More Americans believe in angels than humans’ role in global warming

By John Byrne
Tuesday, December 8th, 2009 -- 10:12 am
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meltingice More Americans believe in angels than humans role in global warmingMore Americans believe in guardian angels than humans' role in global warming, according to recent polls.

A Pew poll released late last month found that just 36 percent of Americans believe humans are responsible for accelerating global climate change, which scientists say mushroomed after the industrial revolution due to humans' dependence on carbon-based fuels.

Carbon dioxide, which is produced by the combustion of oil, coal and other fuels, was ruled a "dangerous" threat to public health by the Environmental Protection Agency Monday. It increases the propensity of the earth's atmosphere to retain heat.

But a near-consensus from scientists doesn't have Americans convinced. The Pew poll found that while 57 percent believe that the earth's climate is changing, just 36 percent believe that humans are responsible. 77 percent believed that global warming existed in Pew's poll conducted in 2007.

The 36 percent who believe in human-caused climate change is fewer than the number of Americans who apparently believe they're protected by guardian angels, some 55 percent, according to a poll published in 2008.

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"Half of all Americans believe they are protected by guardian angels, one-fifth say they've heard God speak to them, one-quarter say they have witnessed miraculous healings, 16 percent say they've received one and 8 percent say they pray in tongues, according to a survey" conducted by Baylor University published in September of 2008.

The Baylor survey was conducted in 2007 by telephone calls to 1,648 adults, who were asked more than 300 questions about their spiritual beliefs.

That's not all. A blog at the website of Foreign Policy notes that more Americans believe in UFOs and ghosts than do anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming.

34 percent of Americans said they believed in UFOs and ghosts in a Halloween 2007 survey conducted by Ipsos for the Associated Press.

Just 39 percent of Americans said in a February poll that they believe in evolution.

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  • Robert
    Until some one can find a real missing link or explain how mutation can increase the information in a genome evolution will remain a shallow theory.
  • Citizen42
    Yeah, same with gravity. These scientists - trying to foist mere theories on us!
  • tarko
    god bless america. goodbye america. it's a shame to see you go. get your fat lardasses off the couch and look at the world. shut off fox news and get out and smell the flowers. world leader, maybe in dumbfucks. i'm very close to becoming ashamed to be an american. wake up people. you screw your neighbors wife and refute evolution. climate change doesn't existe, oh really. poor country, short reign as world leader. too fuckin fat too fuckin lazy too fuckin stupid. keep listening to rush and the volksfront you're making great strides....sickening
  • Andrew
    I'm SICK of everyone gloating about how stupid Americans are. GO OUT THERE AND EDUCATE THEM OR STFU
  • Nans
    Who are we to judge someone for their beliefs? We all have our own stories and own belief. Let's respect each other and allow us to express ourselves.
  • billybob
    The basic physics behind global warming has been known for over 100 years. Read Andrew Weaver's ( Keeping Our Cool ) if you want to understand the basic science. Don't be victimized by the denial-conspiracy lunatic fringe.
  • jdearman77
    YOU GLOBAL WARMING DENIERS CAN ALL GO TO HELL!!!! because thats where you'll be when we destroy the planet . Stop living in the here and now and start thinking about the future of humankind.
  • Dan Procaccini
    Thanks for deleting my post, it has validated my point.
  • Dan Procaccini
    Nevermind, I'm just new to the forums, didn't realize it was sorted as most popular first.
  • Dan Procaccini
    Hmm, interesting. You are trying to correlate a link between Christians and people who don't believe in global warming. Does everyone that doesn't believe in God believe in global warming? Do people that do believe have to reject it? What is this link that you are trying to get at? Be fair and mention that Al Gore, a figure in the global warming issue, is a Christian, so you can't say that A always equals B. This is propaganda at it's finest.
  • idrinkbeer
    If angels aren't watching over me how do you explain that I've never been hit by a bus or contracted chlamydia?

    Proof of angels that is irre-f*%$ing-futable!

    Eat that, haters!
  • disappointedvoter
    America: The land of retards.
  • If 57% of Americans believe in global warming and 55% believe in guardian angels, then a minimum of 7% believe both.

