Lieberman calls Ft. Hood shooting ‘terrorist attack’

By David Edwards
Sunday, November 8th, 2009 -- 11:25 am
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Joe LiebermanHomeland Security Chairman Sen. Joe Lieberman told Fox News' Chris Wallace that he wants the Department of Defense to launch an investigation into the shooting rampage at Ft. Hood. Lieberman said evidence indicates that Major Nidal Malik Hasan was probably a "self-radicalized, homegrown terrorist."

The New York Times reports, however, that investigators have tentatively concluded it was not part of a terrorist plot.

"If the reports that we're receiving of various statements he made, acts he took, are valid, he had turned to Islamist extremism, and, therefore, if that is true, the murder of these 13 people was a terrorist act and, in fact, it was the most destructive terrorist act to be committed on American soil since 9/11," Lieberman said Sunday.

According to this morning's New York Times, investigators have not ruled out the possibility Major Hassan "believed he was carrying out an extremist's suicide mission," but so far they have no evidence he was directed into violence or "ever traveled overseas to meet with extremist groups."

Lieberman wants the Department of Defense to conduct a special investigation to see if the shootings could have been predicted. "While the Army and the FBI are conducting the criminal investigation about exactly what happened and what Dr. Hasan should be charged with, the U.S. Army, the Department of Defense has a real obligation to convene an independent investigation to go back and look at whether warning signs were missed, both the stress he was under, but also the statements that he was making," he said.

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Officials quoted by The New York Times say a continuing search of Hasan's computer has found email messages exchanged with ideologically radical Muslims, though there is no evidence he communicated with "known terrorists or anyone else who encouraged or helped him to orchestrate the shootings."

Lieberman told Fox, "The new face of terrorism in America would not just be the attacks as 9/11 organized abroad and sending people in here, it would be people within this country, homegrown terrorists, self-radicalized, often over the Internet, going to jihadist websites."

This video is from Fox's Fox News Sunday, broadcast Nov. 8, 2009.



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  • GershontheZionist
    Hmm lets see
    Assistant Islamic Chaplain
    Listens to Imam of 9-11 terrorists
    Shouts Allahu Akbar
    Gives Away Korans
    Wears religious Shmatahs the day of his Mujahadeen Massacre

    Wake Up People - You have been infiltrated and you don't even know it
  • marc
    This one the Joe GETS RIGHT. It was a ACT of TERRORISM. Trying to put a SPIN on the ACTION that it was Mental Health, is ignoring the ACT. We've just executed the individual that terrorize Washington,D.C. This is NO LESS a crime Against America. Worse is that it is in the FACE OF MILITARY COMMANDERS.
    Now , for the FACT he is Muslim. That is his FAITH. IN AMERICA, we are allowed to practice OUR CHOICE OF FAITH. A "TRUE" practicing Muslim DOES NOT commit ACTS of Crime/Terrorism.
  • Pickerl
    It's because of PC. All Americans are afraid of speaking the current truth regardless of what it's about; but especially this type of shit. I served in the army for ten years before I realized that those idiots are the same, they are afraid of being branded a racist, or as someone who tells the truth about whatever it may be that's wrong. The commanders are only worried about thier next OER and if they will get that sweet assignment. So stirring the PC pot will not happen, especially now with the new hate crime bill that Obama and his bitch passed. FTA
  • lacywood
    "Self-radicalized" says neocon Joe.

    The fact is that hatemongering of scoundrels like Lieberman and Cheney has enduring consequences that can and does kill Americans right here in the USA.

    Just listen to the right wing haters now threatening to take up arms over the restoring of basic American principles to government...then marvel at the restraint of our Muslim population who have endured the psycopathy initiated by the Liebermans of this world.

