Senate committee approves health overhaul bill

By The Associated Press
Tuesday, October 13th, 2009 -- 7:16 am
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baucus Senate committee approves health overhaul billUpdate: Senate Finance Committee passes health care reform bill 14-9

A pivotal Senate committee has approved a sweeping remake of the country's health care system, delivering a long-sought boost to President Barack Obama's goal of expanding coverage.

The 14-9 vote in the Senate Finance Committee sets up a historic debate on the Senate floor and moves health care overhaul closer to reality than it has been for decades.

Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine was the only Republican to join 13 committee Democrats in voting "yes."

The 10-year, $829-billion plan approved Tuesday is aimed at extending coverage to millions more Americans, holding down costs and improving health care for all.

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The Finance Committee was the last of five congressional committees to act. It produced a centrist-leaning compromise bill.

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WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's plan to remake the nation's health care system is about to take its biggest step yet toward becoming reality.

The pivotal Senate Finance Committee was poised to approve sweeping legislation Tuesday requiring nearly all Americans to purchase insurance and ushering in a host of other changes to the nation's $2.5 trillion medical system.

Much work would lie ahead before a bill could arrive on Obama's desk, but action by the Finance Committee would mark a significant advance, capping numerous delays as Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., held marathon negotiating sessions — ultimately unsuccessful — aimed at producing a bipartisan bill.

Four other congressional committees acted before August to pass health legislation, so for months all eyes have been on the Finance Committee, the remaining one. It's also the panel whose moderate makeup most closely resembles the Senate as a whole. And the committee's centrist legislation is seen as the best building block for a compromise plan that could find favor on the Senate floor.

With Democrats holding a 13-10 majority on the committee the outcome of Tuesday's vote is not in doubt. The big question mark is whether moderate Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine will become the first Republican to support a health overhaul bill. The legislation that passed the other House and Senate committees did so without a single Republican vote. On Monday, Snowe still wasn't saying.

With Finance Committee passage, Obama's top domestic priority will have advanced farther than former President Bill Clinton's effort ever did. The Clinton health plan never made it through all the congressional committees with jurisdiction.

The final days before Tuesday's long-anticipated vote were rocky. After playing nice for months, the health insurance industry released a report contending that the legislation would cause hefty increases in health insurance premiums.

Democrats and their allies scrambled Monday to knock it down. "Distorted and flawed," said White House spokeswoman Linda Douglass. AARP's senior policy strategist, John Rother, called it "fundamentally dishonest."

PricewaterhouseCoopers, the accounting firm that did the industry-commissioned analysis, issued a statement late Monday acknowledging it did not look at the entirety of the legislation, only the effects of four provisions that the insurance group wanted analyzed.

The drama threatened to overshadow the vote on the 10-year, $829-billion plan that Baucus has touted as the sensible solution to America's problems of high medical costs and too many uninsured.

The bill includes consumer protections such as limits on copays and deductibles and relies on federal subsidies to help lower-income families purchase coverage. Insurance companies would have to take all comers, and people could shop for insurance within new state marketplaces called exchanges.

Medicaid would be expanded, and though employers wouldn't be required to cover their workers, they'd have to pay a penalty for each employee who sought insurance with government subsidies. The bill is paid for by cuts to Medicare providers and new taxes on insurance companies and others.

Unlike the other health care bills in Congress, Baucus' would not allow the government to sell insurance in competition with private companies, a divisive element sought by liberals.

Last-minute changes made subsidies more generous and softened the penalties for those who don't comply with a proposed new mandate for everyone to buy insurance. The latter change drew the ire of the health insurance industry, which said that without a strong and enforceable requirement not enough people would get insured, and premiums would jump for everyone else.

The industry report was timed just ahead of the vote on Baucus' bill but the industry was already looking ahead to negotiations on a final package to bring to the Senate floor.

