George Will: US ‘probably in the process’ of legalizing marijuana

By Stephen C. Webster
Sunday, October 25th, 2009 -- 6:34 pm
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georgewill20090831 George Will: US probably in the process of legalizing marijuanaIn the chronicle of America's war against its marijuana users, conservative columnist George Will may have just earned credit for his own Walter Cronkite moment.

Appearing on ABC's This Week With George Stephanopoulos on Sunday, the Pulitzer-winning journalist and longtime icon of America's political right declared that with President Barack Obama's new policy which respects the states right to allow medical marijuana, the United States is "probably in the process now of legalizing marijuana."

He added that if there were to be a serious effort to fight the increasingly violent, powerful Mexican drug cartels, "you'd legalize marijuana," the sale of which provides the gangs the vast majority of their funding.

Will's comments come not even a week after a Gallup poll found record-breaking support across the United States for the legalization of marijuana, with nearly half of U.S. citizens in favor and a clear majority of support emerging among liberals, Democrats and moderates.

Will's proclamation, as a well-respected conservative thinker, is especially significant given that Gallup found the only two political groups in the U.S. that are still very strongly opposed to legalization are conservatives and Republicans.

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Gallup tracking data also showed that from 2006-2009, support for legalization grew more than at almost any time since the drug was banned, trending upward from 36 percent to 44 percent in just three years.

However, Will's estimation of America's shifting marijuana policies still posed a scenario that many conservatives would likely look upon with uneasiness.

"Medical use can be marijuana to cure anxiety, to cure insomnia, all the rest," he said. "And you will have what you now have in California, where marijuana is essentially legalized. We have legalized gambling in this country over two generations; it used to be considered a sin and a crime. We, with no national debate and no decision moment -- we just did it -- we legalized prostitution, as anyone who opens a telephone book and looks under 'escort' can tell you. And we may be doing ... We're probably in the process now of legalizing marijuana."

John Podesta, who joined Will along with Laura Ingraham, Al Hunt and Cynthia Tucker on the program, suggested that the United States will not see a full legalization of marijuana until someone figures out that taxing the nation's top cash crop could pay for public health care.

"That may be what drives it!" said host George Stephanopoulos.

Will retorted: "80 percent of the Mexican cartels' revenue is from marijuana. If you really want to go after the Mexican cartels -- and I'm not saying that's the only criteria for public policy -- you'd legalize marijuana."

Were that to happen, California would likely be the first state to do so. Right now, several ballot initiatives to legalize marijuana for recreational use by adults appear likely to clear the hurdles required to be put up for state-wide vote. Furthermore, a Field Research Corporation poll of Californians, taken in May, found 56 percent support legalizing the drug and levying a "sin tax" on purchases.

California State Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, of San Francisco, has repeatedly said that under legalization the state would quickly draw over $1.5 billion in marijuana taxes alone. He added that advocacy agencies have credibly placed the annual value of marijuana sales in California at or above $14 billion.

One airport within Ammiano's assembly district -- San Francisco International -- even has a little-spoken policy of allowing properly-licensed passengers to travel with up to a half-pound of medical marijuana. Oakland International airport shares a similar policy.

Last week over 3,000 federal, state and local law enforcement agents participated in a major operation against the La Familia cartel, which dominates the trade of methamphetamine in the United States. Agents arrested 303 individuals allegedly linked to the cartel, with raids taking place in 38 U.S. cities. Seventy-seven of the arrests took place in the Dallas-Fort Worth area of North Texas.

Drug war violence has claimed the lives of over 15,000 Mexicans in the last three years, The Washington Post reported on Friday. Those killed include women, children, police, soldiers, politicians and cartel members, among many others. One Mexican city, Ciudad Juarez, has seen over 2,000 drug war-related killings in 2009 alone, making it "the murder capital of the world."

By comparison, some 2,691 civilian and Iraqi security force members have suffered violent deaths so far in 2009, according to the Iraq Coalition Casualty Count. Another 131 coalition troops have been killed so far this year. Furthermore, the Human Rights Unit of the United Nations Assistance Mission to Afghanistan noted in August that the first six months of 2009 have seen 1,013 civilian deaths, whereas the figure was lower during that same period of time during the last two years of the Bush administration.

