Pat Robertson: Islam isn’t a religion; treat Muslims like fascists

By Daniel Tencer
Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 -- 11:58 am
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Conservative commentators are ratcheting up anti-Muslim rhetoric in the wake of last week's Fort Hood massacre, with televangelist Pat Robertson leading the way with a declaration that Islam is "not a religion," but a "political system" bent on destroying all the world's governments.

In a commentary on his show, The 700 Club, Robertson noted that the alleged shooter in the Fort Hood massacre, Nidal Malik Hasan, had come to the attention of authorities prior to the rampage by emailing a radical cleric and trying to contact Al Qaeda.

"Nobody wanted to go after him because of political correctness," Robertson said on Monday. "We just don't talk about somebody's quote 'religion,' even if the religion involved beheading infidels and pouring boiling oil down their throats."

Robertson said Islam should be treated like a fringe political movement.

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"If we don't stop covering up what Islam is ... Islam is a violent -- I was going to say religion, but it's not a religion, it's a political system, it's a violent political system bent on the overthrow of the governments of the world and world domination," Robertson said. "You're dealing with not a religion, you're dealing with a political system, and I think we should treat it as such, and treat its adherents as such as we would members of the communist party, members of some fascist group."

Robertson pointed the finger of blame at the US military, suggesting that the families of the 12 killed and 30 wounded have a strong case for suing the Pentagon.

"Those in the Army should be held to account for the fact they let this man loose," Robertson said.

This is not the first time that Robertson has aired controversial views about an act of violence on American soil. In 2001, shortly after the 9/11 attacks, Robertson agreed with fellow preacher Jerry Falwell that the attacks were God's punishment for the US allowing abortion and homosexuality.

"I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America ... I point the finger in their face and say you helped this happen," Falwell said, to which Robertson replied: "I totally concur."

Both evangelists issued apologies for their statements later.

ORLY TAITZ: 'BLIND OBEDIENCE' TO MILITARY CAUSED FORT HOOD MASSACRE

But Robertson's theme this week -- that the military is to blame for not preventing the massacre -- has been echoed by numerous right-wing pundits. As David Weigel reported at the Washington Independent, "birther" lawyer Orly Taitz is arguing that the Fort Hood massacre is evidence that soldiers should be allowed to disobey orders.

Taitz is the lawyer who has spearheaded a number of largely unsuccessful lawsuits challenging Barack Obama's legitimacy as president on the argument that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States. She was behind the release of the now-discredited "Kenyan birth certificate" for the president.

In an appeal of a federal court's decision to dismiss one of her lawsuits, Taitz wrote:

Recent terrorist incident at Fort Hood has given this question paramount importance. This order has advocated blind obedience by the members of the military. If someone were to have common sense, brains and strength of character to challenge allegiance of Nidal Malik Hasan in court, after he made numerous anti-American and antimilitary statements, maybe 12 young boys wouldn’t be 6 feet under today, maybe 12 mothers and 12 fathers wouldn’t had their hearts ripped out of their chests and torn apart.

And the author of a recent book claiming that the US's largest Muslim advocacy group is trying to plant "spies" on Capitol Hill now says the Fort Hood massacre proves it's time for a "backlash" against Muslims.

In an interview with FamilySecurityMatters.org, Dave Gaubatz, co-author of Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Seeking to Islamize America, said it's time to make a "bonfire" out of the terrorist materials he says are circulating in mosques.

"This was not an isolated incident," Gaubatz told the Web site:

Maj. Hasan (allegedly) did what he was taught. Politicians, Muslims, and law enforcement are concerned about a 'backlash' against Muslims. Now is the time for a professional and legal backlash against the Muslim Brotherhood and their leaders. ... If Muslims do not want a backlash, then I would recommend a “house cleaning.” Stack every Saudi, al Qaeda, Pakistani, Taliban, Hamas, and Muslim Brotherhood piece of material from their mosque and have a bonfire. Tell the American, Jewish, and Muslim community this hatred will no longer be allowed in their mosques.