    The Ft Hood incident represents just more notches on the gun belts of neocons.
  • yoshimum
    Baloney, leftist jihad apologists and political correctness got those troops killed.
  • quizmos
    Joe can ba as bigoted and racist as he wants to be with his dramatic power grabs. Careful though, because to criticize Joe is to be seen as anti-Semitic.
  • overdoneputaforkinit
    What is Hasan's terrorist agenda? Did he leave a note? Was he going to "teach us a lesson", except that he forgot to tell us what his jihad was about? I'm sure Lieberman and Fox News will invent thoughts to put in his head such as he "hated America" in order to justify the labeling him a terrorist. Lieberman is a self-promoting showman of the worst kind. Lieberman is fanning the flames of red-neck extremism for votes.
  • majorduanefish
    the country is like it is because of very poor leadership. and i mean leadership all around you look at the news and all our leaders do is talk about each other it is about how to remove god and what counts from our lives. marriage has no meaning anymore. it is all about power money. the american people are looking for a few good leaders to run this great country of ours. we need to get back to the basic of what is right. there are ten laws engraved in stone let's bring them back,and it has got to star with our leaders setting the example. thank you.
  • majorduanefish
    why are we where we ar today is because of very poor leadership. we have removed GOD from our lives.. the ten commandents are laws we shood abide by. and they are removed . marriage is on the rocks nobody belives in anymore. att leaders open your heart and eyes and see what is happening. again it is leaders who care about this country and the people. instead of self.
  • joedee1960
    Joe is the only one speaking the truth.Does anyone care about the truth:

    http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/11/the-press-c...
  • bushfatigue
    Why is this idiot on television every Sunday morning?
  • shablon
    Interesting that Lieberman considers this criminal act as "terrorism" while he thinks that burning 300 Palestinian babies using phosphorus as an "act of defense".

    Personally, I think that Major Nidal was driven to comit this crime, because of the blatant attitude of wholesale killing, which prevails in the US military. You know "I am going to get me a raghead!"
    or as the idiots used to say in Vietnam "I am going to get me gook or two" !
  • yoshimum
    Of course he was driven to commit this act of terrorism against our soldiers, Allah made him do it, or perhaps it was George Bush, no wait a minute, it was the jews, there you go, anything is better than the truth.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    How the flaming fuck would LIEberman know what happened at Ft. Hood? HE WAS IN THE OTHER CORNER OF THE COUNTRY. I'll trust first-person accounts of what happened over LIEbermans convictions any day.
  • Walking into a room full of people and shooting indiscriminately is an act of terrorism. Anyone committing this act is therefore a terrorist.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    FUCK LIEBERMAN
  • He should label Iraq a more glaring act of American terrorism.

    Yes, Ft Hood was an act of terror. Any murder is.
  • FallaciAdmirer
    Hasan shot 43 rounds killing 13.

    Hussein: Don't jump to conclusions.

    Terrorism is as Diversity Does.
  • Adam503
    Way to tell 'em Joe.

    America will not yield to evil suicide attacks carried out by AMA Doctors and Psychiatrists.
  • terry
    First of all, it is unfair to jump to the conclusion that Hasan did this as a Jihadist act. Second of all, it is unfair to assume that, since he is muslim, he is a terrorist. Third of all, how can you expect anybody to listen to 750 people returning from the hell of battle that is Afghanistan and Iraq, being bound by patient/doctor confidentiality and not being able to seek help for himself because of this obligation, not to feel some sort of remorse or anxiety even if it is vicarious.

    Wait until the investigation is finished before conclusions are drawn.
  • ez rider
    As much trouble as the good ol USA is in and we have this bag of shit, a US Senator no less, running around and showing his ignorance.

    If reid doesn't fire the MF the with the approval of the repubs then we are all shit down the drain.

