True US unemployment rate stands at 17.5%

By Stephen C. Webster
Saturday, November 7th, 2009 -- 1:06 pm
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jobs True US unemployment rate stands at 17.5%According to figures released by the Department of Labor, the real marker of American unemployment stands at 17.5 percent -- a figure which takes into account under-employed workers and those who have not sought work in the last four weeks, according to a published report.

"If statistics went back so far, the measure would almost certainly be at its highest level since the Great Depression," reporter David Leonhardt wrote in Friday's edition of The New York Times.

The report continued: "In all, more than one out of every six workers — 17.5 percent — were unemployed or underemployed in October. The previous recorded high was 17.1 percent, in December 1982."

While official unemployment statistics were not available during the Great Depression, Department of Labor economists working with the Times estimated that some 30 percent of the U.S. workforce was put out during that period, the report added.

President Barack Obama called the figures "sobering," responding to widespread media accounts that placed the figure just over 10 percent, noting the department's calculation of workers who are actively searching for jobs.

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"To that end, my economic team is looking at ideas such as additional investments in our aging roads and bridges, incentives to create jobs and steps to increase the flow of credit to small businesses," the president said.

Fred Dickson at DA Davidson & Co. said the report "continues to point to an economy that is struggling, but the picture is not nearly as dire as seen at the beginning of the year."

"Slowly, the trajectory is improving, but, given the huge number of unemployed and underemployed, our view of a very slow economic recovery in 2010 and 2011 remains very much in place," he added. "This report will not do much to encourage the Fed to raise rates anytime soon."

The number of unemployed persons increased to 15.7 million. Since the start of the recession in December 2007, the number of unemployed has risen by 8.2 million, the Labor Department said.

The world's largest economy grew at a seasonally adjusted 3.5 percent annual rate in the July-September period. The increase was the first since the second quarter of 2008.

For the US economic community, the recession will not be over until it is declared by a research panel, National Bureau of Economic Research, recognized as the official arbiter of business cycles.

President Obama on Friday signed a measure to extend unemployment benefits and enact a new tax credit for home buyers.

With AFP.

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  • Military Momma
    Well the Mexican man that mows my lawn is still working everyday and so are the Mexican cleaning ladies at the hospital. There's just not enough HIGH-PAYING jobs for the lazy white Americans to go around.

    Or hey, I hear the military is ALWAYS hiring. Have a job and free health care, and free housing to boot! Oh wait, that's socialism though...
  • sharonsj
    Yeah, been reading elsewhere that true unemployment is closer to 22%. It will go up after Xmas when sales suck and more stores close, and more people lose their jobs. Our economy is fueled by two things (1) consumerism and (2) Wall Street. Consumerism accounts for 70%, so you know we are screwed. Wall Street, which manipulates the stock market and lies about the numbers anyway, keeps the money for those at the top (there is no such thing as trickle down, unless you mean they are pissing on us), so they are screwing us. We cannot win either way. And Congress, which is nothing but a bunch of corporate whores, has no intention of doing the right thing. We need a second American revolution.
  • i'm far from an apologist and our president lost my vote with his f.i.s.a. acrobatics to assure big biz he wasn't commie mole. however, the vile vitriol i hear commonly on america's bought and paid for media has me on his side. i recommend reading "what obama is up against" by russ baker over at truthout to prepare yourselves for the fights and dangers ahead ...
  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi
    PROPAGANDA MEDIA
    Owned by who?
  • kasinca
    That would mean it was close to fifteen percent when Obama took office. Go figure. Some of us who have been out here for over a year already know this stuff. Why is the media so far behind?
  • theghostpony
    Stop.The.Phucking.Offshoring.Obama.

    Every US company that still offshores in today's economic climate is an enemy of the state. They are actively working again US economic interests.
  • Savantster
    .
    Since "unemployment insurance" started in 1935 in _response_ to the Depression, the figures of "unemployed" back then aren't marred by the current manipulated figures.. THEN it was "people who want jobs but can't find them", today it is "people receiving payments from the insurance [which is a time limited plan]", it does not count those still looking for work but not on the official roles [also excluding those kicked off early, and those not eligible for various reasons, like employers LYING about the termination so they don't get a financial hit for dumping employees].

    We have no "official" measure of "real" unemployment in America because it would make us look bad if we did (the numbers would always be much higher than what we currently claim).
  • jaspervonspatula
    Maybe in a year or two Obama will get around to considering this problem.
  • imwc
    all the numbers are scewered, and have been for decades...try 20,000 soldiers dead since that monkey started these wars...
  • WRosencratz
    "try 20,000 soldiers dead since that monkey started these wars..."

    I find it highly offensive that you would use such an epithet to describe the highest office holder in the land. Oh, and in case you didn't know, it was Bush and NOT Obama who deployed the troops to protect our freedoms after 9-11.

