Arianna Huffington to Joe Biden: resign over Afghanistan

By David Edwards and John Byrne
Thursday, October 15th, 2009 -- 8:03 am
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arianna huffington Arianna Huffington to Joe Biden: resign over AfghanistanA stunning editorial by liberal heavyweight Arianna Huffington is calling on Vice President Joe Biden to resign. Huffington, who made the comments in her column on The Huffington Post, repeated the remarks in an interview late Wednesday with CNN.

The eponymous leader of the Huffington Post website said she believed Biden should resign because of his opposition to increasing the number of US forces in Afghanistan, an opposition position she supports.

"Right now, the president is about to make up his mind and I'm told by my own sources and I'm sure that you are being told by yours that a decision is going to be the president will split the difference" between a request from Gen. Stanley McChrystal for added US troops in Afghanistan and those who oppose more troops, Huffington said on CNN. "He is not going to give Gen. McChrystal the 40,000 troops that he's asked for, but he's not going to give him nothing and that is the moment for Vice President Biden to resign. That is the moment when he can have a real impact on the president's decision."

"We have seen historically, over Vietnam, over Iraq, how many great leaders, including Colin Powell, did not do the right thing at the moment when it could have made a difference," Huffington continued. "This is another critical moment. This is a moment when actually many forces across the political spectrum are coming together to oppose escalation in afghanistan, ranging from George Will and Rachel House, the head of the Council on Foreign Relations and [former GOP Sen.] Chuck Hagel. This is not a right versus left issue, this is the moment for real leadership and there's nothing more novel than resigning over a matter of national security."

In her editorial, Huffington writes:

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Being Greek, I'm partial to Biden's classic use of the Socratic method -- skillfully eliciting facts in a way that lets people connect the dots that show how misguided our involvement in Afghanistan has become.

It's been known for a while that Biden has been on the other side of McChrystal's desire for a big escalation of our forces there -- the New York Times reported last month that he has "deep reservations" about it. So if the president does decide to escalate, Biden, for the good of the country, should escalate his willingness to act on those reservations.

What he must not do is follow the same weak and worn-out pattern of "opposition" we've become all-too-accustomed to, first with Vietnam and then with Iraq. You know the drill: after the dust settles, and the country begins to look back and not-so-charitably wonder, "what were they thinking?" the mea-culpa-laden books start to come out. On page after regret-filled page, we suddenly hear how forceful this or that official was behind closed doors, arguing against the war, taking a principled stand, expressing "strong concern" and, yes, "deep reservations" to the president, and then going home each night distraught at the unnecessary loss of life.

Well, how about making the mea culpa unnecessary? Instead of saving it for the book, how about future author Biden unfetter his conscience in real time -- when it can actually do some good? If Biden truly believes that what we're doing in Afghanistan is not in the best interests of our national security -- and what issue is more important than that? -- it's simply not enough to claim retroactive righteousness in his memoirs.
Though it would be a crowning moment in a distinguished career, such an act of courage would likely be only the beginning. Biden would then become the natural leader of the movement to wind down this disastrous war and focus on the real dangers in Pakistan.

Huffington's full column can be read here.

This video is from CNN's The Situation Room, broadcast Oct. 14, 2009.



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  • RaptureOrTribulation
    If Joe Biden resigns as vice-president of the United States, that will give the powerful global bankers the ability to appoint a new vice-president thru their puppet President Barrack Obama. This could be the beginning of the end. The anti-christ could be appointed as vice-president and then somehow Obama will be removed from office by power such as impeachment, resignation or asssasination. Interesting how this all could play out yet. Satan has his followers ready every step of the way for GOD's decision and time for the rapture of the church and the start of the "70th week of Daniel". With war in Israel very close, the time seems more and more likely to be right at the doorstep! Accept Jesus Christ as your saviour and repent your sins and you too will have eternal life in GOD's world!
  • no_bullshit
    according to this elitist hag, its ok for Israel to bomb civilians in Iran though. raw story wont publish this comment because they suck
  • tvfreezone
    Agreed. Biden should do something that would aid and abet the US. Resign his cush job in protest. Right!
  • tvfreezone
    Agreed. Biden should give up his cush job and do something meaningful for the country.
  • overdoneputaforkinit
    I don't think most of the posters here comprehend what Arianna is saying to Joe Biden, which is,

    EITHER STAND BY YOUR CONVICTIONS OR GET OUT.
  • lorn
    What is the point of commenting here if such heavy handed censorship is the new normal?
    I suppose if I try to restate what was censored, it will happen again.