Once the Finance Committee has acted, the dealmaking can begin in earnest with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., working with White House staff, Baucus and others to blend the Finance bill with a more liberal version passed by the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

A major question mark is whether Reid will include some version of a so-called public plan in the merged bill. Across the Capitol, House Democratic leaders are working to finalize their bill, which does contain a public plan, and floor action is expected in both chambers in coming weeks. If passed, the legislation would then go to a conference committee to reconcile differences.

Snowe to vote for Democratic health care bill

Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe says she will vote for a Democratic health care bill, breaking with her party on President Barack Obama's top legislative priority.

The Maine senator kept virtually all of Washington guessing how she would vote until she announced it late in the Senate Finance Committee debate Tuesday. Until then, she told reporters, she had not even let Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in on her secret.

She told her colleagues: "When history calls, history calls," even though she had some criticism of the bill.

This video is from MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell Reports, broadcast Oct. 13, 2009.



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  • NancyFromWellington
    I am proud of Senator Olympia Snowe and all the senators who are choosing to help the American people over greedy insurance companies. The big insurance companies are already telling the American people that they will raise our rates so that they can continue to rack in the exorbitant profits over the health and lives of Americans. Competitive practices need to be put in place to keep fees low and Americans need to start looking outside of the big insurance companies for their insurance coverage. The best interest of the American people is first in this debate and again I thank all the senators who are doing that.
  • theoracle
    Three out of four Doctors recommend the Public Option.

    (Remember all the commercials that started "Three out of four doctors recommend..." or "Four our of five Dentists recommend..."? Well, three out of four Doctors DO recommend the Public Option, so why haven't some of these 75 percent of doctors run a commercial stating their support for the Public Option? We trust Doctors when they make a medical diagnosis and prescribe, often-lifesaving, treatment and medication, so why are 75 percent of U.S. Doctors suddenly NOT trusted when they diagnose that our current healthcare system is ill, injured, needs repairing, needs reform? Why?)
  • basher72
    The vote today doesn't mean it's over. Still got a long way to go.

    Olympia Snowe's vote today proves that inside every right-thinking Republican - is a Democrat trying to get out.
  • Frankinbun
    Would someone please pass me the K-Y!! Ow! Ow! Ow!
  • Jhoffa_
    This is so typical of politics today..

    NO ONE is happy.. Not the left, not the right.. Not those of us who combine aspects of both.

    Face it.. They don't work for ANY of us anymore.
  • ccvep
    Why doesn't Olympia Snowe become a Democrat? She's too smart to be a Republican.
  • jeffreyk2
    The city of San Francisco has universal health care and it works very well and folks are happy with it. (Called Healthy San Francisco) All the public health clinics, hospitals and other public health centers are access points. You pick a home from these and get a primary doctor. It works very well. Cost is a sliding scale from 0 to about 300 an month depending on income. I am hoping they expand it to the state level. A much better option than the feds are proposing.

    The docs and procedures are not running up health costs it is the middle men like HMO's and insurance company's. Eliminate them and you will reduce the cost... a lot.
  • marblex
    told you we would end up with a federal mandate to buy private insurance. Now those who cannot afford health insurance will be required to buy it anyway.

    Too bad we can't execute congress members for this treason against the American people.
  • miggy
    The same people who were anti labor prior to WWII are now positioned in control of the money, the oil, the drugs, the war machinery, and the food. Jobs, they shipped overseas, and now the homeless and poor will be slaves or the insurance companies will raise the rates for the rich. This is instead of the obvious choice of decreasing profit margins and gouging the public. This is precisely why the health care industries in Europe are closely held accountable by their Governments and as a result, Europeans have great health care.

    Obama should respond by "disappearing" insurance. If the Government took over insurance, it would solve many of the problems.

    Taxes on the many useful products from legal and regulated hemp industries would stop the black market and black ops money they use to control the Governments of the World with. It would make it difficult for children to obtain.

    New industries and manufacturing in the US instead of China would provide jobs for the masses and allow them to start their own. The pot prisoners could work for a living of their own rather than lining the pockets of corrupt politicians and businessmen.

