We’re running out of gold: miners

By Agence France-Presse
Wednesday, November 25th, 2009 -- 11:04 am
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GoldBars3 Were running out of gold: minersMONTREAL — Gold production will continue to fall, despite a brief boost in 2009 and soaring prices, as deposits are exhausted and new discoveries remain elusive, say miners.

In terms of production, "2009 is the outlier as far as the trend," Omar Jabara, spokesman for US-based Newmont Mining, the second-largest gold producer in the world, told AFP.

Overall, "it's a fact that gold production from mines has been in decline since 2001 and has gone roughly from 85 million ounces to about 75 million ounces a year," said Vincent Borg, spokesman for number one producer Barrick Gold.

"It sort of goes down about one million ounces every year and our forecast is that it will continue to decline despite the higher price" for gold nowadays, he said.

Almost everywhere, mineral deposits are being exhausted and new deposits are not being found fast enough to replace them, these experts explain.

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South Africa, which was once at the vanguard of world production, saw a 9.3-percent drop in production year-over-year in the second quarter, according to its Chamber of Mines.

Globally, "it's just that the assets are not there anymore," Tonya Todd, a spokeswoman for Goldcorp, Canada's second biggest gold mining firm.

"Just because gold reached a new high today doesn't mean we can send a message to our 26 mines saying produce as much gold as you can today because they are already," said Borg.

"It's not like a water tap you can turn on and it comes right away."

Barrick and Newmont expect nevertheless to continue increasing production next year by seven percent and five to 10 percent, respectively. But long-term, it's downhill.

Omar Jabara explained that it takes from seven to 10 years to start production of a mine after finding an economically viable gold deposit.

And "no significant new discoveries have been found in recent years, despite the higher gold prices and despite higher exploration budgets," said Borg.

What is already happening and is likely to continue is that the grade or quality of deposits industry-wide will be "on average lower than deposits discovered in the past," opined Jabara.

The global gold mine production is forecast to rise by 3.7 percent in 2009 to about 2,500 tonnes, but will satisfy only two-thirds of demand, which soared this year amid the global financial crisis to 3,800 tonnes, according to the World Gold Council.

Historically, gold recycling or the sale of central bank stockpiles made up for supply shortages.

But during the latest financial crisis, banks have been buying up gold in large quantities to protect monetary reserves against weakness in the US dollar.

Since the start of November, for example, India's central bank has scooped up 200 tonnes of gold from the International Monetary Fund, at market value for about 6.7 billion dollars.

Amid uncertainty in the stock market, small investors and hedge funds are also coveting gold, driving up demand for the precious metal.

With mine production sloping downwards, an increasing supply of gold must come from existing supplies -- such as coins, bullion or jewelry -- but it will be very limited.

"All the gold ever produced through history amounts to about 165,000 tonnes, which would barely fill two Olympic-size swimming pools," said Jabara.

Gold prices soared to a record above 1,180 dollars in London on Wednesday hitting 1,180.20 dollars an ounce in trading on the London Bullion Market, after striking a series of historic peaks in recent days and weeks.

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  • rebeltoady
    They wouldn't be trying to drive up the price of gold even further to maximize their profits and investment dollars would they? Why no, who would do something like that.
  • joblo
    exactly what I was thinking, word of mouth does alot for a market, true or not. gold is at a record 1,180 today. I wonder too if its to cover the dollar's devaluation
  • kucinich2012
    joblo (and others), you will DEFINITELY find this link interesting:

    http://www.rense.com/general78/control.htm
  • malikk
    the bankster have been got short selling gold on london in nymex exchanges now there claim there dont have enough gold bullshit. the chinese caught them selling gold that there didnt have called naked short selling meaning the bankster did nt have shit not even one bar of gold the chinese no this so they started asking for physical delivery of the gold now they crying that there dont have enough gold.

    rob kirby
    already reported on irregular physical gold settlements which occurred in London, England back in the first week of October, 2009. Specifically, these settlements involved the intermediation of at least one Central Bank [The Bank of England] to resolve allocated settlements on behalf of J.P. Morgan and Deutsche Bank – who DID NOT have the gold bullion that they had sold short and were contracted to deliver. At the same time I reported on two other unusual occurrences:



    1] - irregularities in the publication of the gold ETF - GLD’s bar list from Sept. 25 – Oct.14 where the length of the bar list went from 1,381 pages to under 200 pages and then back up to 800 or so pages.



    2] - reports of 400 oz. “good delivery” bricks of gold found gutted and filled with tungsten within the confines of LBMA approved vaults in Hong Kong.
  • tacticalgrace
    Oil, water, gold, forests. Thank goodness we have enough coal left to finish the job of destroying our planet.
  • MarxMarvelous
    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14996.html

    These revelations should provide a “new filter” through which Rothschild exiting the gold market back in 2004 begins to make a little more sense:

    “LONDON, April 14, 2004 (Reuters) - NM Rothschild & Sons Ltd., the London-based unit of investment bank Rothschild [ROT.UL], will withdraw from trading commodities, including gold, in London as it reviews its operations, it said on Wednesday.”

