SC Lt. Gov. regrets comparing poor to animals, then does it again

By Daniel Tencer
Monday, January 25th, 2010 -- 1:56 pm
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andrebauer SC Lt. Gov. regrets comparing poor to animals, then does it againThe man who nearly became acting governor of South Carolina last year when his boss absconded to South America to visit his lover is now taking heat for comparing poor people to "stray animals."

South Carolina Lt.-Gov. Andre Bauer, a candidate for governor, made the comment during a town hall meeting on Friday. During a discussion of subsidized school lunches, Bauer argued that children should be denied reduced prices for school lunches if their parents fail a drug test or don't show up for parent-teacher meetings.

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed," Bauer said, as quoted at the South Carolina State. "You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better."

That drew immediate condemnation from the head of South Carolina's Democratic Party.

"Andre Bauer's crude utterances once again reveal his immaturity and poor judgment," said Carol Fowler, according to WIS-TV in Columbia. "Bauer is a bachelor who has never once had to worry about feeding a child of his own. His notion of punishing children by not feeding them because their parents missed a PTA meeting flies in the face of basic South Carolina values."

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Bauer told CNN Monday that he regretted using the stray animals metaphor.

"I wish I had used a different metaphor," Bauer said. "I never intended to tie people to animals."

But then the lieutenant-governor made another animal comparison. "If you have a cat, if you take it in your house and feed it and love it, what happens when you go out of town?" he asked, adding that he is "not against animals."

Bauer has repeatedly returned to the animal metaphor in his defense of Friday's remarks. At a gubernatorial forum on Saturday, he denied he was making the link at all.

"There's no way that I was trying to tie animals to people," he said. "What I was trying to talk about is the dependency culture, and just like when you feed an animal, you create a dependency."

Bauer came within a whisker of becoming governor of South Carolina last year when Gov. Mark Sanford disappeared for a week without explanation. Rumors of his hiking in the Appalachian Trail turned out not to be true; the governor had been in Argentina meeting with his mistress.

Sanford was nearly impeached last year over the scandal, as well as over questionable use of state aircraft. The committee investigating impeachment proceedings voted against impeachment, but voted in favor of censuring the governor. In December, Sanford's wife filed for divorce.

In an opinion piece at the Spartanburg Spark, Christopher George disputed Bauer's assertion that social-assistance programs create poverty by creating dependence.

[I]f it really is true that government assistance causes poverty, then why is it that the countries with the largest, most expansive social safety nets also have the lowest poverty rates? If food stamps, unemployment insurance, and free school lunches increased poverty, as you and your conservative friends claim, then how do you explain the fact that countries like Germany, France, Canada and The Netherlands—all of which have welfare systems far more advanced than ours—have lower poverty rates?

Some South Carolina officials, including State Superintendent Jim Rex, are calling for Bauer to apologize.

"If his intent was to blame children, who are not responsible for their own predicaments ... it is regrettable," Rex told WIS-TV.

The following audio was recorded at a town hall meeting in Fountain Inn, South Carolina, on Friday, January 22, 2009, and uploaded to YouTube by user ScarceNews.

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  • GunTotinLiberal
    Well, look at who is friends are. That tells us everything we need to know.

    http://towleroad.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c73025...
  • moneldogtags
    The SC dirt bag is using the tried and true rethug method of code word warfare. Look at their history: Family Values=White Christians, Tough on Crime=Lock up minorities, Welfare Mothers=Unwed Black women, and now Reduced Price Lunch Children=Poor (read minority) Children create poverty. They use simple terms to legitimately spread their bigotry to the ignorant. And the worst part is that it WORKS.
  • Lyman
    People like this are absolute vermin.
    They have never worked or carried their own weight for one moment
    in their their entire lives, These vile scum should be exterminated.
  • rts111
    This is the same racist thinking based in practices of eugenics that eventually led to pre-WWII fascism, or at least contributed to the apathy that helped legitimize fascism.

    In The Mismeasure of Man, Stephen Jay Gould tells a history of a biased anthropological regime on both sides of the Atlantic, that characterized certain groups as inferior.
    Those groups were subject to euthanasia in fascist Germany. BTW, the same killing apparatus/procedure that was used to carry out the Holocaust was first used to kill inferior German sub-groups, like gypsies, the mentally ill, and probably, the homeless.