    These people must believe that their guardian angel is doing nothing to protect them from global warming. Ha.
  • .
  • Really, angels? Was this poll taken in the deep psycho religious areas of the country? Also, how is global warming a fraud at all. Please do tell, enlighten my liberal brain from MA as of how global warming is a fraud.
  • dennycrane
    An "angel" will be using a snorkel to protect the part of florida that looks like a limp penis from "disappearing." You "milk-carton-boatmen" from cuba better start saving your cartons again.
  • Scuby
    Yeah...well, there is a huge majority of morons out there that believe the earth was created in 7 days, and is only 6000 years old, because a book written by men (not god) told them so.....EVEN THOUGH SCIENCE HAS UNEQUIVOCALLY AND INARGUABLY PROVEN THAT THE EARTH TOOK HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF YEARS TO FORM, AND IS AROUND 4.5 BILLION (with a "b") years old!! Seriously folks...do you think those scientifically proven 185 million year old dinosaur fossils were planted underground by God himself 6000 years ago?? Did he transport them here from one of his other worlds? And if so....why? Of course more people believe in angels than global warming...because unfortunately, earth is populated by more IDIOTS than it is with people with cognitive reasoning skills.
  • jdouglas
    I believe that angles are my protractors.
  • Disenfranchised
    So ummm what if I ALSO believe Angels are bullshit, along with AGW?

    Is this article linking us "deniers" with Christians now? Because it seems the religiosity is coming from the alarmist /warmist camp WAY more than this side of the fence.

    I have a new theory that "old" religions got boring to certain personality types, so they put "faith" in man, well, not really faith....faith that man is at fault....so I guess that would be blame....okay wait....faith in an unproven science...that's it.

    And Raw....how come you are STILL Awol on the CRU data, yet post these little pet project articles to ruffle feathers. Again, it's all too transparent.

    How's this:

    The world is tired of fairy tales and myth, Angels, resurrection, talking snakes, "Al Qaeda", "terror", burning bushes, psychics, sky people, messiahs, lies, bankers, corruption, more lies, fudging the data, fudge factors, hiding stuff, Dogma, scaremongering, reactionism, black or white, with us or against us, join us or die, blah blah blah blah.

    AGW is now tacked on to that line of spinning bullshit that we grow sooooo tired of listening to with no hard definitive proof for us to agree on.

    Yet another MYTH that , if pushed to it's limit, will control every aspect of our lives regardless of it's validity.

    At least the Christians aren't poised or have enough power to enslave the friggin planet.

    So my answer to the above poll is "C", "AGW and Bible Thumpers can both toss."

    Fools to the left of me ...jokers to the right....here I am......
  • jcletus
    Can you blame them? After all, we believed in our politicians for years! Why not believe in angels?!? I wouldn't vote for a Republican ever, but I don't know of a Democrat I'd vote for either. Believing in angels is much safer.
  • DaL1844
    I always think that the issue is that the USA refuses to evolve. We are the cave people of eras gone by. Rather than understanding what's around us or accepting that humans have any effect on this planet we'd prefer to believe that the sky being controls all of this.

    Dave
  • nedclark
    While I have some qualms about the mixing-and-matching of results from different polls, conducted a different times among different subject groups, this comparison of data is interesting (and chilling); more of our fellow citizens believe that they have a personal Guardian Angel than accept the notion of anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming.

    Maybe they believe that their Guardian Angels will protect them from rising oceans, migrating pests and diseases, and massive agriculture displacements...

    And "...one-fifth say they've heard God speak to them, one-quarter say they have witnessed miraculous healings, 16 percent say they've received one and 8 percent say they pray in tongues..."

