GOP Rep. Deal insists birth certificate question not a knock on Obama’s ‘legitimacy’

By Stephen C. Webster
Tuesday, February 9th, 2010 -- 8:21 pm

repnathandeal GOP Rep. Deal insists birth certificate question not a knock on Obamas legitimacyIt's a conspiracy theory that will never die.

They call them "birthers." It seems no matter how many times President Obama's birth certificate is handed to them, no matter how many lawsuits they lose, they just continue to insist that the president is hiding something about his place of birth ... That he may secretly be a Kenyan. Or worse.

Count Congressman Nathan Deal (R-GA) among them.

Except, by asking for Obama's birth certificate, Deal insists he's not questioning the president's "legitimacy" as other birthers may. He just thinks it is something President Obama would like to "clear up."

The congressman, who is running for Governor of Georgia, sent an electronic letter on congressional stationery to the White House at the beginning of December, asking President Obama to release his birth certificate.

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"This is probably the first time in 233 years of American history that a sitting member of the House of Representatives has officially challenged the legitimacy of a sitting president," birther blog The Post & Email claimed. "This forever changes the public discourse."

Unfortunately for them, it did not. The story went largely unnoticed.

President Obama's birth certificate has been available on the Internet since 2008. A copy is visible at the bottom of this article.

Yet, at a Feb. 6 meeting of the Georgia Christian Alliance, Deal told a group of birther activists that their questions "deserve at least [Obama's] response."

Deal added: "I do not shy away from hard questions. I answer those questions. If I don't have information to answer the questions, I have to go to the folks who do have the answers. In this case, the president is the one who could clear this up. What I am asking him to do is tell me where I can ask my constituents to go to see authentic documentation that he says [inaudible] will satisfy their curiosity."

As if on cue, the Georgia Liberal blog launched its own campaign asking Deal to prove that he is, in fact, eligible to run for governor.

"Sure, maybe Deal is a resident of Georgia now… maybe… But has he been so for the past six years?" they sarcastically ask. "And has he been an American citizen for 15 years? And, is he actually 30? I mean, I ASSUME he is 30… but we can’t assume these things, we need proof!"

They would like to be known as the "proofers," the blog adds.

Neither Deal's House.gov site, nor his campaign site feature documents proving his eligibility to run for governor. However, during the presidential campaign, then-Senator Obama had his birth certificate posted to a site dedicated to counteracting outlandish political attacks.

That document was confirmed as valid by Hawaii's health director.

"These sort of things deserve straightforward responses," Deal claimed during his recent interview. "I'm not questioning his legitimacy to serve as president. I would think that he would like to clear that up ..."

During an appearance at the National Prayer Breakfast earlier in February, President Obama chided Republicans for these type of attacks.

"Surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith," he said before adding, "or, for that matter, my citizenship."

Just 44 percent of Republicans at-large believe President Obama is a United States citizen, according to a recent DailyKos poll.

The Washington Independent's David Weigel posted a video of Deal "being questioned by minor birther figure Carl Swensson."

"I know that some folks are trying to label this as politically incorrect," Deal told Swennsson. "I want to tell you something. Political incorrectness is paralyzing our society. These kinds of things deserve straightforward responses. And I think this ought to be put to rest I’m not questioning his legitimacy to serve as president. I would think he’d like to clear that up in as unequivocal a fashion as possible. And that’s simply all I’m asking."

This video was published to YouTube by user pixelpatriot on Feb. 8, 2010.

For a larger version of President Obama's birth certificate, click the image below.

obamabirthcertificate GOP Rep. Deal insists birth certificate question not a knock on Obamas legitimacy

