AP: Obama admits health care bill may die

By John Byrne
Friday, February 5th, 2010 -- 1:41 pm

barackobama20080821 a AP: Obama admits health care bill may dieUPDATE: WASHINGTON (AP) -- After insisting for a year that failure was not an option, President Barack Obama is now acknowledging his health care overhaul may die in Congress.

His remarks at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser Thursday night sounded contradictory at times, complicating congressional leaders' effort to revive health care legislation as Democrats hunger for guidance from the White House. Even while saying he still wanted to get the job done, Obama counseled going slow, and bowed to new political realities. Democrats no longer command a filibuster-proof Senate majority, and voters and lawmakers are far more concerned with jobs and the economy than with enacting sweeping and expensive changes to the health system.

"I think it's very important for us to have a methodical, open process over the next several weeks, and then let's go ahead and make a decision," Obama said Thursday night.

"And it may be that ... if Congress decides we're not going to do it, even after all the facts are laid out, all the options are clear, then the American people can make a judgment as to whether this Congress has done the right thing for them or not," the president said. "And that's how democracy works. There will be elections coming up and they'll be able to make a determination and register their concerns one way or the other during election time."

It seemed to be a shift in tone for the issue Obama campaigned on and made the centerpiece of his domestic agenda last year.

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"Here's the key, is to not let the moment slip away," Obama also said.

Raw's original story follows.

Echoing Republican rhetoric leading up to the Senate's passage of a health care overhaul last year, President Barack Obama told a Democratic fundraiser Thursday night "we should take our time" in approving a healthcare bill.

"[I]t may be that -- you know, if Congress decides -- if Congress decides we're not going to do it, even after all the facts are laid out, all the options are clear, then the American people can make a judgment as to whether this Congress has done the right thing for them or not," Obama said.

The comments drew immediate concern from liberal bloggers, including Talking Points Memo and Crooks and Liars.

"It's hard to know what to make of this," TPM's Brian Beutler wrote. "On the one hand: Obama says he sees a way forward, and lays it out pretty clearly. "But on the other hand... he's pretty clearly suggesting Congress might just completely drop the ball. That could be a warning shot at Congress, or it could be an attempt to put some distance between his presidency and the potential failure of his signature initiative. Either way, it's probably left some people on the Hill feeling disgruntled."

"What the hell is wrong with Obama?" wrote liberal blogger Susie Madrak. "Why does he always choose accommodation over moral action? And his lack of leadership is getting downright scary. Congress is fumbling through a game of charades, trying to figure out the clues, while it becomes increasingly clear: There's no game plan."

Obama told donors that creating jobs was his first priority.

"As I said at the State of the Union, I think we should be very deliberate, take our time," he said. "We're going to be moving a jobs package forward over the next several weeks; that's the thing that's most urgent right now in the minds of Americans all across the country."

Obama said letting time pass will allow "everybody to get the real facts."

"What I'd like to do is have a meeting whereby I'm sitting with the Republicans, sitting with the Democrats, sitting with health care experts, and let's just go through these bills -- their ideas, our ideas -- let's walk through them in a methodical way so that the American people can see and compare what makes the most sense," he said.

Democrats put a massive healthcare reform package on hold after losing a key Senate seat in Massachusetts.

In November, the Senate's top ranking Republican defended delaying passage of the healthcare bill, saying that delaying the process would help legislators better understand what they were voting on.

"I think we ought to at least have as much time for the other 99 senators and all of the American people to take a look at this bill as Majority Leader Reid has had," Sen. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said. "The only way to guarantee that for sure would be to delay the process to allow everyone to fully understand what's in the bill."

Democratic Congressional leadership aides could not be reached for comment.

