Massachusetts cops can arrest you for making them famous

By Daniel Tencer
Tuesday, January 12th, 2010 -- 3:12 pm
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abcreporterasaeslockerconventiondenverpolicearrest Massachusetts cops can arrest you for making them famousIf you plan to videotape police officers at work in public, just be sure you're not in Massachusetts -- or you might end up in jail.

A report from the New England Center For Investigative Reporting has chronicled a pattern of what civil liberties advocates say is a misuse of police powers: Massachusetts police are using the state's stringent surveillance laws to arrest and charge people who record police activities in public.

It's a situation that is pitting new technologies against police powers. With recording equipment now embedded into cellphones and other common technologies, recording police activities has never been easier, and has resulted in numerous cases of police misconduct being brought to light. And that, rights advocates argue, is precisely what the police are trying to prevent.

In October, 2007, Boston lawyer Simon Glick witnessed what he said was excessive use of police force during the arrest of a juvenile. When he pulled out his cellphone to record the incident, he was arrested and charged with "illegal electronic surveillance."

In December, 2008, Jon Surmacz, a webmaster at Boston University, was attending a party that was broken up by police. Thinking that the police were being unnecessarily rough in the encounter, he pulled out his cellphone and started recording. He, too, was arrested and charged with illegal surveillance.

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In September, 2002, citizen journalist Jeffrey Manzelli was arrested and charged with illegal surveillance after recording police officers cracking down on protesters at an anti-war rally.

Massachusetts is one of 12 US states that require "two-party" consent for surveillance. (The others include California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan and Pennsylvania.) While two-party consent laws were originally designed to stop private detectives and others from invading people's privacy, in Massachusetts the law's application has now broadened to include what civil libertarians say is an attempt by police to stop public oversight of their activities.

“The statute has been misconstrued by Boston police,’’ June Jensen, the lawyer who recently succeeded in having the charges against Glick thrown out, told investigative reporter Daniel Rowinski. “You could go to the Boston Common and snap pictures and record if you want; you can do that.’’

But that's not necessarily how Massachusetts' highest court sees it. As Alexandra Andrews reports at ProPublica, in 2001 the state's Supreme Court upheld a conviction of a man who was arrested in 1998 for recording an encounter with police. "Since then, such arrests have continued to occur," she reports.

Read the complete report from the New England Center for Investigative Reporting here.

TERROR LAWS AND TOURIST PHOTOS

Civil libertarians have been arguing for years that the beefed-up anti-terrorism laws that have come in to force in much of the Western world in recent years also present an opportunity for abuse of police power.

Earlier this year, a new anti-terror statute in Britain -- known as Section 76 -- allowed police to arrest anyone found "eliciting, publishing or communicating information" about soldiers, intelligence agents or police officers that is "likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism."

Since that definition is so broad, it has allowed police to arrest virtually anyone who takes a photograph of a police officer. Since the law was enacted last year, it has been used to delete tourists' photos of London, and to arrest and fine visitors who take pictures of landmarks.

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  • SouthernYankee
    This country is slowly going the way of the facists. What happened to the america I grew up with and loved?
  • guyfreeman
    I've been taking pictures of the police in Springfield, MA for the better part of a year for my website FreemanTimes.com. I only started having trouble with the police when I started taking pictures of the fatter of the cops and posting them. Arguably, the reason I started was simply "because I can". A co-worker warned me that I'd get arrested, but I never thought it was true. I figured the extremists or loonies were making it all up. Well...

    I had a camera broken and all pictures deleted when I took a picture of a cruiser driving down State Street. Why? Apparently I'm the only one who'd ever find it interesting that a police cruiser would have a Harley Davidson License plate as the front plate. The cuffs were put on so tight I had red rings around my wrists for 4 days. I wasn't arrested. I was "detained" for about an hour and a half.

