Georgia Republican hints Democrats could declare martial law
Published: August 13, 2009
Updated 7 months ago
Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) has said a few outrageous things in his political career, but this one may take the cake.
Speaking to constituents at North Georgia Technical College, he lambasted proposed health care reforms as “a stinking, rotten fish” and claimed that the elderly would no longer receive medical care were it to pass.
Then he went for the kill.
“He [...] spoke of a ’socialistic elite’ - Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid - who might use a pandemic disease or natural disaster as an excuse to declare martial law,” reports The Athens Banner-Herald.
He added, “They’re trying to develop an environment where they can take over. We’ve seen that historically.”
For his part, Rep. Broun has not shied away from using fear tactics in support of the Republican party line.
In November, the Georgia lawmaker told a Rotary Club that President Obama was a “Marxist” and said his suggestion of a “civilian security force” made him eerily like Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.
He later seemed to apologize for the remarks.
“It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he’s the one who proposed this national security force,” Broun told an Associated Press reporter. “I’m just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may—may not, I hope not—but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism.”
The AP noted at the time, “The Obama transition team declined to comment on Broun’s remarks. But spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring [...] to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure—an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.” Obama’s logic being, building cities and neighborhoods generates more security than dropping bombs.
At the college yesterday, Broun played off fears of an alleged government-run “death panel” that would determine who is worthy of medical care, saying, “Eventually, mama will be lying in bed until she gets pneumonia and dies.”
President Obama has repeatedly dismissed similar assertions as patently false.
Broun neglected to add that private insurers already have panels that “ration” policies and decide which of their paying customers will be denied medical care.
The Republican lawmaker went on to cite claims made by the Lewin Group—which is owned by UnitedHealth Group, one of America’s largest insurers—alleging that over 115 million Americans would be forced into health care exchanges because small businesses would not be able to afford their policies any longer.
However, most small businesses have moved away from providing health insurance to their employees for years, as the cost of such insurance has skyrocketed.
In 2008 alone, employer premiums increased by five percent—twice the rate of inflation, according to the National Coalition on Health Care. At current rates of inflation, health care spending is expected to absorb at least 20 percent of America’s annual gross domestic product by 2017.
“Where do people get these ideas? Even more importantly, why do they use them?” asked blogger Glenn Church at Foolocracy. “Are Broun and his allies’ ideology so barren and weak that they can only harbor support by suggesting that the President wants to overthrow the American political system?”
The United States has roughly 46 million uninsured citizens whose only access to health care is an emergency room.
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It is to laugh when you consider which smirking chimp made declaring martial law so easy with his executive orders, his abrogation of the Posse Comitatus law, his putting North America under a military command. It is also to laugh when you think that this honey bucket had to do some serious twisting of reality in order to make it sound like Pres. Obama was setting up a force. There are some pretzel factories looking for people as adept at twisting things as this jerk.
Martial law in the future isn’t exactly unexpected for the well informed.
“They’re trying to develop an environment where they can take over. We’ve seen that historically.”
Comments like this are enough to make the Lock N Load crowd head on out to the nearest Town hall meeting for some target practice.
My idea on heaven would be to just once be able to question these idiots who throw terms like Marxism around, and ask them, “Just what is Marxism.” I’d bet the collective farm that once they stammered, “Well, you know, it’s Communism, everybody knows that, heh, heh,” they wouldn’t know what the hell to say. Ignorance is epidemic among these Republican morons, but nobody calls them on the moronic, empty things they say.
Conservatives have nother but FEAR, DISPARE & BANKRUPTCY TO OFFER.
I wouldn’t exactly call these wing nuts ‘conservatives’. As a sick and twisted side hobby, I’ve been conversing with the ‘martial law coming next week’ types for 15 years. They’re really just idiots who need to be violently shaken and slapped. You can bet that 90% of these same people also believe that mandatory vaccinations for the swine flu are coming in October and half those people think that the CDC working in conjuction with FEMA is going to put ebola in the vaccinations to kill everyone, for whatever reason. They all love Alex Jones or some dick of that ilk.
