Conservative Democrats signal they won’t block public option

By John Byrne
Friday, October 23rd, 2009 -- 8:07 am
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capitol Conservative Democrats signal they wont block public optionUPDATE: A Huffington Post report Friday indicates that Democrats believe they are one or two votes shy of having a filibuster-proof majority to pass a public health insurance option.

More here. The names of those who aren't on board for a filibuster is unknown, but at least one senator's office -- that of Florida Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL), wouldn't say how the senator will vote.

Support for including some version of a public option in the Senate's version of a healthcare overhaul appears to be solider than initially believed.

In a series of comments that have received little attention, conservative Democratic senators -- even those who've publicly said they oppose a public option -- say they are unlikely to join a Republican filibuster to block it. Under Senate rules, Democrats would need to convince 60 members to support the ability to vote on healthcare legislation with the public option (cloture), and then just 51 to pass it.

Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) told a reporter earlier this week that she wouldn't join Republicans in voting against cloture.

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"I'm not right now inclined to support any filibuster," Landrieu said.

"For the Republican Party to kind of step out of the game is very unfortunate," she added, referring to the Senate Republicans' intransigence on healthcare reform proposals. "I'm not going to be joining people that don't want progress."

Indeed, Landrieu's sentiment -- that joining foes of healthcare reform would be an impediment to progress -- may be the catnip that keeps Democrats on board.

Sen. Mark Pryor (R-AR), a moderate Democrat from the South, said Thursday he was open to some form of a government-run health insurance competitor.

"It depends on how it's structured on whether I can support it," Pryor remarked. "I just haven't decided."

But regardless of how he votes on the final package, he says he won't join Republicans in filibustering the bill. Tellingly, he also signaled that he didn't believe any other Democrats would either.

"I don't think you'll see me or any other Democrats do that," Pryor told liberal blogger Mike Stark.

One conservative Democrat refused to tip his hand. Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) occasionally joins Republicans on controversial issues.

"I believe in playing chess, but that's about three moves ahead of me, and I'm not prepared to make those moves until I see some other moves in between," Nelson told a reporter this week.

Jake Thompson, Nelson's Communications Director, told Raw Story  that he "would decline to comment" about how Nelson will react to a potential Republican filibuster.

Arlen Specter (D-PA) has said he'll support a public option as well. Specter defected from the Republican Party to the Democrats earlier this year, against the backdrop of a tough primary challenge from his right. In an interview Thursday evening with MSNBC's Ed Schultz (video below), he sounded confident that Democrats had the 60 votes to prevail.

"We have 60 votes without Sen. Snowe, so we can still invoke cloture and move to a vote on the public option," Specter said. "With 50 votes plus the Vice President and my vote is going to be for the public option, robust public option, we can get it passed, even without Sen. Snowe. I hope we have her, but we may be able to do it without her."

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) was the only Republican to join ranks with Democrats in approving a version of healthcare legislation that passed through the Senate Finance Committee. That version didn't include a public option.

That said, Democrats need lose only one member to lose the battle for the public option. A 60-vote majority would also need to include independent Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who's tangled with Democrats on various issues in the past.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) won't say how many votes he has in his arsenal on a government run plan. In a statement Thursday evening, he said only that he was looking to pass a bill with as many votes as possible.

"We'll continue to work together to seek broad consensus on the key issues before us and to craft the strongest possible bill that can garner 60 votes," Reid said. "We will also continue to do our best to represent the views of all members of the Senate who have a genuine desire to see reform succeed. But our mission is clear: the American people want quality, affordable health insurance and failure is not an acceptable option. I am optimistic that we are close to laying a proposal before the full Senate that will do just that."

In the House, some version of a public option is almost certain to pass. The version will likely be more liberal than that of the Senate's, as Democrats hold a larger majority in the lower chamber.

President Obama's position on the public option remains unclear. A Politico report Friday said that Obama prefers a "trigger option," under which a public insurer would only be created if private insurers fail to meet key pricing standards. The White House, however, says Obama hasn't taken a position either way.

The following video is from MSNBC's The Ed Show, broadcast Oct. 22, 2009.

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  • DownriverDem
    This is unique to the Senate. Dems (Repubs do it too) vote with the leaders when it comes to procedural votes (block filibuster), but are free to vote against the bill when it gets to the floor.

    I don't trust Lieberman. He was seen on tv saying he is against the public option. He sure is a Repub on most issues.
  • lorn
    Oh really?

    How about when a vote on a particular issue is crucially vitally important to party bosses, they always get the members to tow the line.

    Stimulus, corporate welfare for Americas biggest fat cats? Team! Team! Team Democrat votes to transfer the peoples money to corporate welfare bums.
    Obama budget with trillions in pork, precious little for green energy? 100% of Democrats in the Senate voted for it as Rahm Emanuel and the holy man himself got out and drove the process.
    War funding bills? Again the Democrats were whipped, kissed, screwed blued and tattooed, bribed and beat into supporting it.
    Why? Because party bosses wanted it.

