Ron Paul: After ‘CIA coup,’ agency ‘runs military’

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Wednesday, January 20th, 2010 -- 6:10 pm
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ronpauldebate Ron Paul: After CIA coup, agency runs militaryUS House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a "coup" against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be "taken out."

Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty regional conference in Atlanta this past weekend, the Texas Republican said:

There's been a coup, have you heard? It's the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They're the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries. ... And of course the CIA is every bit as secretive as the Federal Reserve. ... And yet think of the harm they have done since they were established [after] World War II. They are a government unto themselves. They're in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators ... We need to take out the CIA.

Paul's comments, made last weekend, were met with a loud round of applause, but they didn't gather attention until bloggers noticed a clip of the event at YouTube.

Paul appeared to be referring to news reports that the CIA is deeply involved in air strikes against Al Qaeda targets in Afghanistan and Pakistan. A suicide bombing late last year against Forward Operating Base Chapman in Afghanistan took the lives of seven of CIA operatives, including two contracted from Blackwater. The event highlighted the CIA's deep involvement in the war effort.

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Paul's reference to the CIA being "in the drug business" refers to long-running allegations that the CIA has funded some of its covert operations with proceeds from drug-running. That claim was most famously made in a 1996 investigative report from the San Jose Mercury-News, which alleged that cocaine from the Contra-Sandinista civil war in Nicaragua was making its way to the streets of L.A. via the CIA.

The following video was uploaded to the Web by user TNSONSOFLIBERTY, Jan, 15, 2010.

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  • Rwolf
    Since 2001 U.S. Government has established a large number Fusion Centers across the country that rely on local informants and databases to collect information that might prevent terrorism, then share that information with different state, local and federal law enforcement agencies. But more recently Fusion Centers shifted from their stated mission to pursing all crimes and hazards; and expanded to collecting and sharing confidential information about Americans who have nothing to do with Terrorism or Crime with government agencies and select private companies. Fusion Centers to circumvent Citizens’ Fourth Amendment Rights, take advantage of ambiguous lines of authority to manipulate differences in federal, state and local laws to maximize information collection. Now that a Rand/Army Report appears to have called for a hybrid military/law enforcement unit, a Federal “Stabilization Force” that could potentially be used domestically and Obama before elected, stated he wanted a “Civilian National Security Force” which he never clarified, it should be expected Fusion Centers would provide information about Americans to both proposed security forces.

    In retrospect, Hitler created a “Civilian National Security Force”, the Gestapo the contraction of Geheime Staatspolizei for "Secret State Police." In 1934 the Gestapo was placed under SS leader Heinrich Himmler the Chief of German Police. Then in 1939 all German Police agencies were put under the control of the "Reich Main Security Office” the equivalent of U.S. Homeland Security. Does the Nazi merging of German local law enforcement including its federal Secret Police under its Main Security Office”, sound familiar, when you consider Rand proposals to the U.S. Army include a rapid deployment "Stabilization Force" that has the potential of being sent into any State against the wishes of its Citizens? States need to have the power to refuse entry to Federal Shock Troops.

    Obama appears intended to subvert Constitutional and State Rights? For example President Obama's recent Executive Order EO 12425 put INTERPOL above the United States Constitution, beyond the legal reach of our own top law enforcement. Obama’s Executive Order authorized INTERPOL to act within the United States without being subject to 4th Amendment Search and Seizure laws. It would appear INTERPOL can now tap American phones without a warrant. And that U.S. Police can use INTERPOL to circumvent the Fourth Amendment to arrest Americans and or forfeit their assets simply by bringing INTERPOL into a criminal or civil investigation.
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  • Charles Herbers
    Ron Paul is speaking the truth we all know this.
    He is a brave an honorable man
    A true American who is standing and calling on us to stand with him.

    I ask you, When will we stand together, we are not sheep, our fathers were not sheep
    We dare not fail to rise. For far more then the our honor ,our family our future as a free people are at stake .But the very virtuous horrific struggle of our forefathers life long fight threw sweet blood and tears to give us this chance at living as a free people.
    I say we must stand for every thing that we are that is good.
    For every man, woman and child
    As the righteous men our fathers loved and raised
  • Charles Herbers
    Ron Paul is speaking the truth we all know this.
    He is a brave an honorable man
    A true American who is standing and calling on us to stand with him.

