Conservative group links gay-rights movement to Islamic terrorism

By Daniel Tencer
Monday, November 9th, 2009 -- 2:18 pm
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gayrightsmarchondc Conservative group links gay rights movement to Islamic terrorismA prominent social-conservative activist group is using comments made by readers on a gay-rights Web site as "evidence" that the LGBT movement is mulling using "organized terrorism" against Christians.

The Liberty Counsel released a statement on Monday linking Nidal Malik Hasan, the alleged shooter in last week's Fort Hood massacre, to the gay-rights movement.

"In the wake of the horrific act of Islamic domestic terrorism at Fort Hood Texas, it has been learned that militant homosexual activists recently made similar online postings to those of Nidal Malik Hasan, threatening additional acts of terrorism against Christians," stated an email from Matt Barber, Liberty Counsel's director of cultural affairs, as well as an associate dean at Liberty University Law School.

Liberty University is an evangelical school founded in 1971 by televangelist Jerry Falwell. Barber's email came from a Liberty University account.

Barber's email continued:

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In response to Maine’s natural marriage victory last Tuesday, “gay” activists have directly threatened to retaliate with “terrorism” and the “killing” of Christians on the popular homosexual activist JoeMyGod weblog. Liberty Counsel notified the FBI which is investigating the matter. As of this morning, the offending blog entry had been removed.

Matt Barber commented: “All potential threats of terrorism and murder are very serious business. As we learned just last week, there are ideologically driven terrorists who walk among us. After passage of Proposition 8 in California we saw that many homosexual activists are capable of threats, vandalism and even violence. Those who either threaten or attempt to incite terrorism must be immediately brought to justice. Churches and Christian leaders around the country need to be on high alert. These threats of homosexual activist terrorism must be taken very seriously."

Barber's statement did not address the question of whether Christians and heterosexuals are also "capable of threats, vandalism and even violence," or whether he believes that to be the domain of Islamists and homosexuals.

The statement listed off a long series of reader comments on the JoeMyGod blog by people evidently upset at the loss of a gay-marriage initiative in Maine in last week's elections.

According to the Liberty Counsel letter, a commenter calling himself “ColdCountry” wrote: “Will someone please give me a gun?” Another commenter, dubbed “Fritz,” warned: “What I fear is that once gay and lesbian people give up hope of achieving equality through nonviolent means, there will be radicals who will begin to hunt down haters. … All it will take is a small group of radical zealots who are willing to kill for their cause.”

The Liberty Counsel statement said commenter “tex” replied: “Fritz....you say this like it's a bad thing? Maybe a bit of well organized terrorism is just what we need. ... This happens in all cases where people are oppressed and lack representation. We will have gay and lesbian people strapping bombs to their chests and blowing up churches. All it will take is one or two more losses like this.”

As the Liberty Counsel email noted, the comments have since been taken down from the site. The group did not provide evidence that the people writing the comments were "homosexual activists," as the email claimed.

But it does appear that Barber may have been motivated by a personal element: The story on which the comments were purportedly made quoted his hailing of last week's loss for gay-marriage rights in Maine. In the wake of that outcome, the Justice Counsel referred to same-sex marriage as "oxymoronic" and "counterfeit."

The Liberty Counsel has been a prominent promoter of conservative social values for two decades. This week the group announced its seventh annual "Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign," which argues for the use of the word "Christmas" instead of "holidays" and seeks to suss out who is a "friend" of Christmas and who is a "foe."

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  • cadbad
  • djbrivvle
    Dear Luschnig - Please do not damn us (though, God knows that we deserve it). We love you. At least some of us do. What Hneftafl says is correct-ish, and please kindly recall that the Nazis were pagans. I could, but do not, blame all evils in the modern world on atheists like Stalin and weird atheist-pagans like the Nazis, but that would be--wait for it--IRRATIONAL!!
    Being non-stupid, I do not expect any terrorist attacks on my Christian person from the gay community. So please be similarly non-stupid and do not expect that religious people are all insane, murderous basketcases. Or do you really think that? Be honest. Even online.
  • judyswim8
    am interested in anything about LGBT. Actually, we need to know more about LGBT at --BiMingle.com-- to create our own world and it can help us have a good and healthy life. Hopefully, more can be shared
  • curtismorrison
    "Liberty Counsel notified the FBI..."
    I think I'm going to start a campaign to notify the FBI of every innuendo I ever see on the web that implies gays should be harmed.

