Lindsey Graham: I ‘hope and pray’ House health reform bill fails

By Stephen C. Webster
Sunday, November 8th, 2009 -- 8:42 pm
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healthcareprotester Lindsey Graham: I hope and pray House health reform bill failsAppearing on CBS program Face the Nation on Sunday, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) warned the House health reform legislation that passed Saturday night is a "disaster" for private choice, adding that he hopes and prays Democrats' reforms do not become law.

"The House bill is dead on arrival in the Senate," he said. "Just look at how it passed: it passed 220-215. ... You had 39 Democrats vote against the bill. They come from red states. Moderate Democrats from swing districts, they bailed out on the bill. It was a bill by liberals, for liberals."

However, one of the most well-known liberals in the U.S. House of Representatives, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, joined Republicans in refusing to vote for the bill.

"instead of working toward the elimination of for-profit insurance, H.R. 3962 would put the government in the role of accelerating the privatization of health care," Kucinich said, according to a press release by his office. "In H.R. 3962, the government is requiring at least 21 million Americans to buy private health insurance from the very industry that causes costs to be so high, which will result in at least $70 billion in new annual revenue, much of which is coming from taxpayers. This inevitably will lead to even more costs, more subsidies, and higher profits for insurance companies — a bailout under a blue cross."

Pressed by host Bob Schieffer, Graham did not specify whether or not he would join a threatened filibuster of the Senate's health reform legislation.

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"Let me tell you why Joe [Lieberman] feels that way, and I do," he began. "The public option will destroy private health care. Nobody in this country in the insurance business can compete with a government-sponsored plan, with the government rights and benefits and politicians will never raise the premiums. It will be a death blow to private choice."

However, as Slate writer Timothy Noah noted: "A dispiriting analysis by the Congressional Budget Office [...] concluded that the Pelosi public option would charge premiums that were higher than those of its private-sector competitors, not lower, as anticipated. That's because the health reform bill, despite outlawing various cruel practices by private health insurers (rejecting customers based on pre-existing conditions, charging significantly higher premiums to individuals in high-risk demographic groups, voiding the policies of customers who get sick based on petty flaws in their paperwork), is not expected to eliminate all possible means health insurers have to avoid signing up people likely to incur high medical expenses. As a consequence, the public option will end up taking on a large proportion of people who need a great deal of medical care, thereby driving up premiums, a grim scenario anticipated months ago by Princeton sociologist Paul Starr."

The otherwise anemic public insurance option was also assailed by Senator Lieberman (I-CT) on Sunday as "unnecessary" and something that was "put forward, I’m convinced, by people who really want the government to take over all of health insurance."

"I just think the construct, out in the House and what exists in the Senate is not gonna pass and I hope and pray it doesn't 'cause it'd be a disaster for the economy and for health care," Graham concluded.

During the same program, Schieffer asked Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) if he believes Senate Democrats will have the 60 votes needed to overcome a potential filibuster staged over the public option. While he did not specifically say whether a public option would remain part of the bill, he did offer his support for it, adding: "I believe we are going to pass health care reform."

The United States has over 46 million uninsured citizens. A recent study by the American Journal of Public Health revealed that over 45,000 US citizens die each year because they do not have health insurance -- a figure higher than those killed by "terrorism, homicide, drunk driving and HIV combined," writer Holly Sklar noted.

This video is from CBS News' Face the Nation, broadcast Sunday, Nov. 8, 2009.

This video is from Fox News Sunday, broadcast Sunday, Nov. 8, 2009.

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  • soannoyedatthem
    I "hope and pray" that he loses his insurance someday, has a pre-existing condition and can't get insurance; but of course that wouldn't happen before he'd be eligible for MCare. But damn - I wish that would happen.
  • sanchosdad
    Many people wonder why senator graham is so short tempered these days. maybe i can shed some light on it.

