It’s official: Democrats drop opt-out public option

By The Associated Press
Tuesday, December 8th, 2009 -- 8:41 pm
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WASHINGTON – After days of secret talks, Senate Democrats tentatively agreed Tuesday night to drop a government-run insurance option from sweeping health care legislation, several officials said, a concession to party moderates whose votes are critical to passage of President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

In its place, officials said Democrats had tentatively settled on a private insurance arrangement to be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage. Additionally, the emerging agreement calls for Medicare to be opened to uninsured Americans beginning at age 55, a significant expansion of the large government health care program that currently serves the 65-and-over population.

At a hastily called evening news conference in the Capitol, Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., declined to provide details of what he described as a "broad agreement" between liberals and moderates on an issue that has plagued Democrats' efforts to pass health care legislation from the outset.

With it, he added, the end is in sight for passage of the legislation that Congress has labored over for months.

The officials who described the details of the closed-door negotiations did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss them publicly.

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At its core, the legislation would expand health care to millions who lack it, ban insurance companies from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions and rein in the rise of health care spending nationally.

The developments followed a vote on the Senate floor earlier in the day in which abortion opponents failed to inject tougher restrictions into sweeping health care bill, and Democratic leaders labored to make sure fallout from the issue didn't hamper the drive to enact legislation. The vote was 54-45.

Taken together, the day's developments underscored the complexity that confronts the administration and Reid as they seek the 60 votes needed to overcome Republican opposition and pass a bill by Christmas.

Despite their reluctance, some senators had talked openly and in detail earlier in the day about the progress of the negotiations.

The provision in the legislation to be dropped under the emerging agreement provides for a government-run insurance option to be available to consumers, with individual states permitted to drop out. Liberals have long sought such as arrangement, as a means of forcing competition on insurance companies.

One participant in the talks, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, told reporters he didn't like the deal, but he added, "I'm going to support it to the hilt" in hopes of securing passage of the health care bill.

Another senator involved, Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., issued a statement saying, "I do not support proposals that would replace the public option in the bill with a purely private approach. We need to have some competition for the insurance industry to keep rates down and save taxpayer dollars." But he did not rule out voting for the measure.

In his comments to reporters, Reid said the emerging compromise "includes a public option and will help ensure the American people win in two ways: one, insurance companies will face more competition, and two, the American people will have more choices."

It wasn't clear what he meant by a "public option," the Medicare expansion or another as yet unknown element.

It was unclear, for example, what fallback steps would be included in case private insurance companies declined to participate in the nationwide plan envisioned to be overseen by the Office of Personnel Management. One possibility was for the agency to set up a government-run plan, either national in scope or on a state-by-state basis, but no confirmation was available.

Under the tentative agreement, liberals lost their bid to expand Medicaid, the federal-state program that provides health care for the poor, elderly and disabled. But they prevailed on the Medicare expansion, and the negotiators appeared ready to maintain a separate health care program for children until 2013, two years longer than the bill currently calls for, according to officials familiar with the details.

Additionally, there was consensus support for a requirement long backed by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., and other liberals for insurance companies to spend at least 90 percent of their premium income providing benefits, a step that supporters argue effectively limits their spending on advertising, salaries, promotional efforts and profits.

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  • Sythesis
    Thanks for posting on this, Rob. I think it is shameful that Potter and Mathern would have the audacity to tell a drug listcompany (owned and operated by ND policy holders) what they can and can not say about a political issue. It's damn near Orwellian.
  • gfulmore
    I do not see how the Medicare for younger folks would work. Medicare is subsidized by about $900 per month, per enrollee, in Northern California, for example. Medicare, Part D, appeared to be a privatization thing designed to bankrupt Medicare. Is this proposal going in the same direction? Medicare is NOT now broke, but it does not have the income to add tens of millions of new enrollees at the current rate of subsidy. And how many of the "new" folks would want to or be able to contribute $900/mo for the product? I just don't get it.
  • Ez4moi
    What is there not to get? This is not about improving our medical system or cutting medical costs. It is not about insuring everyone. In fact, about 5,000,000 will still not be insured if this all goes through. This reform is all about controlling people while obligating them to the government. As to the mechanics, taxes are going to rise on everyone. When this does not generate enough revenue, medical care will be rationed.

