US concerned about definition of aggression as international crime

By Agence France-Presse
Thursday, November 19th, 2009 -- 11:15 am
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 US concerned about definition of aggression as international crimeTHE HAGUE — A United States ambassador said Thursday that Washington was concerned about how aggression will be defined as an international crime.

"I would be remiss not to share with you my country's concerns about an issue ... to which we attach particular importance: the definition of the crime of aggression," US war crimes ambassador Stephen Rapp told a gathering in The Hague of the International Criminal Court's Assembly of State Parties (ASP).

The court's founding Rome Statute, of which the United States is not a signatory, determines that the ICC can try aggression, though no legal definition has been agreed upon.

The issue is to be discussed at an ICC review conference in Kampala, Uganda, next May.

Rapp, who made no allusion to the United States ratifying the statute in the future, said Washington was concerned about the way a draft definition of aggression had been framed.

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"Our view has been and remains that, should the Rome Statute be amended to include a defined crime of aggression, jurisdiction should follow a Security Council determination that aggression has occurred."

He declined to elaborate when approached afterwards.

The United States is taking part in a meeting of the ASP, as an observer, for the first time since the world's only permanent court for genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity started operating in 2002.

The ASP, the court's management and oversight body, is made up of representatives of all 110 member parties.

Former president George W. Bush had fiercely opposed the ICC, fearing it could target Americans out of political bias considering US dominance around the world.

Rapp said "the commitment of the Obama administration to the rule of law and the principle of accountability is firm."

On Wednesday, ASP president Christian Wenaweser welcomed the US presence as "a very important gesture."

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  • overdoneputaforkinit
    I don't understand. Are they going to make it illegal to start preemptive wars for resources, I mean to bring other countries democracy and change their form of government and leaders for them to make them friendly to our big corporations who want to extract resources without environmental concerns or costs and also take all the profit, to make that illegal for everyone including the United States?

    Those bastards!
  • Elim
    You should use a sarcasm tag, overdone. Some people are stupid enough that they won't get your post.
  • Max_1
  • dotmafia
    What about the war of aggression that George W. Bush, and the Republican and Democrats in Congress waged upon the American people?

    - Guilty of the imposition of state terrorism and fearmongering upon the American people.

    - Guilty of economic warfare waged against the American people.

    - Guilty for the willful failure to secure the safety of American citizens in New Orleans and New York City.

    The American government's domestic policies are just as destructive against its own citizens as are its illegal wars of aggression against poor third world nations.
  • McLean, Virginia -- It's truly depressing that George W. Bush's War of Aggression has never been punished.

    Paul Matthews
  • Satan
    George W. Bush's war of agression was also Bill Clinton's and H.W. Bush's as well, and now it's Obama's and if you can't connect the fucking dots from Jan 17, 1991 to November 19, 2009 then you are truly a complete fucking moron.
  • rickpetes
    Satan, you lying bastard, this stuff pre-dates Woodrow Wilson. Don't sugar coat our past...
  • wakeup32176
    Not to be all gloom and doom, but let’s look at 1861 forward. Mass death and destruction equals more money for the folks who start the wars.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    1913 Federal Reserve (which is neither federal nor is there a reserve) signed into law.

    These guys make money making money and charging interest on it. Federal deficit will never be paid off because it's what the US government owes the federal reserve.

    it's why Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and Kennedy were assassinated; they all opposed central banking.
  • miggy
    The news outlets, major and minor, conservative or progressive, small print or bold, are helping the world to better understand the USA.

    While the USA may be best explained by its 'distinctions or factions'i.e..... conservative v progressive, Republican v Democrat v Independent etc, the USA is showing the entire world 'what it is made of'.
    The USA "factions" are currently embroiled in a matter that the other 'developed nations' have already solved, or are working to solve; that of health care.

    While at the same time the USA is ignoring the very serious crimes committed by the eight year Bush administration, most of which adversely effected and in several cases 'impacted in a deadly manner' several other nations, directly. The other nations of the world that were not directly impacted, were none the less adversely impacted by these many crimes.

    But the USA is not answering those many crimes except to excuse them, or ignore them, or cover them up--- or try to keep them covered up-- or work hard to discredit them when they are 'uncovered; and they are showing the world the 'true character of the USA'.

    The USA is a lawless dangerous arrogant rogue nation that cannot be expected to hold themselves accountable for their action and the crimes those actions entail.

    The world still remembers when the USA and UK who has been complicit in many of these crimes, held others to account for these same crimes---just over sixty years ago; or two generations.