    I ask you, When will we stand together, we are not sheep, our fathers were not sheep
    We dare not fail to rise. For far more then the our honor ,our family our future as a free people are at stake .But the very virtuous horrific struggle of our forefathers life long fight threw sweet blood and tears to give us this chance at living as a free people.
    I say we must stand for every thing that we are that is good.
    For every man, woman and child
    As the righteous men our fathers loved and raised
  • beijingyankee
    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm

    Porter Goss and Barry Seal...wow...the drug running goes way back...
  • CIA Killed JFK. Kennedy wanted to "splinter the CIA into 1000-pieces."
  • blinkerbill
    what's new. they were running drugs in Nam in the 60's and 70's. They propped up Noriega in
    Panama. They have always been there to do the dirty work. It is a dirty world full of bad people.
    They have taken the same oath as all who serve. "To oppose and defend against all enemies both foreign and domestic". Those who think we need to rid ourselves of such an organization do not opperate in the real world. Covert opperations are a necessary evil. Without them we as a country are doomed.
    If you believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Ferry, then maybe we can do without the CIA.
    If America is to remain a shinning light and an example of democracy and capitalism we need someone free to do the dirty work and keep the bad guys at bey.
  • It all makes sense when you learn that the first four DCI's (Directors Central Intelligence) were former Wall Street banksters. Google the video "THE TRUTH & LIES OF 9/11" by Mike Ruppert, former LAPD officer that stood up on CSPAN and openly accused the DCI director John Deutch of the same thing Ron Paul has, that being the CIA and drug.
  • Bastiat's Ghost
    Stay away from small aircraft Dr. Paul, and you might want to hire a food tester as well.

    For anyone who doubts the operations of the CIA watch this clip from John Stockwell (former CIA veteran):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3ioJGMCr-Y

    And read some Bastiat while you're at it:

    That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen

    http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html

    The Law

    http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html
  • grampa_goat
    Dotmafia, unlike Hezbollah, which was created as a response to IDF aggression and murder, the CIA actively seeks out trouble in order to manipulate other governments and essentially function as global rabble-rousers. The Revolutionary Guard is nothing more than an Iranian version of the Marine Corps. The Revolutionary Guard isn't used as an invasion force against other countries, whereas the Marine Corps are deployed as an immediate response team to "hot spots" and flare-ups". Haiti is a recent example. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard has been active in Iraq because Iran has an interest in keeping an eye on the US military, which has certainly invaded and all but destroyed that country. It's natural for them to be involved with people whom they share a common interest and on top of that they played an important part in negotiating peace with factions within Iraq. Time and again the CIA has admitted to many wrong doings (Mossedegh, 1980s Afghanistan, Vietnam, MK Ultra, Iran-Contra etc.) are are completely out of control in the present. The very fact that Ron Paul has openly challenged both the CIA and Federal Reserve is at a minimum ballsy and in the greater sense an inspiration to people who believe the preservation of liberty and freedom are the true issues which are currently threatened by what is arguably the most corrupt government in the world. My wish to all is to keep your chin up and remember that liberty and freedom won't ever be crushed no matter how bad things become because as long as people are alive then such values will never go away.
  • callywog
    Ever since I discovered the masses were too stupid to heed Paul's word on monetary policy and foreign affairs, I realized there was far more money to be made off the people's ignorance and greed. I used to marvel at how many partisan lemmings would yell Paultard the minute he would say something that forced them to think....now I just smile because I know the market is full of imbeciles. Basically I think Paul is fighting a losing battle because of the stubborn idiocy of the average American....but that same braindead audience has been rewarding to me financially.
  • sibkiss
    Many events have been linked to the CIa since JFK, and I am tired of the Feds letting them run circles around the US Constitution. We have to come to terms with this. Thank you Ron Paul for telling it like it is, but from now on you better duck!
  • Michael
    The word is starting to get out about law enforcement's involvement in illegal drugs. Its the largest single industry in the world says one expert. (Trillions of dollars each year) US Congressman from Texas and Pres. Candidate, Ron Paul has started by proclaiming the CIA is involved in this business. Paul's reference to the CIA being "in the drug business" refers to long-running allegations that the CIA has funded some of its covert operations with proceeds from drug-running. That claim was most famously made in a 1996 investigative report from the San Jose Mercury-News, which alleged that cocaine from the Contra-Sandinista civil war in Nicaragua was making its way to the streets of L.A. via the CIA. (Google and Youtube this.) "There's been a coup, have you heard? It's the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They're the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries. ... And of course the CIA is every bit as secretive as the Federal Reserve. ... And yet think of the harm they have done since they were established [after] World War II. They are a government unto themselves. They're in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators ... We need to take out the CIA." Paul knows, as many American's do, that there is much more to this illegal drug story. And this is a start. Justice 4 Jonathan is another side of this story. God will use Jonathan's story over time to expose this cancer on America and eventually bring justice to this land. Praise the Lord for Jonathan Ayers (preacher murdered by law enforcement on 9-1-09) and Ron Paul. Hopefully, his son will one day grow up to live in a drug free society.
  • ArmyWife
    I think Ron Paul needs to shut the fuck up. I also think that unless you were over there fighting the assholes who are trying to blow you up you should keep your mouth shut as well. Ignorance is your greatest downfall here. Blackwater is separate from the CIA and its possible that the CIA hired a few operators from Blackwater to do what they could not. But why does it matter? Do none of you understand the dangers in Afghanistan? Al Qaeda is a group of deeply disturbed power control religious nut bags. They have killed and mamed so many brave Americans I am disgusted to see this amount of non support.