    Control freaks were voted into power. They are doing that which they do best.
  • gfulmore
    In a message dated 12/10/2009 8:20:35 P.M. Central America Standard ,
    writes:

    What is there not to get? This is not about improving our medical system
    or cutting medical costs. It is not about insuring everyone. In fact,
    about 5,000,000 will still not be insured if this all goes through. This
    reform is all about controlling people while obligating them to the
    government. As to the mechanics, taxes are going to rise on everyone. When this
    does not generate enough revenue, medical care will be rationed.



    That's nuts. Health insurance now is all about being "privileged." Most
    conservative expect to be "privileged" and ignore those who are not.
    Remember Katrina and all the people "left behind"? That is what health care
    U.S.A. looks like now if you are honest about it. I'm not worried about the
    public option. I know that that is not what health care reform is all
    about. The plan is to move forward and not to move back. That is what it is
    all about.
  • gfulmore
    In a message dated 12/10/2009 8:20:35 P.M. Central America Standard ,
    writes:

    What is there not to get? This is not about improving our medical system
    or cutting medical costs. It is not about insuring everyone. In fact,
    about 5,000,000 will still not be insured if this all goes through. This
    reform is all about controlling people while obligating them to the
    government. As to the mechanics, taxes are going to rise on everyone. When this
    does not generate enough revenue, medical care will be rationed.



    That's nuts. Health insurance now is all about being "privileged." Most
    conservative expect to be "privileged" and ignore those who are not.
    Remember Katrina and all the people "left behind"? That is what health care
    U.S.A. looks like now if you are honest about it. I'm not worried about the
    public option. I know that that is not what health care reform is all
    about. The plan is to move forward and not to move back. That is what it is
    all about.
  • You all are angry,
    You all talk about voting.

    But you all still haven't outlawed electronics in elections.
    Your vote doesn't even count and nobody can prove it does..

    Between Government Corruption, Banksters, and now EPA/Copenhagen
    You won't be worrying about voting much longer.

    But it's your right to bitch..
  • SeekerSTL
    OK...I need some help understanding the details of how Medicare works from some of you experts but doesn't this compromise basically relieve the insurance companies of all the expenses related to insuring higher risk, 55 and over patients? It looks like we will be forced to buy insurance, giving insurance companies billlions in new revenue, and then when our health care starts to get more costly, when we turn 55, we will be pushed into Medicare...sounds like another "win" for insurance companies...
  • really?
    That's exactly it Seeker, you hit it right on the head. Under state regulations, insurance companies have their litle death panels deciding not to give care, but it is appeallable through what is called the Office of the Commissioner of Insurance in most states. If they lose, your sue them.

    now if it gets put under the panel that oversees the federal employees' benefits, the insurance companies do not need their own death panels, and if you the dont like what the panel decides, tough, state law is preempted.

    all liability is cut, with 50 million people forced to buy under threat of fines and jail.
  • DownriverDem
    In 2010 when things shake out and we are told that the Dem supporters did not vote, I don't want to hear any whining from the Dems in DC.

    I have been writing weekly to tell my senators and the president that we must have a public option for all Americans. The young voters who worked their buns off will just sit on their hands and not vote.

    There are no words to express how I feel.



  • really?
    run against your congress man or senator if they are up for election next year. that is the words you should use to express your anger.
  • DownriverDem
    I'm lucky. My senators (Levin & Stabinaw) and rep (Cheeks-Kilpatrick) vote the way I want them too. I write them to make sure they know that their votes are being watched.
  • ss
    You'd have to be a complete and utter IDIOT to blame the Democrats for not getting exactly what we as Democrats want.
    EVERYTHING is the Republicans fault. Eliminate the filthy Republican party once and for all - AND then problem is solved. Shit if we had even 2 or 3 more more real Democrats in the Senate this would have been a slam-dunk---If we had 5 or 10 more we'll rule America the right way..GET RID OF THE GOD-DAMNED REPUBLICANS once and for all----
  • Ez4moi
    Rule? Isn't that pretty strong in a republican form of government?
  • really?
    hey, smell the coffee, the liberals and progressives of this country got betrayed. you were tricked by a bunch of corporate tools. get it through your head. they dont give a shit about the people, they do what the big donors want.

