Obama would destroy Palin in hypothetical race, poll finds

By Sahil Kapur
Monday, February 8th, 2010 -- 3:18 pm

obamapalin Obama would destroy Palin in hypothetical race, poll findsWASHINGTON -- Sarah Palin predicted Sunday that Barack Obama would lose the presidency if he was currently facing re-election. But apparently that's far from true if she's the Republican challenging him, a new poll finds.

"I think if the election were today, I do not think Obama would be re-elected," Palin said on Fox News.

While studies find the president's job approval ratings on a downward curve, a just-released poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion finds that Obama would decisively defeat Palin in a hypothetical race between the two and independent New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Marist found that Obama would win such a match-up by 15 points, garnering 44 percent of the vote to Palin's 29. Bloomberg was behind with 15 percent.

The race may well turn out to be a reality as polls show Palin is a leading contender for the Republican nomination in 2012. She also strongly suggested this weekend she may enter the race, telling Fox's Chris Wallace it would be "absurd not to consider" running.

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Palin offered Obama some advice on how he might boost his popularity rating, suggesting it would help him to "declare war on Iran" or "play the war card."

Democratic strategists have expressed their hope that Palin will be challenging Obama as the GOP nominee in 2012, believing the president is virtually guaranteed victory if that's the case.

Republicans are divided on the question of Palin's potential candidacy. As popular as she is with the core conservative base, many GOP strategists are skeptical as to whether she can pose a serious challenge to Obama in a general election.

The Marist poll also found some potentially troubling news for Obama as his disapproval rating, 47 percent, was higher than his approval rating, 44 percent. The strongest drop in support was among independents, 57 percent of whom held a negative view of his performance.

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  • Martin
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It would be even funnier than when Dubya ruined the country. President Palin. HAHAHAHAHA. I can see Bill Kristol coaching her right now. "You Can Do It!" She writes on her palm like I did when I was cheating on my science quizzes! She would have looked (even though she isnt) more intelligent if she would have just used a teleprompter like every other President has done in the past. She's so insistent on trying to use that against President Obama that she snuck her cues in on her hand. She's such a lying ignorant hypocrit! Who could trust a blatant liar in the oval office? I'd rescind my citizenship if she were president.
  • Martin
    Palin is so naive, stupid, and yes...RETARDED! She doesn't even know what my 5th grader has learned in Social Studies: The President of the United States CANNOT declare war! Congress does! Such an empty dress IDIOT! Gawd I can't stand that dingbat! I can't stand the intellectually challenged teabaggers either...but you can best believe that I will become the biggest, American flag Tshirt stained with my pot-belly hanging out TeaBagger America has ever seen should that dufus win the presidency. In fact---I'll move to DC and picket every single day for her entire term. I'll have a poster of her face, with two teeth blacked out, a hitler mustach, a sickle through her head, and have the word fascist stamped across her silly grin. SICK SICK SICK! That Palin is just SICK!
  • truth sayer
    she's getting to be rather annoying.. she's worse then the kardashians with all of this celebwhoring.
  • george a. hilborn
    Most Americans know little or nothing about Iran or it's people . The majority Persians 51% are fairly well educated and the remainder 49% of the population less so which is divided into ethnic groups representative of the region.Their history goes back some 4000 years and the recent turmoil is reflective of the educated masses dissatisfaction with the present regime. Leadership in advanced states usually comes from the more educated(the US being the exception 2000-2008) and our patience could be rewarded but an attack of any kind could shift the opposition away from our camp. Republicans love to send other peoples sons and daughters into harms way and most of them dodge individual military committment. The semi-literate will always collect around one of their own ,that's why facist do so well
  • twit this
    Bullshit happy talk. The poll suggests three people would be in the running. Pehraps you've noticed that's not how elections work.
  • frantaylor
    Yes there are usually a dozen or so names on the ballot.

    Pat Paulson and Vermin Supreme are my favorite candidates.
  • Hologram5
    I would just as soon hire a can of paint for the job before I'd hire her for ANY type of work. At least with a can of paint, I know that work would be getting done.
  • Clearbrook
    Now if you put Hillary Clinton in the poll as well, it would realy get interesting. The polling was designed, from the outset, to posit two conservative choices against one liberal one. That could happen, but the Tagline, thrust of the article and Headline are missleading. They suggest that one on one, Obama would prevail. It could be that is still the case, but this Poll does not support that opinion. Great creativity is shown here, at the expense of the truth. In other words, this is spin.
  • mnzr
    My god. 29% would vote for this imbecile?
  • frantaylor
    It's a lot less than she got last time. People ARE learning.
  • quizmos
    I am one of those Independents who is very disappointed in Obama's performance, but I would vote for Adolf Hitler before casting a vote for Sarah Palin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Gray
    Great for Obama! But will it be any help in 2012? Just look at what happened to Deeds when running for governor in Virginia. Despite the brilliant logic behind his campaign ('Me, an idiot? Just look at the other guy!') the argument didn't really connect with the voters. Conclusion: If you have nothing to offer except hollow brouhaha, and nobody believes you anyway, it doesn't matter if the other candidate is even dumber than you are!

