Judge rules FBI can continue to gag recipient of National Security Letter

By Raw Story
Tuesday, October 20th, 2009 -- 7:01 pm
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gp fbi 1106 Judge rules FBI can continue to gag recipient of National Security LetterA federal judge ruled late Tuesday that the government can continue to gag an internet servicer provider who received a National Security Letter from the FBI -- five years ago.

Under the Patriot Act, the FBI can use such letters to demand personal records about customers from internet providers, financial institutions and credit card companies without a warrant, and then keep the companies from disclosing even that they'd received such a letter.

The ruling came in a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and the New York Civil Liberties Union on behalf of the ISP. The government maintains that revealing information about the letter could compromise ongoing investigations, even though the letter itself was sent five years ago and has been the subject of press accounts.

"We're deeply disappointed that the court ruled that the FBI can continue to gag our John Doe client, who has been silenced for more than five years," Melissa Goodman, staff attorney with the ACLU National Security Project, said in a release. "This gag – which we continue to believe is unnecessary and unconstitutional – has prohibited Doe from participating in the public debate about the Patriot Act and has been used to suppress key information about the FBI's misuse of NSLs. The FBI's overuse of the NSL gag power has allowed the FBI to manipulate the surveillance debate and to deprive Congress and the public of crucial information that would inform the ongoing congressional debate about this intrusive surveillance power."

The court also ruled that the FBI can continue to suppress an "attachment" to the NSL Doe received, the ACLU said. The ACLU "argued that the attachment, if disclosed, would show that the FBI tried to obtain records that it was not entitled to obtain under the NSL statute."

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The ACLU is prevented under the order from even disclosing their client's identity.

"The FBI continues to maintain the gag order even though the underlying investigation is more than five years old and even though the FBI abandoned its demand for records from the ISP over two years ago," the ACLU said.

"In December 2008, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ruled that parts of the NSL statute's gag provisions were unconstitutional, specifically the sections that wrongly placed the burden on NSL recipients to challenge gag orders, narrowly limited judicial review of gag orders and required courts to defer entirely to the executive branch," they continued. "The court of appeals sent the case back to the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York and ordered the government to justify the constitutionality of the gag on Doe. In June 2009, the government submitted its justification for the gag on Doe entirely in secret, in a classified declaration that even Doe's ACLU attorneys couldn't see. While the district court ordered the government to produce an unclassified summary, most of the evidence used to justify the continued gag on the ISP remains a secret."

"Continuing to impose a blanket gag order on our Doe client places a serious burden on his First Amendment rights. It is important that NSL recipients – those with first-hand knowledge of the FBI's actual use and abuse of its NSL power – be allowed to speak out," Larry Schwartztol, a staff attorney with the ACLU National Security Project, said in a statement.

Wired notes that the ISP's president wrote an anonymous letter to the Washington Post in 2007. In it, he wrote:

“Three years ago, I received a national security letter (NSL) in my capacity as the president of a small Internet access and consulting business. The letter ordered me to provide sensitive information about one of my clients. There was no indication that a judge had reviewed or approved the letter, and it turned out that none had. The letter came with a gag provision that prohibited me from telling anyone, including my client, that the FBI was seeking this information. Based on the context of the demand — a context that the FBI still won’t let me discuss publicly — I suspected that the FBI was abusing its power and that the letter sought information to which the FBI was not entitled.”

The ruling is available online here.

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  • buckqjohnson
    ACLU is correct, the FBI is using those letter to cover that they did do illegal activity. The judge doesn't want to accept that theory, he wants the ACLU to fight with both hands tied behind their backs and the FBI knows it. I see in 15 years or so we will get the whole truth and it will be horrible. That a conspiracy of the many was in the works.
  • m
    The FBI, as a part of the government, is not subject to any rules, limitations or law. I just can't understand how this even got to court. The FBI is there to protect us, and anything it does is for our own good. The FBI is law enforcement, and they could never do anything illegal. Just like Nixon, who said "When the President does something, it can't be a crime." So when the FBI does it, it can't be a crime, or even improper." /s
  • Notorious Kelly
    I don't always agree with the ACLU, but thank god they're around.

