Condi set sights on Iraq as 9/11 unfolded: UK diplomat

By Daniel Tencer
Thursday, November 26th, 2009 -- 6:38 pm
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condoleezza rice Condi set sights on Iraq as 9/11 unfolded: UK diplomatNot sure if Bush-Blair deal to invade Iraq was 'signed in blood,' former UK ambassador says; Iraq war inquiry could be a cover-up, critics claim

A former British ambassador to the United States says then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice talked to him about Iraq and Saddam Hussein hours after the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.

Sir Christopher Meyer, who served as Britain's top diplomat in Washington from 1997 to 2003, also told an inquiry into the Iraq war that the timeline the US and Britain set to invade Iraq made it impossible for the UN to determine if Saddam Hussein had active weapons of mass destruction programs.

He also criticized former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, saying that a "stronger prime minister" like Margaret Thatcher would have been able to exert more influence on Washington and allow more time for diplomacy, while insisting on a plan for what would happen after the invasion.

On September 11, 2001, Rice reportedly told Meyer that "there's no doubt this was an Al-Qaeda operation [but] we are just looking to see if there could possibly be any connection with Saddam Hussein."

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Rice's comments at the time are "important because they suggest that the United States quickly tied the attacks with Saddam's regime," writes David Stringer at the Associated Press. "Years later, President George W. Bush's administration was forced to acknowledge that they could find no connection between Saddam and the attacks."

Meyer, the former ambassador, also told the inquiry that the "unforgiving nature" of the Bush administration's plans for an Iraq invasion effectively made it impossible for chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix to determine if Saddam had an operational weapons of mass destruction program. The Guardian reports:

Sir Christopher Meyer said the "unforgiving nature" of the build-up after American forces had been told to prepare for war meant that "we found ourselves scrabbling for the smoking gun".

He added: "It was another way of saying 'it's not that Saddam has to prove that he's innocent, we've now bloody well got to try and prove he's guilty.' And we – the Americans, the British – have never really recovered from that because of course there was no smoking gun."

The US had first prepared for invasion in January but the date was later moved to March. "All that said, when you looked at the timetable for the inspections, it was impossible to see how [Hans] Blix [chief weapons inspector] could bring the process to a conclusion, for better or for worse, by March."

Meyer also suggested that an April, 2002 meeting between Blair and President George W. Bush at the president's ranch in Crawford, Texas, may have marked the turning point when the UK decided to follow the US unquestioningly into a war in Iraq, and it may have been the moment when Tony Blair realized that weapons of mass destruction were little more than a pretext for the actual purpose of the war -- regime change in Iraq. The Daily Telegraph reports that Meyer said:

“The two men were alone in the ranch so I’m not entirely clear to this day what degree of convergence (on Iraq policy) was signed in blood, if you like, at the Crawford ranch.

“But there are clues in the speech Tony Blair gave the next day, which was the first time he had said in public ‘regime change’. He was trying to draw the lessons of 9/11 and apply them to the situation in Iraq which led - I think not inadvertently but deliberately - to a conflation of the threat posed by Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.

“When I read that I thought ‘this represents a tightening of the UK/US alliance and a degree of convergence on the danger Saddam Hussein presented’.”

Meyer also criticized Tony Blair for not insisting more strongly that the US put more effort into a diplomatic resolution to the Iraq conflict, comparing the Labour Party prime minister unfavorably to Britain's Conservative prime minister in the 1980s, Baroness Margaret Thatcher. The Independent reports:

Insisting he was not making a “party political point”, Sir Christopher said he had asked himself “what would Margaret Thatcher have done” in handling Britain’s relationship with the US. “I think she would have insisted on a clear, coherent diplomatic strategy and I think she would have demanded the greatest clarity about what the heck will happen if and when we remove Saddam Hussein,” he said.

COVER-UP?

The British government's inquiry into the Iraq invasion, led by Sir John Chilcot, is being described in the British media as the largest, most expansive investigation yet into the Iraq war and its causes. But some critics say that an arrangement between the government of Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the Chilcot inquiry to keep certain documents secret could result in a cover-up.

"A previously undisclosed agreement between Sir John Chilcot's inquiry and the government gives Whitehall [the British government] the final say on what information the investigation can release into the public domain," reports Andrew Grice, political editor of the Independent.