    And if this administration dosn't change ASAP, even Palin will look like a reasonable alternative to Obama in three years.
  • WhatAboutBob
    Obama is all lip service! No action! He's still out there on TV doing screw up control! If he does not get rid of the brain dead people around him, he's a lame duck president! What a disappointment!!!!!!!!!!! All the liberals and progressives are so intoxicated with this guy, well its shameless! Makes you want to throw up! How many years does one get in the Penitentiary for breaking Constitutional Law????? Like making Americans buy health insurance even if they don't want to! Sounds like a dictator to me!! What happened to the freedom to choose?? America seems to be getting more Red, than red,white an blue!!!?? Maybe Obama's preacher was right when he said GD America and Obama is the false prophet bringing that prophecy true!
  • Dan
    Analysis of poll

    "Obama is helped by Bloomberg's independent run, which collects votes from 20% of Republicans while only taking 4% of Democrats"

    Translation: Obama is actually getting beat by Palin, 49%-48%.

    Typically liberal spin
  • frantaylor
    "a just-released poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion finds that Obama would decisively defeat Palin "

    Perhaps you are the one who is spinning.
  • Mr. Neutron
    Republicans are not dumb enough to nominate Palin in 2012.

    They are going with Limbaugh.

    And the GOP follows the Whig Party, wiped off the pages of history... ha ha.
  • straight_talk
    I sure hope Palin is the Republishkin candied date in 2012. She really needs to have her nose stuck in it.
  • juno912
    Over and over and over and over again.. let it be repeated and understood... From Arlen Specter’s defection to Scott Brown’s swearing in, Democrats had total control over the policy-making process. The reason they have falied to enact most anything outide the margins is because President Obama is a loser. It is not about Sarah Palin. It is about Barack Obama. He has never been up to the job. To be pimping polls about this poseur Obama vs. Sarah "Dim Wit" Palin shows just how WEAK Obama is. Dump this guy beore Dems lose any further opportunity to enact the sort of policies this country needs.
  • mdbluesky
    Is Palin's cynical suggestion that Obama "play the war card" an indication of what she would do if elected to office and found her poll numbers sliding? Even if everything else she has ever said make perfect sense, this single statement completely disqualifies here from ever holding any public office. A Palin candidacy would be a dream come true for the Democratic party.
  • Viiit
    Actually what she says is true.
    If Obama attacks Iran, his popularity will sore. Of course if he gets involved in long occupation, he will share Bush's fate.
    On the other hand, if he just bombs the crap out of their nuclear installations without losing any American lives, he will be VERY popular.
  • rob
    you're absolutely correct, his popularity will SORE
  • Why don't we create some overt reason for Iran to start cuddling up to 'al Qaeda'... that sounds like a SPLENDID plan.

    I think Obama needs to have a live TV face to face with the house republicans on how much of we know about Iran is solid intelligence and how much is propaganda generated by those with an interest in creating another war (these people are not hard to point out -- Palin for instance).

    As long as people are afraid, no matter how off base it is.. they will think irrationally. Sad thing is, there's no way to eliminate paranoia from the public discourse.. and sometimes it actually saves us.
  • viiit
    We don't need additional intelligence.
    We can just listen to Ahmedinajad and watch his actions which he himself proudly announces:
    He is calling America the Great Satan. He has repeatedly said that the world without America is not only possible but feasible, since nothing is impossible for Allah. He has declared that loosing all of Iran is a small price, as the real life is after death. This tell us that the MAD which worked with Soviets may not with Iran.
    Additionally he is bragging about enriching Uranium to 20%. While only 3-5% is necessary for most power plants.
    Additionally Iran is openly testing of missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads, and working on every other aspect of nuclear weapon program.

    It takes willful self-deception to think that Iran just wants peaceful use of nuclear energy. It simply does not make sense in a country with world second largest natural gas, and third largest oil reserves.
    Iran is ruining it's economy to produce enriched uranium. Electricity from nuclear power would be many times more expensive than from gas.

    It is simply inconceivable to me how anyone can full himself and fail to see what is happening.

    Yes, prospect of bombing Iran is horrible, but the prospect of nuclear Islamists is thousandfold more horrible.