    Regaurdless Ron Paul needs to shut the fuck up. And most of you need to shut the fuck up, open your eyes and start supporting your troops
  • John
    The Charles Hardman crime syndicate family,along with sons Chris,Sean,and Doug, are the 'Heart of it All' in Ohio. CIA-DEA-Homeland 'Security'-Drug Dealing-Cover up of Catholic Pedophile scandals. Now they are posing as United Methodists, though their verifiable roots through matriarch JohnHardman are with the Jesuit Order of the Catholic church and OSS.
  • a_citizen_of_the_united_states
    I don't know which group in our government does this stuff, CIA, FISA, or if they all cooperate together, but the targeting of American citizens by these groups in our own country is a FACT! So many things I've heard from targets ( see the group FFCHS and others on the net) remind me of nazi Germany while hitler came to power, like the brown shirts, and youth gangs terrorizing the mentally ill, gay, the elderly, or Jewish people.

    One of their favorite things to do is the gaslighting of the mentally ill or whistle-blowers. To them it's like playing a video game, but with real people in place of characters on a screen. It is hard for someone mentally ill to get anyone to believe they are a target, so nothing is done and the subject has to endure the torture. The goal is to land the victim in a mental ward, or reduce their credibility in the case of whistle-blowers.

    All I know is the group(s) who do this ARE terrorists right in this country doing deliberate harm to US citizens and getting away with it. From what I know, they create a network of perpetrators from the top down to local law enforcement and youth gangs. Many perps had to take an oath to preserve and protect the consitiution of the United States. Well it seems like they just say the words to get to where they can satisfy their sadistic tendencies without fear of prosecution. How did it get this way in the USA? The sick-minded hiring the sick-minded with no oversight, and then being protected from prosecution with the excuse that the info that could show them culpable is 'CLASSIFIED'!

    Just try to petition the FISA court with a FOIA request for records on yourself and see what happens..... "We will neither confirm or deny the existance of such records"... and they site the law that allows this to happen. In case you don't know about FISA, you (a citizen of the USA) can be charged with a crime, be put on trial, be convicted of the charges, and have your constitutional rights revoked, ALL WITHOUT HAVING TO TELLING YOU. You have no right to know the charges, face your accusers, answer the charges, have legal council, etc. Due process GONE! What a racket...Huh. The credability of the evidence brought into the court is not fully scrutinized, so it is easy to be put on the FISA list by some government worker or official who hates you or your views, so you will be harassed for a long time and used in experiments on how much harassing and what types are effective, etc. They can and will bug your home and tap your communications forever, and profile you negatively in your community or where ever you move to. THIS IS NOT THE AMERICA I GREW UP IN OR WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK IT IS ANYMORE. FISA is used to torture and experiment on US citizens. MK_ULTRA, COINTELPRO, FISA...whatever!!!!...............

    There are weapons now that are used on people that do great harm and are hard to prove the existance of, or that they've been used on a person. Namely the Sonic Weapon (google the term for more info.) described as "A powerful ultrasound beam which can liquefy living tissue." that disrupts the cells in the body, goes right through windows and walls, and cause great damage to whatever area of the body they are focused on. I'm a victim. Also the microwave gun that emits a powerful focused beam of microwave energy, which also goes through walls and windows, and causes great damage to tissue if the beam is made strong enough. A lower powered version is currently used to disperse crowds (look it up if you doubt). "Voice To Skull" is a weapon that somehow beams sound to the skull, bypassing the eardrum. It is used to make unsuspecting victims "hear voices in their head" and has done mental harm to many people. The ultrasonic noise making weapon (I don't know the correct term or name of it) that makes people and animals nervous by subjecting them to frequencies above or below human hearing that effect the nervous system. The victim notices a high-pitched ringing in one or both ears at first, and is unexplicably on edge or anxious. Just try to tell the police in your town what you experienced and see what happens. This harassment is used to make one appear mentally unstable and a canidate for the mental ward.

    I find it hard to believe our current president condones this. I pray that he will put an end to this! PLEASE MAKE THIS STOP MR. PRESIDENT, and bring those responsible to justice! It is hard to love a country that hurts you. It is hard to be hated in the world because you are American. It is hard to see the dream of the founding fathers of our country destroyed. It is a disgrace to undo the sacrifices of all the soldiers who fought to protect the freedom and constitution of the United States.

    You just have to keep having hope and love the good citizens and public officials who aren't in on this. You have to hope and pray as well as write letters to government officials, and inform the people in a credible non-violent mannor. But you can never let them turn you into the ugly thing that they are, no matter how much they try to destroy you.











  • a_citizen_of_the_united_states
    I don't know which group in our government does this stuff, CIA, FISA, or if they all cooperate together, but the targeting of American citizens by these groups in our own country is a FACT! So many things I've heard from targets ( see the group FFCHS and others on the net) remind me of nazi Germany while hitler came to power, like the brown shirts, and youth gangs terrorizing the mentally ill, gay, the elderly, or Jewish people.

    One of their favorite things to do is the gaslighting of the mentally ill or whisle-blowers. It is hard for someone mentally ill to get anyone to believe they are a target, so nothing is done and the subject has to endure the torture. The goal is to land the victim in a mental ward, or reduce their credibility in the case of whistle-blowers.