    the health insurance companies ran this from day one, day one. they are the second largest group of contributors to obama behind the wallstreet banks.
  • ss
    You'd have to be a complete and utter IDIOT to blame the Democrats for not getting exactly what we as Democrats want.
    EVERYTHING is the Republicans fault. Eliminate the filthy Republican party once and for all - AND then problem is solved. Shit if we had even 2 or 3 more more real Democrats in the Senate this would have been a slam-dunk---If we had 5 or 10 more we'll rule America the right way..GET RID OF THE GOD-DAMNED REPUBLICANS once and for all----
  • Mary Palomar
    I am dismayed and disheartened. We all turned out to vote the Democrats in, so they would reform health care (ideally, just extend Medicare to everyone in a single-payer system). And end the wars. And start reversing human damage to the atmosphere. And once more, they are tearing defeat out of the jaws of victory, except we lose.

    We Americans pay roughly twice as much for our health care as other developed countries, see doctors about half as often, spend a lot more on pharmaceuticals, lose something like twice as many of our babies per thousand before age 1, and have noticeably shorter lifespans (check out http://www.irdes.fr/EcoSante/DownLoad/OECDHealt...).

    The whole point of health care reform, it seems, is nothing more than keeping unneeded, parasitical insurance companies afloat, and the surplus money insurance companies get from our failed system is what is paying for the failure of the Democrats to effect real health care reform.

    Doesn't this just make you want to go out in November 2010 and keep the Democratic Party in control of the Senate and Congress? The Democrats won't lose in 2010 because everyone will vote for the GOP: They'll lose because their erstwhile supporters will be too demoralized to bother countering the few who will turn out for the GOP. We're screwed either way. Some hope and change, folks.
  • Ez4moi
    On election day you'll be there. But I don't see why based upon what you've said.
  • Max_1
    .

    Congress thinks Americans do NOT deserve affordable health care...
    ... Because "affordable" is NOT "profitable" enough!

    Congress has their cake...
    ... They think we can have the crumbs.

    F_CK 'EM!

    ANY Senator that votes to NOT allow their fellow Americans affordable measures to health/life care ought to be thrown out and DENIED coverage.

    Corporate Cronies are anathema to America...
    ... Yet here we stand, in their midst.

    T-A-R
    - N -
    FEATHER

    ,
  • EnderW
    Remember the post-OKC hearings chaired by Hatch???

    Hatch was sucking terrorist cock and taking up the ass and begging for more!!!

    I think it's time to do some serious investigation of the entire anti-choice TERRORIST organization, from the top down... Let's start with Republicans in the Senate and their connections to domestic TERRORISTS!!!!

    After all, when Senators propose legislation to REWARD TERRORISTS for their actions with everything they desire, then I think we have some TERRORIST ASSETS IN THE SENATE!!!!

    Torture their asses! Let's find out how deep the rabbit hole goes!!!!
  • EnderW
    "Nor was it clear how Nelson would respond to the defeat."

    Nah, it's perfectly clear. Hell tell his financial supporters to go on another bombing spree.
  • disappointedvoter
    "a concession to party moderates"

    Ain't that just like the Assimilated Press. Those are not moderate Democrats, they are CONSERVATIVE Democrats.

    It would be accurate to call them corporatists, and even more accurate to call them corporate whores.
  • really?
    i prefer the term fascists.
  • Nickelthrower
    Did anyone really expect anything different? Sadly, the only way to fix this problem is to let it break so we can start over.

    1. Do not vote! Do not legitimize these criminals by choosing the lesser of two evils. Screw 'em.
    2. Do not allow you or your family members to enlist in the military. Force them to draft us and see how quickly their little wars come to an end.
    3. Starve them of your tax dollars. Eventually, China, Germany and Japan will see the writing on the wall once tax receipts fall and they will stop loaning our criminal class the trillions they need to lord over the rest of us. It is hard to have big government without big money.
    4. Think Small. Imagine what your community will be like once it is detached from our criminal federal government. Begin working towards sustainability at the neighborhood and local level. Start doing this NOW while there is still food on the shelves at the grocery store because if you wait too long it will be too late.
  • seen2much
    Finally, you are waking up to the bad joke our 2 party system truly is. You want out? Personally, I highly doubt even 10% of those who posted here have the guts to do what must be done:

    QUIT FEEDING THE BEAST!!!!