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  • bruman
    We hath been forsaken. I'm thinking of moving to Haiti. At least I'll get medical care. I want to wear a t-shirt that says "OK, I'm a fetus, will you help me now!? This country is populated by low-brow, low-thinking, low-intelligence androids, sometimes called Conservatives. The fact that the for-profit insurance industry has a stranglehold on America is bad enough. Now, the best president in half a century, can't motivate his own party to fight back and slay this malicious, dark and evil dragon which holds all of us hostage.
  • walt
    fair weather democrats and blood thirsty republicans thats what has happened. i am so glad i became an independant. and as for hahamerica if you really are a dane of which i doubt next time you need some help ask someone else instead of the united states. we will overcome this problem because thats what AMERICANS do. so tell your sister how bad you feel for her and get your sad ass back to where ever it is you are from, because we have work to do here and we have enough losers here saying we have failed so therefore we are whooped. we are not. we will continue this fight to take back our country until it is free again or the last patriot is dead. because it aint over by a long shot.
  • turretman1st
    as above congress can get some value back doing this.
    also along withb health care.congress could place a long list on the ballots.
    covering all the items that have been to controversial for them to take care of.
    war on terror iraq/afganistan stay or pull out
    military over sea's/ keep stationed over sea's or pull back all to the homeland.
    term limits, campian finanse reform
    monitary aid to foriegne nations. stop monitary aid, use all funds here rebuild our nation.
    isreal and middle east
    energy use here, electric transit thru out country like europe asia renewable energy use
    and any other item they think.
    just think what would happen in washington if they did this.
  • damixaustex
    .
    If you haven't seen this in it's entirety, I recommend giving up the 40 minutes or so it takes to watch it. Read along for extra points.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/29/transc...

    Obama is now working on making sure Americans realize what's wrong with the system. Take heed, vote accordingly.
  • turretman1st
    why don't they just put the question to the voters on the 2010 elections
    1. single payer , medicare for all
    2, mandates using insurance companys.
    3. just leave it alone
    let the poeple vote then restart it in congress to what the poeple want.
    there is enough time to place it on the ballots nation wide.
  • CaptainHowdy
    What a complete and utter loser of a President.
  • walt
    your a loser period. now sit down and shut up captain pussy
  • damixaustex
    Sorry Mr. Howdy, you are wrong. Apparently you haven't been watching Presidents for long. Maybe later when you grow up you can read history and realize your error in judgment
  • Kev
    I think Obama sees that he can't get Dems in Congress to grow a set and push health care through, so he's distancing from health care which many people are split on to jobs which more people support seeing action on. What's interesting is a lot of House and Senate Dems see it as playing safe to not push health care reform, though I suspect Obama sees it different and expects major losses in Nov 2010 elections due to Dems not taking action. As a Dem-leaning independent voter who strongly supports health care reform, I won't vote Republican, but don't see much reason to hit the polls in Nov. for the Dems at this point. And I think there are a lot of folks out there like me.
  • n2deep
    The citizens are fodder in this country. The corporate elites are ready to pack it up and scab onto some other suckers.
  • hahamerikkkaisfucked
    Hello all. I am a Danish citizen visiting my sister in the states. All I have to say is that you Americans deserve to die the slowest way possible. I think it's great that Obama failed to bring any healthcare reform. You Americans are a bunch of fucking monsters, constantly sticking your noses where it doesn't belong. Well now you Porky Pig wannabes can die now! HA HA HA HA! Fucking fat pigs.
  • khudnut
    Your rhetoric is overboard and a little shallow. We pretty much liberated your country once. Now we cannot honestly keep bringing that up and assume it is the do-all, end-all for the rest of eternity. But sticking our noses in where they don't belong? Deserving to die in the slowest way possible? Sometimes our noses were/are necessary. You need to be able to differentiate. Just this month, in Haiti, well, we are saving some lives there right now. Just 5 years ago, in Iraq, I have to agree, we should have stayed out. See? Differentiation. Your rhetoric and name calling is overboard.

    Re: Health care? well, clearly US America have some lessons to learn from the world. Let's all hope all of us can learn some humility and humanity.

    "F... fat pigs?" It's uncalled for. And please note, I'm not telling you to go back to so and so, such and such country in Europe either. Learn to differentiate. That's pretty much what I'm saying.