    If no one was challenging the fascist mainstream - imagine how much worse it might be.
  • miggy
    It is said that the government of the United States of America comes nearest of any on Earth to being an ideal government. No honest man understanding the conditions in the United States can claim that it is a satisfactory government. True its founders declared that all men are endowed with the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; but this ideal has never been realized by the people. True also that the founders of this government said that all just powers of government are derived from the consent of the people; but now the consent of the people is neither asked nor obtained. For some years after it was founded ,there was an attempt to carry into effect the announced principles of government; but never has it succeeded. The fundamental laws of the land declare that the people shall have freedom of speech, the right of peaceable assembly, the liberty of conscience without coercion, and the privilege to worship God according to the dictates of each one’s conscience. These rules of action are ideal, but they are denied daily by those who have and exercise the power of government. The officials of the United Sates government take a solemn oath to safeguard and protect the interest of the American people; but such oath is repeatedly violated by the officials, both high and low. The three primary branches of this government of the United States are the Legislative, the Executive and the Judicial; but it is well known that fraud and corruption are rampant in every one of these branches. It is true that there are honest men in all of these branches of government doing the best they know how; but the honest ones do not predominate, because the dishonest ones control affairs. There are two classes of government officials who indulge in the violation of laws, to wit, the caught and the uncaught. The weaker ones are caught and examples made of them for show. The stronger and more influential are not caught because there is no desire that they shall be hindered in their wrongful course. Government officials whose duty under the law is to ferret out and punish crime, is instead vigorous and active in the punishment of men who dare exercise their constitutional rights. Another cabinet official, sworn to protect and safeguard the property interest of the people, enters into a conspiracy with wicked profiteers to wrongfully deprive the people of their property; and for this he or she receives large bribes. Conscienceless profiteers who have, by fraud, acquired fabulous sums of money, a portion of which they use to corrupt the voters and government officials to the end that they may continue to carry on their wicked work. These corrupt and wicked men are really the power of government behind the scenes. The power of government is therefore in the hands of a few men whose god is money. And these men and all world governments are puppets of the true puppet master. SATAN the DEVIL
  • cmla
    the link to the ruling does not work
  • harlinredlands
    The judge who the writer (or editor) conveniently leaves out is Victor Marrero. I researched his opinions. He has some horrible opinions (dismissing a white collar crime, etc) , but at the same time he also has a few outstanding opinions (occasionally standing up to Bush 2 and Bush 3(obama).

    This particular opinion though.... was Victor Marrero threatened? He's not always corrupt, but this time he sure looks like it.

    PS THE REAL LINK FOR THE DECISION IS AT:
    http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nationalsecurityle...
  • Liz
    So the FBI broke the law and now a federal judge says no worries that is okay. We have and will continue to go down that slippery slope to what we feared most a country run by a government that does not have to follow the law. Will a federal court ever again stand up for the constitution?
  • Savantster
    .
    All of this crap... all of it.. just because 4 planes were off course for well over an hour and we did nothing about it.. then 2 of them hit some buildings and killed 3,000 people (a one time loss, even though we lose 45,000 a year in the name of profits for the few in just the health care world).. and our Constitution gets tossed? Trillions pumped into a war machine that helps those who were in High Office when it happened? Because of 3,000 dead. Trillions, and 4,000+ more dead soldiers, and probably over a million innocent people in some other country..

    there has to be something in the water or air or being blasted into our brains.. because what this country has gotten away with over the past 30 years is insane; and getting worse, it seems.
    .
  • kayttt2000
    Yes there is something being blasted in the water and air into our brains,,
    It's called Mk Ultra,,,
    Another day I'll talk about our water and what there doing...

