Alleged Fort Hood shooter’s motive still unknown

By Agence France-Presse
Saturday, November 7th, 2009 -- 2:17 pm
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Initial search finds no exchanges with 'known extremists'

malikhasan2 Alleged Fort Hood shooters motive still unknownInvestigators on Saturday worked to uncover the motives of a Muslim army doctor suspected of killing 13 people and wounding 30 others in a shooting rampage at a US military base.

An initial search of Major Nidal Malik Hasan's computer revealed no direct exchanges with known extremists, but US Army and FBI officials had yet to rule out possible links to terrorist groups, US media reported.

Earlier this year, the Federal Bureau of Investigation learned of Internet postings by a man calling himself Nidal Hasan that expressed support for suicide bombings.

Investigators were not able to determine yet whether the writer and Major Hasan were the same person, but the details fueled concerns that authorities may have missed warning signs prior to the attack at Fort Hood, Texas.

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Witnesses tell of chaos and carnage

Neighbors reportedly said Hasan, 39, was in a rush when he gave away his belongings -- including a Koran -- shortly before Thursday's bloody shooting spree.

"I'm not going to need them," he told one neighbor, Patricia Villa, according to The New York Times, handing over bags of vegetables, a mattress and clothing.

A US-born Muslim of Palestinian heritage, Hasan, 39, had voiced dismay over US wars in Islamic countries and was distraught that he was about to be deployed to Afghanistan.

He reportedly said the US struggle against terror threats was a "war on Muslims," while his family alleged he was the target of prejudice and harassment over his Islamic faith.

Criminal investigators were poring over evidence to determine if the alleged shooter -- who was under guard at a hospital -- was motivated by Islamist political ideology or had snapped under the pressure of his job counseling soldiers traumatized by combat.

Shooting deals harsh blow to exhausted troops

In Texas, poignant details of each of those killed in the rampage drove home the scale of the tragedy.

The victims included a 21-year-old mother-to-be Private Francheska Velez, who was due to return home to Chicago for maternity leave after a tour in Iraq; 56-year-old John Gaffaney, a psychiatric nurse who had just persuaded the military to let him return to active duty for deployment in Iraq; Private First Class Kham Xiong, 23, a father of three whose own father had fought communist forces in Laos during the Vietnam war.

President Barack Obama led the nation in mourning Saturday, and sought to reassure a stunned military.

"Thursday's shooting was one of the most devastating ever committed on an American military base," he said. "And yet, even as we saw the worst of human nature on full display, we also saw the best of America."

The president hailed the soldiers and civilians who rushed to help victims, tearing off bullet-riddled clothes to treat the injured and using blouses as tourniquets.

Obama ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and federal buildings, as troops at home and abroad held a minute's silence to mourn the dead.

The bodies of those killed were taken to the same mortuary at Dover Air Base in Delaware that handles fallen soldiers from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Hasan was moved meanwhile from a civilian to a military hospital, in part for security reasons, Fort Hood deputy commander Colonel John Rossi told reporters.

Hasan was shot and seriously wounded by a female civilian police officer who was being hailed as a heroine for ending his deadly rampage.

Witnesses reportedly heard Hasan shout "Allahu Akbar!" (God is greatest) as he opened fire in a troop processing center with a semiautomatic weapon and a handgun.

Rossi said investigators believe Hasan fired more than 100 rounds during the incident.

US Army chief of staff General George Casey said the attack was "a kick in the gut, not only for the Fort Hood community but for the entire army."

Fort Hood, by area the world's largest US military base, has borne the brunt of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Troops based here have suffered the highest number of casualties and have undertaken multiple tours of duty.

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  • yvonneo
    I think there is a concerted effort being put into convincing the American people to convict an entire group of people and their religion for the crimes of one man and to render collective punishment for that individual man's crimes.

    When did collective judgment and punishment for crimes committed by individuals become the norm in this country? We need to ask this question. And exactly what political interests are pushing this very unAmerican and unconstitutional stance in our country?

    We need to be very watchful for those that would attempt to manipulate the American people through disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda and question their motives. Who is attempting to generate fear and hatred in the heart of Americans against their fellow Americans--besides the christian extremists? Remember, in politics, PR is all about garnering the support of the people around the world in favor a particular agenda. So whose agenda would be favored if collective judgment against Islam were achieved in the US?
  • philedrifter
    I think there is a concerted effort being put into convincing the American people to convict an entire group of people and their religion

    I very purposely cut that statement off right where I did for a big reason.
  • Elim
    Try not to get to get too bogged down in the "feelings" of this. Pay attention and focus. The corporatocracy and their media want us very much to believe this man was 1) a devout muslim 2) held extremist views 3) was a poor soldier 4) was mentally unstable 5) was disgruntled 6) was distraught 7) was angry 8) was suicidal. Then look at what they offer as proof of these things. Pay attention to what was initially offered in the news reporting, and of that, what has now been dropped from the discourse, specifically, a second gunmen.

    This is another fucking government false flag psy-op. So, we have witnessed The Problem: Major Hassan, Muslims, Islam, terrorists, unrestricted gun ownership. Then, The Reaction: grieving families, relatives who say they just don't understand how he could have done such a thing, Arab leaders who urge calm and say the Koran doesn't allow for this, and Killeen TX in 1991. Lasty, we will be offered The Solution: well, I'll let you all guess what that's going to be.
  • antoniahildebrand
    He's just a patsy. He's dead, then he's not dead? He's smiling and drinking coffee in a coffee shop and then he's a murderous killer? Eyewitnesses said there was more than one person shooting and now it's just the usual lone shooter? And how did he hit so many with just two hand guns, even shooting two handed like the Lone Ranger -as we know so many psychiatrists do! This man spent years helping soldiers recover from the mental trauma of war. Why would he shoot soldiers? Poppycock.
  • Elim
    Yes, and why didn't any of those trained combat veterans rush him when he was reloading? Maybe they were hoping we'd think he didn't have to reload because he had two guns, but they've already said he did.
  • philedrifter
    Yeah, there was only one shooter, this guy. The rest of the soldiers were just throwing bullets at him with their hands, trying to poke him in the eye.

