Democrats’ healthcare bill would pay for ‘prayer’ treatment

By John Byrne
Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009 -- 11:36 am
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john kerry Democrats healthcare bill would pay for prayer treatmentWhat do Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) have in common?

A soft spot for Christian Scientists.

The three senators have quietly inserted a provision into the Democrats' healthcare overhaul that would allow the Christian Science church to receive remuneration from the federal government for prayer treatments as medical expenses.

Why are liberal Democrats teaming up with a conservative senator for a provision that would normally be the bane of the Senate's liberal elite? Because the headquarters of the Christian Science church is in Boston.

"The measure would put Christian Science prayer treatments -- which substitute for or supplement medical treatments -- on the same footing as clinical medicine," the Los Angeles Times' Tom Hamburger and Kim Geiger, who found the measure, write. "While not mentioning the church by name, it would prohibit discrimination against 'religious and spiritual healthcare.'"

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"We are making the case for this, believing there is a connection between healthcare and spirituality," Phil Davis, a church spokesman, told the reporters. "We think this is an important aspect of the solution, when you are talking about not only keeping the cost down, but finding effective healthcare."

Liberals are sure to be up in arms, arguing the provision will allow some of Americans' already high insurance costs to be tapped to pay for religious prayer. The constitution includes a provision that separates church and state, which critics cite as the key reason for opposing the move.

Speaking for Sen. Kerry, spokeswoman Whitney Smith said that insurers wouldn't be forced to cover prayer, but that it would prevent insurers from "discriminating" against "spiritual care."

"The amendment would prevent insurers from discriminating against benefits that qualify as spiritual care if the care is recognized by the IRS as a legitimate medical expense," Smith is quoted as saying. "Plans are free to impose standards on spiritual and medical care as long as both are treated equally. It does not mandate that plans provide spiritual care."

According to Hamburger and Geiger, the proposal would have a negligible overall cost on the bill, as the Church has fewer than 1,800 branches worldwide and continues to see membership declines. Prayer treatments cost from $20 to $40 a day -- which the church describes as competitive with medical care.

The Church of Christ, Christian Scientist was founded in 1879.

Supporters could argue that the provision might increase the chance that some Republicans would sign on to the capacious, $900 billion healthcare package; none, however, have indicated their support.

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  • rextrek1
    huh..? Paying for Prayer aka Hockus Pokus treatments....but god forbid a woman (a poor woman, NEEDS an abortion to SAVE her life) that won't be covered?
  • Last I checked PRAYING was free. If your tax exempt church wants to "cure" you then there is no reason why TAXPAYERS should pay for it.
  • dennycrane
    On the other hand, if I went to church, paid the pastor money for his services over a length of time and received a blessing to rid a disease and it failed, I should be able to have all my money returned.

    And they should be paying taxes as a service to the public as a business.
  • Savantster
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    They strip State single payer options, and add paying for superstition? Gotta love 'Murika.
  • DeesNutz
    Then they should cover holistic treatments and medical marijuana as well. Phuckers.
  • voreason3
    You've got to be kidding.

    This country is doomed.
  • homeromj
    I say go right ahead! Let them...under the condition that they MUST demonstrably prove, in a scientific fashion that their prayers were the reason for the patient recovering and not ANY modern medical treatment. And too, if the patient should die because their prayers were not sufficient in magical powers then those that prayed will be prosecuted for MURDER.
  • Savantster
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    The problem is, they are saying this is like taking your medicine.. That is, you take 3 pills and pray for your ailment. You can't really do anything about it working or not (there is no scientific evidence showing prayer does anything, that's already established).. but this bill is intended to make sure insurance companies have to pay for the "treatment" anyway.

    I want to know why this isn't being extended to ALL "spiritual treatments" from ALL "churches".. I mean, why won't insurance pay for an Exorcism? Why does one group's delusion get covered, but another's doesn't?

    I know I'd start my own church and magically need "daily treatments" that cost around $200/day.. that should get me sitting quite healthy!
  • apishapa
    Ooh-e-ooo- ah-ah-bing-bang-bada-bada bing bang.

    I'll be a witch doctor. I'll charge Insurance Companies $150 a pop for faith healing.Surely they won't discriminate against alternative religions.
  • starvapor
    Classic Doublespeak through equivocation....
    "The amendment would prevent insurers from discriminating against benefits that qualify as spiritual care if the care is recognized by the IRS as a legitimate medical expense," Smith is quoted as saying. "Plans are free to impose standards on spiritual and medical care as long as both are treated equally. It does not mandate that plans provide spiritual care."
  • jimbo92107
    Then why not voodoo? Santeria? African witch doctors? Show me the difference.
  • Great. Hardcore anti-choicers are bitching about their tax dollars paying for abortions and ready to scuttle the whole bill for it, yet they're going to give a thumbs up to more of MY tax dollars going to religious institutions.

    Unfuckinglovely.
  • Bob_in_Prague
    Unbelievable! Go to your Pastor, tell him your woes, ask him to pray for your wife, whomever, and he says, "Fine, which program do you want? 20 bucks a day, 40?" WTF???
  • jaspervonspatula
    More confirmation that John Kerry is a complete ass-hat.
  • donofcali
    Get that shit out of the bill you idiots.
  • Stephen
    Paying for prayer? I thought that was something that was to be done for free. Does god grant answers to those who pay more? How does that work exactly? Hell, give me some money, and I'll pray all day and all night. Who wants to pay? Do I hear $10, do I hear $1,000, why stop there, I'll pray real hard for a million. No guarantees, of course.
  • DownriverDem
    Not good.
    No offense, but Ted Kennedy is no longer with us.
  • lorn
    Obama has been pandering to the Christian extremist right since the day he took office.
    His devotees ignore this fact, but it is simply true.
  • sambarber
    WTH? I'm a Christian and this is completely BOGUS. It won't pass through the final vote.
  • Patriot
    We shouldn't discriminate based on religion. We should discriminate based on quackery. Since there's no evidence that Christian Science works, there's no reason for taxpayers to foot the bill.
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