    I didn't do anything wrong. I'm not stalking the police. I'm not trying to identify officer shifts or anything else I've been accused of. I just take pictures of public spaces from public spaces and post them. ...and will continue to do so.
  • I'll film your abuse
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
  • Tazz
    This is insane!!! The police work for us the, tax payers. we should have the right to oversee every thing they do. The public needs to quit thinking these people our "heroes" and start seeing them as their employees. All cops should be monitored at all times while working and all videos, pictures and recordings should be considered public records. anything less makes them a criminal organization.
  • Never mind
    You can thank the worst president in history for all of this Bush is an idiot and will always be known as the dumbest president to ever have served. His fake terrorists plots and the biggest scam of all 9/11 allows our govt to do whatever they want to you.
  • THUMPER
    the police state is now...
  • GUEST
    FUCK THE POLICE. THEY SHOULD BE VIDEO TAPED AT ALL TIMES....THERE ARE POLICE AGENCIES THAT ARE OUTFITTING THEIR OFFICERS WITH WEARABLE HEAD CAMERAS. THE REST OF THEM HAVE SOMETHING THEY COULD LEARN FROM THEM.
  • MKinson
    Although I appreciate the press focusing in on serious issues like this one, what I would like to see for once is a story that doesn't take the minority and post it as the "status quo". If there are a million officers, less than one percent are corrupt, however due to our media's interest to sell a story all we see is that corruption. Where are the stories of the heroic men and women who are deserving of so much more respect than what is given? Stories like this one do nothing but give officers a bad name, causing the public to distrust them when they are the ones holding this country together and protecting YOU from harm to the best of their ability.
  • I would be a cop if it was an honest job.
  • jj
    maggotchusetts maggots running amok again
  • jj
    maggotchussetts maggots are at it again! all the corrupt maggots running amok [as usual] they cant even run their own lives ill be damned if their gonna mine
  • jj
    maggotchussetts is at it again it is a dictatorship all the corrupt maggots running amok!!!!!!
  • lilelm
    YEA!!! PottyMart is doomed!!!
  • lilelm
    YEA!!! PottyMart is doomed!!!
  • The government at all levels deliberately engages in a policy of vague laws and intimidation to make it so expense and stressful and dangerous to confront the government that most people wont even try. They know that even if you "win" you will have spent so much time and money and effort that you will still have lost.
    This way they can continue the pretense that we live in a free country while in fact keeping us in chains.

    Ken
    http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com
  • sdfsd
    If a cop does something wrong, kill them...if you can't get them, get their family. To all the police that think this is just talk, were waiting for you.
  • FlaPatriot
    Dude..that crosses the line. I would hunt you down and kill you myself. YOU are more of a threat to all of us that any cop.
  • See my arrests in MA on camera. They claim they can arrest you, but they are violating federal case law that says Police have no expectation of privacy in public places. I am a member of MA Oathkeepers, born in Concord MA, and am SICK and tired of the Police state here! My next Police stop may be a slow speed OJ style chase all the way to the bridge in my home town. FU Cops!

    http://home.comcast.net/~bill......travel.htm
  • FlaPatriot
    To start, let's pretend we are all reasonable adults and act accordingly. Name calling, broad generalities, and sterotypes are all tools of the undeducated and quickly identify the speaker (poster) as such.

    If said law is being used by LEO to squash dissent with their methods, then the best way to handle this is to continue to record or photograph if full view of the LEO. Take the arrest. Then take the case to court. It would not take many of these prosecutions to go public before the powers that be reverse their decision to implement the law in the first place. The only difference between watching the LEO's actions and recording them is that the recording can not be refuted. Period. This is an obvious twisting of the intent of the original law. The LAW itself is the issue. Keep the argument confined to this one point and virtually all attempts to obfuscate the real issue will be negated.

    I am a gun-toting (Sig P229 in .40 cal) , voting American. I hold a CWP. I am trained to use said weapon. I will use said weapon if my A) Life B)Liberty or C) property becomes endangered. The same holds true for anyone in my protection. I am the first line of defense against criminals. If a LEO arrives in time, he can take over. That is his/her job. I will declare the fact that I am armed and will relenquish said weapon upon request until the LEO is assured that I am not a threat. I will request my weapon be returned at the conclusion of interaction with the LEO.

    Take the pics. Take the heat. Take back your rights via the same mechanisms that the "Man" is using. Whining and moaning will not change a thing.
  • satan
    When the police try that here in Seattle, it always results in an unlawful arrest lawsuit, the last one got around $8,000 I believe.

    I used to take pictures of the police and their bicycles when they would all fester in the coffee shop across the street from my work for far to long. Sometimes I'd take pictures of heroin dealers on one corner and the lazy oinkers on the other. To most of them, it's all about just hanging tough until that magical time of the day when the officers all get to go lather up in the showers together.