    Stop buying ANYTHING other than what you must have to stay alive!!!

    Even then, look for options outside of the corporatist machine!! Go to a local farmers market OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, places like sprouts and such other nonsense are just corporate crap under a false label!!! If you can't, just do your best to stick to ONLY the barest basics, starve the beast of your blood!!!

    If you have more than 10,000 in debt, just walk away and live on a cash only basis. Credit is nothing more than modern slavery. The chains are not locked as they would have you believe!
    Live within your means, and flip your task masters the bird!!!

    You ready for the best part?:

    Everything I told you in this post will eventually be forced upon you, soon you will have no other option but to live as I described. These illusions we call an economy will finish evaporating like so much morning mist under a glaring sun, and the government cannot keep up with their squirt bottles, despite their desperate proclamations of "It's getting better.".. So, the sooner you get back to reality, the softer the impact will be on you when we all crash into the bottom.

    YOU are feeding the beast that oppresses you.
    YOU are buying the bombs that are ripping children apart in the far-flung corners of the globe.
    YOU are your own jailer in this corporatist penitentiary of corporatist Amerika!!!

    Set yourself free: Grant yourself and your loved ones parole, just opt out. Just walk away. it will be the most powerful vote you ever cast.

    Baa! BAAAAA! Little sheeple, have you any meat to pay the wolves?
  • John
    Our government is gridlocked and owned by legislators who put corporations over citizens every time. This includes the entire Republican party and many Democrats as well. We are a corporatocracy, not a democracy.

    It will not recover because there are too many uneducated and misinformed people subscribing to the lies we know as Fox News and right wing talk radio. These unthinking sheep are our future.
  • John
    Our government is gridlocked and owned by legislators who put corporations over citizens every time. This includes the entire Republican party and many Democrats as well. We are a corporatocracy, not a democracy.

    It will not recover because there are too many uneducated and misinformed people subscribing to the lies we know as Fox News and right wing talk radio. These unthinking sheep are our future.
  • Guest
    And... the Democrats cave on another issue. Pouring everyone under 55 into "private insurance" is hardly the change I envisioned. I am not interested in feeding these beasts that stand between me and quality healthcare. Additionally, Olympia Snowe has won her fight for a trigger. So, nothing actually happens until things break again. I have given up on the Democrats keeping any campaign promises and I happily sent my first contribution to a candidate challenging a Democratic incumbent in my city. Democrats have no spine and undeserving of any support from progressives.
  • really?
    are you dumbass democrats/liberals getting it yet? 50 million people will have to buy private health insurance under the threat of thousands of dollars in fine and jail time.

    now there will be a government panel between the those providers and the public. this panel will determine what level of treatment your doctor gives you. under the state laws, you could sue the insurance companies for not providing treatment, under this, kiss that goodbye.

    the major health insurance companies have owned "health care reform" from the start. everything else was street theater to get to this point. months ago business week ran a story saying certain health care companies were running the show, rawstory even covered it, but did not believe it. you had better believe those companies will be the ones walking away with this prize.
  • leblue
    Harry...you are worthless. Quit, retire, disappear.
    It is time for the democrats to take back their party.
  • enorceht
    that is just so sweet ... whatever piece of mail i get from any type of "politician" and with elections right around the corner and at my own expense i will be stuffing that propaganda in an envelope with a label attached reading

    please send your propagande to someone who cares
  • dickpinch
    Hey Dems! Say goodbye to at mid-terms and 2012 when the apathy of your betrayed base ignores coming out to vote. You had the chance to do things right by the mandate you were given and you BLEW IT! Bravo. Imbeciles.
  • James
    This is incredible! The dems did not lose the battle to the Repubs who will do anything to keep their money and unfair tax advantages etc etc. No, the dems didn't lose it, because they didn't fight it. You can't lose a fight if you run away fast enough. The problem with health insurance is it is PRIVATE. It needs to be PUBLIC. So it is Obama's waterloo. Not because he lost it, but he didn't even fight it. Sure, let's let the insurance companies with their practices of dropping people who get sick, and not taking people who have a condition stay in charge.

