More declassified documents reveal FBI warnings about interrogation tactics

By Joe Byrne
Saturday, November 7th, 2009 -- 8:44 pm
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ciacentralintelligenceagencyspyspies More declassified documents reveal FBI warnings about interrogation tacticsPreviously censored documents released late Friday by the Department of Justice have shed more light on the FBI investigation into CIA interrogation tactics. Part of the record shows how FBI officials understood that the 'battleground tactics' used by the Pentagon were ineffective and wouldn't lead to prosecutions. As early as 2003, the Federal Bureau of Investigations sent repeated warnings to the Department of Defense, but abusive interrogations occurred for 4 more years.

These latest documents were part of an ongoing Freedom of Information Act lawsuit being conducted by the American Civil Liberties Union. Last week, newly released memos indicated that the FBI began to conduct an investigation into CIA interrogation techniques and secret prisons, but was denied regular access to prisoners. Department of Justice officials decided that there was not enough evidence to prosecute CIA interrogators.

This week, fresh documents in the ACLU lawsuit go deeper into the conflict between the FBI and the Pentagon. The belief at the Bureau was that though the Army-based interrogation tactics were useful for battlefield information gathering, "the reliability of information obtained using such tactics is highly questionable, not to mention potentially legally inadmissible in court.” This memo from May 2003 brings important questions to mind: Did the Office of Legal Counsel lawyers drafting later memos for the CIA not know about these early warnings? Did the CIA dismiss these warnings altogether, or were they told to ignore them?

Senior officials from the Criminal Investigative Task Force “lamented the fact that many DHS [Defense Human Intelligence Services] interrogators seem to believe that the only way to elicit information from uncooperative detainees is to use aggressive techniques on them.”

According to the Washington Independent, "Not only did the officials not succeed in convincing DHS to abandon the techniques, but the document described how the military and DHS inaccurately portrayed to the Pentagon that the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit approved of and helped design the very techniques that the BAU warned would backfire." The mischaracterization by the DHS may be the sole reason that abusive interrogations were carried on 4 years after stern FBI warnings reached the Department of Defense.

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The new documents can be found here.

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  • rxgary
    alot of people don't believe in hell, one things for sure they will find out just like richard bruce cheney will its real and getting hotter every day because of their crimes
  • Phil E. Drifter
    don't be stupid and waste people's time reading your stupid comments. go back to the playground where kids fantasize daily. Leave the real world to us adults who are superstition-free.

    The reason they do this is because THEY KNOW there's no afterlife, and they're taking care of themselves in THIS one.
  • rxgary
    all right go have your adult fun today ,whose they? ignorant fools like you who are soon to find out they were very wrong,only ooops its too late to change when you are burning for eternity. your day arrives sooner than you can imagine
  • mledford27613
    I am sorry but I don't believe in imaginary places either. The said thing is that most of those people in congress do and they continually only do what best serves them. So does believing in imaginary places and zombie jesus make you and better person.....Don't think so.
  • nader paul kucinich gravel
    Cheney's CIA does what it wants.
    "Above" the laws of the little people ~
  • kdoug
    When the FBI were warning the CIA ... did they happen to also warn Dick Cheney?
  • Phil E. Drifter
    meet the new boss, same as the old boss. FBI making this loud and clear is exactly like Powell distancing himself from BushCo after '04: they don't wanna be involved should the worse-case scenario play out.
  • aurellio
    The FBI does not want to be linked historically with torture. So they are trying to make it clear that "they told them not to it."
  • steveginil
    aurellio: "The FBI does not want to be linked historically with torture. So they are trying to make it clear that "they told them not to it."

    And we've known since a few months after the torturing became public that the FBI was refusing to participate and was warning them. Much of this is old news, but it all needs to be out there again. The FBI was telling them not only that it was not effective (a legally completely irrelevant point), but that it WAS illegal, and that they were putting themselves at risk for violations. Since day one, all this was only going to be dealt with effectively in the courts. Some day - hopefully in our lifetimes - that will happen. It took decades for the Argentinians to prosecute; there is no statute of limitations on war crimes or crimes against humanity. These CIA people are at risk for the rest of their lives. Cheney doesn't give a sh*t, because he knows his heart isn't going to last much longer. But the rest of them - I wouldn't want to be them. Especially after the Italian court found the 23 CIA people guilty of kidnapping last week, the international courts are going to get bolder and bolder. And these people are at risk every time they cross a border. Just like Rumsfeld in Germany.
  • kayttt2000
    A Rothschild/ CIA Mk Ultra Victim,,,

    The CIA was discussing the FBI..
    Every State has a FBI Director with there boss Robert Mueller lll,,,
    I think there is good and bad FBI,,,
    But on decisions of investigating 9/11,,or with the issue in this article Robert Mueller lll had the final say...

