Tough NY House race may be decided by undecideds

By Ron Brynaert
Monday, November 2nd, 2009 -- 2:38 pm
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A bruising House race in upstate New York which took a strange turn over the weekend after the official Republican nominee dropped out and endorsed her Democratic opponent over a conservative rival may ultimately be decided by the "undecideds."

The New York congressional battle has revealed much about Republican attempts to redefine their party ahead of those crucial elections.

The official Republican candidate, Dede Scozzafava, withdrew over the weekend after being overwhelmed by the rival Conservative candidate, Doug Hoffman.

Hoffman ran to the right of the moderate Scozzafava, winning crucial if controversial backing from senior Republicans such as former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

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After withdrawing, Scozzafava called on her supporters to switch allegiance not to Hoffman, but the Democrat Bill Owens.

The internal Republican feud laid bare a debate over whether to move the party to the right, with Palin a potential presidential candidate in 2012, or to the center represented by Scozzafava.

The latest Siena poll showed Hoffman taking a lead of 41-36 against Owens after Scozzafava's departure, but with 18 percent still undecided.

Naftali Bendavid reports for the Wall Street Journal's Washington Wire that "the race remains fluid."

Since Republican Dede Scozzafava withdrew on Saturday, she still retains the support of 6% of the voters, while the number of undecided voters doubled from 9% to 18%, according to the poll released this morning by the Siena Research Institute. The poll has a four percentage point margin of error.

“Hoffman continues to demonstrate momentum, picking up six points since Scozzafava pulled out,” Siena pollster Steven Greenberg said in a statement. “It appears, however, that the majority of Scozzafava’s supporters have gone to neither Hoffman nor Owens, but rather into the undecided column.”

Greenberg added, "With nearly one in five voters undecided the day before Election Day and voters still trying to comprehend the dramatic withdrawal of Scozzafava and her subsequent endorsement of Owens, this is still a wide open race."

Meanwhile, Think Progress notes that Hoffman told controversial Fox host Glenn Beck that he considered him a mentor during a Monday morning radio interview.

After being prodded by Beck to say climate change is not caused by human activity, Hoffman announced, “Well, I think there’s a lot of debate on there. I don’t believe that it’s totally manmade.” Beck cohost Pat Gray praised Hoffman’s lurch to the right, noting “he’s getting stronger every second.” Beck chimed in, agreeing, “He’s getting stronger, there it is, every second.” Hoffman then groveled:

GRAY: Every second. What about

HOFFMAN: I have good mentors here.

BECK: Wait, wait. Wait, wait. Are they mentors that will show –

HOFFMAN: I’m talking about you, Glenn.

BECK: Oh, okay. I was going to say all right, as long as they are standing out from the shadows. [...]

HOFFMAN: No. Yeah, well, I’m going to keep in touch with people like you so I don’t get infected with that disease.

The interview today was not the first time Hoffman has pleaded to Beck for his support. On the October 21 edition of his radio program, Beck quizzed Hoffman on his conservative credentials and even offered his own “cocktail” of immigration policy solutions, which Hoffman quickly accepted. During the program, Hoffman serenaded Beck with adoring rhetoric, telling him once that the founding fathers envisioned “people like you and me to stand up” and take control of government. He also told Beck that he is a member of his local 9/12 organization.

Think Progress has audio of the Beck, Hoffman exchange at this link.

(with AFP report)

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Story comments are below...

  • Satan
    Don't you think it's kind of obvious when Raw allows comments only on crap non-news stories about tards like Beck and Rush but would never alllow comment on a story abour Obama and his perpetuation of endless war?

    You should probably hire a software tester too, this pages changes like every day and it's always fucked up. For instance, the text 'community page' and 'blog comments powered by Disqus' obscure the post comment button. Very crappy. You have to press the button on just the right pixels or you'll be taken to the Disqus homepage, which might happen anyway considering how often comment posting fails with this new failure of a blog comment posting system.
  • lorn
    Yeah Satan, hell yeah!!!