    Senator Graham has had his fringed leather 'peek-a-boo' chaps in an absolute wad ever since he got "mr congeniality" at the August Leather Parade at the Castro in San Fransisco. he thought he was a lock to once again win "best buns" after all his hours toiling on the stairmaster. he locked himself in his basement with the stairmaster and elliptical machine every weekend starting in January. he had little more than a case of vitamin water and a Dominican towel boy named Javier to sustain him. poor Javier.
  • Sonny
    These two, Graham and Lieberman, are disgusting to the point of no longer falling into the category of "Human Being." In fact, they may be well categorized as Dan Savage's "Santorum."
  • airjackie
    Senator Graham has made it clear he's not working for the citizens of his State but he's working for the Insurance Company with his kick backs for voting NO. SC is a big unemployment rate and needs some of the Stimulus money while Graham is voting NO. Everything for Graham went down hill when McCain/Palin lost. No he's getting as much kick back money as possible and following the direction of Rush Limbaugh. As thousands of Americans even those in SC lose their homes and lives because of no insurance or denied because of pre condition, Graham say WHO CARES.
  • I hope and pray Lynsey Graham gets outed as a homosexual.
  • sanchosdad
    your wish is granted. see my above post.
  • georgehilborn
    I hope he dies from incureable cancer
  • klaatuu
    I know it's hyperbole, but really, that is very unpleasant reading.

    I don't wish anyone dead, even in jest. I wish they would wake up smarter or more honest tomorrow. I wish they would fix themselves. But not die.

    I think Graham is wrong. I think he is in the pocket of everyone except his constituents. That doesn't mean that I think he should die.

    (I'm also against the death penalty.)
  • rickpetes
    I have no problem wishing these ass hats dead. In fact, if I had the money, I'd put a bounty on these guys, the health insurance CEOs, all of Goldman Sachs and the Carlyle Group for starters.

    I am working on having a neutral Karma rating. I don't harm, and go out of my way, to be kind to non-parasitic animals, which I'm betting will counter my desire for the deaths of these parasites.
  • Savantster
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    I, too, wish they would "wisen up" and become decent people. But they won't. Why, then, should they be suffered to live if their living causes massive pain and misery at their own willful hand?

    Life is not sacred just because we're humans. Life is life. If you condone killing in any context, you condone killing period. Do you eat meat? I do.. and if I'm willing to take a life to survive, it matters little to me if it's a human life or some _other animal_ (since we're all animals).

    I think we should all try to grow, live, love, get along... but when someone goes out of their way to cause pain and misery when they don't need to, they lose their status as worthy of preserving, in my book. ALL decent humans should be protected and allowed to live their lives.. but indecent humans are a scourge; a disease; a virus on the planet that cause wanton death and destruction. And like any other virus or disease, we should strive to cure it. The first line is "treatment" (or, education in this case).. when that fails, more drastic measures are required... for example, when you get bit on the hand by a Brown Recluse, if the venom spreads to your forearm, you're losing your whole arm for the better of the entire person. Same here.. when someone goes out of their way to sow misery, you remove them to save the greater body (in this case, the planet and humanity).

    The only reason I'm against the death penalty is because of people like Ghram, corrupted vile humans that would kill innocents because they don't have the time to bother with facts or reason. I never condone killing an innocent (of a heinous crime) person.
  • luschnig
    Why is Graham trying to dictate US health policy? His goddamn racist south lost the civil war and yet he arrogantly struts through Washington yelling like he was the victor. We cannot allow him to continue to enslave us to a health care system that impoverishes us and makes us even sicker. The age of the evil plantation south is over and we must finally bury it and its overseers forever.
  • pitbullstew
    I am about sick hearing from the tag team of graham and lieberman...I give a rip less about these two, why dont they both run for pres & vp instead?
    till then enough of their snide remarks neither one carries any weight at all?
  • billfromny
    And thank God for that!
  • samhouston
    Not to worry about right winger prayers. If they were answered, we all would already be serfs of nobles on manors working for little food and bedsacks in barns.
  • brandonwinkle
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  • DCinDC
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  • DCinDC
    Lieberman has said he will defeat the Public Option.
  • douvie
    If, according to Graham, more taxpayer money is spent on healthcare for Americans, then less will be available to fight the neocons senseless wars. And why is this a bad thing?
  • an84u
    In my opinion, Little Lynsey Woolsey has repeatedly proven himself a consummate RePUKEliCUNT shithead w/his nose deeply imbedded in John McStink's butt. Fortunately he does not have the final say in much of anything...certainly nothing significant...and the US is better off that he doesn't. He's so full of "sound and fury, signifying nothing"; it's easy to froth & drool at the mouth when that's what one does best. And, it gets him attention!
  • an84u
    17 out of 17 comments....and NOT ONE favorable to Senator Gayham! Go figure...
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