    Welcome to the United States of Superstitia...
  • Lyman
    This is what happens when you have a government
    that encourages stupid people to breed. But that
    makes sense. The more stupid they are, the more
    they will vote for the same old crap.
  • libertate
    Wow. American's are predominately Christian and don't worship at the alter of Gore and his great money laundering fraud known as AGW. I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
  • mollycanadian
    Well, I guess you southerns haven't seen real film of real polar bears eating real polar bear cubs because the real ice on the Hudson Bay has not really frozen yet due to real warm temperatures which means the real polar bears (sans guardian angels, me thinks) can't hunt real seals. This has never been seen or heard of before so you can't say it's a coincidence. Who's in the state of denial?
  • hmmmm
    that is not true. it is well established knowledge that male polar bears cannibalize cubs. all male bears do it. all big cats do it. the theory has been it is to bring the females into heat because they do not ovulate while nursing.

    this is nothing new despite the spin that it is.
  • mollycanadian
    Another piece of information... The body condition of the western Hudson Bay polar bear has been declining for almost 30 years. The average break-up of the sea ice in western Hudson Bay is three weeks earlier than it was 30 years ago. Now, MAYBE, this isn't "causal" but it certainly suggests something.
  • hmmmm
    oh, agreed. any change from equilibrium means something shifted. i was not suggesting there isn't something going on, i was only saying that cannibalism is not new.
  • mollycanadian
    Not true? What's your evidence? I live south of Churchill and this is what I know.

    When other food is unavailable, polar bears eat reindeer, small rodents, seabirds, ducks, fish, eggs, vegetation (including kelp), berries, and human garbage. Churchill has a problem...some of the bears come and eat domestic pets but mostly garbage.

    This from the news:
    According to scientists, eight cases of mature male polar bears eating cubs have been reported this year in Churchill. Four cases were reported to Manitoba Conservation and four to Environment Canada.

    Tour guide John Gunter said: "A big male polar bear separated a young cub from its mother..and after the big bear left, she still tried to take care of it."

    One theory for the cannibalism is that climate change is melting the bears' Arctic hunting ground forcing them to survive on land for longer and hence leading the starving animals to turn on their own for food.

    Retired Environment Canada biologist Ian Stirling says evidence suggests cubs are being killed for food, not just so the male can mate with the mother.
    He told CBC news that the nearby Hudson Bay sea ice, which the bears use to get the seals they need to fatten up for winter, is not appearing until weeks later than it used to.

    Is this still not true? Tour guides and biologists are spinning?
  • hmmmm
  • hmmmm
    i should clarify, when i said not true, i meant it was not true that polar bear cannibalism has not been seen or heard of before.
  • mollycanadian
    Sorry, you didn't send a link.
  • hmmmm
  • mollycanadian
    That was very interesting, thanks! The carrying capacity of the western Hudson Bay polar bear is thought to be between 1000 - 1200. They estimate the polar bear population to be just under 1000. Looks like carrying capacity isn't the problem.

    Because the ice melts sooner in the spring (global warming, you decide) polar bears have 3 weeks longer to fatten up for the winter - a big problem when they are land-locked on the western coast of Hudson Bay. The ice should freeze up mid-October or third week of October. It's just now freezing up. Scientists from the University of Alberta have noted that the sea ice freeze up is also getting progressively later.

    What is causing the ice to melt sooner and freeze later?
  • mollycanadian
    Understood. What I'm trying to suggest is that there may not be undisputable evidence that this is caused by global warming BUT there are certain facts (and they ARE facts) that suggest a link. Here are the two facts:
    1. The body condition of the western Hudson Bay polar bear has been declining for almost 30 years.
    2. The average break-up of the sea ice in western Hudson Bay is three weeks earlier than it was 30 years ago.
    Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.
  • hmmmm
    My evidence comes from decades of being interested in environmental issues and the natural world and studying it. male predators kill cubs, especially cubs that are not theirs. here is a 1999 paper by the Arctic Institute of North America showing that males killing cubs for food has been observed as far back as 1970.
    http://pubs.aina.ucalgary.ca/arctic/Arctic52-3-...
  • Dr. N
    What is so curious about the "deniers" is their apparent duplicitous attitudes about science. If their doctor should tell them that they have cancer, they will beg, BEG for the best treatment that science can offer. When that exact, same peer-reviewed scientific method that developed cures for disease concludes that the atmosphere is in trouble, suddenly it is "junk science", or a hoax, or some such drivel. You can't have it both ways. If climate research is "junk", then don't bother ever asking for antibiotics, or chemo, or even a root canal, because that science must be a "hoax", too. It is the SAME method that roots out false hypotheses, to develop the truth, in ALL science. In fact, that is the very DEFINITION of science.
  • Disenfranchised
    When Cap & Trade and Carbon Taxes roll over America and make us all peasants groveling to whatever mega corporations rule the day....don't complain.