    Similar thinking prevented the Brits and French from acting in time to stop Hitler. I am no fan of Palin, but I have to agree with her on this point. (As should any sane person who is not hiding his/her had in the sand.)
    And, indeed there is a chance that Obama will destroy Iran's nukes.
  • frantaylor
    Ahmedinajad is just a puny little puppet, he dances on stage for his masters. He knows nothing and is replaceable. Everyone knows this.

    Get over your little power hungry infantile reaction. The US is NOT the benevolent all-powerful master of the universe. We are just as crappy as every other country on the planet and we have NO business telling other people to get in line.

    The rest of the world is UTTERLY freaked that WE are becoming the nuclear terrorists because of people like YOU who want to BOMB BOMB BOMB.
  • Does Satan offend you? Do you have anything except for rhetoric? "Similar thinking prevented acting in time to stop Hitler".. Are you joking or do you actually believe there are some parallels between Iran of 2010 and Germany of the 1930s?
  • Bob_in_Prague
    Here's the thing, Vilit - you need 20% uranium to generate isotopes for use in medical research and tests and treatments. You need something like 90% for fissile reactions. So WTF? He offered to swap 3% with the West in exchange for 20%, which he said he needed for a research reactor, and we refused, so he's going to make his own, as he has every right to do under the NPT, to which Iran is a signatory. The obnoxiousness of your comment is exceeded only by its breathtaking ignorance, stupidity, and suspect motives. Give peace a chance (an absurd thing to ask of most 'murkans, sad to say)...
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  • Baldrick
    Well, honestly, that poll is set up to split the R vote, and Obama doesn't win by as much as I'd like to see -- splitting the vote with the two of them is hardly to "destroy" her. Combined with the -3 on approval, these are discouraging numbers.

    Guess it's time for some more pee pants bipartisanship leading to oblivion...
  • easterling
    If Palin wins count on NASCAR overalls as uniform of the day. With prominent corporate logos. Heh!
  • easterling
    Thank the heavens we have a black President. When we go totally fascist the uniforms will have a little bit of soul. Perhaps even graphic NFL NBA ties ins. Who knows what the future holds mein volken?
  • jglyfgjtukflt
    I think if that if she were to run we should take her seriously as a contender to defeat in the elections and not just something we could blow off.

    Do you really want to risk "President Palin" becoming a reality?
  • slipknot
    "Do you really want to risk "President Palin" becoming a reality?"
    Reading the comment section here on RAW would make one think that is a distinct possibility. Too many extremist, knee jerk, no-nothings and not enough rational thinkers.
  • viiit
    Palin is a horror, but till 1000 times better than Obama.
  • dinah286
    So Palin thinks that the President should start a war to boost his popularity. "Play the war card", in her words, to score points. I guess she thinks war is a game to be played by politicians. Nice. Keep talking, Sarah. None of your critics could possibly discredit you as effectively as you discredit yourself.
  • Bradwhg
    Strawman argument. Palin while the darling of the MSM at the moment is in no way a contender for the Republican nomination. It seems the way some of these sites play her up, they are thinking that she is the key to an Obama second term. Wishful thinking!
  • Satan
    This same story has been run dozens of times by propagandists in the past two years.

    Why is it news for the media to artificially popularize a woman who would otherwise not be in the picture at all and then to continually poll people to show that Obama would cream her in an election, and then go back to running non-stop articles about the woman while never ever once telling us any of her view on any subject unless it was just some funny little one liner.

    Journalism, lol non even, it's fucking garbage.

    "Poll: Most Republicans don't want Palin to run in 2012 | Raw Story | Jan 19, 2010"
    Oh, so what's the point of this story again? To shit propaganda?
  • matticusfinch
    Now that its no longer up to us American people (like it ever really was) and thanks to the recent supreme court decision, anyone could be come president no matter how dumb and unqualified...in fact, the dumber and less qualified the better....your easier to control and easier to run over. The typical "sit down, shut up and look pretty for the camera" while the real leaders rule from secrecy.
  • CHAZE42
    All Palin is good at is stirring up a bunch of ignorant people who consistently rebel against their own best interests. It's pretty obvious to me that all she cares about is the money. Heaven help us if by some weird chain of events she does become president.
  • rts111
    C'mon. It is impossible. America would be the laughing stock of the world!
    A mechanism of American-made self-esteem and self-preservation would automatically kick-in during election time to ensure the impossible. She is simply too embarrassing to too many millions of people.
    Many people will make good money at the very suggestion of the impossible. To sell the dream of the impossible to the American people is prime PR and they will sell her persona like she is the lead in a soap opera.
  • Richie73
    "C'mon. It is impossible. America would be the laughing stock of the world!"

    That's what many of us were thinking back in 2000 too.
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