A protocol agreed by the inquiry and the government includes nine wide-ranging reasons under which Whitehall departments can refuse to publish documents disclosed to the investigation. Crucially, disputes between Sir John and the government over disclosures would be resolved by the Cabinet Secretary, Sir Gus O'Donnell [the highest-ranking bureaucrat in the British government].

The agreement allows the Government to stop publication of material which would "cause harm or damage to the public interest" such as national security, international relations or economic interests; breach the disclosure rules of the security services; endanger life or risk serious harm to an individual; breach legal professional privilege; prejudice legal proceedings or a statutory or criminal inquiry; breach the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act or Data Protection Act; or be commercially sensitive.

Observers have already noticed the arrangement between the inquiry and the British government at work, and have suggested that information is already being concealed from the public.

"The limitations of the Chilcot inquiry are obvious," writes Diane Abbott at the Guardian. "It is a group of establishment trusties, evidence will not be on oath and the government is doing its best to keep key documents from the inquiry. Even yesterday, in the very first week of the inquiry, former British ambassador to Washington, Sir Christopher Meyer, mentioned four key documents that he knew existed but the Chilcot inquiry had not seen."

But Abbott noted that important information about the run-up to the Iraq war is making it through to the public, despite the government's efforts to restrict it. "Despite everything, the truth is coming to light," Abbott writes.

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  • atlantis
    The United States is a terrorist nation,. and as such did not want Iraq to be proven innocent...
    they just wanted a war.
  • truthops2010
    The coverup was sealed when Nancy Traitor Pelosi took "impeachment off of the table" the day of, or the day after the midterm that landed her in the position of Speaker of the House. The American MSM is completely ignoring the implications of whatever information scraps are revealed from the British inquiry/coverup. Just like the Downing Street Memos were ignored – except for the chorus of commentary that it was just old news – so too, even glaring revelations will be ignored. Obama, nor the Blue Dogged power center of the Democratic Party, want to hold anyone accountable. It is all just a political equation for them, which makes them just as culpable in the crimes.
  • harvest
    Yes, well, we all know how they used their 'pearl harbor event'.
    Interestingly enough however is the idea that if there was ever a comprehensive investigation into how the invasion was in motion long before their event took place it would no doubt lead to their involvement.
    Someone please just show me the massive plane debris that should have been at the pentagon.
    This thing is so big there is no one that wants it seeing any daylight.
  • Without anybody to fight a boxer will have to wash cars to earn a living. It is the same with workers in the defense industry, they have to find somebody to fight or they will be preparing burgers in a fast food restaurant. Capturing and killing the ghost of al-Qaeda is a pursuit that is endless. Millions of imagined enemies will die because women in America must be wined and dined. Darwin was right, he observed that life is a bloody battle for good sex. His wisdom was based on the fact that Mother Nature rewards the victor with an irresistible vagina, and the loser is left with four fingers and a thumb.
  • howiebledsoe
    There is no doubt in my mind now that the planes were hijacked by Alquaida operatives.
    What they didn´t know was that the planes were drone planes fitted out like commercial passenger planes. As soon as they took the planes over, the planes went into remote control mode. It makes the most sence, and gives the pentagon a bigger lee-way to cover it´s tracks.
  • imwc
    coverup?...inside job/?...YES!...now let`s start the prosecutions, and hangings when they are found guilty...!...
  • Eyeball_Kid
    I don't know if it was Meyer who is making certain assumption from which to draw the conclusion that the war with Iraq was started to change the Hussein regime. Whoever implied or stated it is wrong.

    It's all about the money, damn it. Stop throwing in this personal vendetta, or whatever, as a reason to get rid of Hussein. It's all about the oil. Bush 41 softened up Iraq, Clinton went about weakening it further with sanctions, some of which killed kids, and Bush 43 went in for the kill.

    That's what happened. It's not much of a mystery.

    Things didn't go as planned, but it's not over.
  • Eyeball_Kid
    The point to this article is that Rice was one of many in the Bush Administration who had expressed a desire to intervene in Iraq's affairs before or during the 9/11 crisis.

