US Catholic Church now playing political hardball, critics say

By Daniel Tencer
Friday, November 13th, 2009 -- 4:11 pm
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pope easter 2007 US Catholic Church now playing political hardball, critics sayIn its efforts to influence health care reform and oppose same-sex marriage, the Catholic Church is wading more deeply into politics than it has in recent memory, observers say.

The church's role in politics came into sharp relief this week when the Washington Post reported on Wednesday that the Washington, D.C., diocese threatened to cease its charitable activities if the D.C. city council went ahead with a plan to allow same-sex marriages.

The church's social services arm provides support to 68,000 people in the District of Columbia, among them the homeless and those in need of health care. It has received $8.2 million in funding from the D.C. government in the past three years, according to the city council.

Peter Rosenstein of the Campaign for All D.C. Families described the church's move as an attempt to "blackmail the city.

"The issue here is they are using public funds, and to allow people to discriminate with public money is unacceptable," Rosenstein told the Post.

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But church officials argue that D.C. city council's decision to reject an amendment that would have allowed people to refuse services to same-sex couples on religious grounds amounts to ignoring freedom of religion.

In this case, the church's pressure appears to be having a limited effect. The Associated Press reports that "most council members are refusing" to heed the church's pleas.

"Allowing individual exemptions opens the door for anyone to discriminate based on assertions of religious principle," Councilman Phil Mendelson told the AP. "Let's not forget that during the civil rights era, many claimed separation of the races was ordained by God."

Even other religious leaders have questioned the D.C. diocese's move.

"Yesterday, the leadership of the Catholic Church made clear that they are choosing a cynical political ploy over their call to serve the neediest among the community," said Rev. Dennis Wiley of the Covenant Baptist Church, as quoted by the Perez Hilton blog.

But the church may have had more success in influencing the shape of health care reform. In early October, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent a letter to Congress warning politicians that it would not support health care reform if that reform allowed taxpayers' money to fund abortions.

A month later, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a health care reform bill that included the Stupak amendment, which bans health insurance plans that offer abortion services from participating in a public exchange. Critics of the amendment say it could actually reduce access to abortions, if health insurers decide to reduce abortion coverage so that they can participate in the public health plan.

The church's involvement in the health care debate "represents an uncharacteristic foray into outright lobbying," writes lobbying affairs reporter Timothy P. Carney at the Washington Examiner. "Similarly, the church has been consistent in voicing its opposition to gay marriage, but this week's direct confrontation with D.C.'s city council over the issue is out of the ordinary."

The church's involvement in health reform has now become personal for Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI), nephew of President John F. Kennedy, who is embroiled in a political battle with Thomas Tobin, the bishop of Providence, Rhode Island.

After Kennedy criticized the church's stance on health care reform, Tobin stated that Kennedy, a member of America's most prominent Catholic political family, should be refused communion.

As the Associated Press notes, Kennedy is one of numerous politicians and government officials who have become targets of the Catholic Church. Joseph Naumann, archbishop of Kansas City, has said that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius should be refused communion for supporting abortion rights. Raymond Burke, the former archbishop of St. Louis, made a similar statement with respect to former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who is divorced.

But the Examiner's Carney argues that, from the church's point of view, the church may have no choice but to fight these battles as America shifts towards more liberal attitudes on issues like gay marriage.

The battles in which the church finds itself embroiled today are not simply about the underlying moral issues -- abortion and gay marriage -- but about more aggressive policies that might restrict the ability of the church and of individual Catholics to act according to Catholic teachings.

Because the health care bill in Congress would create new subsidies for private health insurance, it would have subsidized abortions if not for the Stupak amendment preventing subsidies for insurance plans that cover abortion. ... In other words, it would force opponents of legal abortion to act against their conscience simply by paying taxes.

Yet not all the church's battles can be described as wars of necessity. Last month, Timothy Dolan, the new archbishop of New York, wrote a scathing criticism of The New York Times for what he perceived as the newspaper's "anti-Catholicism." Among other things, Dolan argued that the Catholic Church makes it into the news consistently over child sex abuse scandals, while similar problems plaguing other religious communities are ignored.