    Starting with Bill OReilly implying that gays should be killed that come into Christian churches, like when they go into mosques....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91H1h9GmjN8
  • darker
    COMMON SENSE ties Right-wing group to terrorism, religious fanaticism, bigotry and hatred.
    Way NOT to go, ya idiots!
  • nader paul kucinich gravel
    Homeland Gestapo Police State
    Likud Joe Lieberman and Bibi
    Backlash Neocon AIPAC
    Projection much?
  • Name
    Does anybody see the correlation between these right wing fascists and the Nazi party? The Nazi's started out spreading fear and hate about how the people were being victimized by the Jews, and in the beginning no one took them seriously....until they took control of the government. These people have schools and are actively training their followers to create a right wing christian nation...what do you think the outcome will be of that? These fascists need to be taken seriously as the troublemakers they are, wolves hiding in sheep's clothing. I pity their fear, but am wary of their claws.
  • christospeak "Terrorism" is what normal people call Self-Defense.

    right-wing christo-nutjobs have been assaulting gays as far back as anyone can remember. Prisons are over-flowing with xians.

    The first punch was thrown L-O-N-G ago and it has never been answered. Hopefully there is some truth behind Nostradamus' prediction that the Nazi Pope will be the last.
  • jjraj
    I find it interesting that they are now accusing us of "thought crimes" which is their primary argument against the Matthew Shepard act. Hypocrisy rules the right.
  • imdougandirule
    These people bomb abortion clinics and murder doctors and they have the audacity to point their finger at others?

    Savor the irony.
  • texasaggie
    It isn't the gays who have been caught with pipe bombs in their trailer houses. It is the "good christianists." It isn't the gays who go around shooting people in churches. It's the good conservatives. It isn't the gays who dishonor the men and women killed in Iraq. It's the good "christians." It isn't the gays who preach that God wants us to kill people with the "wrong" sexual orientation. It's a Baptist minister in College Station. It isn't the gays who carry weapons to political rallies. It's the good conservatives peeing in their pants over ghoulies and ghosties and things going bump in the dark.
  • Savantster
    .
    Marriage is not "natural", so you can't have "natural marriage" of any kind. Marriage started out as a property transfer (women were property and seen as a burden to a family, but a man needed one if he wanted to produce sons to work his land). The entire premise of a "dowry" is a BRIBE to get someone to take the "useless female" off the family's hands. That marriage has become something completely different than that, because the world has moved beyond the simple existence of "make babies and care for your man" mentality of a woman's place, because we promise to afford all citizens equal rights through the Constitution, gays have every bit the same right to "marriage" as straights. Period. Anyone trying to argue otherwise will be using either faulty logic or ideological bigotry to prop up their pathetic arguments.

    "As we learned just last week, there are ideologically driven terrorists who walk among us. "

    And as we have known for a very long time, it doesn't take violence to incite fear.. and the xtians engage in both kinds of terrorism from killing people they don't like to mobilizing huge efforts to block equal rights of people they don't like. From the quote above, clearly, this guy is PROJECTING and doesn't even realize it.. isn't that called irony?
    .
  • jbrantow
    This the new tactic of the zealots ....link those they want to slander with proven evil.....just like linking the president with nazis and "commies". These pathetic hypocrites love to whine about freedom of speech and they love to spew hate of their own but like cowards, they whine when they get a taste of their own medicine. They are the real dangers to the world and mankind. I think it's time to set up internment camps for the graduates of the zealot christian universities...like monica goodling. Oops....will this comment now be fed to the FBI?
  • Savantster
    .
    Religion in general is an outdated, obsolete way to look at the world. It was a way to answer questions when we had no other way to do so. Science answers questions now, religion just causes intellectual laziness and allows for abuses of people for arbitrary reasons.

    god is the invisible friend adults take on when they outgrow their childhood invisible friend. It's still a coping mechanism for a weak, childish mind. Adherents to religion literally need to "grow up" and move into the "real" world and leave their superstitions behind.
  • elaygee
    If ever we should get fed up, it would be easy as pie. We look like everyone; all colors, all ages, all sizes, all religions, all sexes, nothing to warn the christofacists.
  • Notorious Kelly
    Our forefathers were terrorists.

    If your enemies don't fear you, you will always be a second-class citizen.
  • Savantster
    .
    But isn't it a sad state of affairs that it's the xtians that are the enemy of decency and justice and fairness?

    And you are correct.. One of the biggest problems with this whole "terrorist" and "terrorism" stage is that it's a matter of perspective. If someone is oppressing YOU, their attacks are terrorist attacks trying to put you in your place.. if you're defending yourself from tyranny, the tyrants see you as terrorists for acting against them. The real trick is to figure out who is "right", but that's almost always an impossibility since once the conflict starts, all sides end up doing things that remove their innocence.

    In this case, it's the xtains that are wrong since they are using their superstition to oppress a group that has done nothing to them (yet). Of course, xtians have been wrong for a very long time.
  • surgethis
    Too many Christians ... not enough lions.
  • leirbag96
    Sounds like a plan to me!
  • Dan
    Isn't that purple Teletubby already a gay terrorist?
  • Yes, wild groups of homosexuals will invade your living room and redecorate your house against your will. What stupidty.
  • dennycrane
    Gee, I was always told their were "commies" under my bed. I guess they'll have to wrestle it out with the gays.
  • Adam503
    No you idiots. The mens' names are Dan Savage and Martin Mull. Nothing on that blog said anything about anyone MULLing any SAVAGE acts.