    I'm A Rothschild/CIA Mk Ultra Victim that was there storage of deeds and there telephone line,,
    The 24/7 telephone line from April 2001 until Nov.2004, then the law tapped them on the shoulder..

    I don't know where to even begin with Robert Mueller lll and the FBI..
    Let's start with how in April 2001 via the internet the CIA announced they were in my home,,implying they were the United States Secret Service taking orders from Bush....
    Implying that I was in the middle of some really big investigation on the Yahoo Stock Market message boards..

    Unknown to me at this time was the technology called Mk Ultra....
    With this technology the CIA was spewing my life including my last name in media EVERYDAY...
    Along with discussing many things,,,this shows how there is more than one location with Mk Ultra...

    Immediately after the Nov 2004 elections the law tapped them on the shoulder..
    Then the war began on the behalf of the law to shield my brain from this technology,,along with the CIA working to scramble my memory,,,My brain was used to store YEARS of there deeds...
    Needless to say the CIA was in OMG phase and turned there entire arsenal of weapons upon me,,
    They say the most brutal of this technology is what was developed in the Soviet Union,,,Electrical Shock,,,
    The CIA didn't hestitate using this on me..

    So in Jan.2005 my head started to clear and I wanted help from this invasion in my life..
    So I emailed every Frikken FBI headquarters asking for help..
    I knew something ILLEGAL was being done to me and as the CIA implied Bush authorized this to me,,I emailed the FBI the following,,
    "Bush is Spying on Everybody Under the Heading of National Security for Political Reasons"..
    Then my letter explained how I and my life was being put in Media EVERYDAY...
    If you have payed attention you will recall how the New York Times broke the story about Bush Spying on everybody in Oct/Nov2005,,,
    I notified the FBI in Jan.2005..
    I emailed the FBI and then just about there entire Email Service went down..

    I then wrote letters to every FBI headquarters asking for help..3-4-5 times asking for help..
    No response,,I then went and bought 50 tape recorder discs and recorded my message...
    I then went to the Mpls FBI headquarters and told them story...They responded with will take it under consideration...

    Robert Muller lll had a REALLY BIG PROBLEM..
    He knew I had a GOOD agency of REAL Law in my life,
    He was aware of Mk Ultra type technologies.
    He knew the Rothschild(the 100 Trillion Dollar family) with the CIA were guilty of this crime..
    Probably the Rockefellers too,,,
    He also had a problem because I wrote every FBI director and there not all corrupt...along with actually visiting and FBI headquarters...

    So what did the schmuck do,,,?
    He had a Chris out of Rochester,Mn call me around March/April 2001 and ask me,,
    "Are you threatening the President?"
    Of course I said No and this scared the heck out of me and that was there intent...

    Now whether the Good law did this to calm me down,,or the Mueller to scare me more,,I don't know.
    But it calmed me down..
    In May 2005 I had 2 Secret Service agents come to my house and ask general questions,,they brought the local deputy sheriff along with them...
    They were all very nice...
    This had to be the good law because the SS agents didn't even carry guns,,they brought deputy Dave and he carried a gun...
    Secret Service agent Katherine and Thomas...

    It is now October 2009 and I'm still under protective custody,,We won't go into how many times the CIA has attempted to take me out..Either physcially or causing a Britney,,A scrambling of there main disc of deeds...

    But I need to back track to April 2001 when the CIA announced they were here and using me like a telephone,,
    They were discussing many things including 9/11 months before 9/11 happened...Every detail about 9/11 was discussed by the Rothschild/CIA gang...
    They discussed how the NSA was involved and also the FBI...

    Many things they did had a two=three fold purpose,,,
    They used MK technology and had me do this...
    2 times in the right ankle area of my leg around June/July 2001 they had me carve with a box-cutter,"FBI VICTIM"
    They needed BOX-CUTTER scarred in my mind for the 9/11 fairytale they were going to present the American people..
    This was also a way to show the FBI was on board with assisting in 9/11...
    Bush brought Robert Mueller on board in July 2001,,,I can't say for sure,,but that may be the month they had me carve "FBI VICTIM"..