    When we're eating road kill for food because the GDP sinks and hundreds of millions are fighting for jobs....don't complain.

    You AGWers might get EXACTLY what you want. When you do, don't complain....and don't cry...crying emits more CO2...and we all now know that is POISON!!!! Poison I say!!!!
  • thx1138a
    .
    Regressive, Reality-Challenged, Heartland Yanks Show That Faith-Based Living Really Works

    -- Wars, Torture, MIC, Bailouts, Homeless, WealthCare, Obesity, Violence ... We're #1! --

    -- Thank God Our God > Their God, And Our Angels > Their 72 Virgins --
    .
  • http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/08/the-smoki...

    This is a great site, well worth reading if you want to learn more about the "dark side" of the global warming alarmists. Data manipulation, bad science things like that. Of course, if you're a good liberal, you'll steer clear lest your belief system somehow become corrupted by reality.
  • howiebledsoe
    God was created by humans.
    global warming is only partly created by humans.
    Nature plays a role in creating some of the effects of global warming.
    Nature plays a decisive role in creating humans.
    So, if nature created humans, and both create global warming, oh, god... I´m getting REALLY confused.
    I think it´s Miller time.......
  • kiboshki
    .
    Oh no... I understand. It's all so clear now!

    GOD CREATED GLOBAL WARMING!
    .
  • donofcali
    Firm evidence of the high degree of ignorance of the average American. They're clearly stupid enough to vote Palin in on 2012.

    Who would've anticipated that the 21rst century would bring on the demise of Enlightenment? (At least in our falling empire).
  • hmmmm
    Actually, the people that like Palin are neither stupid nor ignorant. They see exactly what the rest of us see, that is what they want. Its like Guatanamo, the majority of us want it closed because people are being tortured, the others that want it kept open want it kept open so the torturing can continue.
  • donofcali
    You don't speak for me. I don't see what I want to see. I see what is.

    If you don't think that people who like Palin are stupid, then you yourself are stupid.
  • hmmmm
    "I don't see what I want to see. I see what is.
    If you don't think that people who like Palin are stupid, then you yourself are stupid."

    your post speaks for itself.
  • kiboshki
    .
    Fat lot of good those guardian angels have done. With so many around, you'd think they could fix global warming, health care, poverty, war, cancer, and all that.

    Oh, that's right, silly me! The very notion of a guardian angel is a mythic expression of selfishness and greed on the believer's part. Like American exceptionalism, but with wings and a halo.
    .
  • Robert
    Vast quantities of Americans are not dumb because they believe in God or angels. They're just plain ignorant. They don't know where anything is or anything about much of it. Magazines in the U.S. don't sell well with international news items on the cover unless it's about U.S. wars. Yay, team! I've lived abroad and there are ignorant people everywhere, but we've got much more than our share for how advanced we are technologically.

    Not believing in God because you never caught Him/Her hiding behind a tree IS ALSO dumb. The inability, or worse, the lack of any desire to discriminate intelligently between good and bad information with objective criteria is even dumber. So let's get over the dumb belief kick and just look at how informed people are and how intelligently they process information.

    What they believe or not about a Supreme and Conscious Intelligence at the basis of existence is irrelevant here. Whether their motivation is to feel comfortable with what they already believe and seek only information that reinforces these beliefs or actually seek for valid answers to the issues they face in life is the real bottom line. Unfortunately, most people do the first. They just seek reinforcement for their comfortable beliefs. This leads to the irrational screaming mentioned already whenever somebody tries to rip away their security blankets.
  • kiboshki
    .
    But the problem is that being "plain ignorant" is extremely dangerous to our future.

    There is, in fact, nothing wrong with not believing in God just because you don't see him behind a tree. This is simply logic.

