Blue Shield of California is worse. They deserve to receive heaps of legal trouble.

you are all idiots if you even think there is a difference between the republican and Democrats. Both parties lie pure and simple. The person who actually warned the country about what was still to come was discredited, Ron Paul. Bush was a idiot and so is Barrack. They are just puppets owned by the people who put them into power.

Many of the Nutbag wingers are, IMO, bitter leftovers from the Bush era, when they were promised so much and got so little. But hey, that's also what happened to a lot of Obama's supporters since the '08 campaigns.

Bitter much?

It's only November of the FIRST year. Elections have consequences, but politics still take time.

Hey Mr. Cobb,
Quick idea for you: Since you're from Florida, why don't you go see Congressman Alan Grayson from District 8 and team up with him to amplify your voice like Wendell Potter, formerly from Cigna, has done. What do you think?

It is really hard to determine with this fellow whether he is indeed regretting his involvement in the health care industry or has a personal grudge that can be served with this involvement while looking like a repentant sinner. It would be nice to take him at face value, but once a pitchman always a pitchman. This partnership with Brave New Films probably has a dime or two associated with it.

Health care is too important to be thought of as a commodity. That is why every US Citizen should get preventive health care, paid for by taxes on income. Some might pay more, some nothing at all. We are all in this together, as citizens of the greatest nation on Earth. To do less is a slap in the face to all those who died for our rights and liberty. If all men are created equal, why do some get great health care and some none at all? A great society is a healthy society. When we have a society where 20 percent of the population cannot afford to see a doctor, get lab tests or afford medications, we put our entire society at risk.

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If you're going to change the paradigm, you should go even further. You should not be beholden to someone else just so you can live your life.. but those that came before have made all our resources into personal property for themselves. Now you have no place to live and no food to eat and no materials to build with without THEM giving it to you... and you "get what they want" by working for them, or someone like them.

The world has changed.. 1000 years ago, you could roam off and care for yourself.. you can't do that today, the entire globe is "owned", and not by anyone born today.. If you want a piece, you have to be a slave to someone else for some time first.

The planet's resources belong to all the creatures on it, not just the humans that were lucky enough to be born before you and I. Private ownership of public resources is the core issue.. the need for money to live, and only being able to get money by being a slave to someone else, these are what are destroying the world.

abolish money.

www.thevenusproject.com
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if raw story does not edit out my new word that applies to the health care system we have now.......

CLAIMICIDE

The only people more cynical than health insurance companies are the major employment entities that manipulate us into buying what we don't need. After being forced into early retirement my employer (the State of Texas) immediately tried to demolish the retiree health benefit package I had paid on for 29 years. My wife, who had been on my policy as a dependent for my entire career, was forced to take out her own policy as hedge against the threat of being dropped from mine. Corporate theft and the punitive attitudes of their right-wing politician-sycophants are the order of the day. The next time the political pendulum swings right in our political culture (2010?) people in the center and left of center of the political spectrum are going to experience a punitive campaign from Limbaugh brownshirts that will make the Reagan / Bush years look like the New Deal!

The only thing that can be hoped for is that the schmuck running the Republic (with 36% of the vote in the last election) some day will slip on his own grease and break his neck. The fact that only 36% voted for him suggests that only a third of Texans are slope headed knuckle draggers. The rest of us are human beings.

Hi texasaggie. Are you the same TA that posts on TPM??

yes

Any media personality who is pro private insurance should automatically be asked if they hold stock in any private medical insurance company. This is a HUGE conflict of interest issue that could explain why talking bobble heads like Beck, Hannity, et al are trying to get the public option nixed.

Good idea, Jimbo.

But more importantly, every elected and/or appointed official should be similarly exposed.
The media has,true to form, fallen far short of delivering truth. Instead of having to research carefully obscured campaign donations ourselves (which may not even have been given _directly_ to congresspersons/staffers/appointees, but to PACs, etc.), wouldn't it be nice to hear it prior to each time one of these sell-outs is put before us as a voice of reason?

I'm not holding my breath, though. I believe we're being screwed harder and faster than ever. With Bushco having brought the looting of the economy out into the open, mainstreamed it, if you will, it seems there's no longer even any pretense given. It's open season on the common man.

I had much hope in Obama, but after the backroom deal cut with PhRMA before the discussion/negotiations even began, it's pretty apparent we've been Ph(RMA)ucked once again.

It's tempting to simply stop playing the democratic process game. We get the choice between a shit sammich and a douche every time. <sigh> I'll probably continue to vote, but I feel like such a sucker every time elections come 'round.

Ronald "RayGun" never admitted that "smokes" were bad when he use to do cigarette commercials, dressed up like a doctor, telling how great they are. At least this guy did, even though he will make a fortune on books and appearances, fueled by past lies. Sort of like those shill preachers that rake in money by being ex-heroin addicts and schlepping their story to sheeples that send them money.

Too bad prancing uninformed tea baggers lack the critical thinking skills to understand reality.

Oh, they have the ability. They've just trained themselves with years and years of willful ignorance to not engage in it.

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Actually, I don't think they do.. I work with a girl that no matter how many times I lead her to a conclusion rooted in sound logic and reasoning (and it's a difficult task), she declares the fact immaterial. She has no reason for it, just that "it doesn't make sense".

I've only managed to get her down the road twice.. and both times she jumped right back into her warm fuzzy place instead of incorporating the new information. So while she saw the new thing, she couldn't incorporate it into her mind/view/reality.

Savantster , I feel your pain . I have both an older brother and nephew that are right wing knuckle dragger's . Trying to get anything through to them is enough to make you want to beat your head against the wall . My brother is a disciple of limbaugh , he used to e-mail me right wing garbage that any reasonably intelligent third grader could have seen through . I would then do a bit of research and send him corrected information with resource information completely debunking the nonsense . Had no effect , he would just ignore the fact his facts were demonstrably wrong and send another batch of right wing BS . He asked if I would read a book by ( gag ) Mark Levine if he sent it to me , seemingly believing that my reading that inane blather would show me the light . My nephew on the other hand is a Beck fan , he is obsessed with " Acorn " . Talking with either of them is like playing a bizarre game of wack-a-mole . Even when you can show them their facts are wrong it makes no difference , they just look at you like a cow looks at a train , nothing gets through , if it's not from a right wing source or conflicts with their preconceived ideas , they simply dismiss it . I have pretty much given up trying to get through to either of them , it's just a waste of time . By the way , I used to post as " Jim C " before they switched to this posting system , I couldn't get my moniker on this new " improved " site . I see you were able to keep " Savantster " .

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"A new study out of Yale University confirms what argumentative liberals have long-known: Offering reality-based rebuttals to conservative lies only makes conservatives cling to those lies even harder. In essence, schooling conservatives makes them more stupid."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-sweeney/there...
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I have read several similar studies , I sent my sister a couple so she could better understand why my nephew is such a blockhead . Do you have a link to the one you mentioned ?

Yes and Yes to both downriver and roland99. They don't want to know the truth and quite honestly they think we are just as crazy as they are.

Good for you Cobb. Keep speaking out and exposing these blood suckers for who they are. Amazing the bussed-in tea partiers are too dumb to understand where their bread is buttered.

Yeah, tell us something "thinking" Americans don't know!