    Trying to link Obama with Bush and to state that Democrats and Republicans are the same bunch of lying criminals seems to offend the rawstory gatekeepers.
  • My3Cats
    This rich socialite is all about telling other people what they should do. I remember back in the day when AH was all about Newtie Gingrich. Now she's a liberal. She follows the crowd ... and the money.
  • Tennessee Chris
    why is this same article posted on INFOWARS.COM as: " “Liberal” Huffington Wants More Troops Sent Into Afghanistan Meatgrinder"?... Somebody has altered the title of your work to put a totally false slant on the story..... I'd be raising hell if I were you guys.. they're makin yall look like jerks.
  • radii
    I used to like Arianna but her refusal to allow anything other than the zionist line on HuffPost shows her to be a sellout. No coverage of Gaza war crimes by israel - as the saying goes, HuffPost is PEP, progressive except for Palestine ... she seems to be a wholly owned subsidiary of israel
  • strategery
    I understand what she's saying, but if Biden resigned then a PRO-war person would replace him I'm guessing. I think it all depends on the real goal whether it would make a difference in ending the occupation. But, being that Afghanistan borders Pakistan and Iran we need more troops there so we can claim it as our own and prepare for future wars! Hello!? (sarcasm)
  • dredeyedick
    Biden should tell Arianna that he won't even think about resigning until Arianna APOLOGISES to Hillary for the HuffPost's BULLSHIT headline August 4 about Bill returning from Korea with the hostages. "Bill Upstages Hillary ... Again."

    Arianna doesn't have an ombudsman. She has a "media relations" PR guy who brushes off inquiries, and a moderator who IGNORES comments and feedback.

    See http://dredeyedick.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/huf...

    I promised a followup posting... but the ahh - "organisation" Arianna is running has ignored repeated requests for information about how this arrogant fuck up happened.

    I credit this to her lack of upbringing and a general deficit when it comes to having class, myself. This is a pity, as it put off TENS OF THOUSANDS of People who, until this incident, USED TO BE regulars at the Huffington Post.

    Until Arianna, and her organisation, get some class and own up to this mistake, I hereby offer an apology on her behalf. (Maybe she won't stay arrogant and ignorant forever.)

    - David C. Manchester
  • dredeyedick
    Biden should tell Arianna that he won't even think about resigning until Arianna APOLOGISES to Hillary for the HuffPost's BULLSHIT headline August 4 about Bill returning from Korea with the hostages. "Bill Upstages Hillary ... Again."

    Arianna doesn't have an ombudsman. She has a "media relations" PR guy who brushes off inquiries, and a moderator who IGNORES comments and feedback.

    See http://dredeyedick.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/huf...

    I promised a followup posting... but the ahh - "organisation" Arianna is running has ignored repeated requests for information about how this arrogant fuck up happened.

    I credit this to her lack of upbringing and a general deficit when it comes to having class, myself. This is a pity, as it put off TENS OF THOUSANDS of People who, until this incident, USED TO BE regulars at the Huffington Post.

    Until Arianna, and her organisation, get some class and own up to this mistake, I hereby offer an apology on her behalf. (Maybe she won't stay arrogant and ignorant forever.)

    - David C. Manchester
  • dredeyedick
    Biden should tell Arianna that he won't even think about resigning until Arianna APOLOGISES to Hillary for the HuffPost's BULLSHIT headline August 4 about Bill returning from Korea with the hostages. "Bill Upstages Hillary ... Again."

    Arianna doesn't have an ombudsman. She has a "media relations" PR guy who brushes off inquiries, and a moderator who IGNORES comments and feedback.

    See http://dredeyedick.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/huf...

    I promised a followup posting... but the ahh - "organisation" Arianna is running has ignored repeated requests for information about how this arrogant fuck up happened.

    I credit this to her lack of upbringing and a general deficit when it comes to having class, myself. This is a pity, as it put off TENS OF THOUSANDS of People who, until this incident, USED TO BE regulars at the Huffington Post.

    Until Arianna, and her organisation, get some class and own up to this mistake, I hereby offer an apology on her behalf. (Maybe she won't stay arrogant and ignorant forever.)