    My point is, Bauer's comment is hate-speech that comes from the root of all hate-speech.
  • PleaseFixSC
    The problem with South Carolina is that our legislators have a $10,000 a year salary. Without perks and bonuses that means only the independently wealthy and clergy can afford to be representatives. Market forces dictate low quality. Conservatives should acknowledge this.

    Drug testing people on unemployment, who have paid into the unemployment insurance fund and meet the qualifications for benefits, is an undeserved indignity. It wasn't more than three years ago that SC's state treasurer was impeached for dealing cocaine. I think he's out of the halfway house now, but he's still subject to regular drug testing.

    In any case, the voter anger in South Carolina is meaningless because the quality of candidates is simply never going to be there. Make the legislative jobs pay a good wage. Then we'll have quality candidates fighting for those jobs.
  • Too bad Sanford wasn't impeached. South Carolina could have had its first gay governor.
  • wiseturtle
    fyall... another rednecked, inbred, punk assed nazi wannabe!!
  • wiseturtle
    aerojef & old atlantic apprear to have been bred by their sister..
  • markusgarvey
  • FYALL
    This guy is right on the money.
    Don't like my comment? Tough shit.
    I will do everything in my power to see the Republicans win every seat they run for this year,
  • markusgarvey
    you would fit right in...in china...or Nazi Germany... and as far as the neocons taking over OUR govt, good luck with that, don't put all you money on that bet though, you will end up on welfare...:)
  • carol h.
    He is a Republican. And if that does not mean racism, sexism, lack of conscience, and lack of decency then nothing does. We read their remarks daily from one source or another. From every state and on the floor of the house and senate of the US.

    They are what they are. Destructive of fair and open government. They are the theocratic, fascist, oligarchy of America. You can see it in his vapid, empty face. This is a man without real relevance. In other words he is perfect for that state and this party. They are all inter-changeable. It is too bad his mother was not on the pill. People like him are the best reason for birth control. They are Republicans.
  • OldAtlantic
    Extending civil rights to animals is a lib cause. You can look it up. Is mandatory insurance next? Single payer?
  • markusgarvey
    my dog says he wants to bite you...
  • OldAtlantic
    Do you have health insurance for your dog? What if it gets cancer or heart disease? Is your plan to put it to sleep to save money? Will there even be a dog death panel? Just like Obama plans to put white people to sleep. Libs are already asleep.
  • markusgarvey
    youth in Asia will kill your grandmother!...are you Sarah Palin?...
  • Cyberjazz
    The State of "You Lie (boy)" is amazing! The Gov. steals State money & props to screw
    a lady in Argentina! You have (gay blade) Lindsey who doesn't know to flirt with McCain
    or Liberman. The other Senator "demented" is another bigot who thrives for an opportunity
    to take the platform to call Mr. President a (nig-nig)!

    However it's just something about S.C. that brings out the (Nigger) in a lot folks! Ahh
    Slick Willie (comment about Jesse Jackson) during Obama's rout to the Office!

    Now this idiot Racist fool Bauer speaking truth to his BASE! Pitiful
  • mmeflutterbye
    This guy is really stupid for letting the cat out of the bag. This is the way Republicans really think. It's the hidden part of their platform. Go to hell, Bauer! and take your Republican NAZI Party with you.
  • aerojef
    Sure! Feed the hell out of them and let them breed. You create voters for you, you dumbass!