“The United States has roughly 46 million uninsured citizens whose only access to health care is an emergency room.” - I’ve only possessed health insurace for about 2 of my 40 years and I’ve never used it. When I didn’t have it, I was able to see a doctor no problem, several times, no emergency room required. I know it sounds far fetched, but I just called up a doctor and made an appointment, got what I needed, paid the guy, and I was on my way. If you don’t believe me, call up a doctor and make an appointment. That statement is as far out there as the martial law comment.
Wrong. In EVERY case I’ve witnessed or heard of, when you make the appointment you will be asked what insurance you have. If you have none, the assistant will say that the doctor is not taking uninsured patients at this time. There may be a few doctors out there who don’t require it but I haven’t met them. I suppose they require it as an insurance to them that you won’t skip out on the bill.
If you don’t have insurance, you have to pay for the visit at the time of the visit.
you pay after.. and if you have already been “verified” via insurance, they get paid… if not, you can run out the door and they get nothing. duh?
There’s a _reason_ they pre-charge $50 on your credit card when you pay at the pump. Once you’re done, they reduce the final transaction to what you took from the pump, but you pay first.. Do you pay for your meal before you eat? Do you pay for your groceries before you shop? Do you pay the kid cutting your lawn before he starts? Do you pay the oil/lube place before your car goes in? Do you pay the plumber before he fixes the sink?
and if it’s the doctor, we’re potentially talking thousands of dollars, not $25.97 for an oil change.
Yes, you needed that drip looked at after you got back from Tijuana and the $250 wasn’t a big deal.
Now cut off your finger while working on your house and see if they will attach it without insurance. Or, since we need to avoid the emergency room, go have the doctor notice that lump in your colon and see if they schedule the MRI or colonoscopy without insurance (a few grand each).. then see if they will start cancer treatment without insurance.. And let us know how paying _that_ bill goes.
Insurance isn’t for the “little things”, that’s born out with yearly deductibles crawling up to the thousands of dollars.. Insurance is for the “bad things” that can, and do, creep up on people. If you’re suggesting all the sick people out there should fuck off because YOU have been lucky so far, I’d suggest you keep your mouth shut because you’re just insulting injured people.
That’s nothing
Martial Law was preplanned for longer than a Decade. I learned about it in the 90’s along with the “Prisons” or currently called “Detention Camps” from the family I was in for more than 26 years.
Meet the family:
Mexico drug plane used for US ‘rendition’ flights: report — Sep 4, 2008
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j6QonBKKMo2gw1e3ql-xUcQEZbVg
Please note the CIA Connection as the family often bragged about being CIA Assest. Also don’t miss the 4 tons of Cocaine as the family has been laundering for drug money since the later 70’s for CIA Operations.
Besides learning about Martial Law and Detention Camps, there is a lot more that everyone needs to understand with what plans have been made and WHO are involved. This is a copy of what happened in 1933 called the “Business Plot” Read about it on the net.
HOWEVER, please realise that from it appears something is being done about this. Personally I feel the planned this new White House Coup will be stopped. Already from news reports, here and there their advancements have been stopped and the whole movement even though it is huge it’s shrinking in size.
There is so much to talk about regarding this that I’ll leave it for another time.
Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL
So your family are coke dealers? Wow, I’d love to see them dead. As for your mythical detention camps, lol, why would your coke dealing family have information about detention camps. Fucking coke dealers, fucking slime of the planet.
“There is so much to talk about regarding this that I’ll leave it for another time.” - Yeah, I’ll bet there is and I’ll bet it rambles on and on and on and on and on. No time like the present secret weirdo, spill your beans and spare us the links.
“They’re trying to develop an environment where they can take over.”
Earth to dumb republican…….they have already taken over. The american people voted for them to take over. It’s what we wanted. Fool!