    The health care problem is becoming the turning point in our Nation. Will we be free and maintain our leadership prosperity and giving to the World, or will we become slaves to the Corporate Cartel. Without our support, Obama does not have a chance against these Greedy Corporations and neither do we.
  • miggy
    70 % of prisoners are imprisoned for crimes involving marijuana. They are a source of cheap labor for Dick Cheney's prison management firm Vanguard and others. They are put there by a combination of abilities, including NORAD who now have chasing drug "crimes" as part of their responsibility. This is the same NORAD that was shut down during 9/11 while VP Cheney was in charge.

    The Insurance industry is threatening a high raise in insurance costs if everyone does not obtain now too high insurance. If you are healthy, you end up paying them for years while they use your money for investment in themselves. If you get sick, they deny payment. If you grow old, you are on medicare or medicaid. This is what happens to those with insurance. Those who cannot afford it, like the jobless, are imprisoned if they have no insurance, their freedom taken away. They become wards of the State and can be experimented on and used as slave labor.
    The insurance industry partners, the large pharmaceutical companies, churn out fake and falsified reports and conduct experiments on human beings to make people sick and support the industry. Information about the CIA MKULTRA programs, Operation Pheonix and many others are now available due to the Internet.

    The history of these and great nutritional information is well documented by the Health Ranger, Mike Adams and Natural News.

    Blatantly, the exact opposite of the truth about organic farming is being presented as fact by industry paid investigators and Dr.s. Their advertisments now support much of the media and dictate thereby or withdraw funds. Their lobbyists are the largest campaign contributors. That is how they spend the insurance money you pay...to control public opinion and Government itself.
    Naturally, all of this is being reported by the spin casting Washington Times, owned by the expert at double identity, Rev. Sun Myung Moon. A self proclaimed Messiah and "tireless worker for World Peace" is the way he is described, but he is really the mouthpiece and the bankroller for much of the Corporatist genocidal agenda. It is worthwhile to read Robert Parry's investigations into Moon's background, "The Dark Side of Reverend Moon".

    We are being herded off to slaughter in a jobless society.
  • bobgrimm
    So I see Snow White couldn't get the Seven Dwarf Repubs to Whistle While You Work.
  • donofcali
    The Baucus bill is just like Baucus: A worthless piece of shit.

    If a strong, triggerless, non-coop public option does not get added, and a bunch of other insurance industry giveaway bullshit changed, then this bill is Dead On Arrival. The ramifications of that are the dems slaughtered in the 2010 elections and Obama going down in history as a total loser and a bad memory in 2013.
  • christopher92
    Moyers said former government officials now lobbyists are part of the problem.
    Baucus working side by side with corps?

    " the industry was already looking ahead to negotiations on a final package to bring to the Senate floor."

    The Industry should be "heard" but negotiate the final package? I thought the dems and reps did the negotiating?
  • miggy
    No Regulation of a God Given ( Insert Spiritual God) Inalienable Right is going to change the discourse. That is if you take the Bill of Rights and US. Constitution seriously. Which, of the last Nine years we haven’t.

    On a broader perspective, the political process is broken. Both Houses are brought and paid for with Corporate Money. It basically buys and makes our Laws nowadays. You don’t have to look any further than The Patriot Act, Military Comm. Act and John Warner Defense Act to realize that Perpetual War under a Unilateral Executive plus War Profiteering from our Tax Dollars with a out of control Fed. Reserve equals disaster.

    HealthCare, is The Globalists/Elites last bubble. The Pubic Option is their Defeat. And they know it.
  • miggy
    Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score's the baucus plan at $829 Billion over a 10 year period, that is paid for. The CBO also states that it will lower the deficit by $80 Billion and it would be much lower if there was a public option.