    Plus, they can all work at Walmart and let the old-timers there and enjoy what's left of their social security and medicare.
  • wiseturtle
    old atlantic....eat shit, you disinformation agent!!!
  • mmeflutterbye
    It might be too late~!
  • wiseturtle
    One sick little gay boy...that bauer!!!
  • disgusted
    Lets hope he dies before he breeds.
  • offspring
    i grew up in a trailer park, we where poor, and as far as this, well to be honest I agree with them, educated, or middle class people dont riot and destroy their own communities busniess's, they don't go around mugging 98 yr old women, drive by's or gang fights, or just beating someone because they are different, on a regular daily event. We grew up knowing how to abuse and use the system, and the welfare system was easy to manipulate, then you go around play the sad, poor, frustrated act, or racism, and get your way, and while you get all the hand outs, take advantage of the social programs, and get some doc to say your mental so you can get social security, or section 8 housing, you still play the victim, when is the fact that these people need to get off their ass's take responsibility for their lives, and actions, and if they want better do like everyone else does and go to f'n work. And dont say there are no jobs, there are jobs, there are just to many people who believe they are above working them. I have worked alot of crap jobs, with rude people, or situations. Did I like it? Hell no, but I liked eating and having a roof over my head better. I have seen way to many people play this idea that because your poor your allowed to act out, beat rob and do whatever, and breed like freakin rabbits when you know, you know that you cant afford to maintain the standard of living for the child, but it doesn't matter, because you know, with a child you get more WIC stamps, also free medical, and prenatal, along with this in womens case's not men's, they have programs for you the poor single mother stick, to get into education free class's in many states, and free or near free day care, and also more social security money, and allotments, so yea from me the simple tax payer, I would love it if you stoped breeding for profit, and grew the hell up and realized that your just raising another welfare tit kid. We used to have a saying, do you know how to starve a lazy person, you put there food stamps under their workboots.
  • markusgarvey
    "educated, or middle class people don't riot and destroy their own communities business's, they don't go around mugging 98 yr old women, drive by's or gang fights, or just beating someone because they are different, on a regular daily event."...yeah...they find out legal ways to rip people and the system off and get rid of their enemy's...

    "And dont say there are no jobs, there are jobs, there are just to many people who believe they are above working them." ...try feeding your family and keep a roof over their head working at burger king...you are an idiot...you live in a bubble...
  • offspring
    i grew up in a trailer park, we where poor, and as far as this, well to be honest I agree with them, educated, or middle class people dont riot and destroy their own communities busniess's, they don't go around mugging 98 yr old women, drive by's or gang fights, or just beating someone because they are different, on a regular daily event. We grew up knowing how to abuse and use the system, and the welfare system was easy to manipulate, then you go around play the sad, poor, frustrated act, or racism, and get your way, and while you get all the hand outs, take advantage of the social programs, and get some doc to say your mental so you can get social security, or section 8 housing, you still play the victim, when is the fact that these people need to get off their ass's take responsibility for their lives, and actions, and if they want better do like everyone else does and go to f'n work. And dont say there are no jobs, there are jobs, there are just to many people who believe they are above working them. I have worked alot of crap jobs, with rude people, or situations. Did I like it? Hell no, but I liked eating and having a roof over my head better. I have seen way to many people play this idea that because your poor your allowed to act out, beat rob and do whatever, and breed like freakin rabbits when you know, you know that you cant afford to maintain the standard of living for the child, but it doesn't matter, because you know, with a child you get more WIC stamps, also free medical, and prenatal, along with this in womens case's not men's, they have programs for you the poor single mother stick, to get into education free class's in many states, and free or near free day care, and also more social security money, and allotments, so yea from me the simple tax payer, I would love it if you stoped breeding for profit, and grew the hell up and realized that your just raising another welfare tit kid. We used to have a saying, do you know how to starve a lazy person, you put there food stamps under their workboots.
  • markusgarvey
    what about people like the Duggar family? http://www.duggarfamily.com/ or the quiverfull people http://www.quiverfull.com/ ...these people breed like rats!.. and they even get their own TV shows!...
  • offspring
    the duggar family? You do know that most of the kids plus the father have actual jobs not just the tv stuff, right. And also they accept no goverment welfare nor have they in the past. I think the poor as this man is stating are those that know they are poor, and knowing this bring a child into a situation where they cannot maintain quality of life as before for themselves and the child, and therefore suck the tax payer dry.
  • markusgarvey
    well gee...i guess they don't need a TV show to support themselves then...maybe i should make a bunch of children, put them to work so i can make more children..if they wnt that many kids, they would garner my respect if they would adopt children, instead of using a womb for a clown car...their agenda is to keep breeding as many children as they can in order to use them to impose their religious doctrine on society...not to mention all the tax money they get for having kids...many people have cattle just to get the tax write off...
  • LPM49
    To quote Mr. Spicoli: "YOU DICK ! ! !" That about sums it up for Mr. Bauer
  • damixaustex
    hmm, I'd like to hear him reconcile feeding Haitis poor after the earthquake and granting farm subsidies to South Carolina's farmers or tax breaks to South Carolina's huge banking interests.
  • Satan
    Wow, set him free on a little Island and I'll bet people would pay to hunt him down and kill him. I'd pay a million dollars if I had it.

