Goldman Sachs 2009 bonuses to double 2008’s; $23 billion could send 460,000 to Harvard, buy insurance for 1.7 million families

By John Byrne
Tuesday, October 13th, 2009 -- 8:07 am
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2008 05 27 1MillionDollars Goldman Sachs 2009 bonuses to double 2008s; $23 billion could send 460,000 to Harvard, buy insurance for 1.7 million familiesYesterday, we brought you the insurance company that wouldn't insure a 17-pound infant because he was too heavy. Today, we bring you the investment bank that manages to double its bonuses during the worst recession since the Great Depression.

On Thursday, Goldman Sachs will announce the firm's bonus payments for 2009. Analysts expect the bonus pool to mushroom to $23 billion -- double the bonus pool paid to employees in 2008. Earlier this year, Goldman Sachs said that it had put aside $11.4 billion for bonuses during the first half of the year.

“The absolute size of compensation payouts will rise significantly,” Keith Horowitz, an analyst at Citigroup, wrote in a note to clients two weeks ago, highlighted by Andrew Sorkin in The New York Times' dealbook column Tuesday.

How much is $23,000,000,000?

For one thing, it's enough to send 460,000 full paying students to Harvard University for one year, or 115,000 for four years.

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It's enough to pay the health insurance premium for the average American family ($13,375) 1.7 million times.

It's enough to upgrade 191 million computers to Windows 7 operating system (priced at $119.99), or to buy 115 million iPhones at $199.99 (provided the recipient was willing to sign a two-year contract).

Or, apparently, it's enough to reward the employees of Goldman Sachs for a bonanza trading year, at a firm where average employee compensation was recently $622,000 -- and likely to be greater this year.

The $23 billion figure could leave some American taxpayers woozy -- the US government bailed out Goldman Sachs with a multi-billion payment last year, which the firm has since repaid.

But while Goldman is likely to pay its biggest bonuses ever to employees, the firm pays very little in taxes worldwide. In 2008, the company was said to have paid just $14 million in taxes worldwide, and paid $6 billion in 2007.

The firm's corporate tax rate? About 1 percent. According a prominent tax lawyer, “They have taken steps to ensure that a lot of their income is earned in lower-tax jurisdictions.”

Sorkin says Goldman's CEO is trying to hold off criticism by making a big charitable donation.

"Now there’s talk inside Goldman that it is considering making a huge charitable donation — perhaps more than $1 billion — as a way to help deflect the criticism," Sorkin says. "Such a donation would be a welcome gesture that would no doubt benefit many needy organizations. But it would most likely be seen for what it is: a one-time move to draw attention away from where most of the money is really going. A large charitable donation also raises questions about the company’s fiduciary duty to its shareholders; it could be seen as giving away profits that ostensibly belong to them."

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  • Michael Callahan
    It official. The war on the middle class is over. The rich have won. This shows vividly that the American Financial System and the United States Government is set up to ensure that the rich are guaranteed that anything they do, including driving the world economy into depression, will not stop them from losing. The only place the middle class holds in the United States is to be in the unemployment line for 2 years (10% unemployment, 40% of which without a job for 2 years) waiting for the crumbs to fall from the tables of the rich.
  • stockshock
    Secret Software & Naked Short Selling
    We need NSS arrests - not Insider Trading arrests
    It is November 5th, 2009 at high noon and the SEC is all over the news about another arrest. They are all on stage giving this big press conference on 14 arrests for Insider Trading connected to the Galleon Group investigation. Is it Insider Trading? The Government wanted the world to believe this caused the financial meltdown on Wall Street. Three weeks earlier the SEC made the first arrest for Insider Trading involving Raj Rajaratnam and 5 other people on Wall Street.
    It is my opinion that the Government and the SEC is involved in a cover up to try and make people think that it was insider trading that caused the crisis of 2008. Let the truth be known. The news media, along with Goldman Sachs and many other Wall Street companies and people of power are all involved in the biggest cover up in the history of the United States. It involves greed to the fullest extend. The SEC is responsible, under the leadership of Christopher Cox in July 2007, the Securities Exchange Commission abolished the Up Tick rule. The elimination of the Up Tick rule created a wave of corruption that grew out of control, based on Naked Short Selling and the use of secret software and super fast computers.
    Insider trading has played a role in the financial crisis, yet the story not being told by the news media is the arrest of a Goldman Sachs employee who tried to steal Goldman Sachs secret software. This arrest came over the July 4th Holiday week-end and was aired briefly on a Saturday night on TV and then came Monday July 6th, 2009 and the story disapeared. A few weeks later Goldman Sachs reported its FY 2009 2nd QT earnings ( April – May -June ) and Goldman Sachs made over $100 million dollars a day in 46 of the 64 trading days for that quarter. How could this be possible after a 17 month recession. Wall Street changed two major Laws. The first being the use of decimal places (2001 )instead of fraction. Years later and after they lobbied for the removal of the Up Tick rule ( 2007 ) the secret software was designed and in place ready to go into full operation now that Wall Street was allowed to naked short sell millions upon millions of shares that Goldman Sachs and other hedge funds didn’t even own and failed to deliver. Their greed took over, who wouldn’t , when Goldman Sachs was making over $100 million a day in trading. They destroyed companies like Sirius XM radio and overstock.com and many others. Then they began naked shorting the banking industry and attacking each other.
    This is the truth that the news media, corporate Amercia, the SEC, the Government, Goldman Sachs, Hank Paulson and the many others that were in power have not told the American people and the world. Now, as I write this letter, they are now trying to con the world into thinking it was insider trading that caused 95% of the middle class workers to lose 20% - 60 % of their investments and 401K’s.
    In the end the Entire story will be told and I hope I get my chance to tell it. Check the facts. There was an arrest of that Goldman Sachs employee in July 2009. Why was it covered up? Where are the arrests for Naked Short Selling and Goldman Sachs use of their secret software that stole the wealth off investors all across the country. It will go down as the biggest scandal in history.
    I give you permission to re-print this letter. Please follow up and investigate. This story needs to be told. Please contact me. It is exactly what is taken place.