    A man supposely in his position to make statements like this is treason. But it was on fox wasn't it.
  • pitbullstew
    thnks conecticutt once more again, gee thanks, nothing like joe popin off, say? where grahma his side kick? did he cleer this with McCain or did he go rogue, isnt he supposed to be threatining the healthcare measure instead?
    Oh right? Thats passed and on its way to the senate....
  • why1
    Was Fort Hood a Criminal act or Terrorism?

    http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=6456

    .
  • yoshimum
    Both.
  • Savantster
    .
    The idea is to go to the link..

    and killing is criminal, not terrorism. There has to be the proper motive for it to be terrorism.. so far, I've not seen anything supporting a terrorist motive (other than idiots saying that his religion is all that counts).
  • Cognomen08
    He’s trying to inoculate himself. So if the Democrats grow a spine and try to boot the Senator from Hill & Knowlton out of his position as chairman of Homeland Security he can claim they are being politically correct or worse, after he raised this reckless, demagogic, baseless charge.

    He’s doing everything he can to bring the people he’s most comfortable with back to power.

    Someone needs to find the Lieberman sex tape.
  • Democratic_Socialist
    Who'd HAVE this anal drip licker? There is no tape.
  • yoshimum
    Probably Barney Frank.
  • johnbis
    Say where is Lieberman's allegiance: the U.S.A. or Greater Israel?
  • Sen. Joe 'little butcher' Lieberman, homegrown poltroon.
  • Savantster
    .
    "it would be people within this country, homegrown terrorists, self-radicalized, often over the Internet, going to jihadist websites."

    So, Joe is helping the GOP develop new talking points about how Obama and the Dems "let another terror attack happen" by redefining what constitutes "terrorists" from an organized group to disgruntled individuals [but only if they are not xtian].

    So, now, getting pissed off at your government for all the abuses they foist on us in the name of ever growing profits makes you a terrorist..

    Of course, King George called our Founding Fathers terrorists too..

    And keep in mind that ANY time there is ANY violence in the world from a non-xtian or non-jew, it will be called a Jihadist action of terrorists. Ahhhh, yes.. the crusades are alive and well in 2009..
  • yoshimum
    Anyone who shouts “Allahu Akbar” and opens fire on a crowd of unarmed people is a terrorist. If Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is not a terrorist, no one is.
  • overdoneputaforkinit
    Terrorists have agendas. That is part of the definition of terrorism. Did Hasan tell anyone his terrorist agenda? What about postal workers who "go postal?" Are they terrorists?
  • Savantster
    .
    So, by the same logic, you would assert that anyone that shouts "Praise Jesus!" before killing someone is a terrorist? Or just a nutjob..
  • yoshimum
    Big difference, Christians do not kill FOR God, jihadists DO kill FOR allah.
    When was the last time anyone heard 'Praise Jesus' before a massacre?
    Why are you so hellbent in making excuses for this murderer?
  • Bill
    I think the REAL story is that we need all Muslims OUT of the Military! When they have killed several of our own 3 times in the last few years and wear the uniform, politically-correct AND Muslims need to go. Lieberman seems to be the only one that is swaying that way! My son is in the military and I know if one kills him and wears the same uniform, I will be devastated.
  • Why do we not ask Pat Tillman's family about their son dieing by [friendly fire]. Some still think he was executed by his fellow troops.
    Or lets ask Rummy, and Mc Chrystal who were in charge of the cover up. And then used it as a recruiting tool. Crimes were committed, but no one was held accountable.
  • edwards_com
    Once again, Christians DO kill for their God. The Conservative BUSH regime used biblical quotes and even the word CRUSADE to justify their Bogus wars which slaughter a MILLION plus innocent Iranians. Generals quoted out of context words from their so called word of God book. The USA is no better than the Muslims.
  • Oh really?
    Didnt "God" tell Dumbass to terrorize Iraq?
  • edwards_com
    You bet he did & ordered the Generals on down to use that bible thing to quote out of context lies as justification for the slaughter of innocents. See Haditha.
  • edwards_com
    Christians most certainly DO kill for their God. The entire BUSH regime used it as a foundation for their bogus wars.Their 'Jesus as Rambo' crap is in all the evangelical propaganda I have seen.
  • drhaagen
    It's quite obvious to me that most of you people have never actually experienced the real world of violence and terror. Rather more likeely no further than the inside of your nearest Panera Bread lounge or Star Bucks i-net cafe'. The fact of the matter is that Islamic Extremists have made it blantly public knowledge that their Agenda is to murder innocent human beings in the name of their age-old, unfounded racist hatred for the Jews (and those with the audacity to protect them, i.e. Americans). Christianity has NEVER made a public announcement re: innocuous violence against innocent people. I'm quite sure that most of you would have defended Adolf Hitler during Nazi Germany because he was trying to "cleanse" the human race of such "malcontents" like Lieberman or Beck who have the audacity to question and disagree with the status quo. Murdering innocent, unarmed people because someone merely disagrees with you or even (God forbid) doesn't like you is pure Anarchy. Plain and simple. It is outright dispicable that any of you woould defend the "rights" of a homicidal murderer. Why don't you go talk to the parents and children of the innocent men and women who were slaughtered by this animal (like the Bush's did). Maybe then you tell them how you feel sorry for this less-than-human muslim who butchered their children and parents!
  • edwards_com
    Your opening sentence of backhanded name calling & insults negate your entire post. And as for the 'NEVER made a public announcement of killing innocents'. Tell that to the MILLION plus the Conservative BUSH regime murdered in the name of Christianity in Iraq. The Conservative GOP Bibles quotes and proclamation of a Crusade (cleansing) make the USA no different than the Muslims. Oh and as for Hitler....look no further that the GOP Conservatice PAT BUCHANAN and his 'Hitler wasn't the bad guy speech' 3 weeks ago.
    Your propaganda fell apart 4 - 6 years ago.
    No offense
  • Excellent point. Didn't Rummy and his Pentagon use Biblical quotes in their briefings for the Shrubster? Even the Shrubster had a freudian slip, and called it a Crusade. Some of his Generals were quoting the Bible, and speaking of the virtues of xtiandom.
  • yoshimum
    "Shrubster" typical leftist comments, no class.
    Obamabot?
    Sheepster?
    I'm still waiting to see your guy walk on water.
  • Obama is not my guy. As far as I am concerned he is Shrub/lite. He was the [chosen one] by [TPTB] the powers that be. They needed a salesman to continue their agenda, and they got the best there was at the time.
  • Savantster
    .
    To clarify..