    I admit I took that idea from an episode of Fantasy Islad, but I think they ripped it off too.
  • drunkfoulmouthfilathybeast
    The guys never know when to quit. From a layman's pov, he's and others like this S.C Lt. gov is going to spout off someday and some looney is going to walk up with what looks like a campaign contrubution in one hand and swing around with the other hand wielding a deadly weapon and blow their liver all the way to the morgue. And how thoughtful, the other hand mistaken for a contribution will clutch a free tag for the toe.
  • Syed
    Let us think realistically and not emotionally. I know of women who acquire a BF, get a child by him nad then throw him out of the house, as they have another body they can collect money for. Poor people should not be compared with animals, no doubt, a poor choice of words, but DO NOT ENCOURAGE BASTARDS COME TO LIFE EITHER. Help the poor get educated. If a child is born out of wedlock, take it away and do not let the parents see him/her.
  • michaelvalentine
    Wow how embarrassing for the people of South Carolina, or do they approve of such talk?
  • rexozone
    Nowhere is there a better representative of Republican and Conservative values than this guy. The tea parties were manufactured and widely paid for their dissent but it didn't take much more than this kind of philosophy to promote and sustain and crow about them. His detachment from suffering and lack of identity with humanity confirms his GOP credentials. I can see smirks from the rest.
    This is what we are up against...think of that regarding bipartisanship.
  • duedah
    he obviously has never had a cat either. just like the kiddies, when you go out of town you arrange for someone to take care of the kitties. Never have come home to a trashed house or a pregnant cat after a vacation lol what an idiot
  • pcinsc
    As a South Carolinian, I am horrified and disgusted by what this idiot has to say. His attitude towards the poor is typical of his ilk - as several other commenters have noted. Whether de-humanizing the disadvantaged, or inadvertently creating a new euphemism for having illicit sex, the political class here is loaded with the vilest scumbags one could imagine.
  • gr8fuldaniel
    Feed him to the coyotes
  • alverant
    "If you have a cat, if you take it in your house and feed it and love it, what happens when you go out of town?" ummmm you get a trusted neighbor to come in and check on your cat occasionally.
  • blechh
    What a pig!
  • Hologram5
    This toolshed needs a swift and deliberate beating. This guy is an asshat beyond reproach.
  • OldAtlantic
    Bauer has explained the Haiti problem. Aid orgs fed Haiti to the Malthusian limit. The earthquake was the trigger, but the powder was the aid orgs. They should have to reimburse the US Navy for its costs.
  • dennycrane
    It must be fun roaming the beer halls looking for dumbasses to "learn" your turner diaries.
    Do you publish history books?
  • Savantster
    yeah, it has nothing to do with Americans (and others) wiping out their native boar population a while back, in fear of swine flu, then leaving them with no way to fend for themselves.. driving them all together in the port... right?

    Man.. i wish you'd suck on the business end of a glock.
  • markusgarvey
    wrong thread...
  • WJM51
    This bastard makes me embarrassed to be a white male. What the hell is going on in SC, anyway? Is this REALLY the best you can do? If there is ANYONE who should be prevented from fathering children, it's him. We REALLY don't need any more scum like this in the country. We already have too many of them.

    Traditionally, the reason people had large families was to give them the economic edge, as those kids were put to work on the farm as soon as they could carry things. In the third world, it's still that way. If you have 10 kids, they can work on feeding the family (usually working 14 hours a day in a sweatshop), and at least ONE or two of them will survive to adulthood.

    The only people I would put in the same category as animals are republicans, who act more like a pack of wild dogs than anyone else I've ever seen. Goddamn, what a freaking PRICK!
  • markusgarvey
    don't be ashamed...this guy is obviously a product on inbreeding...you can tell by the limited intelligence and large head...
  • Savantster
    "f you have 10 kids, they can work on feeding the family (usually working 14 hours a day in a sweatshop), and at least ONE or two of them will survive to adulthood."

    Only, with all the aid and medicine we (advanced societies) provide, 8 of the 10 survive. Their poverty is still there, but the terrible direct side effects are partially removed.. now we have the longer term side effects of THAT.. double digit population growth in some of these places.

    Education and ensuring people don't feel the need to have 10 kids to hope 1 lives to care for them.. that's gonna stop the population explosion. If we don't fix that, in 30 - 40 years we'll be at 12 billion people, and that's about 50% more than the carrying capacity of the planet (estimated at 8 billion or so). Some nations will be war zones coupled with open pit burial mounds.

