Iraq says 87,000 Iraqis killed since US invasion

By The Associated Press
Wednesday, October 14th, 2009 -- 12:16 pm
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iraq 6.17.06a Iraq says 87,000 Iraqis killed since US invasionAt least 87,000 Iraqis lost their lives from 2004-2008 in violence, the government said in its first comprehensive official tally released since the war began.

The report by the Human Rights Ministry said 85,694 people were killed from the beginning of 2004 to Oct. 31, 2008 and 147,195 were wounded. It counted Iraqi civilians, military and police but did not cover U.S. military deaths, insurgents, or foreigners, including contractors or U.S. forces. And it did not include the first months of the war after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

The Associated Press reported in April that the government had recorded 87,215 Iraqi deaths from 2005 to February 2009, a toll very similar to the latest release. It was based on government statistics obtained by the AP and covered violence ranging from catastrophic bombings to execution-style slayings.

Until the AP report, the government's toll of Iraqi deaths had been one of the most closely guarded secrets of the war. It has been hotly disputed because of the high political stakes in a war opposed by many countries and by a large portion of the American public. Critics on each side accuse the other of manipulating the toll to sway public opinion.

The ministry's report came out late Tuesday as part of a larger study on human rights in the country. It described the years that followed the invasion, which toppled Saddam Hussein's regime, as extremely violent.

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"Through the terrorist attacks like explosions, assassinations, kidnappings and forced displacements, the outlawed groups have created these terrible figures which represent a big challenge for the rule of law and for the Iraqi people," it said.

Violence has declined dramatically since the worst years, but almost every person in Iraq has been touched by the violence. Insurgents continue to target civilians, especially Shiites and their shrines.

Iraq's death toll continued to climb on Wednesday when three near simultaneous blasts struck the southern Shiite holy city of Karbala. At least six people were killed, Iraqi police and medical officials said.

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  • lorn
    This is the PUPPET government of the evil imperialist overlords the USA, Israel and the UK.
    This puppet government has no legitimacy. This puppet government is telling a disgusting lie with the super low 85,000 estimate.

    For several years credible independent human rights organizations have put the numbers at 750,000 to over one million dead due to the illegal invasion by Bush, now continued by Obama.

    For a so called progressive news site to repeat this blatant lie is the height of hypocrisy.
    Is it any wonder why the world hates America? The fact that so many of you welcome Obama with open arms and praise his name while he carries on with the Bush agenda of murder and chaos proves that the USA is hopeless. The only thing the world can hope for is that your evil nation ends up like Nazi Germany. Defeated and painfully aware of the pure evil that has been unleashed upon the world with your tax dollars, your young men and your willful ignorance and complicity. You have blood on your hands and are every bit as guilty as the Germans who did nothing while people were tortured, gassed and killed.

    The evil empire must fail for the world to move forward. Please hurry up!
  • no_bullshit
    How come Bush doesnt get a Nobel Peace also prize then??????
  • miggy
    It is amazing if not downright scary that the war in Iraq has all but disappeared from progressive websites such as this. This laxity allows President Obama and the Generals in Iraq to get away with "murder". Quite recently Brig. General Steve Lanza told reporters in Baghdad that "we need to be flexible on drawdown from Iraq". Gen. Lanza clearly made policy statements for the future of the war in Iraq. It is my opinion that policy statements must be made by the commander-in-chief Obama and not by one of his underlings. If the policy statements by Gen. Lanza were supported by President Obama he should at least have said so. He did not.

    I am quite sure that Generals would not have gotten away with this during the administrations of Roosevelt, Truman, or Eisenhower. The fact that the military has become the "spokesperson" for war policies is a bad development. Is President Obama too timid to call them back or is he simply hiding the bad news behind the broad shoulder of Generals? I think that the second is true.
  • miggy
    It is amazing if not downright scary that the war in Iraq has all but disappeared from progressive websites such as this. This laxity allows President Obama and the Generals in Iraq to get away with "murder". Quite recently Brig. General Steve Lanza told reporters in Baghdad that "we need to be flexible on drawdown from Iraq". Gen. Lanza clearly made policy statements for the future of the war in Iraq. It is my opinion that policy statements must be made by the commander-in-chief Obama and not by one of his underlings. If the policy statements by Gen. Lanza were supported by President Obama he should at least have said so. He did not.

    I am quite sure that Generals would not have gotten away with this during the administrations of Roosevelt, Truman, or Eisenhower. The fact that the military has become the "spokesperson" for war policies is a bad development. Is President Obama too timid to call them back or is he simply hiding the bad news behind the broad shoulder of Generals? I think that the second is true.
  • CharlieL
    Only off by one zero (850,000 versus 85,000) -- not bad for government propoganda designed to make the whole disgusting mess seem "palatable."

    No mention, of course, of the MILLIONS who were displaced from their homes, and may very well have ended up dead in other countries.
  • tomsebourn
    Too bad it's an AP story. I would love to tell the world about this but don't want to be sued by the AP for copyright infringement.
    As far as I am concerned, anything from the AP only exists if the main stream media want's to pay for it and pass it along.
    They charge 12 dollars a word to use their stuff. That can add up to a lot of money in a short amount of time.
  • Satan
    Bullshit death tolls always make the big news. Like another poster said, they left a zero off. They also left out deaths incurred in the 13 years previous to Bush II's invasion. The increase in child mortality rates alone during the 90's knocked off at least 500,000 kids, more likely closer to between 1 and 1.5 million.

    It's becoming apparent that it doesn't matter who's president, the same foreign policy is pursued regardless of what these assholes crap out their mouth. Most Iraqi's have lived their entire lives under a canopy of U.S. jets and American made death.
  • bayside
    Bet its over a million....
  • 87k deaths my ass. If you believe that low figure, you deserve what the government is doing in your name.
  • kscitydude
    I don't think the Iraq people will be putting up a gold statue of Bush in the future.
  • PunchDrunkLove
    these are bull shit numbers, two very reliable polls were done by british pollsters and they have the figure at over 1 million, the lancet had it at over 600 thousand in 2005.
  • dennycrane
    This is very fuzzy" math. I know there are at least 300,000 counting ALL the deaths on all factions.
  • Philip
    It was reported by the AP in December 2003 that the Ministry of Health was ordered to stop counting civilian deaths.A count starting the following month would be very suspect.
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