    So, just photograph the police, don't be a crybaby, just take their pictures. Their opinion on the matter is shit and you can sue them too, because it's not fucking illegal to take a picture of the police, it's not illegal to look out the window, and when they tell you to leave an area so they can beat someone with nobody looking, you can just stand there and watch.

    If the pigs in your city are really militant about not having their picture taking, simply don't let them catch you doing it, then post them all on the internet and then they can go rub mustaches in the shower.
  • Retired Cop
    I disagree with the enforcement of the MA law concerning the filming of police actions. I would caution, however, that sometimes civil rights groups "set up" confontations, film them, and then edit them to their own ends. So be wary of any edited or altered versions. But in the end, I think that openness and transparency is key to democracy and a free people, so I would say, have at it!
    Some comments below are critical of police in general. That is their right. I know their type; probably their encounters with police have not been stellar. But name-calling and stereotyping accomplish nothing. The world is what it is, and the police are society's last line of defense against anarchy. Any good policeman is not afraid of people watching him or her performing their duties; more often than not such film exonerates them of false accusations after the fact.
  • JakeW83
    Well, then if you are in Massachusetts, you should stop shooting them with you cameras, and just start shooting them.
  • They can tape us and use evidence of surveillance cameras to convict us, but we can't tape them and if we need surveillance video to clear us, they can refuse.
    Naomi Wolf, Gov. Jesse and Alex Jones on Infowars is gonna love this one.
  • KILL-THE-CIVILIZATIONS
    Death of the Western world. It was fun while it lasted.
  • glenn_uk
    It's illegal to take pictures in the UK, as of April last year. The police can arrest you for anything at all, or indeed nothing - not even suspicion - just to get your DNA, then release you with no charge. This police force complements the greatest number of CCTV cameras on earth, all in the world's largest open prison, otherwise known as the UK.
  • howiebledsoe
    What about the TV show COPS?
  • Marxy McLiberalson
    Well, I would suggest that everyone i Massachessetts if you believe in the Cosntitution and America and your Freedom, start video taping and taking photos of cops EVERY CHANCE YOU GET! IF everyday every person these cops run into are just filming and photographing them they cant arrest everyone and it would force the issue to be resolved. But everyone is sheeple and no one will do it." It's not my concern", "they probably deserved it somehow" they still believe the cops are good guys, most of them at least, until its their mostly good kid who does something slightly stupid and suddenly is being tasered or shot by the cops, and then they are shocked that such a thing could happen. at the abuse of power. What ever happened to the cops that raided the Mayor's house and shot his dogs to death because marijuana dealers were shipping the pot by UPS to random peoples homes and picking it up before those people got home???????
  • nick
    We're watching anyway. Things have a way of working themselves out.
  • That's strange. I always though cops believed as long as you are not doing anything wrong, why be concerned about it.
  • guyfreeman
    I've found that it depends on the officer.
  • The solution is better training for police officers and more realistic rules governing the use of force to restrain a suspect, not prohibiting cellphone videos, which is entirely unrealistic because, although the videos will be inadmissible as evidence, they will nonetheless show LEA officers in violation of their own existing rules. The less public esteem officers have, the less cooperation they can expect from members of the public and the higher their suicide rate will climb.
  • Marxy McLiberalson
    The less cops the better
  • turnip
    Suicide is strongly tied to guilt and shame. If they are so guilty, and so shameful, then they can off themselves by the pallet before most would shed a tear. If you don't have the new breed where you are, and you're young enough where you will sooner or later, please wait until you witness what others have experienced for some time now, before further defending what was once an honorable 'job'.
  • bobshin
    Technology to hide cams from view is here. Time to start using it. They can only enforce this if you're caught.
  • turnip
    This is very similar to the other catch-all, 'disorderly conduct', which is a Boston fave. If you come to Boston, please don't film those badged and militant Revenue Collections Agents, you might catch them doing their jobs.
    In case anyone doesn't know, cops are not employed to protect you, make no mistake. They are to enforce the code that facilitates and protects commerce, and to collect those that interrupt it, so that they may be punished (justice). That is all.
  • scytherius
    FUCK the police everywhere. Most are nothing but jack-booted thugs who would be in jail if they weren't cops.
  • turnip
    That's only the 99% that make the 1% look bad ;-)
  • hughsansom
    This calls for a mass action in Massachusetts. Just 20 people rallying with the intent to peacefully exercise their First Amendment rights could be sufficient to put the Massachusetts Gestapo in its place. As things are, this is effectively a law protecting police misconduct.
  • seen2much
    This is what you get for shirking your responsibility. You want to counter this bad law with amendments and more laws.. Do you not see the problem with that? Cops have cover from both judges and prosecutors who are lawyers themselves. Don't you state loving morons know that the second you put a law in that these state goons are looking at how to bend it for their own purposes, mostly how they can torture and kill you and still get a medal?