    All I know is the group(s) who do this ARE terrorists right in this country doing deliberate harm to US citizens and getting away with it. From what I know, they create a network of perpetrators from the top down to local law enforcement and youth gangs. Many perps had to take an oath to preserve and protect the consitiution of the United States. Well it seems like they just say the words to get to where they can satisfy their sadistic tendencies without fear of prosecution. How did it get this way in the USA? The sick-minded hiring the sick-minded with no oversight, and then being protected from prosecution with the excuse that the info that could show them culpable is 'CLASSIFIED'!

    Just try to petition the FISA court with a FOIA request for records on yourself and see what happens..... "We will neither confirm or deny the existance of such records"... and they site the law that allows this to happen. In case you don't know about FISA, you (a citizen of the USA) can be charged with a crime, be put on trial, be convicted of the charges, and have your constitutional rights revoked, ALL WITHOUT HAVING TO TELLING YOU. You have no right to know the charges, face your accusers, answer the charges, have legal council, etc. Due process GONE! What a racket...Huh. The credability of the evidence brought into the court is not fully scrutinized, so it is easy to be put on the FISA list by some government worker or official who hates you or your views, so you will be harassed for a long time and used in experiments on how much harassing and what types are effective, etc. They can and will bug your home and tap you communications forever, and profile you negatively in your community or where ever you move to. THIS IS NOT THE AMERICA I GREW UP IN OR WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK IT IS ANYMORE. FISA is used to torture and experiment on US citizens. MK_ULTRA, COINTELPRO, FISA...whatever!!!!...............

    There are weapons now that are used on people that do great harm and are hard to prove the existance of, or that they've been used on a person. Namely the Sonic Weapon (google the term for more info.) described as "A powerful ultrasound beam which can liquefy living tissue." that disrupts the cells in the body, goes right through windows and walls, and cause great damage to whatever area of the body they are focused on. I'm a victim. Also the microwave gun that emits a powerful focused beam of microwave energy, which also goes through walls and windows, and caused great damage to tissue if the beam is made strong enough. A lower powered version is currently used to disperse crowds (look it up if you doubt)

    I find it hard to believe our current president condones this. I pray that he will put an end to this! PLEASE MAKE THIS STOP MR. PRESIDENT, and bring those responsible to justice! It is hard to love a country that hurts you. It is hard to be hated in the world because you are American. It is hard to see the dream of the founding fathers of our country destroyed. It is a disgrace to undo the sacrifices of all the soldiers who fought to protect the freedom and constitution of the United States.

    You just have to keep having hope and love the good citizens and public officials who aren't in on this. You have to hope and pray as well as write letters to government officials, and inform the people in a credible non-violent mannor. But you can never let them turn you into the ugly thing that they are, no matter how much they try to destroy you.
  • David
    Remember the TV show "Alias" with Jennifer Garner? It showed how big banks and big spy agencies like the CIA are in bed together, sharing facilities and secure data links around the world. And did you know central bank big shots like Bernanke and Rockefeller and Rothshild have full diplomatic immunity under international law, and their banks are untouchable like embassies? Of course the CIA is running things...they are the enforcement team for billionaire bankers and the
    "Captains of Industry"! God bless Ron Paul! JFK was killed shortly after threatening to break the CIA. And recall George H.W. Bush was a CIA operative in Dallas that fateful day in 1963, and later became CIA Director. Do some research, folks...it'll cause your hair to stand up!
  • I don't know if Hunter Thompson committed suicide or not. But there's no doubt the C.I.A. was capable of assassinating him and making it look like a suicide. And there's no doubt they'd have done it if they saw him as a threat to our "security."

    The C.I.A. is a lawless body, answerable to no one. The stuff that goes on isn't even known by the White House and Congress. Ron Paul is best advised not to board any private planes in the next few months.
  • Mark
    Ron Paul for President! Actually, he had better be careful because the CIA will assassinate him.
  • Jct: What spine. I love Ron Paul. Too bad he's such a dinosaur when it comes to interest-free community currencies. But other than his antiquated low-tech grasp of how money systems really work, http://johnturmel.com/bankmath.htm , he's a prince.
  • sheepherder
    The CIA is the Nazi OSS brought to the USA after the war. This is a known fact. It is also a known fact that George H. W. Bush is not American born. His real last name is Scherff and he was a Nazi officer. Prescott Bush, Rothschild, Rockefeller et all financed Hitler and brought the Nazi OSS to the USA after the war. The CIA is a criminal organization who not only runs drugs for the banking cartel, but are in fact the Federal Reserve enforcers and they pledge alleigance not to the USA, but to the financial elite. Ron Paul is right.
  • Obama = CIA