    Now on health care for the people we get this grand theatrical display of Democrats showing their fierce independence, that democracy lives in the party and so on. It is all a ruse to fool the people. Trusted progressive media who repeat and amplify this huge lie are despicable.
  • adamfromtampa
    "Sen. Mark Pryor (R-AR), a moderate Democrat from the South, said Thursday he was open to some form of a government-run health insurance competitor."

    Do you people even proofread what comes spewing out of this rag? What a joke.
  • Savantster
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    So, then, of course, you have the same disdain for FOX which regularly puts the wrong party on Reps when Republicans are caught in a scandal.. and occasionally put's an R behind a Dem who does something pretty good?
  • southernfriedlibrul
    You seem to have (intentionally) missed the fact that Pryor was clearly identified as "a moderate Democrat from the South," despite the typo. This isn't the same as Faux "News" misidentifying politicians when it suits them, without ever bothering to correct themselves or clarify the mistake.
  • southernfriedlibrul
    Sorry, Savantster...that reply was meant for adamfromtampa, not you.
  • lousgirl84
    More than we believe what comes out of your rag mouth
  • Politico says they don't have the votes.
  • lousgirl84
    And Politico is a reliable source. They have had to retract more stories than any "news" website I know. It should be called Republican Mouthpiece.
  • Savantster
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    I was against the "Nuclear Option" of removing the filibuster when the threat was because they wanted to fund war and murdering innocents... but if the debate is now that we will forever need 60 votes just to get a vote? If the party of NO is going to use this tactic on just about anything meaningful to the public? Then perhaps it's time we take away the big toys from the little kids. Republicans have become a disgrace to American Politics and the two party system has completely failed when 59% of the Senate are "D's" but still can't get a vote on a bill (and the bill has been watered down to the point of near useless).

    We should only be seeing a filibuster on things like going to war, disbanding the army, legalizing murder if you make over $500,000/yr, or some other _really_ serious thing. Creating a new public service that helps the public shouldn't be in the scopes of a filibuster. Seriously.. what's the worst that could happen? Some people lose a little of their profits? While we save a lot of lives and bring a lot of peace of mind to many many Americans? THAT is what the right-wing wants to prevent? and have SAID as much on the floor?

    If your political motivation is the profits of the few over the lives and security of hundreds of millions of Americans, then you have no business in Government, nor do you have the sense to properly use a filibuster. I say, vote it away.
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  • jimgoodson
    Hey Ed. These so-called politicians are heading toward their own demise. Playing games with the American people will cause a revolt on both sides of the debate.The constitution does not recognise partys or favoritism. All Politicians heads are on the chopping block at election time. The garbage in the news will have no effect on how people vote. People will vote their pocket-book, and only their pocketbook. Healthcare reform or Political reform. That is the Question?
  • anarchisto
    Solider?
  • anarchisto
    The fascists Republicans are out and the socialist Democrats are in.
    It's high time the American government did something right for a change and the public option is it. This is the only measure the US government can take that will restore one iota of trust with the American people, many who belive they live in some Orwellian nightmare.
    Once that is done it paves the way for more globalist plans of cap and trade, global currency and super state.
  • skatay
    "solider"??? how aboout "more solid"
  • FloriDUH
    Just called Senator Nelson's Davie, FL Office which is 2.5 miles from my house. Explained to the staff member that I live that distance from his office, gave my address and telephone number. Then explained to the staffer that I have contributed, worked for his campaigns, and most importantly voted for him in the past. I had also explained that I had previously served as an elected local public office. I asked her to share with the senator that if he fails to get this health care reform bill with a public option passed in the US Senate, that I will work day and night for a primary opponent against him when and if he seeks reelection, and will get everyone I know to vote for his opponent.
  • donofcali
    Don't water the bill down to a piece of shit for the sake of 60 votes you assholes!
  • Name
    Politicians who betray the American people & support this ObamaCare plan will pay with their jobs in 2010 or later... We don't want this and polls indicate that no bill is better than this proposed HC. Try opening the states up to all insurance companies for real competition & bucking the ambulance chasing trial lawyers by limiting lawsuits, along with subsidies to lower income individuals . That's much better that putting the Post Office or Amtrac in charge of HC for the American people.......Statist solutions haven't worked anywhere!
  • TechiePatriot
    Time to get rid of ALL the treasonist people in congress! Congress has NO constitutional power to d owhat they are doing. Remember all it takes is the states passing 10th amendment resolutions to give the feds a big fat middle finger! Many already have and there are more coming. The majority of the people in the U.S. are sick and tired of this government corruption!
  • DoItNow
    Time to get rid of ALL the treasonist people in congress! Congress has NO constitutional power to d owhat they are doing. Remember all it takes is the states passing 10th amendment resolutions to give the feds a big fat middle finger! Many already have and there are more coming. The majority of the people in the U.S. are sick and tired of this government corruption!
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