Clark Hoyt, the Times' public editor, rejected that criticism.

"Could the newspaper sometimes choose a better word in a story or pay more attention to transgressions in other parts of society? Yes. Has it been guilty of anti-Catholicism? I don't buy it."

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  • mcquaidLA
    Carl Johnson,
    Speaking as someone who was raised in the Church by very committed parents, after seeing this latest stunt from the bishops, I'm tempted to put the match to the Church myself. If you really think that it's okay to grant the church taxpayer money and then allow it to discriminate in who it will help is okay, then you've clearly misplaced the mind God gave you.

    Let's be clear about this; the Church can teach whatever it likes and Catholics are free to believe whatever they like, but at the point where the Church starts accepting public money and trying to influence public outcomes, it sacrifices its right to complete sovereignty. I'll be damned if my taxes go to support discrimination and papal interference in women's rights.
  • ChristStainedAmerika
    The filthy catholic church and its Nazi Pedophile pope are attempting to recreate its glory days of hate & persecution of minorities when it was snuggly in bed with Nazi Germany.
  • lorn
    Some might say your remarks are extreme. I would simply add that the Nazis in fact did not lose WW2, but rather the German people lost.

    The Nazi power base already had a strong beachhead in the USA with Prescott Bush, and pals being well established and largely in control. Thanks only to American hero Smedley Butler, the Nazi menace in the US had been temporarily defeated.
    Have a listen to the whole story from BBC radio....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/do...

    Why is there not one school in the entire USA named after Smedley Butler? Not one road, not one airport, nothing?

    After WW2 the Nazi head office moved to Washington DC and the OSS soon to be CIA received and employed all the 'best' Nazis.
    That shadow government has ruled the US since then except for that brief hope filled (real hope, not the modern fake kind) period in the early 1960's. Since they murdered Kennedy, they have not lost their grip on our nation.
    With the brazen acts of the war criminal Bush now being followed up by more of the same from Obama, clearly the Nazis are more emboldened than ever. And sadly their lies, the real whoppers Goebbels talked about are still believed by the masses today.

    The Church of Rome is the gateway to Hell.
  • philedrifter
    Prescott Bush made millions selling steel to Nazi Germany before he was forced to resign over conflict of interest when The US entered WW2.
    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09...
    The Best Enemies Money Can Buy

    From Hitler To Saddam Hussein to Osama bin Laden - Insider Connections and the Bush Family's Partnership with Killers of Americans

    Brown Brothers, Harriman - BNL- and the Carlyle Group
  • This is the truth: I used to go to church since I was a child until I got married, had kids, and still went. One day, I looked around and said to myself: "This is a bunch of bullshit!" And I never went back. That was almost 20 years ago. You can believe in God, but religion is not the same thing as God. I don't believe in religion, it's man made bullshit, misinterpretations, purpose misinterpretations, just as much if not more corruption than outside of church. Except they're saying God is somehow guiding them. Bullshit. Chanting, stand, sit, kneel, angels, giant hats, fancy sticks... ALL religions, not just Catholics, btw...Jews, Muslims, all of them: bullshit. Come on! It's all made up bullshit! They made it up! The proof they're made up, is that there's thousands and thousands of religions. And religions that stick their noses in politics, why aren't they taxed? How are they getting away with this? We're having a financial crisis and we need to tax religions!

    Notice, too, the church is stepping into health care...but NOT pushing for single payer or health care for all, they're BLACKMAILING threatening to not help the helpless if they don't get what they want!
  • dolly lanna
    The Catholic Church is way out of line. Their tax exempt status should be stripped. They are like the extremo christians, acting so un-god like and not thinking about the people, the poor, the sick, but of their out of date rules. Shame on them. I am no longer a Catholic because of their hypocritical views. What a waste of my young life on Saturday Catacisim instead of playing I was being fed propaganda from the church. I never did buy into it.
  • marxymcliberalson
    Imagine if Jesus said he wasn't going to heal any of the sick until the pharisees and sadduccees and priests conceded to his demands!
  • TheCFiles
    What is going on with the Roman Catholic Church??