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  • notsofast
    Obama has never provided a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH (BIRTH CERTIFICATE), he provided a CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH (BIRTH CERTIFICATION). A BIRTH CERTIFICATION is rather generic in that it does not have any information regarding the hospital in which he was born or the doctor who delivered him. It’s far easier for a parent of an undocumented child to obtain a CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH, than it is to obtain a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH, because to obtain a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH actually entails being born and delivered in a hospital on US territory.
  • bikerentgirl
    Deal and all you other Repub-lie-cons are the crazy ones. Do you think that Obama could have ealy possably tricked all of America into thinking he was qualified to be the President if he wasn't? Yall watch entirely too many made for televisoin movies. Generally where there is smoke there is fire, and the smoke all seems to be coming from Deal. College transcripts are nobody's business. The burden of proof lies with the accuser here! Remember innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Obama's birth certificate can be compared to hospital records very easily! That's why they take foot prints of new borns! NOW QUIT YOUR DAMN LYING!
  • Nick Weston
    Birther: white person angry that black person is President.
  • chris
    No smart people have law degrees from harvard.
  • runninbear
    If you really think you saw his B.C. then compare it too Milki Booths.She ACTUALLY HAS HERS ?Hows that for proof? A REAL BON'A'FIDE HAWWAIAN ISSUED LONG FORM BRITH CERTIEFCATE THAT HAS EVERY DETAIL ! What would Barrack Hussien pay for that ?It would save taxpayers money to just show us what hes hiding
    THEY CALLED US VERTEANS TERRORISTS AND THE REAL TERRORISTS ARE TREATED LIKE CITIZENS!SO CALL ME ALL THE NAMES YOU THINK OF AND STILL IT WON'T GET YOU WHAT YOU WANT or change BARRACK "HUSSIEN' OBAMA II/BARRY D.SOETORO , INTO "A NATURAL BORNED CITIZEN OF THIS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?you may try and destory "OUR CONTITUTION"' BUT WE WON'T GO AWAY until we have seen the papers of this Usuper!AND HE CAN PROVE IT !
  • Jefe
  • Chris
    You people just wont give up! It's over he won he's the president and to think his birth certificate is a forgery is absolute ludicrousy. If you need to question whether OUR president Is an actual natural born citizen you need to question your own patriotism. Too think that It was a fake document? We would have already known that the document was a fake by now. Do you think the republicans can hold out information like that? He wouldn't even been able to run for office you dip shits! Tell me why he would even lie about something like that? The man is a Genius! He's smart enough to know that the people whether be democrat or republican would find out the truth before he even started campaigning. Don't you think people In Washington, people that can get a hold of any piece of information in the world like the NSA, FBI, or CIA would of found this info before he was a senator and taken him out of federal politics for good. You people are messed up! Keep believing you fox new news and all you GOP bs, because it will get you no where except an economic depression a fake war for weapons of mass destruction, and 9/11. Yea whose lying to u know johnny. You all should be ashamed of yourselves questioning the most respected man in the free world. We need to start realizing that he's here to help us, and himself in a way because he's an American and he cares as much about this country more then the next American. If the dept. of health of the untied states of america says its good then thats good enough for me. Imagine walking into a cafeteria where a food fight erupted and no one was left but you to clean the mess. Thats the president job right now thank's to the good old GOP. So if you want to keep criticism going, Obama will be right there fighting for your right to do so because he is an AMERICAN AND PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.
  • Jefe
    How do you know? Because a little piece of paper said so? Again, Hawaii says his original 1961 birth cert is sitting in a vault but they wont release it without his permission. In the time it took you type out all the BS, we could of been done with this. Again, its pathetic he doesnt release the cert to show up the millions of "birthers."

    The man is a genius? Wow....Do smart people throw money at problems?
  • Jefe
    McCain released an original cert from Panama. Why cant Obama released the vault copy Hawaii says exists? 2 years down the drain here pretty soon and we cant even see this 1 document that exists? Let alone the college records no one has seen. I bet we wont since it will show the Saudis paid for his education

    Here is a blank Hawaii cert, go ahead and type on top of it like Obamas Administration did and you can be born in Hawaii too!

    http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2008/0...