    How much longer the world will be willing to tolerate this arrogant hypocrisy is a matter of speculation. But the fact that the world cannot allow these many crimes to go unanswered would be foolish to argue; and only the most conservative of fools in the USA would think that the world will ignore these crimes. They will do so at their own peril.

    The most tragic of ironys is that the world is very aware that they need not 'invade' the USA. They simply need to 'cut the credit lines--OFF' and the Americans will turn upon themselves; indeed they did once before and learned little from the experience.

    A nation that treats others with such barbarity, while 'prosecuting' the same crimes committed by others; are capable of absolutely anything.
    They are indeed the most dangerous people on the face of the planet; 'they are the USA', and the world tolerates the USA at their own peril; and they are aware of this.

    "If the USA were another nation, the USA would invade the USA to keep the world safe; and they would be justified."
  • Hawaiianstyle
    If I was the Administration I would be concerned about the definition of aggression too!!!!!!!

    I would also be careful about bragging or even referring to the "RULE OF LAW."

    Torture... unpunished, uninvestigated
    Rendition
    Habeas Corpus
    Military Commissions
    Wars to eliminate WMDs that don't exist
    Domestic spying

    etc.
  • theriverlethe
    ag·gres·sion (-grshn)
    n.
    1. The act of initiating hostilities or invasion.
    2. The practice or habit of launching attacks.
    3. Hostile or destructive behavior or actions.

    I hope Mr. Rapp finds that helpful.
  • matticusfinch
    i welcome this, the United States Government needs to be reigned in big time.
  • rollandmiller
    Well we know what the problem is here; the USA is a War Criminal now and many times in the past if aggression becomes a War Crime, which it is!

    Countries that carry out illegal aggression against another country must be subject to War Crimes.

    This should include rendition also.

    Rendition makes every citizen in our world UNSAFE as they could be picked up by any country who does this sort of thing, and held indefinatly without charge.
  • BAC520
    GUILTY!!!!! Guilty as charged. Also bring 9/11 TRUTH before the HAGUE if any of you civilized people if you have the TIME. INCLUDING PAKISTANI INTELLIGENCE AS WELL. Both religious nutcases guilty. AND KEEP THE FREAKIN' LASER DEATH SPIES OUT OF MY CLEAR BLUE SKY. Space Command my ass!!!!!
  • mschlee
    Try 'Em & Fry 'Em


    FREE AMERICA

    REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
  • martydidier
    This is a great idea! Count my vote in!

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL
  • Elim
    Are the 'minor technical difficulties' related to being unable to login?
  • damixaustex
    Why not allow a contemporaneous legal view of aggression? The US has recently shown it's willingness to flout the law and global treaties when it comes to it's perception of what's "good for America." The US repeatedly confuses the welfare of its people with the dominance of it's corporations. The two are not the same in my view.

    The world is frustrated with the lack of US will to punish the aggressions of the Bush administration. A legal definition of aggression will surely be dismantled and circumvented by the likes of John Yoo.

    So, what is aggression?

    Invading another country? Sure.
    Dominating local politics so as to achieve an outcome favorable to US companies? Well, yeah.
    Rhetoric intended to destabilize a nations government? Hmm, that's a toughy. depends on the situation.
    Destabilizing a nations currency to aid the takeover of it's economy? Maybe.

    I say it should be judged on a case by case basis by the world. The US should stop trying to stack the deck in it's favor and start playing by the rules of the table.
  • Praxman
    Pfft!

    No dice.
    It's good cop/bad cop optics.
    The ICC wants a bigger definitional net because it's running out of Africans and Serbs to try.

    Even if they establish a working legal definition (as opposed to all those OTHER already established laws that the ICC could rule on anytime they want) -- the net result is that countries like the US would still be immune to prosecution, but will simply use the 'new' category of aggression as a PR stick to beat the ICC into prosecuting the US Empire's latest victim.
    It's good cop/bad cop optics.

    None of these international outfits (NATO, UN, UN Security Council, NAFTA, WTO, ICC, etc) are legit over and above the laws of the countries these actions take place. Or more importantly, the oaths any politicians take in order to be admitted to office. Americans like to think there is some duty bound exceptionism that places a higher standard on it's politicians and it's sacrosanct Constitution than any other politician.

    The actions of many clustered western politicians are downright treasonous and PR relations by the ICC to provide respectable cover to EU nations, that are currently engaged in war crime, so to suggest another category for political purposes, is as callous, as their outright refusal to simply use their domestic laws to prosecute their OWN politicians and nationals.
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