    Crusaders DO kill FOR their god, and Crusaders are (typically) xtian. Jihadists DO kill FOR their god, and Jihadists are Muslim.

    however, not all xtians are Crusaders, and not all Muslims are Jihadists. Let that sink in a bit.
  • felixthecatxxxx
    The only Muslims who are Jihadists are those that obey the words of Mohammed.
  • Evangelical fundamentalist xtians are anxiously awaiting the rapture to occur in Israel. I would consider that to be a massive massacre. The Israeli IDF terrorized and attacked Gaza, but it was called self defense. I believe that Hamas or any one else that lobs rockets into Israel are terrorists. But at the same time then the isareli IDF should also be recognized as terrorists. There are many ways to bring about terror. The Israeli IDF is state sponsored, and as such, the state of Israel should be recognized as a terrorist state. Many Jews in Israel are against the evangelical xtian zionists. Their agenda is totally against peace in the middle east. The likuds, along with the global zionists are the saboteurs for peace in Israel and the middle east.
  • yoshimum
    What on earth does Israel have to do with the attack on Ft. Hood?
  • Nothing ! ! As far as Lieberman goes, all roads lead to the Likudnik controlled Tel Aviv.
  • Savantster
    .
    I'm hell bent on keeping people honest. Tiller, for one, is someone that died FOR god because the person that killed him did it because of his religion.

    The fact is, the rote definition of "terrorist" is someone that commits an act of violence with the intent to strike fear and "terror" into a public to try and evoke change of some sort.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

    If you snap and kill people, your religion is immaterial. What you "say" when you snap is also immaterial. If this guy "snapped" and simply wanted to take out as many people as he could while he killed himself, that's not properly codified as "terrorism", period.

    When you see the rampant religious BIGOTRY toward Muslims because of the few extremists out there, you see the remnants of the Crusades where xtians DID kill in the name of their god. Just because they are trying to keep it more subdued now doesn't make it any less the same ideological fight.