    Obama's first job out of Columbia: Business International Corporation, which has a long history of providing cover for the CIA with covert action, and infiltrating unions and the left.
  • MK
    For those that really want to validate the facts behind what Ron Paul is saying should google Dr. Peter Beter and read his radio transcripts. Find out who ran the CIA from the beginning (the Rockefellers) and who took over the secret space programs like MJ12. Read worldreports.org written by a world wide expert in currency and find out what he has to say about the CIA. He's been breaking this story for years now. Read Anthony Sutton's books on the intelligence services including Wallstreet and the Bolsheviks. Read Eusace Mullins books about the Fed, the medical establishment etc. Read Josephson's book: "Your Life Is Their Game." Read the reformation.org about the Rockefellers and Ida Tarbell's book about Standard Oil. There is no doubt that the intelligence services have not only become the fashionable way for rich boys to expense their rich boy habits, but also the taxpayer-funded way to enforce the agenda of the international corporations. Google and watch a couple of John PIlger's videos on the international corporation heads meeting to discuss how they were going to divide up the world and get us to pay for it. Their enforcement arm? The intelligence services.
  • Joseph
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. CIA is the largest, most-funded terrorist network in the world. And they run on our tax dollars as we're slaved to lies and deception. Here is a list of CIA atrocities: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
  • Ron Paul is one of the few high-profile Americans with the guts to say this. He's also one of the few with the credibility to be believed.

    Recently a C.I.A. operative, asked by a reporter whether a particular overseas escapade wasn't illegal, replied, "Of course it's illegal. That's what we do." And if someone suggests the C.I.A. might have been behind J.F.K.'s assassination, or 9/11, or some other historical disaster, he's called a "conspiracy theorist" or someone who "hates America."

    I love America. I just hate a lot of things we do.
  • mscir
    Ron Paul for President!!!!!
  • we know
    dont forget the CIA import most of the narcotics and guns into this country
    How many qudrillions of OUR tax dollars go unreported in their BLACK BUDGETS


    looks like we have a replay of 'taxation w/o representation; situation here
    again
  • Ben
    Can you believe our taxes pay for the CIA yet most of what they do is kept secret until 20 or more years later? Then when it does become public the media hardly touches it! Look what they did to Chile, it was a long standing democratic country until the CIA led a coup and put Pinochet in power. The CIA is just another by-product of our huge government. Actions speak louder than words our politicians can talk and talk about american values, Joe the plumber, hard work and preserverance but their actions show their greed, lies and total disregard for americans and the democratic values we hold dear. Of course Ron Paul is a notable exception; I think he is ahead of his time. Most americans are unaware of what our government does, since the media will not dive deeper into the past issues. It is sad really. While I am still proud to be an american I feel that our government is too big and powerful and their is nothing we can do to stop it. Look at Vietnam! People quit their jobs and protested nonstop. There were crowds of people in DC everyday but the US still didn't end the war until like 10 years later! We still have troops in Vietnam! We are funding the US and their covert imperialistic agendas with our taxes.
    Of course the government does do some good but it seems that is all that we hear about, it is not a democratic nation, we have no voice. I think the government is a bit of a bully that promotes terror. We even have a color coded terror/threat meter, which our government gauges. It is more likely an american child, neglected by his/her overworked and overtaxed parents, will kill many US citizens in a shooting rampage than an islamic fundamentalist doing the same thing. How difficult is it to plant a bomb somewhere? To shoot people? It isn't difficult, it has already been proven a 12 year old can do it, yet we are not under any terrorist attacks! It is a threat but not a big threat and it hardly throws a shadow to what the US has done. Wasn't the CIA the reason for the war on Iraq which was supposed to be due to the weapons of mass destruction they were harboring although there were no such weapons? These people shouldn't be allowed to carry guns, explosives or even knives! All joking aside they should be arrested, "with liberty and justice for all" what hypocracy.
  • farang
    "CIA Coup"??? Why, that's the most anti-semitic thing I've ever heard......"
  • DJBALL
    Ron Paul is the man and watching him get demonized by the establishment after he was destroying everyone in the debates was sickening.
    THat's how i knew Ron PAul was the real deal was watching the media sycophant whores come out en masse and try to discredit him when he was clearly the only man speaking any truths vis a vis foreign policy or economy from either party, instead the slaves fell for the Obama deception.

    Thank you Ron Paul for calling it out.
  • DJBALL
    not to mention he was winning almost every poll after each debate and then was cut out and greased on his time and marginalized.....pathetic.
  • msfreeh
    I think those pedophiles over at the FBI could give CIA agents a run for their money....
    to view a partial list of crimes committed by FBI agents over 1500 pages long see
    http://www.forums.signonsandiego.com/showthread...

    to view a partial list of FBI agents arrested for pedophilia see
    http://www.dallasnews.com/forums/viewtopic.php?...
  • globalmarketwatch
    Interesting that no reference has been made to the CIA drug-running operation through Mena Airport, Arkansas, or to the Clinton 'connection'. See:
    http://www.mimico-by-the-lake.com/mena.htm and http://www.mimico-by-the-lake.com/clinvid1.htm...
  • tom
    amazing read. what's true and what's not
    life's short. Buy less, starve cc companies, starve em of money. people take back the power, don't just be sheeple consumer. that's one thing i got from this
    enjoy the day
  • Donald Duck
    I read on "Hot Air" that this is all nonsense. Let me explain somethings:

    - The Director of CIA was (Since the 1940's) the 'Director of Central Intelligence" which directed all intelligence agencies to include the DoD intel compartments on how to do their job and handle the information they got. It was later changed to "Director of National Intelligence" (Early 200's) which is now headed by former PACOM commander Dennis Blair. This was because the failure's of information sharing that resulted in 9/11. This new position was a recommendation from the 9/11 commission. Even then, the Director of CIA continues to butt heads with Dennis on how to run the intel community. Example is when Dennis's office tries to implement something community wide, the CIA sends out their own memo's saying otherwise which is like when a company excutive tell its empyoee's "We're going to do things this way" and someone else in the company who is in lower position, but acts in autonomy, says "Ignore that memo, we're going to do things our own way".