    The fact is, time for the all the people of earth to grow up and stop acting like children in a playground. Little humility. Little humanity.
  • And Mr. Obama is guaranteeing his legacy as a one-termer, and maybe even a legacy as the final US President.

    Not exactly "change you can believe in," is it?
  • weak
  • Kurt_O
    Was the package they were planning on passing anything close to REAL reform?

    I noted its most enthusiastic proponents were the folks who drafted it -- Big Pharma and Big Insurance.

    What does that tell you?
  • damixaustex
    The original package WAS real reform. The pile of bile they've negotiated with Republicans, both parties are guilty of bringing it too close to what we already have.
  • buzzo
    It's a true statement. It might not pass.

    I think the legislators need to think about whether or not they want it to happen. I think citizens should think long and hard about it, too.

    Instead of all this whining about what Obama did or didn't do.... we should be facing reality.

    If the Tea Partiers with slim representation in both houses and absolutely NO leadership on the national level can derail health care reform strictly by showing up and yelling crazy nonsense....

    What could we do if we were to show up in larger numbers, talking common sense, with majorities in both houses?

    It's not Obama's fault.
  • n2deep
    Adios Obama.... No health care reform, no re-election.... it wasn't his goal anyway... it was to give the Bushies cover...
  • thx1138
    .
    THE BUSINESS OF AMERIKA IS BUSINESS: EVERYTHING GOING EXACTLY ACCORDING TO PLAN

    -- Rhetorical Reformer Obama Reports That "The State Of The (Corporatist) Union Is Strong" --

    -- Permanent Wars, Bailouts, WealthCare, MIC, CIA, American Corporate Fa$cism, All Right On Track --
    .
  • smallbear
    Whatever Obama does now, however goes the healthcare bill, so goes the Obama presidency.
  • Hologram5
    AP: Obama admits health care bill may die
    -------------------------
    And so will any chance of the people having faith in his "Change". He is crashing and burning in a blaze of spiraling GLORY!
  • luvboxer
    What the hell is wrong with Obama. This is crazy people need healthcare now. He will not be voted in on a second term and I believe he knows it and doesn't care.

    I said this before Hillary should have been President. She knows how to play the game it is too late now we have nothing to look forward to.
  • lorn
    Obama and Hillary serve the same masters. Same as Bush.
    The two party trap has you. Wake up and walk away from their rigged game.
    Third party options exist. Here is a good one.
    http://www.gp.org/index.php
  • MYMY
    Sorry, but this sounds like he is CHALLENGING a pretty namby pamby Congress to DO it.
  • Whitewitch
    It could be that he is challenging them, seems more like he is getting himself in a position where he can point to congress as the cause of his failure for his next election.
  • buzzo
    I think a lot of health care reform "advocates" don't really do any advocating. They just sit and complain about Obama.

    In high school, there were rejects and there were bullies. But there was also the category of people in between.... those who would pick on the rejects, not on their own initiative, but because they were too cowardly to stand up to bullies.

    I think most Democrats fall into the middle category. And I think this is worse than being a rejects or a bully. Being a bully, sure, it's bad. But bullies only get away from it because the big group in the middle enables them. The rejects, on the other hand, they get kicked around a lot.... but they are also usually smarter, tougher, and ultimately better than everyone else.

    After seeing both Congress (and the public) wimp out and start attacking Obama along with the Republicans.... I am convinced that this is exactly what's going on. People are cowards.

    We'll have to see if they remain cowardly. If only we had this kind of president if only had a couple more votes.... whine whine whine. If you want health care reform, get off your behind and work to make it happen.
  • Can't be as bad as the mistake I made voting for 'W' :)
  • DownriverDem
    It's all over then. The Dems are doomed. The Repubs won!