    - WRosencratz
  • imwc
    9/11 was a false flag, inside job!...controlled demolition...us military grade thermate all over the rubble...do some reading...watch some films...they did it...and obummer is protecting that monkey and his followers...!!!
  • Elim
    That's right, imwc, 20,000+ dead, but we are only told of those killed 'on the battlefield'. Anyone who died later from battle injuries are not counted, and a percentage of IED deaths are called 'vehicle accidents' murders are friendly fire or suicides and suicides are 'under investigation'. The true numbers of dead as a direct result of these wars is over 20,000. http://www.tbrnews.org/
  • Turnip
    The broadest, and in my reality, the more accurate number is just under 22%, which is what John Williams is publishing. The figure is calculated by using and extrapolating the older measures, U6 and taking into account people that just don't bother to look anymore.
    www.shadowstats.com
    If we allow Mulit-national Corps buy and write our legislation for their own benefit, this is what we get.
    22% unemployment is just 3 ticks under the First Great Depression. What will this do the budget shortfall that is already at a record high. The feedback loop, which is jobs driven, is becoming quite evident.
  • Elim
    Don't you all get it? No one cares about these horrible unemployment figures. There's been a massacre at Fort Hood!
  • captainfrank
    That dude is my hero. I wish more soldiers would attack their own bases.
  • Ted. S
    Thanks Obama's stimulus package that has done NOTHING. I agree with the rest, but don't have blinders on
  • edwards_com
    It created real jobs & kept some people in their homes but did not get to the root of the problem.
  • Savantster
    .
    done nothing but put twice as much cash back in the pockets of the middle class as what the Shrub did. And if you don't spend money, no one does anything, right? so if the "private sector" isn't looking to have things done, the public sector paying for things to be done means, by default, some jobs that were going to be lost were not. That's something, not nothing.

    If you want to fault Obama for something, try faulting him for failing to fix the broken banking system when he had a chance.. fault him for backing out of the Public Option while still mandating insurance.. fault him for failing to pull out of Iraq and for not shutting down Gitmo yet.
  • truthops2010
    Guest....I would add to your list Bill Clinton, who campaigned for president advocating NAFTA, GATT, and the WTO. He won that election, and happily signed away the middle class as manufacturing started moving overseas. The re-training for high tech jobs promised those losing their manufacturing jobs became moot as those jobs were moved to India, etc. I blame certainly everyone you listed, from Bush to Ayn Rand, but don't forget the corporatist Centrist Democrats in the list of blame. It is those same Clintonian DLC Centrist Democrats who have lined up to make damn sure that no single payer health care amendment will ever even be debated in the House or Senate, and who have demanded a public mandate in any health care bill, that will force by law everyone to buy private insurance or be fined. Lose your job where your employer helps pay your insurance, your car breaks down, you are too strapped to buy private insurance which by 2013 will be much higher, you go 6 months trying to struggle your way back, and then at the end of the year a fine arrives in the mail. And I'm openly wondering, is it going to be a pro-rated amount? Will it be a wage garnishment? How is this going to work? Has any Representative or Senator advocating this filled in these blanks? "Daddy, I'm hungry and need some new shoes for school" "Sorry honey, once I get these wage garnishments off my back, then maybe we can get you those new shoes, but right now I need to take you to that free health clinic 300 miles away, so get ready." This is the kind of America we are looking forward to...pardon my cheesy dramatization.
  • Rico Suave Bolla
    Let's not forget Bubba Clinton approved of Glass/Stegall elimination which allowed taxpayer backed banks to gamble like only investment banks had previously.
  • edwards_com
    But it was meaningless until BUSH ended all the watch dogging & the freedom was a abused & expanded upon in 2002..
  • malikk
    what a wonderful world huh
  • OldAtlantic
    This comes from 3rd world immigration. The defaulted mortgages are 3rd worlders. The H-1b's on Wall Street from India and China say there is no risk on the securities and the top bankers take huge bonuses claiming its profit. Corruption before the fall.
  • Savantster
    .
    at least we can toss a broken record in the trash, where it belongs.. here we're stuck listening to you over an over.. if only you were rooted in reality instead of just some heinous screeching noise.
  • edwards_com
    Amen
  • Name
    Thanks Bush! Thanks Neocons! Thanks Heritage Foundation! Thanks American Enterprise Institute! Thanks Reagan! Thanks Corporations! Thanks Pentagon! Thanks Phil Gramm! Thanks Alan Greenspan! Thanks Ayn Rand! Thanks...
  • R3ALITYCHECK
    your an idiot.
  • rorytalbot
    And don't forget to thank Obama, the corporatist shill. It's amazing that the "Democrats" (ehem!) are using the same failed Trickle Down Economics (in the form of Bailouts to wealthy Wall Street firms and Banks). What happened to O's promise that the White House would bar the door to lobbyists? They dictate policy. Geithner is a piece of corporatist scum.
  • edwards_com
    But the Conservatives will STILL blame OBAMA for a Recession that officially started the last quarter of 2007 & a DEPRESSION that started at midnight 9/15/08 when Lehman, et all collapsed.
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