    I have been Roman Catholic practically since birth. But I had to stop attending my Church a year ago, when they started pushing Prop 8 on all of us and made it clear they were against gay marriage (Civil Rights for thousands of gay people in CA).

    I have been on the fence since then, not knowing what to do and hoping time would work itself out. I didn't know if I should just go back, and try to enjoy the Mass without worrying about the politics or stand by my princples. Guess which has won out..

    Now, after reading an article about this very issue in the San Diego Union Tribune recently, I have no real doubts in my mind that I cannot go back. Maybe this was the sign I needed to know for sure.

    How can a Christian religion, that normally helps the less fortunate and lobbies for justice in the work place as missions for the Church, do something like this. How can they intentionally threaten, try to manipulate and control the politics of an entire city by withdrawing desperately needed assistance from almost 70,000 people in DC. All over the simple concept of following legislation that is righteous in not allowing discrimination in the workplace for gay people.

    For a Church that considers helping the needy and workplace fairness it's primary missions, this is hardly beneficial to either. Just the opposite. And why are they being dishonest, and distorting the truth by trying to blame it on the city for 'forcing them to be Secular'. That is ridiculous, no one is forcing the RCC to be Secular! They are simply asking EVERYONE Christian or Secular, to respect the Civil Rights of all people and not discriminate unfairly against gay people with workplace benefits. That is very reasonable, and I don't understand why the RCC is taking such a terrible stance on this issue.

    What are they so afraid of? Acknowledging that gay people are actual human beings who deserve exactly the same equality, fairness and benefits as everyone else? Gee, that sounds like a Christian concept to me!

    I am shocked and appalled at the Roman Catholic Church for making these threats, and for putting some misguided political ideologies over helping thousands of poor and homeless in Washington, DC. That does not a Christian Church make.

    I guess that clinches it for me. I won't be going back to Mass anytime soon, and after hearing about this most likely never. It was bad enough when they tried to shove Prop 8 down our throats, and assume we would all support it and vote for it without letting us make up our own minds. But now this-to take such an Un-Christian stand by threatening to withdraw crucial support to thousands because they don't want to follow a fair, equitable non-discrimination law for the work place?

    I'm afraid I am fed up with the recent politics of my own religion. WHY are they so opposed to same sex marriage, it's about people wanting a legal and moral commitment rather than 'living in sin'; so you'd think Christian religions would support gay marriage.

    Fortunately Ihave been doing research, and the Episcopalian Church is much betterĀ suited to my values of fairness and equal Civil Rights for all. They were firmly against Prop 8, and I salute them for that. Maybe that is ultimately where I belong.
  • doolindalton
    As a former Catholic myself, I share in your struggle to understand so many things about the Catholic Church and have come to the conclusion that I never have and never will, but no one can say that I didn't try! Ironically since leaving organized religion....I now find myself closer to a divine energy or Great Spirit than ever before. I remember before the elections my mother telling me that "father so and so" ripped the congregation during a long winded sermon basically threatening them with mortal sin if they voted for Obama....I could not believe it!! I hear they are now 'recruiting' people to become Catholic because obviously they're losing parishoners left and right ( well probably more left ; ) I read your above comment about Pope Benedict having a negative effect on the church...I agree....something about that man makes me very uncomfortable to the point of being scary. Oh and by the way I heard Rev. Gene Robison, the openly gay Bishop of New Hampshires Episcopalian Church on NPR the other day and he was wonderful!!! The man was filled with love and light!!
  • starvapor
    Screw holy tax exemptions...
    If the church chooses to get involved in politics then it's time they provide direct irrefutable evidence that god exist, in a court of law, or start paying taxes like the rest of us.
    Organizes religion has been allowed take tax shelters behind their god delusions far too long.
  • vatican taliban ... empty pews must be driving this activism ...
  • carljonson
    Anti Catholicism has always been the way of the land. It was illegal to be Catholic in New York for example. How about the Catholic Churches and Convents being burned down. I could go on. The New York Times is just another current acceptable medium for Anti-Catholicism. I agree with Archbishop Dolan.