The comments by George Will noted above may be heard in the final four minutes of this video, broadcast Sunday, Oct. 25, 2009.

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  • progchris
    So, the drug cartels must be dissolved, then pot can be legalized to get 1.5 billions in taxes the government wants.

    Can you be arrested for driving under the influence like alcohol??? Evan more money to be made!!!!

    There will also be a way to make sure it wasn't home grown also. GM pot I guess.
  • philedrifter
    You're putting the cart before the horse. Drug cartels will NEVER be dissolved until each and every illegal substance is made legal.
  • philedrifter
    And even if that *were* to happen, yes they'd still exist, although they'd be on a greatly diminished scale. But there would still be people who found money to be made by delivering drugs inside prisons or selling it to minors because obviously if it's going to be legalized there's going to be age limits.
  • grindermonkey
    You are right drifter, just look at the terrorism example it persists as the Republican party despite the extensive campaign to eliminate it.
  • philedrifter
    They don't want to eliminate it, they're using it to strip away the public's rights. I stumbled across a political cartoon a few years ago, 2 panels:

    on the left was marked 1776 and had a colonial shouting 'give me liberty or give me death!'

    On the right was marked 2001 with an obese person shouting 'give up your rights or we're all gonna die!'
  • philedrifter
    They allowed 9/11 to happen because they needed an excuse to invade iraq to take it's oil, Saddam was the unpopular kid in the middle east that's why no one else supported him. Shit, REAGAN SOLD HIM WMDS in the 80s...

    Anyway check out suburra.com

    I ordered their 500+ page book but I have yet to start reading it, one of the topics though is how 9/11 was caused by the 'war on (some) drugs.'

    If they wanted to cut the terrorists of at the knees they'd legalize and regulat all drugs, but that won't happen because the Federal Reserve is making money by making money. Srsly.

    I never thought i'd see the day when the government would just order the Fed Res to print up another 800 BILLION dollars, it just boggles the mind. They're the real criminals, the bankers.

    Also check out http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/cia/ it's a short explanation of how and why the CIA operates. The CIA makes money off drugs and then distributes them on the streets just to keep the cops busy targeting minorities because Uncle Sam is one racist bitch: strip their right to vote and throw them in prison to replace outlawed slave labor with prison labor.
  • philedrifter
    The shit grows right out of the fucking ground, so it's NEVER going away...
  • philedrifter
    From that rotten CIA page:

    there's a whole slew of suspected disasters which the Agency has not (yet) admitted to. These include:

    • Running drugs for profit into U.S. inner cities in order to fund covert operations abroad.


    i.e.: illegal drugs fund covert CIA ops. Which is why they will NEVER legalize pot.
  • philedrifter
    'terrorist' is a government password.

    I studied terrorists in grade school. Some of their names were Washington, Jefferson, Adams...
  • allenallen
    Huh? Didn't you read the article? You'd cut 80% of their revenue. That isn't valuable? What is your goal? Perfection? :-( You and God go have a nice time talking about that, fog hat. The rest of us have matters to take care of here on Earth, where we live.
  • philedrifter
    And the monkey flings the poo.

    Look... uncle sam doesn't want people happy. The GOP contorts information to fit their goals. They put McCain up for election KNOWING he didn't have a snowball's chance in hell. They paired him with Palin to find out exactly how many right-wing extremists they had (who would vote for satan himself if he was on the GOP ticket) It's ok that they lost the WH, they got away with murder when Bush2 was in there.

    The GOP goes out of it's way to create markets which they can then control. They made a racket out of 'the war on (some) drugs' so they could replace outlawed slave labor with prison labor. ( tinyurl.com/1mn ) They knew about 9/11 beforehand and they let it happen, produced fraudulent documents even, so they could invade Iraq for it's oil (see peak oil), let extremists into the country, let them take flying lessons, and ignored all warnings from foreign governments about radicals wanting to hijack planes and crash them into prominent landmarks.

    There is no god. Get over it.

    Now, if you could get over your opinion that you have all the answers and everyone else is wrong, you could take a look at the facts:

    Bush Family's Partnership with Killers of Americans: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09...