    Now that might not be enough to convince anyone that the CIA staged a coup, but I hope it would help everyone to find an undestanding where Dr. Paul is coming from on this which I find it to be very accurate (but vaguely stated) of the last 30 years of CIA behaviour.
  • ew_keane
    Brave guy. I hope the CIA knows that some will hold them responsible if some kind of accident happens to Ron.
  • Steve
    I noticed no one has mentioned Al Mossada and their close association with CIA.
  • stopthewar
    Can't we all just get along?
  • pammylou
    Awww idn't dat cute ? Are you Rodney King?
  • Mr.President
    I've dealt with the C.I.A. for more than 20 years.At one point they offered me the defacto Presidency,but when they found out that the first act as President that I would perform would have been the invasion of Israel and the overthrow of it's government,Kissinger decided to withdraw the offer of the Presidency.Now they just fly a fighter jet over my cabin now and then.The jet fuel consumed by the flight diversion of the fighter plane costs the American taxpayer,hundeds if not thousands of dollars.It is nice to be loved by the C.I.A..You think I'm kidding......you're wrong.
  • sathingtonwilloughby
    edit: that was a lot of incoherent drug babble, sorry.
  • timmy L
    The only good lasting thing it seems the CIA has done is accidently freed our minds with LSD back in the 60's when they were trying to do the exact opposite, Kontrol it. What hellish evil men and women hath wrought the grace of God will use to overcome. It's time for the world to heal and find love in our hearts.
  • big J
    t love i knew u where still w/ us !!!!!
  • pennsy 8180
    This country was overthrown when they assassinated John Kennedy 46 years ago.
  • Zac
    I agree. The US is run by the CIA, Pentagon and corporations (including media and finance). The US Government is the middleman between these entities and the public. I believe that Obama truly wanted to change things, but he cannot, he has to kowtow with those who have the power. Those people who blaming him that he is not offering change, including Ron Paul, should know better. Ron Paul says some great things but his actions don't display it. Ron Paul complaining about Obama while he knows that he has no power waters his words. Has Ron Paul fully condemned and disassociated himself totally from the Republican Party? Because, that party fully supports those that have the power.
  • Jay
    And now you know why everytime Paul comes up there are so many people so eager to smear him as a racist and a bigot.

    Anyone who said the things Paul has said would get the exact same treatment. Mother Theresa could come back from the grave and endorse Paul and she would be a homophobic Catholic radical the next day.
  • martydidier
    Oh really?? Actually there is a White House Coup underway similar to what happened in the last well known attempt in 1933. However the same group has done their homework and are busy putting together the remaining parts of their plan to finish the WH Coup.

    I know because I've been involved through marriage since the later 70s and I also have proof! I would love to help the movement of exposing this but no has been interested in learning the details!

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL
  • Ron Paul is right, not deluded. There is full factual proof that the CIA has been under the umbrella of George HW Bush and David Rockefeller, and is nothing more than a corrupt criminal agency.

    http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Team-Allies-Contro...

    There are countless books littered with facts of the CIA's complicity. Look into what Ron Paul is saying, don't look into Ron Paul at all.

    Watch how corrupt and disgusting the CIA actually is when you watch movies about it, such as the Bourne Supremacy and Book of Eli. It's corrupt.

    Most of the agency runs drugs, therefore it has always been corrupt. It needs to be abolished and dismantled and you know it- and these are not naive allegations by so called "victims"

    I'm talking about nothing but plain facts, illegal drug running and warfare for profit. Assassinations. Messing up the world just as bad as Mao's KGB, or the so called "terrorists" who mostly are invented from blowback. The CIA for the most part is involved in illegal scamming, running drugs with the Federal Reserve. You see this as you research.

    It should either be dismantled alltogether, split in two, or put under full oversight. Going by simply their history of drugs alone, there is nothing worthwhile about the CIA whatsoever.
  • 080
    I think that Ron Paul misspoke. He actually meant to say the CIO.
  • hardrain77
    Ron Paul will go down, years from now when we've awakened from the raping of this country, as one of the greatest American constitutional and civil liberties voices ever--if he isn't already.
  • motto
    Pardon me but the drug selling thing isn't an "allegation"

    The CIA basically admitted it in a House investigation.

    It was also thoroughly investigated by a Senate committee led by John Kerry.