    Nor is there really anything terribly wrong with believing in God because you DON'T see him hiding behind trees. This is called faith, and it works for a lot of people.

    The problem is that when people start applying this same reasoning process to their politics-- and therefore the policies that affect me. Even worse, is when even weaker-minded people simply take someone else's word for it.

    This is why we have such nasty politics in this country: because some guy in a trailer in Alabama is more worried about a couple dudes getting married in San Francisco than about health care for his pregnant wife and kids. He'll vote "guns, God and gays" rather than for minimum wages, health care, or public school funding. In other words, he'll vote against his own best interests. And why? Because his pastor, or Rush, or Beck told him to.

    And when that guy votes that way, completely devoid of critical thinking, I am affected by the resulting bad policies.

    So, no, I have no compunction against mocking thoughtless sheep like that. To those who actually do put forth the effort to mull over God, and have come to a conclusion based on what's in their hearts and minds, fantastic; that guy probably has put equal thought into his vote. I won't argue with that.

    But all the others who believe just because? Well, they're idiots.

    And they're destroying the world we live in together.
    .
  • Robert
    "But all the others who believe just because? Well, they're idiots.And they're destroying the world we live in together."

    Absolutely, Flag. However, the U.S. is meeting its come-uppance in the world. We've been playing dirty pool around the world with the CIA at the behest of the corporate world that actually runs a good part of our government for ages. We're not destined to run everything forever. Our days of empire are going to end, just as they did with Great Britain. Americans who confuse patriotism with the rah-team mindset that says we have to rule the world don't like this. They're going to find themselves very disappointed. Great Britain has not ceased to exist because they don't own the world and run tons of colonies. We won't either.
  • donofcali
    Those guardian angels only guard the rich. For the rich are the most holy in His eyes.
  • Steve
    Congrats Rawstory, insulting Christians while still trying to promote a fraud.

    ...and no, I don't believe in angles, Christianity, or man-made global warming.
  • Scuby
    I'm guessing you probably think the moon landings were faked too right? Calling christians on their inability to accept modern science is not an insult...It is simply confronting them with scientifically proven reality as opposed to mythical idol worshipping. Before "God" came along, it was Zeus, Athena, Mars, Poseidon, etc.
  • Valis
    So you're too obtuse to believe in angles Steve?
  • kiboshki
    .
    Evidence of fraud. Still waiting....

    k thx bye :)
    .
  • Steve
    Hey, did ya hear they hacked into the CRU servers and discovered a fraud? Where you been dude, or are you just in denial of reality.
  • Savantster
    .
    I heard "thousands of emails" were acquired, and 2 phrases taken out of context by non-scientists about scientific practices were used to beat an entire body of evidence.

    There has been no "evidence" of "fraud" or a "hoax", just some idiots screaming about things they don't understand because they .. well.. don't understand. Kind of like a 3 year old screaming about how you're poisoning him for making him eat spinach.

    The "reality" is, bad data was discounted and "better" data was used as a tiny portion of an explanation of a much bigger picture, and some out there seem to think that means the entire fabric of reality should be summarily dismissed. Who's in denial?
    .
  • greg789
    perfect response savantster. The vast majority of climatologist around the world support the position that global warming is man made. Of course there are always a few scientist, following in the foot steps of the tobacco scientists, who will take money from the polluting industries to say it is a myth.
  • kiboshki
    .
    Yeah, I heard.

    And I ask the question again: where's the evidence?

    Yes, some organization has a political opinion. So does ACLU and FOX and the city council of Timbuktu. Big deal, people have opinions, we all knew that.

    Show me the actual manipulation of data (not the comments out of a program. I mean wtf?!?). Also explain why, if their results are so wrong, other organizations independent of CRU have verified their results (eg, NASA, NOAA).

    When this is explained, I'll back down. Until then, though, basic eyeball evidence and logic tell me that GW-- and likely, at least to some degree-- AGW are valid concerns.
    .
  • Steve
    Wait, are you asking why the government agencies are verifying the fraud that they a part of perpetrating? Don't be so gullible McFly.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03...
  • kiboshki
    .
    You've pointed to another "debate" of the exact same low quality as the CRU email hack one. It's speculation and counter arguments on the part of known partisans in the matter. Accusations are not evidence, at least not in this country.