    Your safety and security is YOUR responsibility! If you outsource it to ANYBODY, whoever you outsource it to will eventually just take you to slaughter like the sheep you are!

    If you don't have the GUTS to wear your gun and handle your own business, then you will be what ALL unarmed people are: A helpless, HOPELESS victim.

    Police as we know them as leeches on taxes didn't come about until 1737 under king george II, grandad of the king we as a nation fought to get away from..

    It all boils down to a monopoly of violence, a monopoly that is impossible (Do you think that criminals care about being allowed or disallowed the use of violence? So why should a criminal cop care about his/her constraints?). When the right to violence is given up by a population, that population has given up ANY right to be secure on ANY level.

    Want to have peace and security? Then make sure you have the right to bring death at but the twitch of a finger. People only behave properly when the consequence of not doing so is swift, potentially fatal, and guaranteed. If you believe otherwise you are the worst kind of fool, and you relinquish your right to cry when your baby gets tased to death, or shot +40 times in their doorway, or forcibly raped by your sacrosanct police...

    Handle your own business, or somebody WILL handle it for you, usually to your demise.


    Baa! BAAA! Little sheeple, have you any meat to pay the wolves?
  • Fake Name
    No, "Retired Cop"(no surprise here) and "texasaggie", you two clowns are the ones who are delusional.

    Your security IS your own damn responsibility. Seen2much couldn't have put it better.

    But hey, Texasaggie, why actually bother to read what anyone says when you can use a blatantly obvious strawman argument because your opponent is telling you the truth you don't want to hear?

    And ooh, someone claiming to be a Retired Cop on the internet, how prestigious. Let's guess how he's gonna respond to an article like this. And hey, accusing Seen2much of being a criminal despite the fact that, assuming your username is accurate, you've spent a lifetime getting PAID to do the exact same things that you beat, kill and arrest people for! Congratulations, you're a hypocrite.
  • Retired Cop
    Fake Name, you certainly assume a lot about thousands and thousands of good cops who DO NOT "beat, kill" people. They do arrest them. I have arrested many. I have also been set up by rights groups who arrange a confrontation, then film and edit to their ends. To no avail. And yes, the name is correct; 27 years. And when you talk of wantonly killing people, whether cops or others, you are dangerous. You are one of the reasons I pinned on the badge to begin with. The police are your last line of defense against those who would harm you and your loved ones. Support them.
  • Tazz
    Well its pretty simple. All cops see all demographs the same. All bikers are the same. all blacks are the same ect. We are only returning the same courtices. I live in Oklahoma,last year we had 3 cops molesting teen age girls on their illigal off duty security jobes and 2 more shot up a strip club because a stripper would'nt go home with them. So what kind of people are they?? They all got one hand one their Glock, and the other on their cocks and not a clue which should go off next!! Their all a bunch of cho-mo punks. I don't need or want your protection. I'll trust my security to my 1911. It won't come back and try tro sleep whith my Ol lady or my daughter
  • Keep Your Oath Cop.
    Your bold assertion that "The COPs" are our last line of defense is a load of bull. Cops show up AFTER things happen - Not DURING. And when they do show up they tend to cause more problems because their first imperative is to assert their authority against everyone. I'm not going to back down when I am morrally in the right so all you goons do is force the issue into violence. That is all you really ever do anymore.

    Good Cops? A good man couldn't stand to be a cop in these times because you cannot simultaneously keep your OATH to the constitution and execute the instructions of your masters.
  • JoJo
    To Retired Cop:

    While I am sure that there are many good police officers, the truth that you wont admit is that for many people cops are not the solution, THEY ARE THE PROBLEM. believe me, cops tried to railroad me because there bouncer buddy beat the hell out of me for no reason. I was savagley beaten, arrested for no reason and had to spend over $1500 to have the case thrown out of court since the charges against me did not fit the facts of the case. THE DA himself refused to persue the charges once it became clear that #1 I had credible witnesses and that #2 I WAS THE VICTIM OF A BRUTAL ATTACK. So NO, the police in this case were not my last line of defense for me and my family. We suffered for their brutality and crimes and would have suffered more had we not fought it and prevailed.
  • Jack
    "The police are your last line of defense against those who would harm you and your loved ones."