    Richard Keane
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  • Ata
    requesting you to come over the article :-
    http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/nov/02/bcri ...

    Think common people can do something .... :)
  • viksra
    "In 2008, the company was said to have paid just $14 million in taxes worldwide, and paid $6 billion in 2007."

    That is supposed to say BILLION, NOT MILLION!!!!
  • Guest
    "In 2008, the company was said to have paid just $14 million in taxes worldwide, and paid $6 billion in 2007."

    That is supposed to say BILLION, NOT MILLION!!!!
  • Name
    Goldman were forced to take that 'bailout'. It has been mentioned many times that the bank didn't need the boost, however took it to show support for the plan. This bailout was paid back to the taxpower with a 23% premium - for every $1 you gave the company, they gave you $1.23 back. And yet people complain.
  • jedirock
    They have killed the goose that lay's the golden egg....
  • ak333
    Goldmans only distributes this to around like 1,000-1,500 people if I remember correctly. On average each employee gets over 3 mil, but that was in like 2006 or 2007 so I don't know how the numbers will play out here. I just wish I worked there!
  • In the Civil War they called them "Carpetbaggers"!
  • Chingo
    does anyone stop to think about the fact that these goldman employess pay taxes? they also make big purchases and drive aggregate demand. of course i may be asking too much from a raw story fail blog.
  • angelo
    ~wonders` not really up on economy issues, but with how much $ is being printed/being devalued, wouldn't it be a 'good' thing to have massive amounts in a few ppl's hands? (who wouldn't be using the $, so it wouldn't affect the prices negatively).
    I understand the cash for clunkers direction, but why is money being printed out faster than ever?
    bandaidsrcool on yahoo, for those who care to enlighten
  • rickpetes
    texanarch, thanks for the listings. Maybe there's a Timothy McViegh out there looking for a target, and this could help.


    Peter D, Your are a tool, an idiot or a banker. Or, all three. Goldman Sachs is a parasitic organization and deserves to be disbanded, and the employees removed to Vietnam to sew Nikes at slave wages.
  • Its naive to assume that Goldman have any other intention than making the maximum amount of profit at anyone else's expense. As the 21st century economic model rewires expect to see more of this.
  • Oh my! I am still reeling from reading this... haven't we learned anything yet?
  • Crazy888
    The Baghdad "Green Zone" lifestyle is coming to your town soon. A society is judged by how it treats it's weakest and most vulnerable members.......????How long before G20 style policing is required to protect these despotic megalomaniacs?
  • Peter D
    no wonder you dumb simpletons are poor and probably unemployed, GS returned their 10billion dollars in TARP money back in april. you all should know what's going on the world before opening your mouths

    "these are the people who caused the recession"

    they're also the people who built up this country into the richest and most powerful nation in the history of the world. this is free market capitalism at work, if you don't like it move to n korea.
  • Michael
    Goldman Rules!
    I've been working there for a number of years and no other firm even comes close.
    Thanks Uncle Sam for getting rid of all our competitors, wouldn't be planning my 5-star vacation or hosting one of my parties... http://www.thedeal.com/dealscape/2009/09/goldma...

    MONEY IS SWEET
  • mark223
    Good for them for being successful.
  • aardvark
    It about time to declare the US dollar worthless. If you are just pushing dollars around a financial system to create more dollars, you aren't contributing to society. You aren't producing or serving, you are only gaming the system. The only way producers, innovators, creators, builders, and all other working people can ever recover from the mess these self-proclaimed elitist have created is to quit exchanging our time and labor for worthless dollars.
  • darker
    BANKSTERS need to continue ROBBING AMERICAN WORKERS so
    the rich can stay rich and get richer while FIRING--YOU!
  • Alex
    These are the same people who started the New Great Depression. Obama needs to step in right now and cut them short. Take all that money and pay it on the defecate. Hey Osama, I've got a new target for you. LOL
  • How can I join the firm?
  • David V
    The anger over bonuses is a red herring.