    As I read through the 'Ship made of 911 steel sails into New York' story up now I was thinking of a few choice words for all concerned. But of course such a touchy subject is closed to comments. Can't have the truth offend the kool aid drinkers and pretend progressives can we raw?

    Too bad I just can't get worked up about the fake wrestling style bun fights between Olberman and O'Reilly or Palin and Pelosi.
    In reality this is the only stuff our fascist media want people watching and caring about. Obsessive compulsive non stop reporting in such fluff is one sure sign of a fake progressive news source.

    rawstory, becoming more like huffpo with each passing day. How sad!
  • rawstorysuspect
    oh do you mean something like "the government took away all that steel before anyone could discover the cause of failure? and that the point of all this was to DESTROY EVIDENCE???"

    yep, thought so...
    latah
  • lorn
    Yeah, something like that suspect. Sadly the fraidy cats who believe and amplify the George W Bush version of 911 are still winning the battle of lies over truth. Your service to the wrong side is duly noted, your mother must be so proud......unless she is awake in which case she would be heartbroken.
  • texasaggie
    This is "crap non-news???" What would you consider to be important?

    And as far as any problem with the comment section, the problem is with yourself, not the page.
  • jelly450
    SHUT your hole. You miserable troll.

    Satan.......what a dick name
  • Chip
    Who the Hell calls themselves Satan? Perhaps he's the more likable, misunderstood , sensitive Satan like on South Park. Nah, he's probably a douche.
  • dennycrane
    Since you are from "hell" and using windoze,I guess you encounter these problems. Usually, we get to comment on RawStory's own accounts, not stories "linked".
  • terrymo1
    If you learn to use your puter,you will learn that all you have to do is hit your tab key and all that crap gets out of the way as you click it.real simple.I use it all the time when filling in forms.Just trying to help.
  • damixaustex
    "For instance, the text 'community page' and 'blog comments powered by Disqus' obscure the post comment button."
    It's a page formatting issue with firefox, safari but not with internet explorer.
    Consider it a mac vs windows discussion.
  • georgehilborn
    Beck was a big flop at CNN so he went to Fraud News. The guy is a big pussy and he probably got his ass kicked on a regular basis in grammer school. Don't count on upstate New York to do the right thing. The soggy teabaggers are made up of losers and they will implode if we don't pay attention to them. Sarah Palin is living on borrowed time along with her dysfunctional family. Two years from now she won't be a pimple on an elephant's ass and she will have spent all her ill-be- gotten speaking fees.The "we hate the nigger"crowd is so desperate that they will shell out all the money in their Mason jars. to hear the phoney "we hate the nigger"theme over and over again.As that dopey sage (GWB)said recently "fame is fleeting"
  • malikk
    hi
  • dennycrane
    Maybe beck can let the creep wear his "magical underwear" to bring him good luck.
  • Chip
    Yes, and then they can become their own gods with their own planets and harems.
  • dennycrane
    Mars is reserved for bush.
  • slopnbop
    You know, I'm not sure this matters or anything but your story features a photo of the DEMOCRATIC candidate yet he's hardly mentioned. The casual reader will instantly assume this guy is Hoffman when he's not. Actually he's much better looking than the beady-eyed knuckle dragger he's running against. WAY better looking.
  • Chip
    What a douche, his mentor is a morning zoo radio alumnus? No wonder the country is going to hell.
  • damixaustex
    "...with Palin a potential presidential candidate in 2012..."

    I just spit warm milk through my nose. Thanks for the laugh.

    See Sarah speak.
    Speak, Sarah, speak!
    See Sarah run.
    Run, Sarah, run!

    Palin v Obama '12!
  • airjackie
    Anyone who is mentored by a mentally ill drug/alcoholic like Glenn Beck really needs help themselves. Hoffman doesn't live in the area he was to represent and he has two wacko drug addicts supporting him, Rush and Glenn.
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