    Interestingly, GATA’s Bill Murphy speculated about this back in 2004;

    “Why is Rothschild leaving the gold business at this time my colleagues and I conjectured today? Just a guess on my part, but suspect:”

    *SOMETHING IS AMISS. THEY KNOW A BIG GOLD SCANDAL IS COMING AND THEY WANT NO PART OF IT. …”

    “ROTHSCHILD WANTS OUT BEFORE THE PROVERBIAL "S" HITS THE FAN.” BILL MURPHY, LEMETROPOLE, 4-18-2004

    Coincidentally [or perhaps, not?], GLD Began Trading 11/12/2004

    In light of what has occurred – regarding the Gold ETF, GLD – after reviewing their prospectus yet again, it becomes pretty clear that GLD was established to purposefully deflect investment dollars away from legitimate gold pursuits and to create a stealth, cesspool / catch-all, slush-fund and a likely destination for many of these “salted tungsten bars” where they would never see the light of day – hidden behind the following legalese “shield” from the law:
  • malikk
    An obscure news item originally published in the N.Y. Post [written by Jennifer Anderson] in late Jan. 04 has always ‘stuck in my craw’:

    DA investigating NYMEX executive - Manhattan, New York, district attorney's office, Stuart Smith - Melting Pot - Brief Article – Feb. 2, 2004

    A top executive at the New York Mercantile Exchange is being investigated by the Manhattan district attorney. Sources close to the exchange said that Stuart Smith, senior vice president of operations at the exchange, was served with a search warrant by the district attorney's office last week. Details of the investigation have not been disclosed, but a NYMEX spokeswoman said it was unrelated to any of the exchange's markets. She declined to comment further other than to say that charges had not been brought. A spokeswoman for the Manhattan district attorney's office also declined comment.

    The offices of the Senior Vice President of Operations - NYMEX – is exactly where you would go to find the records [serial number and smelter of origin] for EVERY GOLD BAR ever PHYSICALLY settled on the exchange. They are required to keep these records. These precise records would show the lineage of all the physical gold settled on the exchange and hence "prove" that the amount of gold in question could not have possibly come from the U.S. mining operations – because the amounts in question coming from U.S. smelters would undoubtedly be vastly bigger than domestic mine production.

    We never have found out what happened to poor ole Stuart Smith – after his offices were "raided" – he took administrative leave from the NYMEX and he has never been heard from since. Amazingly [or perhaps not], there never was any follow up on in the media on the original story as well as ZERO developments ever stemming from D.A. Morgenthau’s office who executed the search warrant.

    Are we to believe that NYMEX offices were raided, the Sr. V.P. of operations then takes leave - all for nothing?

    These revelations should provide a “new filter” through which Rothschild exiting the gold market back in 2004 begins to make a little more sense
  • libertad
    the high price of gold we are seeing is a direct reflection on the weakening value of the dollar because of the low interest rates and loose monetary policy of the fed and congress. the welfare/warfare state is destroying the USD and everyone in washington seems okay with it or are too incompetent to understand what is happening.
    one thing is for certain: throughout history, every fiat currency eventually has been reduced to its intrinsic value, 0.
  • lm945
    Obviously they're looking in the wrong place.

    The gold taken out of the Sierra Nevadas during the Gold Rush is only a fraction of what's actually up there.

    Serious mining ended because it costs more to extract than it's actually worth.
  • Boson Bison
    Didn't Neil Young write a protest song about this topic? Way back in the 1970's. Or was that about something completely different, using artistic license? Shit, I can't remember.
  • kucinich2012
    Maybe it was "The Power of Gold" by Dan Fogelberg?
  • buckqjohnson
    Spot on Joblo, spot on. It's cover for the dollar devaluation, nothing more. With the price of gold going up/dollar going down, it's not cost prohibative anymore to dig out gold from the areas they know have gold but are harder to get at. When gold was 200 or 300 an ounce compared to how much it would costs to extract it from the ground, unless it was in a easy to get vein or area, it wouldn't be extracted. There are alot of gold mines that are owned but not mined because at the time it was costly to mine for it. No, as fast as gold is going up in relation to the dollar shows that the dollar is devaluing faster than they expected. Gold and other resources are a good indicator showing the dollar weakness.
  • malikk
    bullshit just use gold plated tungsten bars no one will ever no problem solved boy am i smart or what


    And here’s what the Chinese allegedly uncovered:



    Roughly 15 years ago – during the Clinton Administration [think Robert Rubin, Sir Alan Greenspan and Lawrence Summers] – between 1.3 and 1.5 million 400 oz tungsten blanks were allegedly manufactured by a very high-end, sophisticated refiner in the USA [more than 16 Thousand metric tonnes]. Subsequently, 640,000 of these tungsten blanks received their gold plating and WERE shipped to Ft. Knox and remain there to this day. I know folks who have copies of the original shipping docs with dates and exact weights of “tungsten” bars shipped to Ft. Knox.
  • libertate
    Running out of gold? Are people eating it or something?
  • Satan
    Were we burning for fuel? I'll bet that gold exaust smells something awful. More quackery from an ever increasing ultra-quacky media outlet.
  • Boson Bison
    I can tell you where the gold is. It's in "them thar hills." Only the rarity of something increases its' value. This story could be an attempt to raise the price of gold, by those who already have shitloads of it. All money value is technically pliable software today, by those on the far other side of the telescreen. If you're going to invest in something, invest in people who won't be mad at you. And don't have too much stuff to steal in the first place. Most "high-priced" and "high-ticket" items, in this animal's opinion, are actually sucking craters of negativity. A balance of zero is the best to hover around, no extreme debt, no extreme profit, and a sustainable existence. America has lingering excuses now for drilling human beings for oil (Iraq) and killing human beings for painkillers (Afghanistan). So the poorer the better, in true "Jesus" (not Christian) metaphysics. But not broke or hungry.
  • paulkwiatkowskikasper
    total BS. I have people in the sierra madres del sur looking for equitable buers for their gold, silver, granate and amethyst mines....native people armed this time not willing to be raped again by the same elite families of the past......

    plenty of gold for those with proper intent and heart paulkwiatkowski@mexico.com
  • johnsix
    well, I guess I better get that crown I need hahaha
  • unclesam2
    what with people and shiny metals anyway
  • shesheshe
    this is pure marketing bullshit.
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