    Bunch of illiterate extremist freaks.
  • jbrantow
    It's interesting to witness the after effects of inbreeding.
  • Adam503
    No you idiots. The mens' names are Dan Savage and Martin Mull. Nothing on that blog said anything about anyone MULLing any SAVAGE acts.

    Bunch of illiterate extremist freaks.
  • Adam503
    No you idiots. The mens' names are Dan Savage and Martin Mull. Nothing on that blog said anything about anyone MULLing any SAVAGE acts.

    Bunch of illiterate extremist freaks.
  • dennycrane
    Do I have to remind these bastards about the book by James Coates titled," Armed and Dangerous", that lists all the "crazy" right-wing nazis from the '80's and their resurrection today? Or how about their "bible", the fucking "Turner Diaries?" How about the book, "Brotherhood of Murder?" Yeah, there are "gay" groups that are pissed. Usually after some racist groups commit a hate crime. It's the "evangelical taliban" that does the terrorism in this country. They have taught dumbass people to hate and kill. The "Poope" should be at the top of the list. It's a wonder he doesn't use his "Poop-Mobile" to commit drive-by shootings when he travels.
  • BigBearCO
    Radical christians are already on the Department of Homeland Securities watch list with radical islam.

    These christians need to grow up and make the moral choice to leave their radical fundamentalist lifestyle.
  • eekeller
    F A K E Christians!
  • edwards_com
    Not any more .....REAL CHRISTIANS.
  • leathersmith
    matt barber is a zit
  • jack251
    How long before these degenerate sociopaths start infighting for their flock of morons, knock each other off and blame it on the gays? Or maybe Pastor Bubba's 5th wife catches him shtucking a cub scout and sprays his sorry ass with her Bushmaster and they find the gun the next morning among the props at the local theater. Not hard to imagine.
  • banditalamode
    Go to Alex Jones' site and see how many threats there are against liberals - not to mention drudge, free republic, etc. Their annonomous comments, they could be posted by anyone.
  • luschnig
    I don't know how those goddamn Christians can keep a straight face when they make their whining hypocritical complaints about gay violence. You would think that they were a bunch of utterly peace loving innocents who never murdered six million Jews or twenty million Soviet atheists or countless thousands of African Americans by their cross bearing KKK. When killing is done it will be Christians who will do it because their fairy tale god will order them to murder his enemies.
  • djbrivvle
    Dear Luschnig - Please do not damn us (though, God knows that we deserve it). We love you. At least some of us do. What Hneftafl says is correct-ish, and please kindly recall that the Nazis were pagans. I could, but do not, blame all evils in the modern world on atheists like Stalin and weird atheist-pagans like the Nazis, but that would be--wait for it--IRRATIONAL!!
    Being non-stupid, I do not expect any terrorist attacks on my Christian person from the gay community. So please be similarly non-stupid and do not expect that religious people are all insane, murderous basketcases. Or do you really think that? Be honest. Even online.
  • hneftafl
    Just a little correction here: the approximately 20 million Russian deaths commonly attributed to Joseph Stalin were not Christian-on-Atheist murders, but quite the opposite. The Soviet Union was officially atheist, but many and perhaps most of those who died were privately of one religious affiliation or another. Not that I'm knocking atheists, or promoting Christians, in general; I just wanted to point that out.
  • sergesret
    I think in both the German and Russian cases it was more about ethnic genocide. Both Russia and German had strong anti-jewish strains. Also, there was a long antagonism between the Russians and their Muslim and Asian neighbors. Add to that a heaping helping of paranoia, expansionist aims and you get quite the ugly mess. You still see some of that in places like Chechnya, Georgia etc. The Russian Orthodox Church was suppressed but that strain of Christianity ran deep within ethnic Russians, and is still in evidence today. So I don't think the attack on Christianity went significantly beyond eliminating troublesome priests or using it as a pretext to get someone on thought crimes.
  • alverant
    It's the anti-gay rights groups that's committed acts of terrorism, not the pro-gay rights groups. The right wingers are the ones commit "hate crimes" which are really just small-scale terrorist attacks while playing the victim when they are called out on it.
  • Name
    Most of the home-grown terrorism in the US has been coming from extreme right-wingers much like most of the people associated with Jerry Falwell and Liberty. Their dean is deliberately trying to use scare tactics in order to further his anti-gay agenda, which is not surprising. The fact that he's a dean at a "university" however, is surprising.
  • rextrek1
    4 words regarding this change "Oh Mary,Pa-leeeez" typical Christians - ALWAYS playing the Victim as THEY Victimize others...Go EFF yourselves American Taliban! chk thi sout - a Parody of NOM's Maggie Galagher,Thanking ALL those who Helped Fight Gay Marriage in Maine

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9JZ9ONaCec&feat...
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