    Criminally corrupt politicians are the reason the U.S. is ranked near the bottom of every catagory when ranked next to other modern, industrialized nations. Time for publically funded elections.

    lieberman $12.6M, mcconnell $7.8M, baucus $7.7M, cornyn $6.7M, kyl $5.6M, grassley $5.4M, ensign $5.2M, conrad $5.1M, cantor $4.9M, nelson $4.9M, burr $4.8M, boehner $4.4M, hatch $4.4M, lincoln $4.1M, vitter $3.9M, carper $3.6M were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform. (Source: OpenSecrets.org, Aug. 09)

    Follow the Money: http://hmc-lavadogs.livejournal.com/20128.html

    Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!(Toll Free # House and Senate)

    1-866-338-1015 _____ 1-866-220-0044
    1-800-473-6711 _____ 1-866-311-3405

    Sign Single-Payer Petitions: http://www.singlepayeraction.org/join.html

    http://www.americacantwait.com/TrueMajority

    Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo.
  • miggy
    Here's a list of a few of our worthless, wealthy, and greedy senators who received corporate money from the health insurance lobbyist(opensecrets.org). Twelve listed are on the Senate Finance Committee and "earned" $9.5 million between them from the health insurance industry.

    McCain, John (R-AZ) $2,894,353
    Dodd, Chris (D-CT) $2,266,596
    Kerry, John (D-MA) $1,396,617
    Santorum, Rick (R-PA) $1,267,850
    Nelson, Ben (D-NE) $1,247,299
    Baucus, Max (D-MT) $1,196,463
    Schumer, Charles E (D-NY) $1,097,700
    Specter, Arlen (D-PA) $1,057,655
    Lieberman, Joe (I-CT) $1,033,402
    Grassley, Chuck (R-IA) $948,024
    McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) $943,507
    DeWine, Mike (R-OH) $923,163
    Gramm, Phil (R-TX) $872,599
    D'Amato, Alfonse M (R-NY) $858,693
    Dole, Bob (R) $847,661
    Conrad, Kent (D-ND) $838,787
    Bunning, Jim (R-KY) $794,999
    Sununu, John E (R-NH) $759,629
    Coleman, Norm (R-MN) $716,195
    Smith, Gordon H (R-OR) $711,585
    Shelby, Richard C (R-AL) $684,848
    Hatch, Orrin G (R-UT) $672,557
    Bond, Christopher "Kit" (R-MO) $644,571
    Cardin, Ben (D-MD) $642,927
    Chambliss, Saxby (R-GA) $642,466
    Ensign, John (R-NV) $629,466
    Hutchison, Kay Bailey (R-TX) $618,200
    Bayh, Evan (D-IN) $610,952
    Bradley, Bill (D-NJ) $596,868
    Dole, Elizabeth (R-NC) $595,201
    Talent, James M (R-MO) $589,036
    Daschle, Tom (D-SD) $587,123
    Cornyn, John (R-TX) $566,178
    Voinovich, George V (R-OH) $552,896
    Nelson, Bill (D-FL) $544,746
    Sessions, Jeff (R-AL) $539,527
    Kyl, Jon (R-AZ) $536,044
    Johnson, Tim (D-SD) $513,643
    Lincoln, Blanche (D-AR) $504,383
    Alexander, Lamar (R-TN) $501,650
  • jimbo701
    "The bill includes consumer protections such as limits on copays and deductibles and relies on federal subsidies to help lower-income families purchase coverage"

    So instead of our tax dollars being used directly by the federal government to provide a public option they are indirectly going to private insurers via subsidy payments to people who can't wouldn't normally be able to afford private insurance. If setting up a public option is considered socialized medicine because tax dollars are paying for it, how is providing tax dollars to private insurers via subsidies to the poor any different?? What we are left with are mandatory federal payments on behalf of the poor to bloated, fat, overpriced private health insurance companies who can't survive in a genuine competitive market.The result of this will be to further entrench private ensurers in the halls of congress as the fortunes of those companies fortunes get tied closely to campaign payments to individual congressmen. How can this be considered reform?? This is a disaster.
  • an84u
    I think the shithead RePUKEliCUNTs have once again shot themselves in the proverbial foot by failing all the citizens of the US in trying to deny health care to the people. The GOP of late has lost all semblence of pride in their ancestry and is w/o hope for its posterity...I think that defines bastards doesn't it?
  • TakeOurCountryBack
    If Snowjob likes it ........It must certainly favor the Healthcare industry machine!
  • namerequierd
    Then it must be a bad bill that hurts individuals and helps insurance companies.
  • trippin
    Oh I forgot to mention: we need to let Reid know that anyone calling themselves a Democrat who votes against cloture on a bill with a public option in it will be stipped of all their committee assignments, leadership positions, and perquisites: hookers and all. No more flying on military planes, no more cashing checks, no more nothing.