    250+ 9/11 Smoking Guns: http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smokingguns....
  • allenallen
    Read that again once you get back on your medication for a few days... you'll laugh!
  • philedrifter
    You're a moron. Yeah, sure fire a quick reply with absolutely no substance so you can out yourself as the moron you are.
  • philedrifter
    ABSOLUTELY NOT. You are dead wrong, George.

    This is the lynch pin in Uncle Sam's 'war on (some) drugs' because 99.9% of the DEA's job is busting cannabis users. If they legalized cannabis they'd never be able to stuff their prisons with minorities, thus replacing outlawed slave labor with prison labor. (Read tinyurl.com/1mn )

    I'm betting he's making this announcement so that the public will think 'oh they're on their way to legalizing it, I can rest on my laurels' meaning it would impede the process.

    This is just like Palin 'backing 3rd party candidate,' because we all know she's stupid, which means people will do the opposite and continue to support the 2-party system.

    This is reverse psychology.

    From his wiki: In a Washington Post column which doubted the effects of global warming, Will stated that: "According to the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center, global sea ice levels now equal those of 1979." [12] This and several other claims attracted the attention of environmentalists, such as British author and activist George Monbiot.[13] Asked to respond, the website of Arctic Climate Research at the University of Illinois states that: "We do not know where George Will is getting his information, but our data shows that on February 15, 1979, global sea ice area was 16.79 million sq. km and on February 15, 2009, global sea ice area was 15.45 million sq. km. Therefore, global sea ice levels are 1.34 million sq. km less in February 2009 than in February 1979." [14] Will responded in a column that he accurately reported the Center's information and the challenge was mistaken.
  • philedrifter
    See tinyurl.com/waronminorities or I'll repeat it here verbatim, but that's a clipping *I* wrote to the Philly Metro (on a Saturday) and they printed it the following Monday, without even waiting for my reply to their question if they could print it or not.

    Our drug laws are unconstitutional
    PHILADELPHIA: Want to drastically decrease murders in Philly? Stop arresting nonviolent people simply for possession of "controlled" substances. These laws are unconstitutional, outlawing plants is the most asinine idea ever conceived, and the truth is plants can't be patented, which is onen reason they were outlawed. Another reason is because their use (opium, cannabis a.k.a. "marijuana," cocaine, 'shrooms) were minoritiy habits, NOT because they were more dangerous than alcohol; in fact, none of them are nearly as dangerous. Outlawing them gave Uncle Sam an excuse to stuff his prisons with minorities. To quote Marc Mauer from"Race to Incarcerate," "In 1995, African-Americans made up 13% of the [US] population and 15% of all drug users, yet they comprised of 33% of people arrested, 53% of those convicted, and 74% of those sentenced to prison for drug possession."
  • joker0009
    Can't patent a plant? Check this patent, held by your federal Dept. of health and human services.

    US Patent 6630507 - Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

    US Patent Issued on October 7, 2003 </patents-by-date/2003/1007/1.html>
    Abstract </patents/6630507.html> Claims
    </patents/6630507/claims.html> Description
    </patents/6630507/description.html> Full Text
    6630507


    Abstract

    Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated
    to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids
    useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation
    associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and
    autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular
    application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological
    damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the
    treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease,
    Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia.

    P S Cannabis has been proven to kill at least 270 forms of cancer

    Good thing its illegal, right?
  • philedrifter
    Indeed. Patents can be issued for substances that are created artificially for some purpose (which attempt to mimic naturally growing ones), but no one can patent a plant because they did not design it.

    Which is why cannabis is schedule I with 'no known benefits,' but Savitex (synthetic THC) is schedule II.

    I'm tellin' you, cannabis is the lynch pin in Uncle Sam's 'war on <strike>drugs</strike> <strike>some drugs</strike> minorities.'
  • philedrifter
    He can't even admit he made a mistake. What's so hard about saying, "I apologize, I made a mistake, thank you for bringing it to my attention."?
  • nader paul kucinich gravel
    Will and his silver spoon
  • DownriverDem
    Will would never admit it, but when he taught at Michigan State University in the 1970s he was a user too! My ex was in one of his classes.
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