    Lawsuits have only been dropped because of lack of standing. No judge dares touching this case if they want to keep their job. Obama has spent over $1 million protecting himself from having to release the 1 piece of paper Hawaii has on him. Pathetic if you ask me
  • runninbear
    I have made my point and yours is just dribble that makes you look like some 3th grader who couldn't find his posterior end with both hands ,if he had a map?try to at least sound like you have a pair and not the fecial matter that you expell your abusive lanaugage and off color rants that you spew to answer serious questions that Obam/Soetoro has yet to provide and "WE THE PEOPLE HAVE A CONTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO HAVE IT ANSWERED?The more you try to insult someone who seriously has something to say you lose what creditabilty you could have had.This must really be a personal thing you have for Obma/Soetoro are you his boy toy or do you just like to rant and insult people who really have proof that he isn't a "Natural Borned citizen".Are you so afraid to ask this usuper for proof or are you like the obots that believe every word that Obama /Soetoro says,at least we have the balls to stand up to force Obama/Soetoro to provide his papers? Don't be a "Coward" and stop drinking the Obama kool aid it will rot your brain.
    So take your best rants,Name calling and any insult you wish to throw out,because "WE THE PEOPLE won't stop until the usurper shows us the proof that every US citizen must be ready to show to prove hes an "American".so don't hold back lets hear the best you got,and remember I've heard it all ?
  • Tom Nye
    Why don't you put more energy into checking the birth certificates of the men that run the
    banks in OTHER countries that were given the money taken out of your check every week.
  • cretinesque
    All I ever got from my birth state was a certificate of live birth. That's it. The only difference between my original and the copy I have is that the original has my feet prints on it, and it is a different format. The name of the document is the same, etc. This means that my birth state is, by reciprocity and full faith and credit, submitting that I am a natural born US citizen. Period. It is a state issue, just as my driver license privileges to go anywhere I please are a state issue.

    If my documents are enough to get a passport (and why wouldn't they be), they are good enough to let me run for the POTUS. Birthers are creating an entirely new idea about what constitutes credentialing for federal office. It's completely novel, and ironic at best considering the paranoia birthers seem to have about all things federal.
  • uupinko998
    This dude seeems to be WAY too full of himself.

    Jess
    www.online-anonymity.cz.tc
  • Mark
    Alcoholics are always right. That's why they won't let this go.
  • fiftysomething
    Do these people live under a rock or are they just so incurious that they never read a newspaper, watch TV (other than Fox) or read internet news. I have never looked for the birth certificate and I must have seen it a 100 times. I don't think the birth certificate has anything to do w/it. It's their frustration at not being able to overtly express their racism so they create side issues and pretend there is substance to them. McCain wasn't born in the U.S., but there's no problem w/that because he's white. Republicans are hypocrites.
  • wiseturtle
    Clear up WHAT? You bitch!! You don't go around asking KKKracker politicians for their birth certificate, do you?....FUCK YOU. FUCK ALL RACISTS.
  • yaright
    Another southererner who is dumb as the day is long... slower than molasses in January. That boy’s two bricks shy of a full load. I think that boy’s about two sandwiches shy of a picnic. I think he’s one fry short of a Happy Meal. That boy couldn't find his ass with both hands tied behind his back.

    Oh there are so many....
  • George
    how do we know Deal is here legaly?
  • motorfingaz
    Racist right wing punk!!!
  • bushfatigue
    Wow.

    Those Communists who are taking over our country are so darn sneaky and brilliant, they knew in 1961 that Obama would turn out to be a brilliant speaker, a top student, and a straight arrow, so they planted birth announcements in two Honolulu newspapers (whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php) within days of his actual birth, which, uh, took place where--in Moscow, Kenya, or maybe the Moon?
  • dave w
    yet another GOOBER.
  • AristotleTheHun
    Heavens to Betsy! Oh my goodness!. Obviously the moderator (if any) is asleep at the wheel. I am not going to continue to post in such a sleezy environment.

    ”Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference”.
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/02/obama...

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/blank...
  • J Lewd
    Please don't then. Just leave. No one asked you here to spread your lies and racism.

    As for your "witty" comment:

    "When speaking to the retarded, be sure to speak slowly, enunciate your words clearly, and use simple diction where possible. Also, be prepared to repeat yourself, sometimes a handful of times, before your point gets across."

    Pretty much describes discourse with all your birther nutsackers, doesn't it?