Last month, four Republican House representatives called for an investigation into claims in Gaubatz's book that the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the largest Muslim advocacy group in Washington, is trying to use the congressional intern program as a way to plant "Muslim spies" on Capitol Hill. That notion was met with derision and ridicule from CAIR, which said that Gaubatz used his son to steal private documents from the group, and that the documents showed nothing more than typical lobbying activities by CAIR.

On Monday, a federal judge ordered Gaubatz to remove some of the 12,000 pages of CAIR documents he had posted to his Web site. The judge supported CAIR's claims that the documents were "unlawfully obtained."

The following video was broadcast on The 700 Club, November 9, 2009, and uploaded to the Web by MediaMatters.

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  • alverant
    "If we don't stop covering up what Christianity is ... Christianity is a violent -- I was going to say religion, but it's not a religion, it's a political system, it's a violent political system bent on the overthrow of the governments of the world and world domination," Robertson said. "You're dealing with not a religion, you're dealing with a political system, and I think we should treat it as such, and treat its adherents as such as we would members of the communist party, members of some fascist group."

    There you go Pat, fixed it for you.
  • Funny that Orly Taint was in Israel right after her birther case was thrown out, anyone else find that EXTREMELY INTERESTING AND WORTHY OF FURTHER INVESTIGATION???

    Then, she reappears to bash Muslims.

    Hmmmmmmmmmm.....................

    Listen CAREFULLY to the beginning of this video, it says "joining me now is Orly Taitz FROM TEL AVIV"...EXCUSE ME??? Why is she in Israel????????????

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOYVr7OKpV0

    That BLOWS MY MIND! That no one (but ME) has questioned why she is in Israel!!!!!! Absolutely blows my mind!!!!!!!!
  • yvonneo
    I read recently in the Jerusalem Post that Representative Eric Cantor (R-VA) was in Israel very recently as well.

    "The possibility is there," US House of Representatives Minority Whip Eric Cantor told The Jerusalem Post, speaking about the prospect that Congress's support for Israel could be ebbing.

    There have been incidences of late that do indicate that we have challenges on that front, and I'm very committed to doing everything I can to make sure that Congress remains Israel's strongest ally in the quest for what it needs in terms of its security."

    "Cantor, who spoke to the Post before addressing the Jewish Federations of North America's annual General Assembly, did not specify the nature of the incidents, but he did raise questions about the White House's approach to Israel and the wider Middle East."

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename...

    And here's an earlier article from the Haaretz regarding Cantor's visit to Israel:

    "He says he decided to head the delegation of congressmen to visit Israel this month to counteract the "alarming" line that the U.S. administration under President Barack Obama has adopted toward Israel."

    This is an addition (I've edited)

    ""I'm very alarmed," Cantor adds when asked about the state of this relationship. "I think it starts with the White House. That's why I'm feeling very strongly about going to Israel next week. To communicate to Benjamin Netanyahu's government where Congress is."

    http://haaretz.com/hasen/pages/natashaBlog.jhtm...

    Why is Cantor reporting to Netanyahu?
  • Elim
    A lot of people questioned it, Big Dan. Just not anyone in the mainstream media.
  • philedrifter
    Probably because people don't keep tabs on people they think are batshit crazy.

    I think this bitch is batshit crazy, i'm not gonna waste any of my time trying to figure out where she is every second of every day.

    She probably went to Israel to avoid paying that fine the judge levied on her b/c of her frivolous lawsuit. That, and she's probably thinking Israel won't extradite her back to the US to face charges.
  • PrissyPatriot
    Riddle me this Pat Robertson:

    1) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem, is my neighbours, they claim the odour is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?

    2) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

    3) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

    4) Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to The Welsh but not The Scots. Can you clarify?

    5) I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. I have reported him to the Police but they seem little interested, they say that the CPS would not follow up on it. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

    6) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don�t agree. Can you settle this?