    As far as the Church getting into politics, do they have another choice? How else can the Church defend the moral teachings?

    Homosexuality is not wrong or evil. The act is unnaturally and therefore immoral. Same sex marriage is just an oxymoron because by definition marriage is the union of man and women.

    The media likes to sensationalize the wrong doings of a small percentage of priests but the Church as whole do so much good for society.

    I think the Archdiocese of Washington threatening to suspend its social services is a strong message. The Church does so much, don't put it in a precarious situation like the council is doing with the religious exemptions imposed on the bill.

    The Church will be open to litigation based on moral differences when it comes to adotpion or ohter services if the Church refuses a homosexual couple, for example.

    I am glad to see the Church step up. I am tired of it being a doormat if ignorant people who what to see it crumble.

    The Church has been here for a long time and it will continue because it is built on a rock. The rock of St. Peter and his successor's guided by the Holy Spirit.

    Depsite the faults and failures of man, in the end, God is heading the Church.

    Keep fighting for the Truth!
  • WJM51
    Carl, Carl, Carl... So much myopia, so little time.

    The church, ALL churches in this country, get a tax exempt status specifically on the promise that they stay OUT of politics. The fact that the Catholics seem intent to make everyone in their own image says to the that they need to lose that status. And yes, the church DOES have another choice. It can do what Christ said to do, and stop preaching violence and hatred from the pulpit, for example.

    Your statement about homosexuality not being wrong, but being immoral kind of strikes me as being two faces. Immorality by it's definition is what society considers wrong. As to it being unnatural, it might be for you, and it is for me, but for others, it's far more natural (whatever that means) than being with someone of the opposite sex. How about a working definition of what "unnatural" is? If it's not natural, then how do you explain the fact that gays have ALWAYS existed? And with such hate and prejudice against them, why would anyone WANT to admit they are gay? If it's such a choice, tell me when YOU made that decision. I never had to, my brain did it for me. And I've never heard anyone who was gay say that they decided to be gay. They just always knew they were. I knew when I was about 5. They all said about the same thing.

    The church isn't being told to worship gays, it's being told to treat them like everyone else. Isn't that what Christ said to do? How many times did Christ mention gays? How about NONE? He also said that when someone slaps your left cheek offer them your right. Don't discriminate against them, treat them like HUMAN BEINGS.

    That shouldn't be so much to ask from someone who says they follow a man who said that.
  • carljonson
    Violence and hatred? Where is that preached? The church accepts
    homosexuals and treats them as equals.

    When politics start imposing themselves on the moral teachings of the church
    then they are blurring the lines Church and State. Like other
    denominationsare not involved in politics. Please, there is no seperating
    it nor should it be. The men and women of that serve our country hopefully
    are guided by the moral values which are going to come form the faiths they
    follow.

    The natural function of the sextual act is for procreation. The penis and
    the vagina are complimentary. The egg is fertilized by the sperm. That is
    natrual. The Penis in the anus is unnatural. Two Vaginas is unnatural.

    If you subscribe to freud most of our character is learned before we are 3.
    Most men are gay because they were raised by a single parent (mother). The
    behaviors of homosexuals are learned from the lispy talk and limp wrists and
    feninine walk. That is not how a man walks and talks.

    I read so much negativity about the Catholic church and yet most of what I
    heard is based on false pretenses. The church teaches to love all people no
    matter what there orientation is.

    Again, marriage is the union of man and woman. The sacrament of marriage is
    to recognize two becoming one flesh for the procreation and continuation of
    man kind.

    Please learn about the Catholic teachings before condemning it.
  • WJM51
    Where are violence and hatred preached? All over the country, that is where. When you have people going around rewriting the Bible so that all the "liberal" ideas are taken out of it, I'd say that things are pretty screwed up. The church treats gays like equals? Oh, REALLY? Then why can't gays marry who they choose? And why can't they be priests? So much for equality.

    I know how sex works. I also know that you still haven't defined the term "natural". You just use it. But you have shown me that you are one of those people who thinks that sex shouldn't be done because it's fun or enjoyable, or even because it helps to build strength in a relationship. If I marry someone at my age (51), the LAST Thing I want is kids. Does that invalidate my marriage? It does by your definition. And what about the rest of those who are married and don't want or can't have kids? Are THEIR marriages null and void?