    And we need to let Obama know that if Reid won't do that, we expect him as party leader to exert pressure to REMOVE HIS FROM HIS LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THE SENATE.

    This kumbaya shit is OVER. Time to kick some right wing ass.
  • trippin
    This is a fucking media Snowe job.

    1) One vote does not make a bi-partisan bill

    2) Trumping it up as such makes it sound like we have something to lose if we lose her support

    3) We will lose her support when the final bill has a public optiion in it

    4) No bill ever worth a shit for the common man had bi-partisan support, from Social Security to civil rights.

    We must not let the media who are in the tank for the health insurance industry sell us a bill of goods on this one. This is the same media that calls the public option a desire of the "left" to marginalize it. This is the same media that never reports that two thirds to three fourths of Americans support a public option, and never squares that against their claim it's a left-wing push.

    They're all going gaa-gaa over this non-event. Why? It's obvious. Already MSNBC is saying the final bill now probably won't have a public option in it. Why? So we don't piss off Snowe? Fuck Snowe!

    WE DEMAND A PUBLIC OPTION. Do not be distracted by nonsense. The Senate Finance Bill will look NOTHING like the bill for final passage.
  • kucinich2012
    "WE DEMAND A PUBLIC OPTION."

    How about: WE DEMAND SINGLE-PAYER!!!
  • davidrvelasquez
    "Baucus' would not allow the government to sell insurance in competition with private companies"??? .......... fuck that industry whore, Baucus!

    If reform doesn't include a public option then it needs to be sunk until we can get one that does!
    I think the public is finally behind us on this one.
  • johnhkennedy
    Holding my breath!

    Remember, We Must push them if
    we want them to do our bidding.


    SIGN THE PETITION
    Calling For Torture Prosecutions from the Top Down AT

    ANGRYVOTERS.ORG/nll/

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  • churchgoer
    I am an American living in Canada. It's embarassing how many "proud" Americans are trying to take advantage of the Canadian health system. It is a problem for every province across Canada. Almost 10 years ago, New Brunswick where I live had to put out new Health cards because they were catching people coming across mainly to see a General Practitioner but one fellow came for a false leg. In some cases, I'm sure the doctors looked the other way because it was a desperate situation often involving children who just needed a prescription. The way it works is the mother or whoever would often borrow the health card of a relative.
    Sadly, New Brunswick is a poor province and couldn't afford to keep paying Americans bills.
    Now I'm told that Mexico is having the same problem with people going to stay in Mexico to get health coverage.
    Isn't it about time that the US takes care of its own sick people?
  • crashmodem
    The Baucus Bill is a sham, and everyone knows it. Every special interest group has made sure that its' own constituency is covered, public be damned. This debate should have started with Single Payer, and if a compromise needed to be made, THEN go to the public option. Depublicans were going to holler and scream about socialized medicine and a government takeover of healthcare either way, so we should have given them a real takeover to start the bidding.

    Apparently Grayson was wrong- President Snowe just announced she will support the sham.
  • miggy
    "The insurance corporations are 100% right. If regulations force them to actually provide coverage and prevent them from kicking people off from the rolls once they get sick, then the insurance corporations most certainly WILL have to raise premiums in order to gather in the kind of profits that Wall Street investors and CEOs expect.

    "Why are we trying to argue that their analysis is "flawed"? The only flaw is continuing to pretend that somebody should be able to make a profit for standing between patients and their doctors.

