Thompson: Afghanistan war ‘already lost’

By Daniel Tencer
Thursday, November 19th, 2009 -- 5:38 pm
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thompson mrclean Thompson: Afghanistan war already lostFred Thompson, the actor and former Republican Senator, told listeners of his radio show Thursday that the war in Afghanistan is "already lost," and put the blame on President Barack Obama's delays in making a decision on a troop surge for the war effort.

Thompson's salvo "seem[s] to lay the groundwork for Republican opposition to further American engagement in Afghanistan," suggests Ben Smith at Politico, but the former presidential candidate's words have roiled some critics, who note that, during the Bush administration, Thompson was a fierce opponent of those who painted the war effort negatively.

"It's becoming increasingly apparent with every passing day that it really doesn't matter how President Obama divides the Afghan baby, how he splits the difference between [Gen. Stanley] McChrystal and [Vice President Joe] Biden, because the war in Afghanistan has been lost," Thompson said on his radio show, The Fred Thompson Show. "It didn't have to be that way, it doesn't have to be that way, but that's the way it is."

Thompson took up a now-familiar theme among critics of the Obama administration's foreign policy, attacking the White House for taking its time with a decision on a troop increase for the war effort.

"This delay will not in and of itself do irreparable harm to the war effort -- it's much worse than that," Thompson said. "This delay is evidence that the war is already lost. So take your time on the new troop numbers, Mister President. Unless you have total change of heart and mind on this, it really doesn't make any difference."

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But one of Thompson's points in his polemic -- that "our enemies are emboldened" and "our friends are discouraged" because of Obama's delay -- has critics accusing the former Republican presidential contender of hypocrisy.

Thompson until recently considered criticism of the war effort to be detrimental because it emboldens the US's enemies. As Matt Corley pointed out at ThinkProgress, Thompson fiercely criticized Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in 2007 when Reid declared outgoing Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Peter Pace to be "incompetent."

"The problem is that every one of Reid’s comments I’ve noted here has also been reported gleefully by Al Jazeera and other anti-American media," Thompson said at the time. "Whether he means to or not, he’s encouraging our enemies to believe that they are winning the critical war of will."

"According to Thompson’s own logic, his declaration of defeat today — “whether he means to or not” — is “encouraging our enemies to believe that they are winning the critical war of will,” Corley writes.

The following audio was broadcast on The Fred Thompson Show, Thursday November 19, 2009, and uploaded to the Web by Politico.com.

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  • billmacbean
    Thompson is a bubbleheaded jerk.
    Anyone care to refute that?
  • texasaggie
    Actually the statement that the war is already lost is true. But it has nothing to do with Obama. It was lost the day that Cheney/Bush decided to forget about Afghanistan and concentrate on attacking Iraq. They could have finished the job in Afghanistan, but they really weren't too interested. After all, what is a pipeline from the Caspian compared to whole oil fields under Iraqi sand accessible by ocean tankers?
  • tacticalgrace
    Fred Thompson lost and the military industrial complex is alive and well and now living in Afghanistan. Coffee Fred?
  • Hidden among the militias of Afghanistan there are over a million silent dissidents. They wear the traditional turbans and appear to be loyal to the Taliban or the Karzai government, but their true loyalty is to the highest bidder. They can be reached by the US military and turned into a powerful political and fighting force. They can be named The Golden Coins. Kabul and the Taliban will be forced to listen when they speak.
  • jeffersonperrin
    The halfass conduct of the Bush cabal as regards Afghanistan, could not be called 'conducting a war' under any circumstances. What those criminals did was send our troop off to fight 'at' an unseen enemy without the proper numbers of soldiers, without the proper equipment and without the proper focus needed to 'win' anything. And they even only bothered themselves with the 'Afghanistan distraction' to pacify americans and keep them at bay so they could overthrow a soverign nation to gain control of its natural resources and earn their buddies war profits. A plan, by the way that was in the works even before Bush began his run for the whitehouse.
    We are only 'losing' because of the fools that took their eyes off the ball they never wanted to put into play in the first place.
  • joedee1960
    This is not the only war we lost. Read this link:

    http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/11/democracy-v...
  • rs3678
    That's right, the republicans lost it in 7 years and is time we get out off that place.
  • jdouglas
    As a heroin addict I disagree with Fred Thompson. My stuff has never been cheaper, and it's pure as all hell.
  • Don't kid yourselves. This war was lost in July 2001 when the White House threatened Mullah Omar's govermnent to "accept their carpet of gold or receive a carpet of bombs", which led the pre-emptive strike on 9/11/01.

    According to the Washington Post people from the US State Department told both India and Pakistan that they'd be in Afghanistan "before the snow falls" some time between July and the end of August 2001. And we all know what happened after that.

    Thing is, by Bush's own doctrine of pre-emption, after Mullah Omar was threatened by the Bush administration, the attack on 9/11/01 became a legitimate pre-emptive strike.

    Funny how that works, huh?

    Peace
  • dennycrane
    The war was lost as soon as bushit left afghanistan to go to Iraq and refused to blow up the poppy fields. "Freddie-the-Fuck"- Thompson was a loser as soon as he supported the "turn" to go to iraq. It boils down to the fact that the "black guy" can not do any thing right in "whitey"-town-usa. He's another one on those "Baghdad Bobs" that show up as polyps on the "medias" intestines that eventually comes out their pie hole.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    WHY IS THOMPSON SIDING WITH THE TERR'ISTS?! WHY DOES HE HATE AMERIKA?
  • edwards_com
    Because he is a Projecting Conservative.
  • Chris
    Afghanistan = Caspian Sea oil and natural gas reserves. It is also a stepping-stone to Eurasia’s vast mineral deposits. Read “The Grand Chessboard” by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Now who better to get all of this than us? Or would you rather have the Russians and/or Chinese have it? This is geopolitics, something that has been going on since Alexander the Great, and not likely to end anytime soon. Political Correctness is simply a flash in the pan, although a wonderful emasculator if you go for that sort of thing in a real and vicious world.
  • edwards_com
    Then you get over there & fight your fight instead of living on life's on life's terms. Our last attempt left over a million murdered Iraqis, bankrupted this nation, started a DEPRESSION on 9.15.08,
  • scytherius
    Who cares what this dumb-ass redneck says? he knows absolutely SHIT about this issue. Go eat some green beans ya dumb ass.
  • Fred,
    There is no support for your allegations. This war was lost before it began. The reason being that the problems in Afghanistan have no military solution.
    The only reason to make irresponsible commments like this is that you are pimping for war profiteers and big oil or your politics are as dirty as the rest of the GOP.
    Holding back on killing more innocent people most sensible thing that Obama has done. If you care about you country and young men and women who pledge their lives to defend it, then you'll stop making irresponsible comments like this.
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