    Is that so? Well then, about the most diplomatic conclusion that can be extrapolated from your statement is that when assaults, rapes, murders, etc. occur thousands of times in a given day in policed societies, the police are utterly incompetent thousands of times in a given day. Fuck's sake, two headlines down: 5 shot, 2 killed in a Georgia shooting spree yesterday. Great defense!

    Yeah, cops are our last line of defense against those who would harm us and our loved ones like a BB gun is our last line of defense against a meteor impact, and that's when they're not the ones running around harming us and our loved ones in botched raids and high speed chases that end in deadly collisions because someone had a fucking expired tag.
  • Fake Name
    I really can't tell if maybe someone at Dunkin' Donuts put LSD in your coffee or something, but there is so much wrong in your response that I don't know where to start.

    Whether "some cops are good" is irrelevant. No one gives a fuck about your personality and no one will sympathize with you because as long as you wear that badge and that black suit, you have made a choice to put aside your humanity and subjugate the rest of us. No one's going to care about whether you're a "nice" person or not when you're arresting us, throwing us in cages to be raped, bullied and murdered by other inmates assuming YOUR fat ass doesn't decide to do so, depriving us of our dignities and liberties, forcing us to go through a humiliating process where you psychologically crush us to get us to toe the line, or any of the other shit that YOU GET PAID TO DO.

    You are one of the reasons people like me carry guns. In the real world, our only line of defense against harm is ourselves, and most certainly isn't evil swine like you.

    Don't ask me to sympathize with you, or pity you, or treat you like a human being as long as you choose to do these things or support those who do. Don't.
  • Retired Cop
    I'm not even going to address the b.s. you are spewing. Just move to Mexico if you don't like our system. There you can do as most of the world does; deal with massive corruption and the army. Good luck with your life.
  • Sick of the Bullshit
    See? You are just a bull headed thug. You insist that because we dissent against the police state that we are UnPatriotic. How absurd. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to invade our privacy or assault us just because you don't know what the F is going on in a situation you invade. You claim that if people don't want to get hurt by you that they should lay down and submit when you show up because your authority trumps our inherent rights. It doesn't, If I have done no wrong to my fellow man YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to hurt me or harm me or even speak to me you arrogant tyrant.

    YOU GET THE HELL OUT TRAITOR, my ancestors participated in the founding of this nation and it was founded for Liberty for ALL POSTERITY. and you and your lawyer friends CANNOT make those rights invalid with your ever expanding CODEX of unjust laws. You and your ilk are thugs that prey on the weak and the frightened. You are the monsters that mowed down the Jews in Germany! You are the thugs that depopulated the killing fields in Cambodia. It is your sort, High on your authority, that justifies the captivity of Human beings because they don't obey you. ENJOY HELL TYRANT.
  • Retired Cop
    Hmm. I don't remember saying ANY of that. Let's see, now, according to you I am:

    A bull headed thug,
    an arrogant tyrant,
    a traitor,
    a monster like the nazis and pol pot.

    There is a large number of people who actually know me, and would take issue with your rant. You see, that's the problem, in my view. You don't know me. I don't know you. I am not calling you names or condemning you in any way. Although I'm retired, I'll always care. You have your own life. I hope it gets better.
  • Jack
    What else does anyone need to know about you in the context of this situation? You're just another flag waving fucktard with delusions of grandeur (You were the last line of defense against people who want to harm the common folk and their loved ones? Who the fuck do you think you're kidding? :chortle) who wore a shiny piece of metal on your chest for most of your useless life, and no amount of people who know you will ever change that fact.