Wasn’t the reason for the $700 Billion Dollar Bailout because Congress was Threatened with Martial Law. I not to long ago remember Brad Sherman out of California on The House Floor making that statement.
The Executive Orders have already been written by the previous Administration. NorthCom. is set as well as DHS and their NLE 09 exercises. Same Agenda, on a grander scale of schemes. Nothing has changed. The Red and Blue colors are one in the same.
It all boils down to which pill you’re willing to swallow.
Walk In Peace.
I was going to post something similar but you beat me too it.
Why do you folks not realize that both parties are controlled by the same bankers, corporations, and so called ‘elite’?
We are all slaves in this country, and the person who occupies the White House is irrelevant other than to stir up the masses to do the bidding of the Bankers.
Remember Goldstien from 1984? The opposition to the totalitarian government in 1984 was also a government operation.
They play both sides against each other to keep the people from uniting and realizing who the true enemy is.
Don’t believe everything you read, and don’t trust the government regardless of who is the current puppet.
eb
Oh, boy. Another bohunk repug spouting nonsense, nonsense some gun-toting, bible-thumping bohunk will take seriously.
I truly believe the repuglicunts will not be happy until someone gets killed, namely, their president.
Barking Mad!
Seems to me these gross misstatements by elected and formerly elected politicians, as well as media hosts, has to stop somewhere. I don’t think Bill of Rights covers gross lying under free speech; the FCC should take on the radio liars under the provisions of the communications act; let them yank a few major market station licenses and that’ll stop. Maybe the secret service could look into the pols under “incitement to riot” statutes. In either case, we have much bigger problems in our country which must be solved; we’re skating on thin ice and this sh*t has to stop!
Hail satan, Hey I, like you, did without healthcare. But what do you do when you get cancer, or need a bowel resection? I recently priced a gall bladder removal and it was over $20,000 for someone without insurance if you didn’t stay overnight in the hospital. I had insurance for 5+ years and was dropped when I got seriously ill. Just as bad, my doctors started charging double and more as soon as the insurance co. wasn’t negotiating for me. The health care industry is exactly like protection from Guido the loan shark, You pay ’till your bankrupt or they’ll kill you.
which was my point to his previous post of “meh, who needs it?! I only went to the doctor once in 40 years! .. why mess with it..”. The system is horribly broke, even if the occasional person doesn’t understand that. Trying to project what would amount to a charmed life (medically) into what should be done as generic policy.. that’s just.. wow.
Real people are out there being really screwed by companies, and one of the biggest and most wide spread offenders is insurance companies. It makes sense, then, to change it so it works better for “the masses”, even if it means telling a few abusive pricks they have to change their ways.
What’s worse is, people who’ve not paid into insurance for 30 or 40 years, get on insurance for a few, then have something “bad happen” to them. Never paying in, but putting a drain on the resources. Doesn’t really work all that well for the masses.. which is why single payer is a better route. Everyone pays in, and does it their entire lives. Everyone is covered if they get sick, no one has their life destroyed because of something tragic. Isn’t getting cancer bad enough? To have to worry if it will leave you in the street, too, isn’t very “civilized” of us.
It’s time to recognize insanity when it’s obvious. Palin is utilizing terror tactics suggesting Obama is planning to euthanize the elderly, and this Georgia NUT suggests his fellow-American Democrats are Communists.
I doubt 9 of 10 protesting the healthcare bill could even explain what it says. This country is living delusions, driven by hype and propaganda and reacting to fear of the unknown.
The WORST part of it is Americans are too lazy to find out the TRUTH regarding the UNKNOWN. They’d rather get it from FOX news or MSNBC or spew abrasive, alarming untruths to attract attention.
There is no safety net. Not even if your bankrupt unless you have children that they will have to support. Don’t think the corporate run government cares if you die. They want you dead!
They don’t want you dead, they want you enslaved. The people running the big corps these days used to run big plantations in yesteryear.