    Did you know that for the last 2 weeks or so the health sector of the stock market has been doing quite well. That means we get to pick up even more bills.
  • leblue
    How about replacing Harry with somebody with BALLS; I'm a democrat from liberal SF that is tired of too many rub job's. All our progressive Dem's are CFR members. Time to plan our oun surge and find the spine, let the cards fly. Sorry Diane, and Nancy ...you might as well go have drinks with Charlotte and George Schultz ...your toast.
    The Council For Foreign Relations is about to hit the big screen ..duck and cover.
  • Sam
    Dream on. Unfortunately, both the war profiteer (Feinstein) and the war criminal (Pelosi) will remain in congress until they choose to retire. Those who vote will keep these two pieces of trash in their jobs simply because they have a D behind their name and because of their name recognition. And as for war criminal Pelosi, she will be kept in because of some perceived "influence" she has for the City & County of San Francisco. It's long past due that people get their heads of their asses and start reading voting records of these scum of the Earth war criminal politicians. And if you have any intelligence you will vote for a so-called "third party" candidate who is actually a true progressive. Such as Nader or McKinney. And if you have to stay in the brainwashed D rut, you could vote for Kucinich. I don't know why the hell he stays with that useless Dem party. They ignore him. Most of them can't stand him.
  • Crash Chloride
    Very sad.

    I wish I could help mount a primary challenge to un-seat a DINO but I happen to live in a very blue part of the country. I am represented by Marcy Kaptur, Sherrod Brown and the despicable John Boehner. I guess the best I can do is to work to unseat the Boehner (he of the perma-tan and drunken eyes).

    I'm just so let down that our rep's have chosen to support their corporate interests over the people... yet again.
  • disappointedvoter
    "our rep's have chosen to support their corporate interests"

    Face facts - our system is set up so that if they didn't whore themselves out to corporations, they'd get replaced by someone who did.

    Blame corporate money and voter stupidity. What else can you expect from a country where more people believe in the reality of angels than of global warming?

    We are fucked.
  • really?
    do it!!! hell, run yourself. do it.
  • Isis
    I voted Green Party, and have for years. Too bad everyone else is afraid to vote Green. The Business Elites win whether it's the Dems or Reps in office. We have to stop hiding behind the Wall St Dems and organize around the Greens!
  • Max_1
    Everyone?
    ... Proof?

    Oh, NVM...
    ... You're just being polarizing.
  • disappointedvoter
    I never vote for scumpublicans, and I will not again vote for Democrats. I dropped out of the Democratic Party when Howard Dean left the chairmanship.

    Obama stiffing Dean didn't endear me to Obama, either.
  • jdouglas
    I've been voting Green for years. Back in 2000 I worked my ass off collecting ballot petition signatures for Nader.
  • In the US "senate", 68% of the US population gets 32% of the vote.
    (68% of the population lives in the 16 most populous states).
    A country with such anti-democratic institutions deserves the
    plutocracy it gets.
  • Ez4moi
    This country was never intended to be a democracy. The founders established a republic.
  • ComradeRutherford
    Yes, I keep reminding people that the US us a Democratically elected Republic.

    Referenda are actual democracy (mob rule) and look how screwed up that is! Where 51% of the people can vote to take away all civil rights of the other 49%!
  • peterlawrence
    YOU SPINELESS SHITS... THERE'S GONNA BE A CIVIL WAR OVER THIS!!!!
  • DownriverDem
    I call that treason.
  • peterlawrence
    Wow! aren't you a stupid shit!!! Why don't you actually pick up a book and read the treason laws... 2381 to 2390. When you find something I've violated, please let me know... LOL treason... LOL. I can talk about treason too. Under 2382 almost all of congress and Obama are guilty and should be removed from office. Under 2381 Cheney and others are guilty and should be shot. 8 of those 9 treason laws were violated by the previous administration and have various punishments. Dude, if you're gonna accuse someone maybe you should do your research first and maybe you should pick someone that can't defend against a little putz like you. I merely stated what would happen... I did not ask that it happen, I did not conspire to make it happen, I did not advocate for it happening. I will say the same to you as I do to all idiots that would speak up without checking their facts first... it is better to be quiet and feign stupidity than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
  • Sam
    A "civil war over this?"

