Prattvictory
    The American people are not stupid. They are manipulated - by Roger Ailes.
  • DownriverDem
    Fox viewers are yes, uninformed, but they also lack (just like W did) intellectual curiosity. They lack critical thinking skills. And yes, many of the current Fox watchers are hard core bible thumpers who are of the authoritarian bent. They want and need to be told what to think, say, and believe. And when they gain power, it really will be over this time. They control the Supreme Court (5-4) and everything that was gained for decades will be set back. Get ready. It really is all over.
  • johan d
    I have said for years that Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes are the real villains. Not these sad clowns who call them selves reporters. None of them wouldn't be able to understand issues, they are too lazy, to uninformed, they just want to told what to say, so they can be on the air as rude dumb and controversial as possible, so they can boost their numbers.
    Krugman is of course right. Most American people are not dumb, they are just misled by the extremist in charge at FOX corporate circus.
  • DCinDC
    FOX News is really a propaganda organization. FOX news is not there to inform the public. FOX news is there to perform a disinformation propaganda mission against its target. The target being the US voters.
  • paullohan66
    Everyone knows this, except about five million old white people.
  • mmeflutterbye
    Hey! ...Watch it! I'm old (80) and white. Don't you mean Everyone who is apathetic? Those kinds of people listen to quick sound bites from people like Ailes' propaganda organization known as Faux News and think that they've been informed. The GOP depends on that. Wouldn't it be great if there was a channel devoted only to fact checking what these bloated jerks say?
  • lucky
    Congrats on reaching 80! whoo hooo ;)
    Agree about the a channel - isn't that proof that there are no big billionaires on the left willing to donate to politics? I believe there are websites, just not a channel devoted (yet)
    This one is most famous, there are others:
    http://mediamatters.org/
    There is plenty to make into a channel and it should pay, if there was money, imo..
  • Joe Voter
    Sadly there are a lot more the 5M old people watching and believing the misinformation trying to disguise itself as news on Fox. It's more like 50Million.

    The left needs to wake up to this.
  • nan
    You're right. Any suggestions what to do about it?
  • tinao
  • In most other civilized societies they have laws to protect them against people and agencies who deliberately lie and misinform. Why don't we have one here?
  • disappointedvoter
    Because lying is official policy. The repubs started it, and the Dems went along, because they always do.
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