    Progressive don't help anybody, least of all uninsured people, when they make the ridiculous argument that everybody can be covered without destroying the federal budget and that the health insurance industry can still make a profit. Health insurance profits and fiscally responsible, morally just coverage for all Americans are completely incompatible. When the health insurance industry starts making this argument, instead of trying to disingenously counter it, we should affirm it. Damn right. There is no room for their profit in a health care system that covers all of us.

    This study by the health insurance industry is really a great argument in favor of single payer. The privateers are pulling out the rope to hang themselves with. Instead of begging them to put that rope away, we need to take it out of their hands and finish the job. Hang the bastards high"!

    Briggs Seekins
    briggsseekins.wordpress.com
  • miggy
    Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score's the baucus plan at $829 Billion over a 10 year period, that is paid for. The CBO also states that it will lower the deficit by $80 Billion and it would be much lower if there was a public option.

    Criminally corrupt politicians are the reason the U.S. is ranked near the bottom of every catagory when ranked next to other modern, industrialized nations. Time for publically funded elections.

    lieberman $12.6M, mcconnell $7.8M, baucus $7.7M, cornyn $6.7M, kyl $5.6M, grassley $5.4M, ensign $5.2M, conrad $5.1M, cantor $4.9M, nelson $4.9M, burr $4.8M, boehner $4.4M, hatch $4.4M, lincoln $4.1M, vitter $3.9M, carper $3.6M were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform. (Source: OpenSecrets.org, Aug. 09)

    Follow the Money: http://hmc-lavadogs.livejournal.com/20128.html

    Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!(Toll Free # House and Senate)
    1-866-338-1015 _____ 1-866-220-0044
    1-800-473-6711 _____ 1-866-311-3405

    Sign Single-Payer Petitions: http://www.singlepayeraction.org/join.html http://www.americacantwait.com/TrueMajority

    Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.SEMPER FI!
  • Name
    Centrist or gutless? Their bill as it stands will do little to improve the current status quo. It'll be like RomneyCare in Massachusetts where the insurance companies rule the roost and everybody pays through the nose for over-priced under-serving policies that cost more and more so the insurance companies can post profits for Wall Street and huge bonuses for their management. It'll be much the same as the Bush prescription drug bill for seniors, where the drug prices are the highest in the world but the government pays out half of the bill through our taxes. Which will have to be raised or borrowed from the Chinese- like we've done so far. But don't dare go down that single payer path which costs countries half as much as we spend and everyone gets covered because it's socialist- boo! Of course so is our interstate road system and many other great things that weren't working out well by private initiative.
  • jimbo701
    All this bill does is redirect the flow of tax dollars. Under a public option the money would go from the government to the people to the doctors. Under this "reform" the money flows from the government to the people to the private insurers to the doctors AND there is a penalty attached to no obtaining insurance. This plan simply enriches an unnecessary and useless middle man (the private insurers) at the expense of the people. May anyone who votes for this travesty go straight to hell.
  • pitbullstew
    I am 59, I dont have insurance, there are few times in my life that I ever had it, when I did and I needed it? The insurnace companies were not my friend?
    I give a rip for the insurnace companies they will price them selves out of the market place and that will be just fine with me.
  • Independentgal
    They will price themselves out of the market if -- and only if -- there is honest competition that they're forced to deal with. That's why we need the public option.
  • brain1
    The Public Option is the only way this will be a Success.There are so many sick Children, and Adults that need Medical Care.
    Just keep hoping that this will become reality!!!!
  • damixaustex
    If the insurance industry really thought rates were going to rise 18% above an expected rise, would they sound an alarm? I think not. That would be a win for them, so they'd stay quiet about it and say "we've changed our mind, we support reform."
  • Jhoffa_
    Heads they win, tails we lose..

    Yaaaaa! Go Health Care "Reform"
  • douvie
    This brainchild of the healthcare industry will pass. The Administration will claim a huge victory and ordinary Americans will once again get the fucking of their little lives.
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