    In a free market, bonuses are a common way of rewarding performance. There is nothing wrong with the idea of paying people for success. From the perspective of the balance sheets of the bailed out companies, the bonuses are well deserved, given that these companies are getting billions of dollars for "free."

    The problem is that the money these companies are getting was stolen from dollar users (not just taxpayers, since the debt is being paid by printing new currency), and is keeping unproductive, financially irresponsible companies afloat. By virtue of being bankrupt in the first place, these companies have demonstrated that they are consuming more resources than they are creating - and ought to be bankrupt.

    What we should really be angry about is that the political class is punishing success and rewarding failure by taking money from productive people and businesses and giving it to unproductive ones.
  • deen68
    Was that profit calculated before or after the stimulus money? Personally, I think they should have to repay all the stimulus money before they can count anything as profit. And, I am sure the people they laid off will be happy to hear this news.
  • Sonny
    By listening to AmericanFamilyRadio.org, I have recently learned that the little baby Jesus loves and in fact endorses the American free enterprise system. And the reason the Wall Street guys make so much money is because they are expecially blessed by the little baby Jesus. Were they not so blessed, they would not make so much. Who cannot taste the sweetness of this tautology? I am left to wonder why the little baby Jesus has a stick up his ass for the other 99% of us.
  • Bravo. Awesome comment.
  • damixaustex
    OMG, It's enough to buy a latte for every man woman and child on the planet (at about US$3.50 each) or...
    buy all ten of the worlds most expensive yachts, PLUS a couple of decent sized estates to sail back and forth from.

    Or...
    enough to fund Doctors Without Borders(Medicins sans Frontieres) globally for about 25 years.
  • Praxis
    TAXED AT 1 PERCENT?!?!

    I'm very capitalist and liberal, but if you're giving out bonus as big as GDP of entire countries you're not paying your fair share in taxes.

    Reform corporate taxes now. Goldman Sachs has the most brilliant idiots ever. Why would you do something like this when the entire country is suffering in a Great Recession?
  • voreason
    Goldman-Sachs enjoys a reputation as an indispensable engine of the US economy, deftly lubricating transactions essential to the operation of financial markets and thus formation, operation and expansion of businesses large and small. The news media sing its praises regularly. In actual fact, Goldman-Sachs has become a parasitic enterprise, skimming billions from the capital of others and doing so for the benefit of a tiny privileged elite.

    It is obviously time to put a stop to this. But you have to ask yourself, where is the political will? It has been bought by G-S and other major players. It appears that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are likely to do anything about the stranglehold G-S has on governance.

    The question I have to ask is whether there really is much of a difference between the kind of influence G-S and other corporations have in the US and the influence the drug traffickers in Mexico have over the military and civil authorities there.

    Has it come to this? Our country is in the grasp of a gigantic criminal corporate enterprise and our government is a corrupt and willing accomplice.
  • michaelmcleary
    Justice dept needs to investigate and indict Goldman Sachs executives for defrauding the government and taxpayers! I want to see criminal trials, unless all bailout money is returned within a year! This is the biggest White Collar Crime in U.S. History! Now treat it like a crime.
  • no_bullshit
    While every middle class "liberal" or "conservative" bitches at each other about health care and race issues, these crooks have stolen trillions of taxpayer dollars and given themselves billions in bonuses. Where's the savior Obama? Oh, I forgot, he got the majority of his campaign money from these same crooks. Where's the Congress? Oh, same story. Quit bitching and vote third party or keep watching your country go down the toilet while these crooks legally steal our future.
  • davidrvelasquez
    Why did these greedy bastards ever get bailed out? ...should've let them fail whatever the consequences.
  • caroldw
    I taking our money and putting in their pockets. That is stealing and considerd a crime in every civilized nation. The only reason they aren't being prosecuted is the Obama and Geithner are protecting them.
  • kevindo
    How can this be happening? Didn't we bail them out of debt? Are these people worth that much? If they didn't get the money where would they go? It isn't like there are jobs in this industry (and Lord knows no other industry) for them to go to..... we got duped again!!
  • dporteraustin
    Seriously? WTF! I'm all for capitalism and rewarding good, hard work. But these idiots nearly brought down the world economy. Who in their right mind believes that these people are exemplary?
  • alfredo
    Capitalism, capitalism, capitalism. I% owns 95% of all assets and the bottom 99% owns 5%. What a love story!
  • johnhkennedy
    Truly disgusting. The only thing we can do about is keep up the pressure on Obama and our Democratic Congress to do the right thing.


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  • dorkparticle
    'Vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity', raping, pillaging and crashing the global economy, socializing risk and loss, privatizing benefit and gain. The entire board and executive management of GS and the other corporate welfare queens should be prosecuted for economic crimes against humanity. These companies are a parasite and a cancer, and should be seized and put out of business before they destroy any more lives, causes any more harm to society.
    http:www.goldmansachs666.com

    Abolish the Fed. Don't vote for Democrats or Republicans.
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