    Any one else as disgusted as me?
  • scytherius
    Yeah, but let em have it. They will drive the Nation to destruction which is something America deserves for electing the people in the first instance. Losing America is no loss at all.
  • Whitewitch
    Okay - now I give up on Obama. Sadly, I too now think I made a horrible mistake on November 4th. I will not make the same mistake again.
  • scytherius
    Agreed. had he led and pushed HARD for this we would have a bill in place. Furthermore, due to his lack of leadership, many Dems stayed home in MA. He can be ASSURED that tens of millions of us will be staying home in 2010, 2012 and beyond.
  • DownriverDem
    I wouldn't say you made a mistake unless you now think McClain/Palin would have done better on health care reform.

    It's the Senate that is the problem.
  • Whitewitch
    I don't think they would have been better - it would have made the republicans have to deal with the mess we are in now and taken the power out of all the blaming Obama/Dems for the bad economy, unemployment...they would have had to bear their own results from the own policies.
  • GENLA99
    Is this guy bi-polar or what?
  • lorn
    Obama on the criminal bank bailout bill in October 2009, the one passed in a climate of panic and urgency.....

    “One of the messages I have to Congress is get this done,” Obama said Monday. “Democrats and Republicans, step up to the plate. Get it done.”....."Wall Street and Washington has led us to this point, but now that we are here, the stability of our entire economy depends on us taking immediate action to ease this crisis.”


    Obama on his first (April 2009)emergency supplemental war funding bill to pay for his Af-Pak escalation.....

    "I also urge the Congress to focus on the needs of our troops and our national security, and not to use the supplemental to pursue unnecessary spending," Obama wrote. "I want the Congress to send me a focused bill and to do so quickly."


    On the unnecessary stimulus swindle bailout last January, the one that transferred $700 billion of the peoples money to big bloated corrupt companies, Obama said.........

    ""No plan is perfect, and we should work to make it stronger," said Obama, referring to the over 800 billion dollar stimulus plan which was aimed to save the U.S. sagging economy.
    He warned the failure will turn the current crisis into a "catastrophe."
    "A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe and guarantee a longer recession, a less robust recovery, and a more uncertain future," said the new president.
    "That's why I feel such a sense of urgency about the Economic Recovery and Reinvestment Plan," said Obama......





    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/14103...
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/09/ap/po...
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/05/co...

    I guess the moral of the story is that Obama is the new decider. He decides what is urgent and what isn't.
    Many Americans have decided never to vote for a Republican or a Democrat ever again. Good decision.
  • edwards_com
    The original Bailout occurred at Midnight 9.15.08.
  • jimbo701
    Hey, stop spewing facts!!
  • thrashertm
    Come on - obvious typo. We all know that Bush, McCain and Obama were all onboard the bailout express. Criminal motherfuckers - they should all be rotting in jail cells!
  • vince j
    I live in Australia. In 2003 I had an emergency operation, I had to stay in hospital overnight and then, for a whole month, I had nurses coming to my house to tend to my wounds. My cost wasAU$0. It is a farse that a country who spends trillions stealing other peoples resources, trillions on Torture programs, trillions in Weapon of Mass Destrucion, trillions lying about their imperial wars, can not pay for the right of health care for its own citizens!!!!
    The 'citizens' should surround congress in masses and let them know they are there! Imagine those crooks voting againts the poeples whishes and having to face hundreds of the outside!
    Wake Up People! If you stay slilent, it will not happen!
  • thx1138
    Nice synopsis, Vince. But, unfortunately, we have no alternatives in Amerika to the Military Industrial Complex and the Corporate Industrial Complex and the Media Industrial Complex, and the Political Industrial Complex. The Business of Amerika is Business, and we've all been taken for a ride for a few hundred years and now the party is almost over. There is no one here who's un-corrupt to vote for. Sure, maybe one or two, but that's it. And if they ran for President and it looked like they were going to win, then our CIA would assassinate them. Same as it ever was. The real bad news is that the U.S. has so many fingers in the world's pie, that when our economy collapses there will be a world wide depression, with only the rich left standing, while the rest of us are out in the cold, literally -- and that's just the way they set the whole thing up. Peak oil and global warming brought all the organized thieving to a head, and the next 100 years will not be pretty.
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