    This is a topic that covers dozens of ideas and frames. I can't educate you on the entire thing in such a small forum, you just have to go educate yourself. Once you do, you'll most likely see that LIEberman is a religious zealot who's decided to use political power to enact his religious aims instead of direct violence. The veil doesn't fool everyone, just the more ignorant in our society.
  • felixthecatxxxx
    Nonsense. The Crusade were a delayed response to the bloodthirsty Muslim aggression that had been going on for centuries. The Middle East and North Africa had been Christian before tens of millions were slaughtered in the name of Allah. Islam has always hated the West, and always will. Islam is a bloodthirsty, evil political ideology disguised as a foul religion. Learn some history, open your eyes.
  • jamminjohn
    Of course it was a terrorist attack. So was the Unibomber, the Oklahoma city bomber, the Olympics bomber and the tiller killer. Lieberman, who apparently can't figure out what party he belongs to, wants another fifteen minutes of fame to go along with the rest of the time wasted on him.
  • Lieberman is an Uber Israel Firster. He will be taking his orders from AIPAC, and Tel Aviv. He will make a mockery out of this. His main goal will make this benefit the Israeli cause. Just like when after 9/11 BiBi stated that 9/11 will help the Israeli's to get world sympathy. Dancing Joe the Joke, should not chair, or lead anything. How much longer will the people of Conn. put up with this Israeli carpetbagger?
  • yoshimum
    You obviously wear your badge of anti-semitism with pride.
  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi
    Anthrax
    Wall Street
    Art students
    9/11 snow job
    Chicken hawks
    Moving company
    Propaganda media
    DNC stealth neocons
    Anti-semitism accusers
    The chosen the superior
    2-3% of the US population
    Extortion blackmail bribery
    By deception ye shall wage war
    AIPAC's Israel-first dual-nationals
    For profit NotFederal NoReserve scam

    ~ Words are plentiful deeds are precious
  • Savantster
    .
    I see nothing in his post that is anti-semitic in his post. Being against Zion and Zionism doesn't mean you are anti-jew. Faulting Israel for their bad actions has nothing to do with Jews or their religion, it simply has to do with bad behavior.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    Being against Zion and Zionism doesn't mean you are anti-jew.

    Exactly. A point stupid people who think they're smart miss.
  • ramapith
    Lieberman might claim to be pro-Israel, but he is really pro-LIKUD.
    That's an incredible difference, and it corresponds directly to, say, Cheney, Bush, Giuliani and Joe McCarthy claiming (or having claimed) to be pro-American when they were really pro-Republican.
    Lieberman is opposed to the Israeli domestic left, and when they were in power there, he supported the opposition. So, essentially, did AIPAC.
    THIS is the truth that dare not speak its name. Sensible Jews want peace and no part of these schmucks.
  • Freedom's Toast
    Very, very good point, ramapith.

    I often wonder why every _US_ presidential candidate has to kiss AIPAC's ass to be seen as serious and qualified vis-a-vis foreign policy.

    Wouldn't it make more sense to simply pay fealty to the arms manufacturers directly?
  • LOL; Playing the anti-semite card a little early, are you not? As soon as a word against israel or its fellow zionists is spoken, the anti-semite card is played. There is nothing SEMITE about Lieberman. A Jordanian has more claim to being called a semite, than lieberman or you do.
  • LOL; Throwing out the anti-semite card a little early are you not? When ever something is said about israel and is not acceptable to their Zionist cause. T
  • pakaal
    I don't remember Lieberman calling for a DoD investigation of Timothy McVeigh in 1995.
  • felixthecatxxxx
    And that means that an investigation into this new terrorstic attack should not be done?
  • yoshimum
    Big difference. McVeigh was not on active duty at the time.
  • pakaal
    Terrorism doesn't require active duty status.
  • Freedom's Toast
    To the victims, and their families, I bet there isn't a hell of a lot of difference. Why draw such useless distinctions?
    I think, though, that McVeigh fits the pre-9/11 idea of terrorism a lot better. (I say pre-9/11, because the issue has become much more confusing here in the US, as people attempt to carve out and defend political and ideological territories with various spins on the definition.)
    Before 9/11, it was generally thought that terrorism was the targeting of civilians to make a political statement; to achieve a political goal. It was a means to an end, and therefore somewhat logical (to the extent that you can call violence logical).
    Timothy McVeigh had confederates, was affiliated with groups, and could be reasonably expected to have understood that those groups' ideological goals would be furthered, or at least publicized, by virtue of his actions.
    Hassan, at this point, isn't reported to have been given assistance or succor by any group which was aware of his goals and plans. Therefore, his acts benefited no one. They were simply the acts of a lone psychopath.