    - David C. Manchester
  • dankyogurt
    This is a completey misleading headline, it was a great article, pointing out the useless leadership in our country in every admin, beacause Biden will not resign, he probably will sulk and write some sad book about how he couldn't do anything to stop Obama from killing countless more Americans needlessly. This website should be ashamed for using disinformation tactics like this. I thought this was a progressive site, after that garbage article about 87,000 Iraqi civilians dying with no point about the number of census that say it's closer to a half million. Garbage.
  • thepoliticalcat
    How weird. My comments aren't showing up. What's up, Raw?
  • News Nag
    Right, Arianna, and then Obama could appoint your hero Roman Polanski to be the new VP. Feminists should now and forever distrust anything you support and say. And your ego does not trump Democratic Party goals, or does it? Why else would you trash Dems on national TV over and over and over again? You're a sham and a dilettante, who should have donated all her money to charity.
  • thepoliticalcat
    I can't recall when I heard a bigger load of tripe. Ms. Huffington needs to concentrate on her social life. I've never thought of her as liberal. There was a time when she was firmly in the conservative camp.
  • News Nag
    Yeah, and then she'll lobby for Obama to appoint poor misunderstood Roman Polanski, her hero, in Biden's place. Huffington is a very strange ally indeed. Feminists should now and forever automatically distrust everything she supports. And we all remember how she mercilessly and without foundation began bashing Hillary in 08, and without cause. Her instincts are flawed in various important areas. Sure, she has done some good and continues to do so, but you have to wonder how much she says and does is just to bring attention to her mahvelous self.
  • nobodyforpresident
    She's stepping intoBeck/ Limbaugh territory. Saying stupid, outrageous bullshit to get attention.
  • nobodyforpresident
    Oh yeah, Joe, resign. Like that worked so well for Sarah Palin.
  • no_bullshit
    ...but according to this elitist propagandist its ok for Israel to attack Iran.
  • HuffBlows
    Arianna is getting to full of herself.
  • Hologram5
    Who is this woman to tell the VP to resign over something that Biden wasn't party to starting or isn't even involved really. This is the POTUS' job to deal with. The VP is the diplomat.
  • jimbo92107
    Spell check: It's Afghani-Nam, folks. Same war, different terrain.

    Once again America is mired in another country's bloody civil war where all sides look identical, while totally demoralized US troops take and lose the same ground over and over, with no apparent end in sight.

    Once again our politicians are lying to our faces when they tell us that Afghani-Nam is vital to our national security. Fact is, better airport security would have stopped 9/11. Listening to the FBI's warnings and reading the CIA's presidential briefings would have stopped 9/11. Fact is, the Taliban and the Afghan warlords don't have WMD's any more than Iraq did.

    As a matter of foreign policy, Vietnam was a hyper-expensive, completely unnecessary, gruesome bloodletting for our troops. Over 50,000 Americans fought and died in vain, for nothing. Same could be said for over 5 million Vietnamese (srch "casualties in Vietnam"). In fact, America's presence made the inevitable aftermath of that war far more vicious than it might otherwise have been. Afghani-Nam is just like that.

    Would Joe Biden's resignation help persuade Obama to get the hell out of Afghani-Nam? Hard to say, but if there's any chance at all, then resign, Joe Biden. Whatever other items you may have on your busy VP plate, none of them compares to saving the lives of our over-stressed troops fighting in a war that accomplishes nothing more than enriching crooked contractors and weapons makers.

    Afghani-Nam is good for nothing except creating a whole new generation of utterly disillusioned, combat-trained veterans. All we are doing is punishing our troops for the political and moral incompetence of our congress and president.

    Afghani-Nam: Love it or leave it.
  • TrueBlue
    What was Arianna Huffington doing when Barack Obama was wearing out his shoes and voice as a community organizer in Chicago???

    Her "books" from that era are notorious for their shallow, shoddy research; she married a closeted gay right-wing millionaire to put her in the elite company she so dearly sought. Who did she idolize in the early to mid-'90's? Newt Gingrich.

    She's changed colors more than the leaves on a Vermont maple tree. Others in the progressive blogosphere were once Republicans who have since seen the light, but Huffington's path is more cunning, disingenuous and cameleonic than your average convert.

    Her site has been running hysterical headlines for months now that are misleading at best and are undercutting Obama at every possible turn, and she's doing it by wrapping herself in the mantle of progressives. All this while the Huffington Post is now a combination of Drudge, People, TMZ, the Beast, and the Playboy channel. She's dead to me.
  • CaptBebops
    What part of "Afghanistan is the graveyard of nations" does she not understand? Or Obama either? The US is broke. We can no longer be the "world's policeman" and should have never been. We can't afford it. We need to use that money for our own people not some in another country. Bring our troops home. From everywhere.
  • This is the first time Raw's bold new comment engine has failed to post immediately. I hope this is not a permanent condition, but merely some kind of breakdown soon to be remedied.
  • The problem for Biden is that he is one of the poorest senators, having missed his chance for decades to embezzle his way to wealth like so many. If he resigns, will he have to go on the dole?