    BUT THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING DRUGS TO FUND ILLEGAL WARS FOREVER: Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Central America,

    http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/jphuck/BOOK3Ch5.html

    Read

    http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack.html

    By Robert Parry

    In secret congressional testimony, senior CIA officials admitted that the spy agency turned a blind eye to evidence of cocaine trafficking by U.S.-backed Nicaraguan contra rebels in the 1980s and generally did not treat drug smuggling through Central America as a high priority during the Reagan administration.

    “In the end the objective of unseating the Sandinistas appears to have taken precedence over dealing properly with potentially serious allegations against those with whom the agency was working,” CIA Inspector General Britt Snider said in classified testimony on May 25, 1999. He conceded that the CIA did not treat the drug allegations in “a consistent, reasoned or justifiable manner.”

    Th
  • pammylou
    Yea ! But they had to do it to keep us safe !
  • plunger
    Time to name names, Ron! It's not some amorphous blob called the CIA - there are actual humans with actual names in charge - calling all the shots from on high. David Rockefeller, George HW Bush, and so on. Call them by name! Expose the puppet masters behind the curtain. Explain what the CFR actually is.

    http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Iy5EDLA7NOY...
  • Erik
    The world is not a moral place! No matter how fervent and rightgeous your opinions.
  • pammylou
    That's just _your_opinion.
    There's a good reason that the world is immoral.
    Go find out who Edward L Bernays is.
    Freud's nephew and the first PR man ! He liked the term PR better than propaganda and used everything he learned from Uncle Freud to become the greatest propagandist in History.Brenays is the reason screwball Freud is a household name.Anna Freud's first patients killed themselves from the "treatments".But thanks to Bernays and LIFE magazine psychoanalysis became trendy.Even after the suicides psychoanalysis was still considered real science.Marilyn Monroe was an experiment that failed too.But we still believe the flawed conclusions because of Bernays knowledge,and application of Uncle Freud's work. Freud was a loser who fled (like Jung)Europe because of all the occultism in Europe surrounding the wars there (see Hitler and the Thule societies and Blavatsky's Theosophy's influence on the nazi movement) Bernays was a PR man and made Freuds work accepted after Freud fled Europe penniless.Bernays magnified Freud's flawed work that "There is a policeman in your head and he must be destroyed"
    There is a great video on Bernays on You Tube.It's called "The Century Of The Self"
    it's 4 hours and was produced by the BBC's Adam Curtis and documents Joseph Goebbels
    saying that Bernays books were where he got all the information to get the German people (who were MORE moral than the US is) to dress up in the fancy costumes,and goose step around town!
    Here is Part 1 of The Century Of The Self and I bet you are smart enough to be able to find the other 3 parts if you are so inclined.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8953172...
    You may also look into "The Lucifer Effect"by the man who conducted the Stanford Prison Experiment (which I also highly recommend)
    Dr Zimbardo discovered how uniforms(costumes) and perceived authority can get good people to do evil and immoral things.
    http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/459
    Also for anyone who thinks they can just simplistically blow off (that sounds like a cop response)evil because the world is an immoral place they should also investigate Dr.Stanley Milgram of Yale Universities obedience to authority experiment in 1961
    where Dr.Milgram got decent people to shock (the subjects _thought_they were electric shocking)a man repeatedly with increasing voltage over and over even though the subjects were made to believe the man who was supposed to being shocked had a heart condition.
    It's VERY interesting and discounts your assertions that the world is immoral as an open and shut case.
    All it takes is a convincing (even if they are psychotic)authority figure to assure the subject that "it is necessary"to commit the immoral acts
    Link To Yale's Milgram Experiment.
    http://www.livevideo.com/video/7CB9CBD939C64851...
    The problem is a mental condition called megalomania,and megalomaniacal psychotics are attracted to absolute power and their disease is contagious.Isn't it funny though megalomania is the most dangerous mental illness on earth and the big drug companies aren't looking for a magic pill to cure it?
    I think the first step is giving megalomania an acronym MEGALO (Mentally Exaggerated Grandiose Affective Longterm Obsessive disorder).Then we could start looking for a cure !
    Maybe a little intervention because no matter how much power a megalomaniac accrues,they need more and it only serves to make them sicker and sicker to the point of self destruction.It never makes them happy.And they are as I said contagious when they spread their money around they can buy drugs,sex,and even people with their drug which is power and money that they will do ANYTHING to obtain,that is their drug.
    The result of their illness is that it creates the illusion that the world is an immoral place.
    People are basically good,unless they become intoxicated with the root of all evil,so I have to disagree with your supposition.
    Narcissistic personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    It is also a requirement of DSM-IV that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a .... Narcissistic Personality Inventory · Megalomania · Hubris ... DSM-IV-TR Narcissistic Personality Disorder Diagnostic Criteria ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
  • lol@youlosers
    Not sure who is worse..Paulbots or Obamabots.
  • pammylou
    Hmmph what about the Palin Psyhcos ? Those people are really nuts !
    Her claim to fame was winning the "prettiest' contest ! She could be the pretty president ! That scares me more !
  • lol@youlosers
    Does Ron Paul still run his racist newsletter?
  • pammylou
    Does he still beat his wife ? hahahah
  • martydidier
    Typical CIA Blogger comments!