    Don't let the door hit'cha where the good lord split'cha.
  • jlewd
    And partisan asshats like you just keep pulling "facts" out of their corpulent, racist asses. Go fuck yourself, retard. You clearly aren't open to reason, or even capable of reason. No doubt years of bumping your sloping forehead into the rock door of your cave has further reduced what passes for intelligence in your redneck of the woods. Seek medical assistance: they may not be able to cure your congenital retardation caused by generations of sibling fucking, but they may be able to help with the brain trauma you suffer.
  • jlewd
    What a surprise: another retard handjob congressman from the South.
  • There goes Jindal's chances.
  • runninbear
    Now show us the hawaiian C.O.L.B. of his half sister who was borned in jakata,Indonesia who just happens to have a C.O.L.B. which this is said to have been photo shopped from?
    Hey Barrack Hussien ObamaII/Barry Soetoro show us the real deal ?Stop wasting "Taxpayers Money " to hide the truth?hey if you want to settle this lets see the "LONG FORM" with all the correct data on it? YEAH we thought you wouldn't but soon and we will see who laughs last?
  • fiftysomething
    This has got to be a parody or a joke. Tell me you're just trying to rile up the posters. The bad writing, blatantly false assumptions and meandering thoughts seem to be just too much. When OldAtlantic agrees w/you, you have hit the bottom
  • jlewd
    Dipshit, please shut the fuck up. This site already has a village idiot and his name is Old Asslantic. We don't need two retards fucking up the discourse.
  • OldAtlantic
    Excellent summary.
  • jlewd
    Like you'd know the difference, let alone the meanings of "excellent" or "summary".
  • AristotleTheHun
    Read this to debunk the latest Obot urban legend - Hawaii has the documents and they're accessible.
    The Obots can lie, lie, lie and otherwise obfuscate until the cows come home, and it won't change the fact that Hawaii has the documents and they're accessible.
    CNN/US Boss Is An Obama Agent - Hawaii does the avoid/evade dance

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/cnnus...

    Here is the law that authorizes any law enforcement agent to have access to AKA Obama’s real birth certificate. Gee, and AKA Obama just pissed off a whole lot of cops.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/how-t...
    Also see:
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-o...
  • J Lewd
    Obot -- your stupid fucking, unoriginal namecalling of the president pretty much tells us who you are: birther, Republican, racist.
  • AristotleTheHun
    Looking through a glass, darkly, at AKA Obama’s Birth Certificate.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/aka-o...

    The latest announcements from Hawaiian Officials aren’t any more help than their original announcement. Recently this was released:

    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago….”

    I don’t doubt that Dr. Fukino is accurately reporting that the document he saw says that AKA Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

    “Laws of the Territory of Hawaii ACT 96 To Provide For The Issuance Of Certificates Of Hawaiian Birth was in effect from 1911 until 1972 and allowed someone who was born outside the Hawaiian Islands to be registered as though he were born in Hawaii. Under that law, someone simply would have presented herself to the Hawaiian authorities and declared that the child was born in Hawaii. The person could have sworn under oath and presented witnesses and other evidence. If the authorities accepted it, that was the end of it. All a person had to do was file a false statement and Hawaii took them at their word.

    One could not just say "My kid was born in Des Moines but I want him to have a Hawaiian birth record". But if you lied no investigation was conducted to validate your claim and the Hawaiian birth record was issued no questions asked.

    Knowledge of this practice was wide spread and there are probably thousands of people who obtained Hawaiian birth records between 1911 and 1972 through the process of affidavits and witnesses rather than hospitals and delivery doctors.

    The only way to know where AKA OBAMA was actually born is to view AKA OBAMA's original birth certificate on file in Hawaii to see what kind of birth certificate it is, and to examine what corroborating evidence supports what it says about AKA OBAMA's alleged place of birth. If the birth was in a hospital, as AKA OBAMA has maintained, such evidence would be the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor who delivered him.”
    Excerpt from: http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-o...

    Here is the information on Hawaiian law that makes it clear why we will never know the truth until we see the actual birth certificate.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697
  • jlewd
    Nice try, but no matter how much ornament you put on a turd, it's still a turd. Your argument holds about as much water as your head holds intelligence -- e.g., scant fucking little.

    Let's see your fucking birth certificate.
  • AristotleTheHun
    Since you mentioned intelligence;
    I am a life time member of Mensa, membership # 1061487
  • AristotleTheHun
    Strange that you should ask.

    Can you pass the: Obama Eligibility Logic Test?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama...

    Such sleazy language. Do you live under the uninal in a low class bar?
  • OldAtlantic
    No matter how many times Hawaii law is reviewed for libs they just block it out.
  • jlewd
    Dumbass, do you actually think this man would have been allowed to run for President, let alone the Senate, if any of this were true? Christ, you fucktards get stupider by the day. Please stop watching Fox: it's clearly wrecking what little intelligence you had in the first place.
  • fiftysomething
    I don't even think Fox would have the cajones to push the talking points of the deniers w/out being called out. The place that the birthers get their info are places that don't have to answer for their misinformation. That's the reason you never see them on mainstream media outlets.
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