    LOL. What drugs are you on? A civil war would require people having the ability to walk in protests and most people in this nation would have difficulty walking from one block to the next without having to take a break. As someone else noted, most people are way too out of shape to protest. The extent of "exercise" for many people is climbing into their SUV and then rolling out of it when they get to where they're going.
  • disappointedvoter
    "THERE'S GONNA BE A CIVIL WAR OVER THIS"

    Keep dreaming. People in this country are too fat, lazy, and hypnotized by television and religion.
  • lkern
    Then they can kiss my money, my time and my passion goodbye. I've had enough.
  • really?
    if you have money, time and passion, don't just sit there, start planning to run for your congressman's seat.
  • disappointedvoter
    "start planning to run for your congressman's seat"

    Get real. You can't get elected to shit in this country without millions of dollars in campaign money, and you can't get that from ANYWHERE except corporations.
  • really?
    so? accept that you will only do a one term seat, take their money then screw them.
  • jpbellavance
    Democrats are spineless. Another bit of milk toast legistlation. Goes along well with our milk toast president.

    Bahahaha!
  • Sam
    I wish people would stop saying "the Dems are spineless." The Dems are *not* spineless. They and the Repugs work for the same people and are paid by the same people. The Dems have had a spine of steel when it comes to working for the Bush regime and helping them accomplish their goals. And they and war criminal Obama are continuing the Bush agenda under the name of the Obama regime.
  • kiboshki
    .
    In all fairness, Republicans freely admit they're bought and paid-for shills for their corporate puppetmasters.

    Most Dems, on the other hand, kinda pretend to still be for the ordinary citizens. In that sense, they're spineless: too embarrassed to openly proclaim their allegiance to the Republicans' corporate puppetmasters.
    .
  • jdouglas
    I believe that's supposed to by milquetoast.
  • everafter
    CHANGE SCHMANGE... and I voted for the dirtbag F*&%#$@ -- There is NO change. Corporate tenticles are firmly squeezing puppet Obama widdle hazelnuts.
  • dennycrane
    Do you "think" they did it because it sucked and wanted something better----like "medicare" for whoever wants it? Or because they like the republicans pissing on their leg to make them feel warm?
  • nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, good bye

    We've missed you Republicans! see you next year at the polls! only two more years after that until you are back in the oval office where Ms Palin will be hanging moose heads on the walls to make her feel comfortable...

    Really Dems!?! the compromise should have been Medicare down to 50 and a strong public option available to all!!!! But when you start your negotiations below where they they should end up you will alway lose!
  • Time to check out the electronic voting machines and see why we can't get a 3rd party in there.
  • Glen Rose
    Weak! Sad deal. Change? I voted for change but it seems we're getting the Same. BO has done a lot of good things, but I think we are expecting more than "good". I think after the last 8 years of "indifference" to all those without a couple million in the bank we should get what we voted for, not what we voted against.
  • disappointedvoter
    "BO has done a lot of good things"

    Yeah? Name one.

    Go ahead, I dare you.

    Can't do it, can you. 99% of everything Obama has done is identical to what Bush was doing.
  • captainfrank
    He has not done shit you moron.
  • Sam
    If you had examined his Bush-accomplice voting record from the senate and listened to what he said outside of his feel-good pabulum speeches, you would realize that you did indeed get what you voted for. That's why some of us voted for Nader or McKinney because we saw this man for what he is: a fraud.
  • ComradeRutherford
    Exactly. I knew for at least the year previous to the election that Obama is a GOP operative pretending to be a Democrat.

    Therefore I am not Surprised that he is EXACTLY the same as Bush, and that he only follows the orders of his Conservative slave-masters.

    I, certainly did NOT vote for Obama! I took great pride in voting for McKinney, one of the few real Democrats (even though she was hounded out of congress by the Fake-Dems).
  • Sam
    What "good" things has war criminal Obama done? I can't think of any frankly. (Other than the stem cell thing and there was some question about the funding for that). Could you please provide a list? Gracias.

    He's continuing 2 occupations
    continuing the USA Patriot Act
    continuing torture
    continuing rendition
    continuing illegal spying
    droning Pakistan and killing innocent people there
    continuing mountain top removal
    He's copying Bush by doing a "troop surge" in Afghanistan.
    That's just a partial list. In other words, he's continued the Bush regime agenda. So what "good things" are you talking about specifically?
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