    But hey, whatever gets you through the night, Cappin.
  • nojackbootpigs
    You move swine. Move before the jack boots are rounded up, given trials for human rights violations and given generous prison sentences, or my preference, a short drop and a quick stop. You are protecting no one but corrupt gov't scum and banksters. As long as there are 90 IQ tards like you imposing tyranny, I'll be here waiting for the day when the tables turn, and it doesn't lok like you're making too many friends. "I was just following orders" will not be an excuse just as it wasn't in Nuremburg. I didn't ask you to be a jack boot thug, I don't want you, and its you who will be leaving, caged, or dead because of the side you have chosen, and that side is tyranny. It has never prevailed, it will never prevail. So savor your boots, badge, and the beatings, electrocution, and violence you goons have used against unarmed citizens. I want you to think about it all through your trial and sentence.
  • david welch
    mexico,,,,,, thats the problem,,,,,, the usa is becoming more like mexico, with the passage of the patriot act the cops can do anything they want.... this is mexico friend, wake up
  • Retired Cop
    You are delusional. Unfortunately, crazy people typically think everyone else is crazy, not them. I would also hazard to guess that you have one or more felonies under your belt. Society needs protection from you, not the other way around. Get help.
  • texasaggie
    To summarize, what seen2much is advocating is that we should shoot police on sight. There is at least one judge who would allow you to claim a manslaughter defense because you thought you were protecting someone's life (see the story on the murderer of the doctor in Kansas.)

    The main reason to carry weapons is to protect yourself from flaming idiots like seen2much.
  • donofcali
    The pigs are allowed to commit crimes and arrest you if you film them doing it. Notice that the fascist police state is being pressed on us not just in Mass., but in every state.

    The Plutocracy wants us to fear the police. They want a society where private corporations, not the public police force are the ones we are to call when we need help against criminals. They want a society where the police are their jackbooted, all-dressed-in-black SS that they use to keep the citizens under control as they continue to push down the quality of our lives in every respect.
  • Simon
    I don't know if the moderator will allow this post, but I follow these types of stories & have a little website that archives the regular criminal & abusive action of our police forces:

    Police Update
    http://warupdates.weebly.com/police-update.html

    Its only about the last two years of news, but its shockingly big, & that's just what we know about!

    I've known officers personally & have also witnessed many crimes by officers, they get away with it 99.9% of the time & don't give a second thought to themselves breaking the laws that they've sworn to uphold.
  • scytherius
    Awesome. Thanks!!
  • H.P.Loathecraft
    This great. Thanks
  • starvapor
    Does anyone know if this brain-dead law applies to the press filming a police action in public?
  • Simon
    Actually you'll find the police are notoriously right wing all over the country, as well as judges & prosecutors too.

    Clearly this is a law that needs amending because of the misuse by our right leaning police force. Its a law that was intended for something different & the police saw a loophole so that they could get away with breaking the law themselves.

    And it will be the "liberals" that will correct their gross un-Constitutional misconduct.
  • starvapor
    This law needs to be kicked up to the U.S. Supreme Court for a test.
  • driver1076
    Well then does that mean We can arrest every cop who has a dashboard camera on the same charge.Seems only fair to Me.
  • starvapor
    Don't hold your breath hoping for a yes answer to that one.
  • Democratic_Socialist
    Sorry, My Friend. There is THEM and then there is.............us.
  • OldAtlantic
    Notice its the big lib state doing this. That's why Leftism is totalitarianism.
  • Massachusetts is a one party state and that can bring problems but it is also as far from totalitarianism as any state can get. Most towns in Mass. decide issues and budget at Town Meeting where all the citizens gather once a year to vote on every item.
  • H.P.Loathecraft
    "Notice its the big lib state doing this. That's why Leftism is totalitarianism."

    Thanks for pointing that. I always suspected cops were secretly dirty fucking hippies who voted Democrat. Anything else to contribute to the discussion, moron?
  • blinky2
    Police everywhere have one of the most mind bendingly difficult jobs around... However, "notice" how stupid you are...Boston police are as right wing as they come...All police departments are fairly fascistic by nature, which is why we have a Constitution to protect us from police abuse.
  • Kung Fu Master
    I quote - "Police everywhere have one of the most mind bendingly difficult jobs around"
    I don't disagree with that statement. Cops do have a tough job and there are good cops and bad cops. But one thing all those cops need to remember is when they pull out the 'tough job' line on people, is that no one asked them to be a cop. They chose the job knowing full well the dangers and bullshit involved in it. If they don't like all of that, they can quit and find another job. And the police don't serve and protect anymore. They react and attack
  • yaright
    well it's doing a dandy job now isnt it?
  • MuddyAtlantic
    Yup, and that's why butter is yellow, too.
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