    You're still skirting the issue:

    We're all still waiting on the evidence of fraud and/or data manipulation.
    .
  • greg2009
    Give me a freaking break! Talk of GW being a fraud is nothing more than conspriacy theories spun by people that don't understand science (like James Inhofe and the rest of the conservatives out there) out to manipulate the public for their own private gain. If I have to choose between the claims of scientists the world over and the conspiracy theories of some dumbass politician like James Inhofe and the suckers that vote for them, or the lies coming from George Will, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, etc., ect., I will side the the scientists every time.
  • malikk
    al gore is a fraud and a shister
  • Whit
    1. Your evidence?

    2. You're aware that all Gore does is report on science done by others, right? Nothing about the conclusions depends on Gore. Most of us convinced by the science source it directly, and don't concern ourselves with Gore's particular summary. So why does it bother the Foxheads so much that Al Gore exists?
  • jlewd
    Learn to spell, "moran." It's "scheister," or "shyster," both spellings probably from the German, "scheisser." You can look up the meaning for yoursel: I'm tired of doing your homework.
  • luschnig
    This is no joke. The conservatives are nothing more than a bunch of superstitious, tea bag waving, fetus worshipers who are impervious to facts and ration argument. They poison our democracy. Because for democracy to function the participants must be informed (not opinionated) and reasonable (not screaming).
  • luschnig
    This is no joke. The conservatives are nothing more than a bunch of superstitious, tea bag waving, fetus worshipers who are impervious to facts and ration argument. They poison our democracy. Because for democracy to function the participants must be informed (not opinionated) and reasonable (not screaming).
  • felinetta
    Why doesn't this surprise me? Americans are not always the most informed people. I'm sure that
    Bill Maher is saying that this proves his point once again that Americans are not that bright.
  • CNC
    While polling is somewhat unreliable, it is not very surprising in this case regardless.
  • Silent
    Also the article said that more americans believe in angels than anthropogenic global warming. It said nothing of stupidity.

    To assume that americans are stupid because they believe in angels is baseless given the current information.
  • Whit
    You're kidding? "Given the current information," as you say, what basis at all is there to believe in angels? Is there more than to believe in faeries? The Easter Bunny? To believe without evidence is ... something of stupidity.
  • rickpetes
    I didn't say most Americans are idiots for believing in mythical beings; I just said most Americans are idiots (or at least mentally challenged). Look up the polls on US literacy, knowledge of history, geography, philosophy, religion, etc., and you'll find that Americans perform the worst of any of the economically advanced countries and worse than a majority of those not so advanced. That's called evidence,
  • Silent
    Ok, this article and even the survey looks like it may have a skeptical philosophical slant. That bias brings the survey into question. For instance, who was surveyed? Where were the questions asked? What was the demographic? I all those questions play a role in this article.

    Also just because person A fails to see an event by person B doesn't mean it's factitious. That being said, neither religion or science has all the answers. As a result this article implies a logically flawed argument.
  • poopypants
    Someone help me!!!

    I'm trapped in an Insane Asylum with a bunch of idiots that constantly babble about an invisible 'GOD', this 'GOD' supposedly created the universe, is going to give give them eternal life in a super peaceful place called 'heaven', and save their souls, or some such nonsense.....

    I can't take it anymore.
  • felinetta
    Yes, you are so right. It does drives me crazy. Sometimes I feel like I'm trapped in a Hitchcock movie. I got a mug from Cafe Press that has the evolution of religion starting with kids believing in the Easter Buny, than Santa Claus and then god.
  • rickpetes
    Surprise! Most Americans are idiots.
  • jlewd
    And the reason most people in America are idiots? Here's one:

    http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

    More proof of American unexceptionalism:

    http://moronswithsigns.blogspot.com/

    People in this country are the absolute fucking dumbest morons on the planet. Makes ya proud to be one of 'em, doesn't it?
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