Sen. Levin: ‘Significant evidence’ Ft. Hood shooting was ‘terrorism’

By Agence France-Presse
Saturday, November 21st, 2009 -- 2:41 pm
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carllevin Sen. Levin: Significant evidence Ft. Hood shooting was terrorismUS Army Major Nidal Hasan, accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, intensified contacts with a radical Yemeni American cleric just months before the shootings and began discussing surreptitious financial transfers, The Washington Post reported Saturday.

Citing two unnamed sources briefed on a collection of secret e-mails between the two, the newspaper said the e-mails were obtained by an FBI-led task force in San Diego between late last year and June but were not forwarded to the military.

Some were sent to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Washington field office, triggering an assessment into whether they raised national security concerns, but those intercepted later were not, the report said.

Hasan's contacts with extremist imam Anwar al-Aulaqi began as religious queries but took on a more specific and concrete tone before he moved to Texas, the paper noted.

One source said the two discussed in "cryptic and coded exchanges" the transfer of money overseas in ways that would not attract law enforcement attention, according to The Post.

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"He (Hasan) clearly became more radicalized toward the end, and was having discussions related to the transfer of money and finances," the paper quotes on of the sources as saying. "It became very clear toward the end of those e-mails he was interested in taking action."

Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin said Friday that he would investigate the handling of the e-mails and why military officials were not aware of them before the deadly attack.

According to The Post, Levin told reporters after a briefing from Pentagon staff members that "there are some who are reluctant to call it terrorism, but there is significant evidence that it is."

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  • johnO
    My question is where did the other two shooters go? Many news orgs mentioned them early on. Now all mention is scrubbed from archives. They were in custody. Now they never existed

    Anyone ever hear any interviews with people who witnessed this? This false flag patsy gets off 100 rounds in the midst of the worlds best trained killers? Really? Kills 13? Wounds 30 some odd, all by himself? Next you'll want me to believe a dialysis patient in an Afghan cave stood down NORAD and put nano-thermite in the WTC.
  • drewpruett
    There were two people detained. They were questioned, and it was realized that they were not involved. The worry over two or more shooters was caused by the fact that there were two areas in which people were injured, the soldier readiness center, where th shooter was, and an auditorium several hundred feet away that was densely populated due to a reception of some kind. Some people at the reception were injured by stray fire, and it was investigated.

    (according to the local news in Killeen, as well as the briefing given by the CO for the post)
  • Ez4moi
    I recently read that Bill Clinton's Administration disarmed the military in 1983. They may not carry their own hand guns on the base. I'd be interested to see more specific information on this. Therefore, if one has two semi automatic weapons and is firing down upon unarmed "killers", it is very reasonable to get off 100 rounds while killing and wounding unarmed people.
  • koyaanisqatsi
    Reagan was president in 1983
  • Ez4moi
    Thanks. I was just quoting from something read a little while back and got the daate wrong. I'm going to look into it some more. You know. This is very early on and the gravity of all this is such that nothing is going to be left uncovered.
  • allenallen
    See! That's how evil Clinton was... he went back in a "time machine" just to cause the Ft. Hood tragedy!

    Ask your self this... [fill in blank] ???

    Ever wonder why [fill in blank] ????

    Really? Does [fill in blank] sound reasonable to you?

    I'm just asking...
  • johnbyrnes
    LEARN HOW TO PREVENT FUTURE NIDAL HASANS

    The dilemma caused by the shooting at Fort Hood by Major Hasan exemplifies how each of our programs have failed us. When supervisors, counselors and task forces members rely on subjective references of culture and mental illness, observers miss the signs specific to aggression referenced in post analysis. When observers focus specifically on aggressive behavior, the objective and culturally neutral signs of “aggression” standout, providing the opportunity to prevent these violent encounters.

    Major Hasan was under surveillance by two Terrorist Task Forces, one with Department of Defense oversight and the other with FBI oversight. So why wasn’t he stopped?

    The use of subjective/qualitative indicators, prone to stereotype individuals by culture or religion; versus quantitative indicators and the use of mental health references know to mislead and misconstrue, fails us repeatedly in our attempts to prevent acts of violence. Only when we use the specificity of “aggression” and its objective, culturally neutral indicators can we get-out-in-front of these acts of aggression and prevent them. Why are current systems uses on campus failing us?

    The answer is quite simple – The military does not have an objective and culturally neutral system that collects information and evaluates it to determine the degree (or level) of aggression an individual is displaying, nor has it people who have a clear responsibility to observe and report this information. Learn more about the problem and the solution by reading our Blog: http://Blog.AggressionManagement.com
  • texasaggie
    I suspect, but am not sure, that part of the reason that this guy was kept on is that the suicide problem and the PTSD problem are getting worse and they need all the psychiatrists they can get their hands on. The record suicides for this year have put a lot of media attention on the Army, which means that they have to at least appear to be doing something, so they have to give the benefit of the doubt to anyone who might be part of the solution.
  • Ez4moi
    Well, isn't this fun! The variety of comments are all over the place. Was this a conspiracy for who knows what purpose or a lone nut job who snapped? I guess one is just supposed to take their pick. Then, the suggestion to get Fox News, Glenn Beck, and other right wing swine who are the real terrorists is priceless.