    This is another example of a desire on the part of the pro-Oil Bush Administration, from Bush downward, to grab Iraq's oil and use the 9/11 events as a red herring.
  • selmo22
    is there not enough evidence to AT LEAST bring these f"ckers to trial? There is more than enough government proven malfeasance on both sides of the pond to make a conclusive case.
  • m3t
    In the year 2001, the Taleban had pretty much eradicated Opium cultivation and had blocked the Caspian Pipeline project. They were destorying future profits of the CIA and western oil companies.

    The CIA knew it would be hard to sell the invasion and ousting of the Taleban, they couldn't really say they wanted to invade Afghanistan to reduce oil export costs from the middle-east and to resurrect opium production.

    During the Summer of 2001, they made plans to topple the Taleban, that much was on-record and is documented... but they still needed to find a way to convince the general public that an invasion was necessary.

    At this point they had already received intel (anyone remember Wesley Clark raising the issue of the intel warnings that seemed to be ignored?!) to suggest that Osama Bin Laden was intending to attack the US. Now all they had to do was sit back and let it happen, associate Bin Laden with the Taleban in Afghanistan (ignoring that he is a Saud and ignoring that he was in a Pakistani hospital under guard of Pakistan's ISI they day before 9/11) and they would have their reason.

    Within months of this planning, the CIA's old database of Mujahadeen fighters (a database the CIA gave the name "Al-Qaeda" to) were about to be a feared name around the world, despite the fact that there never was a group of people officially calling themselves "Al-Qaeda".

    Exactly how and why the attack credited to Bin Laden occurred at the exact same time as "war game" training drills occurred remains a mystery.

    The funding of this and Mohammed Atta's involvement was ignored and deemed insignifant by the 9/11 Commission. It's also a mystery as to why this was the case, we know Atta was meeting several US officials/politicians in the days prior to 9/11 but beyond that, not much is known.

    As for Iraq, you merely need to look at it's oil reserves and potential and the fact it had one of the larger military forces in the middle east... to understand why so many lies were made to justify invading it.

    We were lied to by an (at-the-time) unelected president (at least unelected the first time and who knows with Diebold, etc. maybe the 2nd time too?) who was friends with the oil industry, banking cartels, CIA, etc. and whose family have been involved in planning coups, the central banking scam, theft from other people's savings and so on, deceived into a war that resulted in at least 100,000 documented civilian deaths (and probably hundreds of thousands of undocumented) and thousands of military deaths and millions of severe injuries... ALL BASED ON DECEPTION FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FEW.
  • SynGas
    Hmm. Powering a 1.6 liter air cooled VW engine with 5 volts and 2 amps (that's just 10 watts), water and 7 Liters per minute of HHO gas to get you almost 150 mpg of water... Key might be in the gas processor. that's the claim at this link- now you try to figure it out:

    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/...
  • SynGas
    If Stan Meyer were allowed to mass produce Water Fuel Cells and sell them to the public at $1500 a piece back in 1998 so everyone could opt to run their car on Water, the Middle East would have less conflict today. Clean house heat and electricity as well, plus space travel as Water is a perfect medium for fuel and HHO is very potent. However Oil Stocks would not have soared. Don't fear the Age of Aquarius.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5afwEcZ3Ok
  • reuterspiel
    9/11 was a event orchestrated by certain elements of our government, conveniently used to promote and justify the wars and the theft of foreign resources. The "war on terror" is a sham, it's an excuse for continued agression by the US government and an effective tool in misleading the population. The mass media plays an important role in this mass deception, playing the themes of "patriotism" and " freedom" while Americans are in reality enlsaved to banks, credit card companies and the IRS.

    The people of this great nation will not stand for this oppression, they will rise up and overthrow the corrupt government, and punish the criminals that hijacked our land once they connect the dots. Good luck to you then Axis of Evil(Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld), Be on your way, keep warm and well fed.
  • ccokz
    the headline is crap on the front page:
    Condoleezza Rice 'had sights sets on Iraq' as 9/11 unfolded

    she had set, not she had sets. headsets praps?
  • texasaggie
    Continuing the discussion about OIL (Operation Iraqi Liberation), don't forget that of the few documents that have leaked from Cheney's discussion with the oil people about an energy plan, one was a map of Iraq showing the oil fields. It lends credence to the hypothesis that the plans to invade Iraq were already well under way long before 9/11.
  • Independentgal
    This is all crap. Bush had planned to invade and occupy Iraq since 1999, if he should ever become president, so he could be seen as a "great leader" in wartime. All he needed was a war. I agree that it was mostly about oil, but I believe he was also trying to outdo his father, like a 6-year-old trying to better Daddy.