Every time I see something like this, I am reminded of the old guy who would stand on the street corner with his “The world will end” sign. I don’t know how it happened, but the old buggers got off of the street corners and got elected to office. People have elected end of the world sign carrying nuts for congress! That is the only thing I can think of to describe this type of thing.
Yeah, right, “sir”, and Obama wants to kill off all the old white people to start making reparations, too. And Goldfish can fly, and if you put your ear up to a seashell, you can really hear what fish are plotting against us.
Back to the street corner, and if it ever happens, you can stand there and say “I told you so”.
Goddamn, 40 years old and still that fucking stupid. Your generation is about where public education started really failing.
If you truly believe that the government is not setting us up for martial law, then you need to just go down and get your vaccination. Then report back to us.
Looks to me as if you are of the sheep crowd, cowards that are terminally afraid of the truth. That’s fine dufus… just keep your quivering, quaking drivel to yourself. Patriots here do not want to listen to defeatist, cowardly bullshit from an illiterate jelleyfish that is experiencing a “misery loves company” moment. Just go and hide while brave men and women give their lives once more to assure your pathetic ass a safe place in society which you and your ilk do not deserve. Personally, I have never given a shit about cowards, as long as they shut the fuck up and stay out of the way. The least you could do is cower in a foxhole and load magazines for the true heroes who will emerge in the coming revolution, or dig and burn shitters, something in your bandwidth. It doesn’t matter. Just shut the fuck up and stay out of the way. You have given up your right to speak as a man or citizen of this Republic. Also be aware: in the aftermath of this bloodbath individuals such as yourself will be the first to be hauled out from under your rocks, - along with the collaborators - and served up to the surviving public for summary justice.. It will not be pretty.
http://dprogram.net/2009/04/26/h5n1-originates-from-alaska-in-1997/
Robert S. Finnegan
Southeastasia Independent Media
http://www.southeastasiaindependentmedia.com/
Jakarta Indonesia
62-21-892-5656
Let me get this straight Mr. Finnegan, the Democrats are going to declare martial law, then “in the aftermath of this bloodbath” we’re going to drag ourselves out from under our own rocks and be served up to “the surviving public” (in other words us again) for justice?
It isn’t that this isn’t pretty, it’s that this is unintelligible. Except for that part where you decided on your own that “we” have given up the right to speak. That’s laughable.
Obviously unintelligible to an illiterate. Don’t let it get you down, most Americans cannot read above the 8th grade level anyways. It does not matter who is in power, be it Democrats or Republicans. These people intend to enact martial law at the earliest possible moment. It is obvious I struck a nerve, asswipe, if the shoe fits, wear it. You are most likely one of the toothless, inbred redneck cowards I was referring to. And who gives a shit about Georgia? Or your drivel? HA HA! Laugh away, shithead. Embrace your murderers.
Robert S. Finnegan
Southeast Asia Independent Media
seanews1@yahoo.com
Jakarta, Indonesia
I believe he was speaking directly to “satan” since he’s the one that said he didn’t have insurance for most of his 40 years.. and in the same post, said you have to be crazy to think Martial Law “could happen”. It seems to me that Robert was saying “those that willfully ignore the approaching storm”, or chose to let others fight for them, will be called to task.
It’s an “us versus them” argument, not generically applied to all people where we drag ourselves out from under rocks. That’s just silly. There are those in this country (and world) that seek to rule the roost, and there are those of us that feel everyone should be allowed to live their lives. The story becomes quite polluted because most of those looking to be masters _say_ they believe in personal liberty, but they _mean_ it only applies to them; they do everything in their power to keep control and power.
In the highest offices of our country, party means nothing. Yet, most people in this country still think that D or R is all you need to see to make sound electoral decisions. The ruling elite know that, and have bought off just about all the Rs, but many Ds as well, and probably a lot of Is and Greens and everyone between. Party means shit, you have to look at the person, and in America, we don’t have time for that.. nor do we have concern for it.. and it will be our undoing.