    Joe Lieberman and yoshimum can attempt to make as much zionist hay as they wish of it all. Logically, though, it's a fairly preposterous proposition. Only the pre-convinced and those who salivate at another pretext for war will be "fooled".
    And no, yoshimum, I'm not an anti-semite, though I know you're just waiting to hurl that invective. I wear the doily on high holy days, to be respectful. However, I find belief in imaginary friends to be the height of foolishness, and to justify murder and war, and ethnic cleansing by reference to god's promise is perhaps the most arrogant thing ever conceived by humans.

    This Hassan asshole was a lunatic, not a terrorist.
  • Savantster
    .
    Yes, but he did his act of violence with an intent to sway/strike back at the government. Textbook definition of "terrorism". This guy seemingly did it because he snapped for some reason, I've not seen any reports of his "anti-government" position, one that McVeigh clearly had.

    And, again, you're allowing yourself to be swayed by a false argument, one that requires that this was a "terrorist attack", not just someone going nuts and killing a lot of people.
  • Kurt_O
    Wallace: "For answers we turn to Joe Lieberman..."

    Actually we turn to Joe Lieberman when we want to hear AIPAC's propaganda spin on current latest happenings.

    They're so incredibly desperate to keep the bogus "war on terror" alive -- they'll do or say ANYTHING.

    LIEberman speaks of an independent investigation for this incident, and that's fine, but what about the events of 9-11? When will we ever see an authentic government sponsored independent investigation of that?

    As often as you'll hear LIEberman invoke 9-11 in his rhetoric, you'll never hear him questioning the ridiculous official fairytale or calling for any real investigation into that day. Why? Gotta be a reason.
  • Joe "The Dancing Jew" Lieberman
  • Lieberman is a scumbag politician that the people of CT should have retired. Trying to capitalize on the the death and grief of his fellow Americans is a new low for this creep.
  • mgardener
    Does not Michelle Bachmann's statements constitute the same level of investigations?
    Didn't she threaten all the Democrats in Congress on Thurs.?
    What about glenn beck and the poisoning of Nancy Pelosi?

    If they, the rabid radical right wing republicans, are advocating going after people for extremism then don't several republicans need the same level of investigation?

    Or is it only Islamic extremism?
  • Savantster
    .
    Of course it's only Islamic extremism.. the Crusades never ended.
  • yoshimum
    Islamic jihad apologist much?
  • Savantster
    .
    xtian crusaders are every bit as bad as islamic jihadists. I apologize for neither because all religious fundamentalists are nuts. They believe in fairy tales and kill in the name of superstition. I have no place in my mind for such rampant psychosis.

    The point should be that we need to find the root cause of all "extremism" and try to cure the disease that drives it.
    .
  • felixthecatxxxx
    All religious fundamentalism is bad and dangerous. Clouding the issue by trying to say that the Crusades are the root cause of today's troubles is ignorant. islamic aggression against the West has been happening since the inception of that evil religion.
  • Joe
    Probe Israeli attack on 9/11.
  • kkey22
    LIEBERMAN IS A DAMN JOKE
  • dennycrane
    I want a "probe" of letting zionist pigs being members of the senate and their wives that receive "perks" for being on "death panel" boards of capitalist "death care" providers.
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