    The link below shows us the real Bush (not that we need to be shown again) and how he wanted to go to war with Iraq.

    He was playing games with the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. He is a war criminal. He should be prosecuted as such, in my opinion.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01...
  • dotmafia
    they've so much to answer for.

    why isn't congress demanding answers, what are they afraid of? is it because it would threaten to reveal that both the democrats and republicans are directly complicit in the planning, execution and conduct of the former adminstrations supreme crime of international aggression?

    answers, and the truth, as much as can be known -- for the american and british peoples, whose sons and daughters have shed life and spilled blood believing that their political and military leaders would not mislead.

    the people deserve nothing less.
  • mschlee
    Try 'Em & Fry 'Em


    FREE AMERICA

    REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
  • jongold
    And people say we're crazy for thinking that elements within our Government were complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Even when some of them acted like Iraq was all part of the "plan" after the 9/11 attacks took place. What qualifies as suspicious behavior? I mean C'MON.
  • jongold
    And people say we're crazy for thinking that elements within our Government were complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Even when some of them acted like Iraq was all part of the "plan" after the 9/11 attacks took place. What qualifies as suspicious behavior? I mean C'MON.
  • mick
    "On September 11, 2001, Rice reportedly told Meyer that "there's no doubt this was an Al-Qaeda operation [but] we are just looking to see if there could possibly be any connection with Saddam Hussein.""

    NO DOUBT ! NO INVESTIGATION BUT "NO DOUBT" give me a fricken break Kinda Sleazy Rice warned Mayor Willie Brown not to fly on 911 (the day before) SHE IS INVOLVED .
  • Phil E. Drifter
    it's no surprise, it was decided long before Bush2 stole his first election. It was in PNAC sinc '97.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    No shit, that was the plan. Like, ahem, 'poopypants' says, the whole point of any attention to the middle east is the oil. Once the oil is gone we'll have no need for them, so lets bleed it dry post-haste, then we can readily nuke the living fuck out of them, and re-legalize hemp/cannabis to power our engines, as both Ford and Diesel proved a century ago with their hemp-oil-powered vehicles.
  • poopypants
    The Iraq war was, is and always will be about OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL, repeat until dead.

    No country in the world would have any reason to do business in the Middle East if not for energy, and specifically OIL. No country in the world, outside the Middle East, gives a fuck about the Middle East. This is not rocket science, really very simple.

    Once the OIL is gone, or the world goes to shit and oil is no longer used/needed/whatever, once again, no one will care about the Middle East.

    Hate to upset anyone, but everything in the Middle East exists due to OIL.

    Needless to say, Condi and the rest of the gang should be prosecuted, but we all know how that's going.

    What's the fucking point anymore? The US will do what it wants, when it wants, and voting dem or repub will obviously not change that. Whatever.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    that's why me must vote 3rd party.

    yeah who am i kidding.

    The office of president is nothing more than a marionette box, controlled by Those Who Cannot Be Named.
  • Phil E. Drifter
    Glad to see at least ONE PERSON who knows what the fuck is going on!
  • reyrey
    They tried to prevent the Downing Street Memos from coming out too but that didn't work out so well.

    I'm putting my money on leaks daily. RawStory is at the ready to receive them. Tally ho!!
  • CondiNast
    Oh so I guess we are trying to say that she and Bush were fudging the details to fit their preconceived notion?

    I would like to thank Rawstory for so diligently covering Climategate too. They have really showed their ability to be a true Investigative News and Politics site. And Fauxnews has always been fair and balanced. The tooth fairy exists and Jesus will come again.
  • SharksBreath
    Only in an idiot Republcian world view would the illegal invasion and killing of hundreds of thousands of people be the same as one email talking about climate change.

    Idiots like you prove everyday Fox News is dangerous to your mental health.

    You idiot.
  • surgethis
    Condi with the oil tanker named after her ... which they quickly changed once she was installed in the Cheney White House. The whole thing was a set up by the elite ... to get control of the oil and dominate the region ... I believe they actually think that was more important to our security than the terror they created to justify the invasion.
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