    7) Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
  • Elim
    1) Kill your neighbors.
    2) Depends what country you're in, and if she's in poor, fair, good, or excellent condition.
    3) Demand sex from the woman. If she is menstruating, she'll tell you. If the woman is your wife, mark you calendar to keep track of her cycles.
    4) The Welsh are a dirty lot, but can be cleaned up enough to be slaves. The Scots are great engineers, and we need them. They would not perform their great engineering feats for us if they were enslaved.
    5) Yes, kill your neighbor immediately. God will forgive you.
    6) Both of you must eat oysters, then have sex together. Afterwards, discuss the matter again, and see if either of you has changed his mind.
    7) No wiggle room. Stay out of church forevermore.
  • philedrifter
    Yeah, I stumbled across that too. Years ago.
  • Scuby
    Orly Taitz says " If someone were to have common sense, brains and strength of character to challenge allegiance of Nidal Malik Hasan in court, after he made numerous anti-American and antimilitary statements, maybe 12 young boys wouldn’t be 6 feet under today"

    Well Ms. Taitz....let me just change the words just a tad, and see if you agree or disagree??

    " If someone were to have common sense, brains and strength of character to challenge allegiance of George Bush and Dick Cheney in court, after they made numerous illegal and knucklehead decisons sending us into Iraq, maybe 4000+ young boys and 100,000+ Iraqis wouldn’t be 6 feet under today"
  • yoshimum
    One does one thing have to do with the other?
  • alverant
    No war in Iraq, fewer shell shocked soldiers killing themselves and/or others. Are the dots that hard to connect?
  • nader paul kucinich gravel
    yoshimum;

    The trolls will soon lose their paychecks.

    Why do most trolls have IP's out of Israel?
    Do you think this will make us start & fight more wars for you?!

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    Kucinich Kaptur Grayson Gravel
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  • Actually most of them are volunteers. this is from the circa GULAG GAZA ATTACK. it is straight from haaretz, so no one can say this is made up.

    http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056648.html
  • yvonneo
    I read today in Haaretz an article about marginalizing Jews that dare to criticize Israel. It'll be interesting to see what kind of propaganda starts spewing from that part of the world to accomplish that goal.
  • They do more than " marginalize " them. This would include jews in Israel that are for gay rights, jews marrying non jews, speaking against the illegal settlements, and speaking up against the atrocities they have committed in Lebannon, Gulag Gaza, and against the Palestinians in general. Yet, they want to be known as a democracy. They are the persecuted that have become the persecutors.
  • Elim
    How can you see anyone's IP addresses?
  • nader paul kucinich gravel
    Linux WireShark
  • yoshimum
    It obviously does not work since I am SoCal.
  • m3t
    Considering religion is a psychological illness of indoctinated delusion, saying Islam isn't a religion should be considered a compliment to Islam.

    As for Pat Robertson... I guess to him a true religion is one that engages in Crusades, drags the world into dark ages and has a history of sadism and molestation.

    Someone really needs to tell Pat about Gilgamesh (Noah's Ark), Mithra (25th December, Sunday day of rest, etc.) and about the stories told by ancients cultures that attributed personalities to celestial bodies so that the knowledge of the stars movements and relationships could be taught down through the generations.

    Christianity is a re-hash of stories and symbolism that predate it by many years, the similarities are too strong and too many to be mere coincidence and anyone objectively investigating this can see this easily.

    Christianity is as fraudulent as any other religion... they are ALL bullshit.
  • philedrifter
    For 1000 years, the Catholic Church refused to teach anyone to read...UNLESS they were willing to enter the church's seminary, where they would help the church recruit new members.

    The roman catholic church WANTED people to be stupid so they would be reliant on the church. And you're absolutely right, the catholic church caused the dark ages and inquisition.

    You should really check out the book 'You Will Die: The Burden of Modern Taboos' or at least read about it at suburra.com . I was reading about the history of religion and it's just fascinating. Like the fact that people think that children are somehow innocent and do not have any sexual desires until they are 'tainted' by someone older telling them about it.

    People have been f*cking for all eternity, that's called survival. And now we're living longer than we used to, but back in the day, women (girls) started having kids at 13, 14 years of age and just kept having them whenever they could, because of the high mortality rate. (I'm talking, basically, cave-people.) They had to have as many children as possible in order to guarantee they could survive, and once they reached the age of 5 or so then they could start helping their parents forage for food, etc.
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