    Maybe Arianna will hire him as a columnist?
  • Dr. N
    If there is anybody in America that should try keeping their mouth shut more than Joe Biden, it's Arianna Huffington.
  • elkek
    Why would you give up your job in order to "have a real impact" on what your boss is going to do? This is a cockamamie idea that doesn't deserve any coverage from a person who hasn't worked for anyone else for a loooooong time, if ever. You don't resign to impact your boss. You stay. You talk. You don't win every case. You move on.
  • Savantster
    .
    The concept is "doing the right thing, even when it's hard".

    I just don't get how a surge in a place we're supposed to be leaving is the "right thing"..
  • elkek
    When you are part of an administration, particularly one as important as that leading the country, the "right thing" is to stay -- NOT to leave -- when your boss is taking things in a direction you don't like/think is wrong. The "right thing" is to keep your voice in a position of relative power and use it as long as you can, and in as inventive and meaningful ways as you can, to give your boss counsel and to help your boss make the right decisions in a shifting landscape. The "right thing" is definitely NOT to ride your high horse to the Land of Futility, then write a book later about how things would've been better if people had just listened to you.
  • musashi
    the military industrial syndicate needs never ending war, and our nobel peace prize winning
    house #igga is only too glad to oblige! the entire game in this country is rigged, now that
    we have completely 3rd world style corruption in the usa, we are feeling the effects of 3rd
    world standard of living that goes hand in hand. obama diddles while the new rome burns!
    i hate to say it, but it feels like failure might be better sooner than later for the usa, so we
    can rebuild like former soviet union, OUR COUNTRY IS THAT BROKEN! no worries,
    the banks and the corporations, and the filthy rich 1 percent of the population are ready,
    only the rest of us will feel the pain of the failure of the once greatest nation on earth.
  • RevolutionDynamo
    Joe Biden...resign? Why not? I don't think I've heard his name mentioned once since the election. Anyone know what he's been up to these past 9 months??
  • asiliveandbreathe
    "Liberal" means liberal use of government in all governmental affairs, so yes, increasing troops in another sovereign nation is a liberal stance. Where did her anti war side go to? When Bush was in office she kept saying that these wars were unjust.
  • Savantster
    .
    Once again, you show you either don't understand definitions or you are too dishonest to use them properly. The two terms, Liberal and liberal don't mean the same thing despite your trying to play games with the language. In fact, it's your game playing that makes you dismissible and laughable.

    Though, I agree about her anti-war side question. We need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan (and many other places we have a presence). We spend way too much money on this military industrial complex bullshit and not enough on actually advancing our country and the species. Makes me kind of angry.
  • bizmark
    She needs to go away. Democrats don't need or want her advice. I watched her trashing Dems on This Week last Sunday and I am now convinced she is working for the GOP. It's fine to criticize your party but that was way over the top.
  • bizmark
    She needs to just go away. On This Week last Sunday she did nothing but trash Dem leaders. It's no problem to differ with her party's leaders but to go on and on ripping them to shreds it sounds like she is working for the Republicans. I believe she is at this point.
  • Savantster
    .
    Failing to criticize poor decisions is what we rail against the right-wing for when we point out that they never held the Shrub to any kind of standard.

    Pointing out the lies the leadership has told, pointing out the un-American policies they are instilling, holding our leaders to a high standard, that's what many on the left have been saying and doing for a very long time.

    Criminals need to be prosecuted, period. Not just when they are of the other political stripe. Bad policies need to be criticized, period. Not just when they are coming from the other side of the isle. Right is right, period. Hypocrisy is what is destroying this country.
  • lorn
    Arianna is a despicable liar and a war monger dressed up as a liberal.
    As for your assertion that she is working for Republicans? That term is so passe, so 1990's.

    Neocons infest both parties, control both parties and any notion that there is any difference between those two parties is entirely false.

    Huffington and fake progressive media have been polishing Obama and attempting to wash the blood from his hands since the day he took office. There are many disgusting neocon swine who played the role of anti Bush progressives wonderfully, but now shill for the same wars.
    Code pink now supports the immoral criminal wars.
    Sean Penn had gone undergound but still worships Obama and supports his illegal wars when asked.
    Michael Moore is AWOL on this issue....probably following the 'advice' of his agent and lifelong manager. Coincidentally the brother of Moore's boss is also Obama's manager.........those Emanuel brothers sure get around.
    The entire fake 'save the school girls' movement is just the latest propaganda wave to con liberals into supporting the expansion of the Bush wars by Obama.

    The neocons control most 'opposition' movements, their mouthpieces like Huffington and Alexandrovna and Olberman.
    The Democratic party died years ago.
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