    It's gonna get ugly.
  • WJM51
    Agreed. It's been shown many, many times in study after study that when economic conditions improve, people have LESS kids. If this piece of republican shit in SC would read something, he would know that if you want LESS poor people, you improve their standard of living. It's that simple.

    The way the world is being run by the greedy and the selfish is a guarantee that we will hit that 12 billion sooner rather than later. And the more they bitch and make sure that there are more and more poor, the more they make the thing they are complaining about worse. But they would much rather spew their hate for those who weren't born with Daddy's money in their back pocket than give up a little to FIX the problem. Greed and hate is ALL they know. Unless it comes from one of those two places, it's just not real to them. And it costs the other 98% of us in the world every time.

    Christ said "the poor are always with us". I say it's time to do something about the rich, who I see as the real problem to the vast majority of the world's problems.
  • alfredo
    In my native Finland all children receive free lunches now. (we didn't when I went to school there). We were a big family. Most families were big. Now there are only small families. To my knowledge non of my siblings or cousins have more than three children. (I have about 40 first cousins). Of course a lot of other things have happened there too since I was a child.
    Like: every expectant mother receive free pre-natal care; free natal care, including delivery and hospital stay; free baby supplies like formulas, clothing, bassinet, 2 year paid maternity leave; monthly child allotment until the child is 18. And so on and on.
    The result: The birth rate in Finland is so low now that they actively recruit people from outside to take the place of retirees. Finland has taken in many times more refugees from Iraq than the U.S. has. Sweden much more than Finland.
  • enorceht
    maybe if you're under a certain dollar amount of income we should just gas anything coming out of a vagina ... oh wait ... that's kind of like abortion

    ok, ok then if you're under a certain dollar amount of income why bother giving them an education, let's do it the neo con way just lock them up now so we can use the death penality on them for being poor later
  • He is right in the sense that many people, rich or poor, do act like animals. Punishing the children however is a terrible idea.
  • Brigide
    I find this repulsive in the extreme. My father worked very hard and because there were 5 of us children we qualified for reduced price lunches. My brother and sisters are all CONTRIBUTING members of society unlike this utter douche bag. I hope he chokes on his five-star lunch someday.
  • omarwatts
    Sounds like this dude has some serious issues.

    RT
    www.online-privacy.int.tc
  • dennycrane
    After reading the book, "The Theory and Practice of Hell," I can see his logic. It belongs back in germany during the late '30's and would have ended up at the Nuremberg Trials.
  • ignatzfattis
    Of course -his statement only makes sense if he dosent believe in civilization -ironically his mindset is more animalistic than human -even the most primitive human group makes provisions for the welfare of it's needy members. Bauer's grandmother must have been one mean cold-hearted old biddy -and obviously encouraged it in her children and grandchildren.
  • justadood
    Still....his advice might be sound: Stop feeding the Bigots, they'll breed......
  • Savantster
    The problem is this moron doesn't see how this applies to ALL humans, even those that "earn a good living", then have families of 6, 8, or 10 kids. THAT is killing the planet! .. but, being a bigot, he only sees the problem if you're poor, if his desire to have more then he could ever possibly need means you have to go hungry, then he figures, "tough.. die out a slow miserable death, that's nature".. yet, this fucktard would be long since worm food if not for the big brains of a very tine portion of the people in history. The VERY few smart people out there have paved the way for the MASSIVE NUMBERS of morons (like this mouth breather) to over populate. Kettle, pot.. pot, kettle.

    these "people" make me sick.
  • markusgarvey
    this guy is proof that abortion can be a good thing sometimes...the world would be a better place without him and his ilk...
  • alfredo
    Maybe it (the abortion),in this case at least, could be made retroactive? Se I don't believe in capital punishment.
  • indyman
    YES, YES, and YES again. Punish the child for what the parents do. The children are responsible for the parents. PUNISH that child. That way the parent will do better. Good Republican and Christian values. My how pround Jesus must be of these stone harted Republicans
  • nightbear
    typical gop...human filth!
  • ignatzfattis
    Yep -this is how most Republican politicians think -they usually don't let it slip in public though.

    Bauer wasnt kidding when he said his grandmother was "uneducated" -he could have added "uncivilized" and "un-Christian" as well. Must have been one mean cold-hearted old lady.
  • ignatzfattis
    AND I bet along with the poor, non-white is strongly implied -"don't provide for the minorities -they will breed" -it fits right in with the mindset.
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