    I will say this,,years ago they found a cleaver way to scar my memory with "FBI background CHECK"...
    Apperently there are good people in the FBI,,because the CIA from April 2001 until 9/11 kept triggering my memory to FBI CHECK....

    Now I put the lll behind Robert Mueller for a purpose,,,Robert Mueller the ll must have been a corrupt schmuck also...
    This extreme corruption seems to be passed down to the next generation..
    My entire life,current neighborhood,,past neighborhood,friends,,etc..all match the key players in the current USA government...
    They saw Robert Mueller lll coming because of Robert Mueller ll and around year 1971 put a MUELLER in my life and scarred an event to this name...

    Because of events I can say not all the FBI is corrupt,,But because he is the Big Boss of the FBI and my situation was of GRAVE concern to ALL THE CORRUPT IN AND CONNECTED TO THE USA GOVERNMENT...AND ALSO FOREIGN CORRUPTION SUCH AS THE ROTHSCHILD FAMILY,,,He had the finally say on my situation..

    ROBERT MUELLER lll is very corrupt and is guilty of many crimes including TREASON...

    I've had the entire power of corruption in the United States Government along with foreign power working to take me down..That included the Pentagon who was sent by the CIA to tamper with the weather in my area...

    The corruption had used my family and husband family to store there deeds,,Many members of both families had a deed,,,
    All of these deeds were stored on my disc/brain..
    All there Satanical deeds,Oklahoma Bombing,Artifical Earthquake in California,9/11,Franklin Scandal,Boheman Grove,,ALL OF IT, AN THERE'S ALLOT MORE..
    Have you ever wondered about "Sudden Infant Crib Death?",,,Kathy knows..
    Have you ever wondered about,,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,,,K knows...

    This corruption is still working on taking me down..
    I've had two breakdwons,,my husband has had 2 breakdowns and is currently on #3..
    But they haven't been able to scramble our memories,,I REMEMBER EVERYTHING,,,,

    Let me state this is happening in the United States of America by the,CIA,Pentagon,NSA,FBI,,etc...
    Along with some private companies such as HUGHES Ind....
    I was a MAJOR concern,,but this is being done in part to many American Citizens and are Taxes are paying for this corruption and atrocities,,,

    Maybe WE THE PEOPLE need to shut down the entire Federal Government along with there side kicks such as AT&T,Hughes Ind,,etc,,Foreign partners in Crime...

    The CIA was discussing everything,,they were planning everything,,,
    I'm amazed how many details of torture they were discussing,,between everything was rape,rape,rape and more rape,,,
    They wanted me to feel raped threw all this,,but because the CIA's Modus Operendi is Rape when I would attempt to shake off the feeling of rape they had methods to make me feel raped again...
    My name is Kathy,,they used a Kay theme and there agenda was planned years ago,,
    They had K-Y jelly named and would use this along with many other things when needed to make me feel raped..
    Reviewing the commercials from April 2001=Nov 2004 will show the excessive K-Y commericials,,

    If your wondering how the CIA incorporated Anthrax in my thoughts for discussion,,there's a few old cowboy shows that have a Anthrax theme..
    I have neighbor name NORA they scarred to my memory,,NORAD,,
    The CIA kept saying,,"It has to be the NSA,,it has to be the NSA"..

    I've been wondering about this,,
    Bush was given the election in Jan.2001,,
    Why did the CIA wait until April to announce they were in my home...?
    The CIA had me involved in there prepping script on the Yahoo Stock Market message board starting in May 2000,,,
    There has to be a reason of why they waited unit April 2001...