    Senator Levin is merely being practical. The main stream media are trying to protect Obama in suggesting any reason other than Muslim jihad. This is to keep his record of no terrorism happening on his watch clean. But Levin sees the political danger. If people do not see it clearly now, he knows all the evidence is going to fit that of our enemy as it emerges in the fullness of time. For this reason he is smart to get out in front of this now. My opinion is that the American people do not trust Democrats to protect them. Therefore, he wants to prevent a renewal of this belief. For if the Democrats cannot even identify the enemy, how can they possibly keep us safe?
  • Well, an interesting point, is that Hasan joined, trained, and advanced to his position while Bush was president. How come no one's mentioning this? His emails were probably intercepted during the Bush administration (not sure about that).

    And you say, the Democrats can't keep us safe. 9/11 happened under Bush/Cheney, and so did the anthrax terrorism, and other terrorism. And terrorism worldwide spiked enormously under Bush/Cheney.

    And you say the mainstream media is protecting Obama? What a joke! What MSM are you looking at? The MSM that shows the teabaggers' every move and not the anti-war protests or any other kind of protests besides the teabaggers, who are an extreme minority? The MSM that totally ignored a recent pro-gay protest that was the exact same size as the 9/12 teabagger protest? THAT MSM??? The MSM that said Islamic terrorists did the anthrax, and then it was found out an American working for the government did it, and they didn't revisit why they said beyond a doubt that Islamic terrorists did the anthrax mailings? The same MSM that didn't revisit why an American put "DEATH TO ISRAEL" on the anthrax letters? Or why he mailed them only to Democrats? The MSM that shows anti-health care shills from corporations? The MSM that shows Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney all the time? And Newt Gingrich? The MSM that 24x7 showed Rev. Wright during the election, and then Bill Ayers? And ignored Palin's Dominion video with Pastor Muthee the witchdoctor? The one that ignored McCain leaving his disabled wife for a beer heiress? The MSM that paraded birthers all over 24x7? The MSM that paraded "Joe the NOT Plumber" all over?

    THAT MSM???
  • m
    'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'
  • jake
    Maybe he wanted to transfer money overseas because he was thinking of deserting?
  • How did one guy fire off 100 rounds in a military base? Why did ALL the military interviewed first say they thought it was a drill? Why would they think there's drills with people walking around shooting at them? What kind of drills do they have there? Every single one interviewed said they thought it was a "drill". Why did they say that? Why did all the first reports say there were multiple shooters, then those stories went away. Who were those other shooters? The ones that were detained? Why were they detained? Did Hasan himself think it was a drill and he had blanks? If there's drills like that, there's guys with blanks doing it, right? What's Levin's evidence that it's terrorism, and Hasan wasn't just some nut who cracked up?
  • texasaggie
    Actually there is some question of how this guy managed to fire off all those shots without having to stop to reload. The most probable source of the extra bullets were people shooting at him. The early reports of other shooters have been discredited and the woman who supposedly took him out was also discredited. Another police type took him out according to the more recent reports.
  • Ez4moi
    It was reported he had two 9mm semiautomatic hand guns. Depending on the model, each could have had perahps 16 rounds. I'd imagine he fired one gun until it was empty. He was probably not reloading the ammo clips. He just pushed a button and the empty clip fell to the floor. Then, he would only have to push another loaded clip into the gun. It takes a few very short seconds to do this. Don't forget these hand guns shoot as rapidly as one can pull the trigger.
  • dankyogurt
    Not only where were the other two shooters, but apparently this guy was a regular at the local stripclub, does not really fit the devout religious terrorist the media is so desperately trying to portray. This dude is white and he is just another mass murderer, but muslim american, they'll find a way to make this into terrorism.
  • yoshimum
    He is not white, Hasan is brown of Palestinian heritage, his parents emigrated to the US from the West Bank.
  • Satan
    How much money are we talking about here, enough to buy some deadly weapons system, enough to buy a shitty house or enough to by a crappy used car? They must be leaving it out because it's an embarassingly low amount or they're in the process of rigging the evidence to support their endless war.

    Charles Whitman killed more than this guy and he shot at civilians, how was he not a terrorist? He was a psycho nutjob. A rogue soldier attacking soldiers is terrorism yet on that same day when NATO target 9 civilians in a wheat field and murdered including the three children that were with them, that was what, exactly?

    Charles Levin can go assfuck himself, I'm sure he'll find plenty willing to do so in the U.S. Army.
  • rawstoryfaggot
    Whatever, Heebenstein.
  • Get the real terrorists, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and the rest of these right-wing swine.
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