    Your idea of gays being a product of fatherless homes is 100% BULLSHIT. Damn near every gay I've ever known didn't have a father once they came out, but before that, they most certainly did. Man, you folks will believe ANYTHING, won't you?

    As to negativity towards the church, too damn bad. That is kind of what you get when you start the crusades, support the Nazis and interject yourself in the political workings of a country that gives you breaks for NOT doing so. And for the record, I DO know about the Catholic Church, thank you. All too well.

    And I suggest that you do some research of your own and learn about where marriage actually came from. Originally it was a way for men to get rid of their daughters and get paid for it, and for another man to get a wife, which really meant piece of property, very similar to a slave. It was a LEGAL thing, NOT a religious one.

    One last thing, I seriously doubt that we will ever be in need of MORE people. There is no shortage, and there is not likely to be one in the near future. Perhaps the idea should be to take better care of the ones we have now BEFORE we go bringing more unwanted people into the world. And THAT would be a stance of your church that I would respect. I just don't see it.
  • TheCFiles
    Actually, I believe that people are leaving the Roman Catholic Church currently, due to their recent aggressive politics to ban gay marriage and a woman's right to choose. They have changed considerably with Pope Benedict, and in a negative direction.

    I myself am Roman Catholic, but had to stop attending since before last year's election due to their insistence on denying Civil Rights to gay people. I haven't gone back, and now reading this probably never will.

    I am looking into the Episcopalian Church, and apparently there are a lot of pepole making the journey "from Rome to Canterbury" meaning transitioning from RCC to Episcopalian. They even have classes on it.

    There are people leaving the RCC now, trust me. Many in my own Church were very angry over how they pushed Prop 8 on us. I believe this 'lessening of the ranks' may be part of the reason the Vatican is suddenly making the drastic step of allowing scores of Episcopalians who are anti-gay and anti-gay rights to join the RCC. Even allowing their married priests to be ordained as Catholic Priests!

    Obviously they are desperate for more Church members, and trying to bolster their ranks with a stronger anti-gay rights congregation. Thus, I doubt I will be going back to my own Church as things seem to be getting worse, not better there.
  • carljonson
    Sorry. I meant to reply to that point about sex and being important for a a
    relationship. You are right it is important. Sex is very important for a
    relationship between a husband and wife.
  • doolindalton
    I was born, raised and educated Catholic and let me tell YOU that as a 15 year old sexual assault victim....I WALKED YOUR WALK and chose to have my baby. Catholic Charities of course TOOK him and HID him from me the minute they cut the cord. But you want to know the kicker, after all of that, my Priest told me to my face that "I was a disgrace to my family". Needless to say....I am no longer Catholic....how about them teachings carl.
  • damixaustex
    "When politics start imposing themselves on the moral teachings of the church
    then they are blurring the lines Church and State."
    It's quite the other way around here, isn't it? Married Heterosexual couples are treated as a superior class of citizens in the eyes of the Church and State, largely due to the Church influence.

    DC is finding that the will of the people may very well be that the Church is incorrect in it's view of bonding or coupling.

    It wouldn't be the first time for the Catholic Church to figure out that it's forefathers had left a culture of following doctrine that was designed merely to focus power and create a line of authority.

    I respect your idyllic view of male female bonding and I honor you for your conviction to procreation.

    But, not everyone thinks like you do and DC is a big city.

    "The natural function of the sextual act is for procreation."

    The natural function of the "sextual act" is to respond to stimuli and achieve an orgasm. Late in human development, recent, really, the "Church" (initially, a bunch of village leaders, I assume) decided it should be for procreation only.
    You have a much more narrow view than you think, and I ask respectfully that you do some research yourself. What is the source of the doctrine that says the "sextual act" is for procreation?
  • westietra1
    May be your priest should learn that it not within the churches teaching to rape little boys by placing there penis in little boys as well and for the pope and the bishops to cover it up is against the law as well .
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