    Yes they are messing with our water,,they stored that in my brain in the late 70's...
  • et_nc
    Craziest comment ever. I hope you don't mind that i'm copying it so I can put it on PrisonPlanet.com, those guys eat this kinda stuff up. Good lawd my jaw was dropped for a solid 30 seconds while reading this... I want to say "get some help" but you're probably not actually insane.
  • kayttt2000
    Just so you know,,
    When you go threw extreme trauma you remember every detail,,in fact you remember very specific details,,

    When I think,,but it's painful,,I can remember what foods I ate,,or the weather,or what happened on that day connected to a specific trauma,all the way back to April 2001...

    It was TORTURE not trauma,,,

    I was huddled in a ball in mental and or physical pain for years,,,
    Every square inch of my home, upstairs and downstairs...
    I can look at a spot on the floor and recall many things...

    I can listen to songs and pick out the words they zoned me into,words they needed for discussion,,
    I could review Fox News and pick out ALL the WORDS they zoned me to,,,

    This happened in the United States of America..

    For over 31/2 years with Mk Ultra the CIA hurt my legs,,
    I crawled,or clung to walls,,I didn't walk without pain,,
    I wanted to cut my legs off at the thighs everyday,they hurt that much.
    I didn't use my knees for over 31/2 years,,
    It took me all of 1 year to relearn to walk again...
    This was 24/7 mental and physical torture,,
    The war between the law and the CIA wasn't easy either...

    Find a farm and lay your head on there electric fence,,or maybe apply there stock prod to your head...

    All of this and much more being payed for by the citizens of the USA and operating out of agency's of the USA government and said industries...

    As my family and husbands were used starting with our Grandparents,,,
    I date this technology,,small scale, being used starting around 1928,,,in the USA..

    Then the Rothschild and Rockfeller family branched out in 1947 with creating the CIA..

    The CIA then worked on perfecting controlling the human mind,,many different types of experimenting,,I have relatives they experimented on...
    Along with putting up many Sattelite's...

    There are 13 Illuminati,,Rothschild,Rockefeller,etc..
    They are the boss of this technology with there helpers such as the CIA,Hughes Ind,etc...
    I know this technology is up and operating in England big and large,,they scarred it in my memory.

    My family was selected by the Satanical Kabbalah family,,the Rothschild's.
    As I was there storage disc,I can say they do some VERY Illegal horrific atrocities upon babies and children...

    The Rothschild/CIA marked the Rockefeller's in my life,,
    I think both of these names are in control of an MK Ultra operations...

    I think the Rockefeller MK operation came on board in April 2001 or shortly before,,,
    So that the TWO Trillion dollar Illuminati could open a 24/7 telephone conversation...

    The Rothschild's used Rocky for Rockefeller,,
    I have a relative with this name,,they used Rocky from the cartoon and they put a man in our life named Rocky,,also Rocky from Stalvester Salone...

    Both of these TRILLION DOLLAR families are involved in the mass murder of 3000 Americans...
    THEY PLANNED 9/11,,,

    If your wondering how powerful this technology is..
    In June/July 2001 when I carved "FBI VICTIM" with a Box cutter in the ankles of my right leg...
    At this time I was wanting to go to the FBI for help,,I thought they were good guys...

    Where was Robert Mueller lll in this matter,,
    Aiding and Protecting the criminals..

    Every State has an FBI Director,,let's hope some of them remove Robert Mueller lll!
  • Egypt Steve
    The ACLU should defy the order, and publish the name of their client and reveal everything they know about the NSL. Then they should fight their conviction all the way to the Supreme Court. I say: hurl the contempt citations and charges back in their teeth!
  • jimbo92107
    Publish it! Fuck the Stasi!
  • Satan
    What's up with comments?
  • I can assure you that I personally have met, been visited by USSS in Maple Grove, MN TWICE in full view of many witnesse. I worked for a company called Midas Resources in Burnsville, MN selling precious medals for around $255 an ounce in 1999.. They have a subsidiary company called GCN, which in turn airs Alex Jones' Infowars.com. Either Jones is in with the company as they say on TV / Movies, or he is close to 97% accuracy on his own. 9/11 was fully known to myself and countless others to be what it was - a totally fabricated operation designed and implemented by the U.S. corporate government, assisted by Norad and Canada. I need not glorify, embellish, or rant - but these people are desperate to hold on to their control over their fiefdom. Without an enemy there exists no need for them.

