Comments on: Holder disturbed by ‘interaction between Hasan and other people’

By: BAC520

BAC520 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:58:24 +0000

Orwell's media analysis is accurate, but ending the post with sarcasm is unhelpful. There are quite a few times I've had to shake my own head clean post-TV-mayhem and realize I've just been bamboozled by the tube or series of tubes. I don't want to miss a thing!!! Show the mylar balloon landing in the field again and the guy with the pitchfork!!! These machines will hack into your own mind if you're not careful. The illusion is one step ahead of you.

By: Gorgeous George Orwell

Gorgeous George Orwell — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:18:49 +0000

Two weeks after the massacre at Ft. Hood, all inconvenient and inconsistent details of the incident have been edited, scrubbed or censored, and all that remains is a well-defined frame for master debaters like Bill O'Reilly. As I watched him try to corral Ralph Nader into the “liberal” view that Major Hasan was insane, while Bill took the “conservative” view that Hasan was a terrorist, I opted to frame a related question in equally absurd simplicity: Major Hasan got off over 100 rounds, killing 13 including 5 of his co-workers and wounding 29 others. This would have required several reloadings of his FN Herstal semiautomatic pistol, yet a large roomful of freshly trained troops ready for Middle East deployment all stood around like deer caught in headlights, doing NOTHING. This begs the “O'Reilly”-type question “were they all cowards or just idiots?”

The actual truth is most likely to be found in all those edited, scrubbed and censored details. Like, maybe the original reports of multiple shooters were accurate. Like, maybe the original report of Major Hasan's death was accurate. Maybe there's a reason so many of Major Hasan's co-workers were targeted. Maybe there's a reason Major Hasan's hairline keeps changing in published photos. Maybe there's a reason that certain eyewitnesses have been ordered not to discuss details of the incident. The final observation I have is that if Major Hasan was really this effective a marksman (despite being reprimanded for being in poor physical shape per Raw Story article), he should have been training Army sharpshooters instead of counseling them. And unless we can promptly produce legions of equally lethal marksmen, we better get the hell out of the Middle East NOW. We are just no match for them.

By: Savantster

Savantster — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:05:17 +0000

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The reason it seems it was “allowed” to happen is because it was not a coordinated terror act.. it was a guy pissed off that America seems to be ramping up the Crusade again. I'm sure he got tired of hearing all the white trash shit heads he was counseling talking about “camel jockeys” and “rag heads” and “sand niggers”… because if you didn't know it, that's how significant numbers of “foot soldiers” talk about this.

They are now seemingly trying to make a case for terrorist action based on innuendo and confusing the people and facts. They are also trying to rally up support for the continued wars against “dirty arabs”.

As Jon Stewart pointed out.. Some guy who suggested that Hassan MUST be a terrorist because he “emailed al-Awlaki” had ALSO emailed al-Awlaki to ask him about Hassan.. so, if the act of emailing a “person of interest” regardless of the content of the email means you're a terrorist, then some journalists in America became terrorists just by asking around about the story. Seems silly, right? .. because it is.
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By: BAC520

BAC520 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:58:24 +0000

By: BAC520

BAC520 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:58:24 +0000

By: Gorgeous George Orwell

Gorgeous George Orwell — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:18:49 +0000

By: disappointedvoter

disappointedvoter — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:17:19 +0000

These goddamned religious nuts will kill us all.

By: moonbeams62

moonbeams62 — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:05:02 +0000

Holder said “there was this interaction between Hassan and other people…” IMO, that means the full body of communication Hassan had with people at Walter Reed, other soldiers, patients, his superiors, etc. not necessarily that he was communicating with Islamic Terrorists. I think Holder is emphasizing what a lot of people are wondering. When it was pretty well known that Hassan felt strongly enough about his beliefs that he would hire a lawyer to help him get out of the Army, and when he had disputes with superiors and with other officers, and when he was “counseling” patients and got poor evaluations, and he was on the internet posting vehement protests against the war, including exhortations to other Muslim soldiers,…it's pretty amazing he would be permitted to go to Hood and get assigned to be deployed. Not a good move on the Army's part. Quit twisting and interpreting what Holder said. You got this wrong.

By: Satan

Satan — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:22:35 +0000

Lol, the U.S. military killed more innocents than Hasan could ever dream of within hours of Hasan's rampage, like the Military would put it in different circumstances (like he just wasted a bunch of kids in a foreign land), Hasan saved lives. Dead soldiers always save lives. Once they're all dead and their resepctive leaders too, everything will be better all over the world.

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