    Look... first reports contain mistakes.

    You: "Why would he shoot soldiers?"

    See my response, below, which contains the word MOTIVE
  • shrapnel
  • Montana
    My heart and prayers go out to all the victims, their families and friends.

    From all the news reports it appears this Major is a career military man and that in his current position for less than a year and was not going well. He did not want to be deployed and in fact wanted out of the Army, so he paid back his military student loans and hired an attorney.

    The reason may have been that he was being harassed and called names like “camel jockey ”. I guess all that sensitivity training for those with bigotry tendencies are all for not. (Can training real change the way you were brought up?)

    Another reason is called PTSD by proxy, the stress of treating PTSD in other soldiers make you go a little crazy yourself. Its even more stressful because most of the higher ranks don’t even believe in such thing as PTSD. Their denial prompts them to tell suffering soldiers to “drink it off.” Some civilians in the defense dept feel the same way no doubt IMO, it’s why hardly anything is mentioned of PTSD until one of these violent episodes occurs. These people see PTSD as a cop-out or an excuse. First we need to have an understanding that PTSD actually is real before we can ever hope to help treat it (does anyone believe that being shot at or killing your fellow man is not going to affect you in some way either then or in the future?). I guess with the high soldier suicide rate before and after deployment kinda takes care of the complaints from coming in (so those who said he should have just killed himself, well that’s already happening ). What real ticked me off when I heard that the military was trying to say that some soldiers coming back from this war with PTSD or other psychological disorders had “Pre-Existing Conditions” and that the military would not pay to treat them, I think it has been corrected but what a bunch of asses they break you and don’t want to pay.

    The final issue is why does the military want to keep people in their ranks that no longer want to be there is it just sheer number? I mean is it ten percent, twenty percent. Is it that it is the only contract in the US that you can’t get out of unless to kill yourself or kill your fellow soldiers? It does not make any sense to me.

    I guess the Major could just be another wacko like Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nicholas, of course McVeigh was executed and apparently because Nicholas became a Christian he received a life sentenced. I real think if he gets that far the Major will get the former and not in a million years the latter.

    This is so messed up, hopefully they will make some changes that make sense.
  • philedrifter
    My heart and prayers go out to all the victims, their families and friends.

    I don't think USPS will ship medical waste, and your prayers fall on deaf ears.

    I won't even bother to read the rest of your nonsensical drivel. There is no god. Get over it.
  • George_of_the_Jungle
    Where do you see "GOD" mentioned in his post, you neanderthal?

    Are you incapable of anything other than binary thinking?

    Perhaps since you've had your head stuck so far up your butt for so long it has filled up with "medical waste".
  • philedrifter
    durrr who the fuck do people pray to, a fucking trash can? jesus fucking christ, are you retarded?

    LOL and you call me a neanderthal? lol. Who do you think created god?! TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY COULDN'T! durrrrrr

    What I'm saying is... you're offering your heart, but if you really did give it up, you'd have to be dead/killed in the process. DURRRRR Does it make you feel good to offer something you know no one can possibly take you up on? durrrrr

    Me? I hate empty lip service. i.e. you. I'd LOVE to see (your words) all the victims, their families and friends SEE THIS THREAD SO THEY CAN TAKE YOU UP ON THE OFFER AND COLLECT (your words) My heart and prayers go out to.
  • George_of_the_Jungle
    Talk about non-sensical. You criticize a guy for offering his condolences and then you go on a rant about god and what not.

    What's wrong with you? It looks like you picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
  • Richard Kurdt
    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/45737...

    Updated report on the US vs. Israel story

    Check it out and spread it.
  • philedrifter
    I'll tell you what his motive is, right here:
    (Imagine you're him)

    (to self) "holy shit, I've been a soldier for the last x-teen years and I'm just now coming to realize the colossal monstrosity that is the US government. They're going to send me to kill my own roots! My own cousins, my own uncles! They had absolutely no proof of Iraq's ties to 9/11 (because there weren't any) but they used the attack as justification to invade Iraq to steal Saddam's oil because he refused to share it with the rest of the world. He was the unpopular kid on the block, that's why no other countries intervened when the US led an invasion; hell the only WMDs Iraq had were the dilapidated ones that Reagan sold to Saddam in the 80s. (view Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam after the deal was agreed.)

    Fuck this country, I'm going to protect the homeland of my forefathers rather than THIS country which I dedicated years of military service to."

    "I'm gonna take as many of these motherfuckers out as I can, before they take me out! Allah may see me as a martyr but I've come to realize with age that religion is just bullshit, but I don't wanna be part of this military any more."

    "ALLAH ACKBAR!"

    THAT'S YOUR MOTIVE RIGHT F*CKING THERE.

    Then the US MSM will contort this to mean whatever they want, they'll project all sorts of crazy shit, they'll claim he had illegitimate children, I'm sure some previously-raped women will come forward, to paint this guy as a real mean, heartless son of a bitch.

    And then they'll forget about it because it's their job to do the same thing tomorrow.
  • felixthecatxxxx
    Read the Quran, and the motive for this atrocity becomes instantly clear.
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