    I have been subjected to most of the trauma / torture that kayttt2000 below describes. In 1995 I was intervened with by my parents, whom did not like what I had to say at 21 years old. (i.e. IRS, WTC 1993 Bombing, Ruby Ridge, WACO...). I have argued the law with the IRS, Police, State Police and Revenue - which has no resemblance to any government organization nor does it comply with the law. The DOJ is complicit. This could go on and on. There are no Silver Bullets but there is something called brass balls if you have them.

    My car and goods are often searched, claiming I am a 'Dangerous Person'. I'm subjected to home invasion by my local Sheriff and MN Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. I was a little under 4.0 GPA at Morris-MN, a branch of the U of MN. Let me tell you - this absolutely tyranny must be stopped. Spying, lying, babies of Iraq dying, Obama falsifying testimony about sex, drugs, birth, etc. Anything you can imagine these deviants will try. They steal children, work with lawyers - even one's representing you.
    Imagine your phone, email, internet tapped. Your closest relationships paid visits by agencies wanting info and making general statements about yourself in a not so pleasant manner... Basic PSYOPS and harassment. No one will assist you in this time at all. Mind you, I have no criminal record.

    It's been a long battle for people like myself. I don't honor myself, but fight for those who have no idea what these manics will do to not only control, but enslave our citizenry. This will end and it cannot end good for those in power - present or past. Not a threat at all - just a general observation of history. Stop bickering about Dem and GOPers. These are nothing more than puppets anyway. Do you think those in charge would really allow some housemom/dad, working class schmuck to ruin their plans... forget about it. We need a peaceful citizen revolution with bankruptcies, skip work days, boycotts, etc to shame these
    war mongers back to hell. Find yourself approved for civil discourse. Thoroughly examine their laws, bills, and never assume anything about government. They count on you to do nothing, say nothing, and become nothing.

    The power is in you, not a group to stand and resist tyranny. They will infiltrate your group, dividing you and conquer you. Everything in conflict the last 20 years is completely fabricated. The Gulf war wasn't only a testing ground for experimentation on our soldiers, but the Saudi's were involved in lying to say "Saddam put babies in incubators on the floors to die." and Junior the cocaine, no-job, no skill, no intellectual capacity was allowed to bring this nation to ruins. I do not mean to skip William 'How Dare you" Cocaine-Clinton either with his witchy bitch wife Hilary whom ordered the attack on the Branch Davidians in Waco, TX. You can send your goons my way and I will show them the highway. I just prefer that you use a woe, I am not sure if this is a man, like Janette Reno to do the job. God shave the queen of the illuminated ones and save the good people of a nation called the United States of American.

    And Mr. Glen Beck is my puppet of choice, he at least performs worthy of praise. Clinton is a close 2nd.
    Find me on the CIA designed Facebook page - Eric Fannon. I am open to discussion and not afraid of imposters. Come as you are, not trying to set people up for contrived crimes that you make up to prove to my friends, family, and/or associates that I am a bad man.

    Friend Request with RAWSTORY to
    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/prof...
    if you're a agent say so. If your a victim say so. If you're an asshole - say so. I would hate to uncover your hypocrisy.

    Tell the FB-LIE to shove it with their unconstitutional GAG orders. I would post what they did instantly to a network and happily face arrest and/or charges than bare false witness against any living American. Good day. Obedience to God (Morality) is resistance to tyranny.

    Always carry a camera and tape recorder.
  • overdoneputaforkinit
    The correct URL for the ruling is,

    http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nationalsecurityle...
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