    I think the corruption and the CIA were having one h*ll of a time handling the good FBI directors,,but ultimately Mueller had the final say...
    It appears Mueller's answer to everything was bury it...

    This articles says that there were good FBI employees that took this issue to there directors who then took this issue to Robert Mueller lll,,,,,(a Bush Friend)...

    Because they used me, the CIA and the corruption were very concerned about the good FBI directors,,,
    They kept saying,,"Check the FBI",,,there concern wasn't Mueller but the 50 State FBI Directors..
    I can't speak for all 50 State FBI directors,,but when you read about FBI corruption it appears to be rogue FBI with Robert Mueller lll doing nothing...
    I don't think most of the FBI Directors are corrupt,,all roads lead to Robert Mueller lll,,the Bush family friend...
  • turo62
    There is no way the white house didn't know how the FBI felt.
  • Ted. S
    CIA warned FBI repeatedly about 9/11 terrorist in US before 9/11
  • Phil E. Drifter
    And whenever any of them spoke up to their superiors they were told to shut up. Or they were canned.

    www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_car...
    Bush Family's Partnership w/ Killers Americans
    http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smokingguns....
  • Phil E. Drifter
  • sanchosdad
    since all roads lead to the top where all the bush family friends reside, there will never be any real investigation into what happened. they will all do a regan (st ronnie the asshole) or a cheney (the devil himself) and say that they cant remember what all happened.

    obama needs to grow a pair and go after these people. but then again. he does have rahm (J) advising him to not rock the boat.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    He's part of the problem, not part of the solution. the 2k8 election was just as fixed as 2k, 2k4 (bush stealing both) both parties are complicit because both are benefiting by their oligarchy of the country. ("Oh the US has overcome racial tension by electing their first (half) black president. what a success!" will make the sheeple think they've overcome some obstacle, forget about killing saddam so they could steal the oil he wouldn't share with the world. The contracts have since been signed in the last year, to divy up Iraqi oil.)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Lie

    His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

    The US gov is fashioning themselves after Adolf.

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fivei... :

    "Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9/11 attacks even though he had no previous record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit World Trade Center 1
    CIA Director George Tenet said "You know, this has bin Laden's fingerprints all over it."

    The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. (i've read that 5 multinational corporations run 95% of US broadcasting, and are owned by zionists; of course this is too much or me to care to verify-philedrifter)

    But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the
    9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden's statement of denial in which he said:
    "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States." (28)
  • madame48
    wow, bin laden & ksm did certainly admit it, and bragged, and we got intel from their computers/papers. don't be blind. He also had already done the Cole attack.
  • obonglemon
    Don't you get it? The people giving the CIA orders didn't want or need convictions, or even information about real terrorist threats, they just needed "confessions" (which is all torture is good for reliably extracting). They just needed some brown faced patsies to say 'Yes I'm a terrorist', because they needed there to BE terrorists. That is all.
  • johnhkennedy
    Cheney seems to be proud of knowingly having violated our Federal Torture Laws. Cheney knew Torture was a violation of US Laws but ordered Torture anyway. Such arrogant disregard for our laws and for his Oath Of Office.

    If President Obama, Attorney General Holder and our Democratic Congress fail to enforce these Federal Laws by prosecution, our so called "Rule of Law" is meaningless. Why should any of us obey our Federal Laws if our top two elected politicians don't have to. Isn't it true as Obama said "no one is above the law"?


    Keep asking ALL politicians at ALL public events "Why do they support Torture?"
    If they aren't actively calling for enforcement of our Federal Torture Laws They Support Torture.


    SIGN THE PETITIONS
    Demanding both a Commission of Inquiry
    and Prosecution for All the Bush-Cheney Crimes at ANGRYVOTERS.ORG

    http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG

    Only Prosecution Stops Torture!
    Only Prosecution Stops Violations of Our Constitution and Rule Of Law.
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