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL
  • joblo
    you're an idiot. He had nothing to do with that letter. The president of the NAACP even agreed that Ron Paul was not a racist during the campaign. Look it up before responding please.
  • spinnikerca
    I am pretty sure RP meant 'coup' in the sense that an executive office led agency is usurping Congressional powers to declare war -- or REFRAIN from declaring war. I see no authority for missiles to Pakistan, for example.
  • Satan
    I hear It's a great career for a sociopath or a psychopath though, although the pay isn't that good I hear. They advertise for employment on the local Russian AM radio station located in Everett WA. "JOIN THE CIA TODAY!" "DO YOU SPEAK RUSSIAN, CHINESE or FARSI?", which always cracks me up when I think of the crappy reporting done here and elsewhere concerneing Tibet, Iran and Russia.
  • Fuck yeah! Go Vols!
  • Raul
    who do you think is smuggling heroin out of afghanistan?
  • martydidier
    A criminal Element within our Federal Government linked in with the Pentegon and CIA who are assisted with managing it through their CIA Assets. It also involved Colombia and many other countries. I can name names as other have of high officials involved! But there is proof of someone who is a President who actually was actively involved in setting up a huge Drug system along with someone else I personally know. He was paid in an interesting way that many need to learn about.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL
  • pammylou
    The boogie man !
  • Seriously, we should be so lucky. If only it were true that we have the CIA running the show rather than the clowns of the Obama administration, we should have had Afghanistan done by now.
  • pammylou
    LOL ! Obama is the guy the television says is the REAL president. Thats not his real name BTW but it sure sounds cool on TV ! Might I add that the the first company Barry worked for was BIC
    Business International Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    BI has been known to be used as a CIA front company, and was where Barack Obama first worked upon graduating from Columbia University. ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_International_Corporation
    I hope that doesn't make you feel stupid or anything.
  • thx1138a
    The CIA's been running the entire show since 1963, silly rabbit. Remember the Shah? Pure CIA. Same with Saddaam. Same with Asian heroin. Same with crack cocaine. JFK, RFK, MLK. 9/11. You name it, spooks do it. 'Twas the CIA that made all that dough shorting airline stocks on 9/10. Or rather, the intel agency within the intel agency. Kind of like Blackwater, but even more shadowed. The CIA is a front for the real shadow intelligence agencies, just as Congress is the front for the real shadow govt. Think The Bilderberg Group meets Skull and Bones meets Illuminati meets The Carlyle Group meets the NSA meets the Bush Crime Family ... and then multiply that times 1000 and you still won't even be close to the real truth.
  • DIB legacy
    woohoo! We have a winner!!!!!! Congratulations on recognizing that the CIA is constantly being scapegoated... Now we turn our attention to the remaining US Intel agencies... who wants to come out and play with DIB legacy?!?!??!?! i'll be nice, i _promise_!

    OK OK, seriously now... although Intelligence Bureau is (today) charged with domestic intelligence, it also carries counter-intelligence... who knows, maybe i'm just a false glimmer of Agency floating around cyberspace waiting to be contracted. plus, DIB interacts with JIC and a slew of other Intel Heads, so basically, DIB knows * about US Intel, because it has to for domestic security sake...

    For example, don't you think there are "white people" watchlists? I'm _certain_ that there are laundry lists of Caucasian criminals that IB watches incase they hire locals...

    ANYWAY, i'll rant again later.

    PEACE OUT
  • Lee Harvey Marcello
    JFK planned on ousting the CIA, Federal Reserve and cracking down on The Mob.

    And look what happened to him.
  • pammylou
    Yea...but the Secret Squirrels weren't in way over their head as it is now.Criminal organizations are not built with moral people.When the going gets tough rats turn on each other to survive.
    My daddy always said if something is secret then you know it's no good.
    Contrary to popular opinion crime doesn't pay.
    Things have a way of going Fubar when you shed light on cockroaches.
  • thx1138a
    .
    RON PAUL RUNS NAKED AND ARMED THROUGH SHOPPING MALL WITH BULLHORN YELLING TRUTH

    -- Popular Texas Congressional Maverick Publicly Attempts "Suicide By CIA" --

    -- CIA Denies All Knowledge Of Ron Paul's Impending Plane Crash/Heart Attack/Stroke --
    .
  • martydidier
    Sounds like CIA Blogging nonsense to me.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL
  • dddienst
    CIA Project MK-Ultra. Need I say more...

    wikipedia.org /wiki /Project_MKULTRA
  • pammylou
    Heck ! just look at who built the agency.Nazi(Butcher of Leon) Klaus Barbie and Nazi Intel General Gehlen.
    Nuff said right there !
  • dddienst
    CIA project MK-Ultra Need I say more.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA
  • Bruce
    Good for you for speaking the truth Ron Paul. Our boys in Afghanistan are guarding the poppies for the agency and their corrupt leader. Why do you think they call him Poppy?
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