Helen Thomas warns Obama on Fox: ‘You can’t kill the messenger’

By David Edwards and Daniel Tencer
Monday, October 19th, 2009 -- 9:05 am
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helenthomasbarackobamabirthday Helen Thomas warns Obama on Fox: You cant kill the messengerHelen Thomas, the longest-serving White House correspondent in the Washington press corps, has a few choice words for President Barack Obama in his battle against Fox News: "Stay out of these fights."

Speaking on MSNBC's Morning Joe, the Hearst Newspapers columnist, who as White House correspondent has covered every president since John F. Kennedy, told Obama: "They can only take you down. You can't kill the messenger."

Thomas was speaking after yet another round of Sunday talk shows in which senior White House staffers blasted Fox News for its coverage of their administration. That follows a month of what amounts to a White House boycott of Fox News, ever since the Fox network failed to run the president's address on health care to a joint session of Congress in September.

Host Joe Scarborough played clips of senior presidential adviser David Axelrod declaring that Fox "is not really news," while White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told the media Fox News is "not a news organization so much as it has a perspective."

Donny Deutsch, a former advertising executive and MSNBC host, told Scarborough that the White House shouldn't even mention Fox by name. Not mentioning your opponent's name is "marketing 101," he said.

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"They are elevating Fox," Deutsch said. "Think about this. It's the president of the United States, the commander of the free world, versus a television network with a couple million viewers."

Scarborough, himself a former US House representative, pointed out that Fox's ratings have been "through the roof" since the White House began attacking it by name. "What did the Bush White House do when they were compared to Nazis and fascists? The Bush White House did nothing, they didn't elevate it."

But Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski disagreed with that line of argument, saying the White House's portrayal of Fox News as the official voice of the opposition "may be strategically smart."

"I think that perhaps it might be easier for them and strategically better down the road if the White House takes on these illegitimate Republican props, as opposed to someone who has real ideas who can take on White House policies," she said.

For his part, Scarborough said he believed the White House spat with Fox was simply the administration playing to its base.

"They attack Rush Limbaugh, they attack Glenn Beck, they attack all of these other people because they know their hard core base is going to love it, their hard core base is going to salivate. And they know they're not going to give them what they want when it comes to policy. They're not going to be able to shut down Gitmo the way they promised, they're not going to be able to get out of Iraq the way they promised. So what they're doing is playing to their hard core base."

Both Scarborough and Deutsch pointed out that, in fact, the Bush White House also had a policy of avoiding unfriendly media outlets -- such as MSNBC.

And "John McCain's campaign did the same thing," Scarborough said. "They went to the network chiefs and said, 'We're not coming'."

And in a very telling aside, Deutsch noted: "I don't think the American public understands the behind-the-scenes that goes on between Washington and the media. If they did, I think that's the way to kill their credibility."

This video is from MSNBC's Morning Joe, broadcast Oct. 19, 2009.



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  • davidrvelasquez
    I still think it should count for something wnen the White House jabs at the credibility of a network.

    Unfortunately critical thinking seems to be at an alltime low in the US.
    People know more about the offspring of celebrities than they do about the issues of the day.
  • Adam west
    I agree with Helen Thomas and she was probably one of the best correspondents that ever served the public. She didn't protect the government and continued to question the politicians until they finally decided to ignore her because they were afraid to expose the truth of what is going on in Washington. In fact, she is no longer asked by polticians for her questions or input.
    The politicians aren't interested in what their constituents want to know but what they can do to fill their pockets - there in it for their own agenda. Kudos to Helen and God bless this lady.
  • I heartily concur. But I tend to think that Mika is right in this case, and the BHO admin is great in part because they are breaking the mold, and rightly abandoning the habits of the past, which I consider a disease of the society, that just goes along with the tide of bullshit that gushes forth out of the Right Wing ever since Rush began on radio, and ramped up further with Fox.

    Enough of the bullshit! From now on, we calls it like we sees it! That is so over!
  • dav10
    Hey Helen if you and the rest of the Real News would expose Fox News for what they are maybe you wouldn't have to be upset at the President doing YOUR job for you
  • She herself has never failed to do that, if only by contradicting them, razor-like. The others are a different story, like say, Chris Matthews saying "We're all NeoCons now" on the verge of the Iraq bombardment. He'd like to forget that comment.
  • missskeptic
    How is pointing out the lies of Beck and Limbaugh in any way an "attack"?

    The Fox Bullet Point Network has gone on long enough without refutation. It's about time someone stood up them and what passes for "news".
  • Canadian guest
    Sorry, but when were Beck and Limbaugh ever considered "news"casters? They are entertainment the same as MSNBC with their nightly roundup and CNN with their nightly roundup. If you consider them the teller of "news" then there is something wrong with what people actually call "news" now. This is more a turf fight between those that favour Obama and those that don't. This has nothing to do with "news" but with "opinions".
  • I didn't see this until I posted the above, but yeah. Exactly.
  • pakaal
    "They attack Rush Limbaugh, they attack Glenn Beck, they attack all of these other people because they know their hard core base is going to love it, their hard core base is going to salivate."

    That's projection, IMO. The Right seems much more energized by emotional appeals (with lack of substance) than the Left.

    If Fox was only "the messenger" I might agree more with Thomas, but they not only give the message, they write the message as well.
  • sanchosdad
    i cant wait for ailes, oreilly and the rest of them to get brought up on federal indictments for whatever they can be brought up on.

    have fun in prison, boys. with your good looks and charisma, i am sure that you will be the belle of the ball.
  • turnip
    "And in a very telling aside, Deutsch noted: "I don't think the American public understands the behind-the-scenes that goes on between Washington and the media. If they did, I think that's the way to kill their credibility."

    ^^ This just needs to be reposted, . . . I thought I'd oblige.
  • MariaB
    I disagree profoundly with this. When such a huge percentage of people are relying on this as their primary "news" source, it's correct to draw a line in the sand. They didn't get angry, they didn't lose their cool.

    They just pointed out that it's not a news network. Which it ain't.
  • absolutely
  • overdoneputaforkinit
    The WH should respond to Fox News with backbone. Historically the Democrats have reacted to criticize by ignoring it, and this hasn't worked. Otherwise, the WH should not provoke Fox News, as that plays to divisiveness in the country.
  • mrneutron
    Helen is from a different Era, she doesn't realize the Wingnuts bought their own Network to preach to the Morons.

    Obama should pull their FCC license, let them scream about it on the radio.
  • oh, come on — <tsk!>
  • harry johnson
    fox is not news. It is propaganda. The Obama administration is just stating facts. Helen is wrong. fox is not the messenger. They are pretending to be a news organization while they wage war against the president. As long as you treat them as a real news organization they are given legitimacy. They do not do honest reporting. They never will. It is time to quit pretending otherwise.
  • rhetoricus
    FOX is not "the media" in the traditional news sense. It is partisan propaganda. And good for the WH for pointing it out. And stupid of Thomas for not recognizing the difference.
  • missskeptic
    The people who watch Fox THINK they are watching actual news, which not only makes them ignorant, but keeps them ignorant. They are spoon-fed opinions that they already agree with and want to hear. They don't want to hear dissension that might indicate their opinions are wrong.
  • Satan
    Lol, Fox isn't news, reporting on Fox isn't news, MSNBC isn't news, news readers reporting on news readers isn't news. This isn't news, just more of the daily vomit. Fox and MSNBC both do one thing very very well, and that's not talking about the war.
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