I don’t know if we’ll have a real civil war.. I’ve been waiting for it for a long time now.. I never knew how we could have so many people being shit on by the few for so long and the masses not seemingly care. It looks like that pot is about to boil, though. The power is being pulled from the ruling elite, and the internet breaks through their grip. We still have a lot of morons that sit in front of Fox News and pollute their brains with the lies and general fucktardery that is Fox.. but many are also waking up and seeing that near 25% of our society is kind of insane. Near 1/4 of the people in America have gone nuts, and many more are kind of wandering around (in their lives) lost.. confused.. being abused and not really knowing it.
Maybe it.s in the water.. maybe it.s in the air.. maybe it’s being broadcast into our heads through the TV or wi-fi or something.. but we sure are seeing a lot of people not very interested in thinking.. seriously thinking.. it’s like it’s painful for most people, and that seems strange. It also doesn’t seem to be happening in all countries around the world, Americans seem almost uniquely ignorant and impulsive and generally mean natured. Not everyone, just 30% or 40%.
And when that incendiary 25% starts throwing bottles into the crowd (metaphorically), there will be a sever reaction. And it won’t stop with just a few outbreaks here and there.. if things go, it’s gonna go in a big way.
That’s what Robert is talking about.
Thanks Savanster. I get so fucking pissed ……Please consider getting out. This will have to be a united effort by the world. Not to say I wouldn’t do it, but it would be foolish to throw ourselves at the machine immediately to be ground up and spit out with no tangible return. It needs to be analyzed and fought by the numbers We cannot afford to loose free thinkers. we are in the minority. Wish I had some numbers.
I am a free man, and I will not allow my freedom to usurped by these evil-assed criminals.
Robert
http://www.southeastasiaindependentmedia.org/
** New website. Hope to be taking contributors by 09/01/2009.
Just another narrow, dishonest, meanspirited RePUKElicunt shithead…who can carry his brains in a thimble. I think he’s an embarrassment to the citizens of Georgia, and I doubt any responsible persons anywhere pay much attention to this bastard’s diatribes.
They really need to put him before the ethics panel and censure his ass! Did I see/read about the same type of things from “the Left” when Bush was in the WH? Yes…but, never EVER from elected officials or their staffs!!! This has gone too far and something needs to be done about.
Thanks for the fan mail, sonny. I am neither republican, democrat or independent. Never have been, never will be. I think for myself, something you obviously see as an alien concept.
Ethics panel? HAHAHAHAHA! Where in the fuck did you come up with that you fucking moron? Where is this “ethics panel” except in your illiterate, shrunken mind? Censorship? Left? Talk about unintelligible, although I appreciate it as it assuages my negative feelings regarding the coming demise of my birth country. It is comforting indeed knowing that babbling shitheads such as yourself and the other illiterate, uninformed posters above will soon be fertilizer, perhaps in your favorite peach orchard in GA. You can finally feel good about doing some sort of service to mankind, wastrel.
Republican? I have been called everything in the book, not that I give a shit. Do your homework you snivelling, bedwetting pedantic shit. Google me: Robert S. Finnegan Bali Bombing or Robert S. Finnegan Marines. Republican. That is rich.
Then pull the corncob pipe out of your ass and smoke it, anal84u, even if you have to remove nobrainnemesis’ crank to do it.
Robert S. Finnegan
Southeastasia Independent Media
seanews1@yahoo.com
Jakarta, Indonesia
Great !!! This puke can be the FIRST to be locked away in one of the FEMA internment camps…
Get this moron a sign as well…Rep. Paul Broun-Chief Idiot. Do not feed..
Do people really think this is that far fetched?
http://www.reboottherepublic.com
Gee, I hope these GOP big mouths really blast into overdrive and and make the Republican party look so nutty even to their own members they drive more to leave.
destroyObama.com
You are all drunken coward sheep who are shitting ya pants because you know what is, but are afraid to admit it.
All the deniers of the truth are either rich or totally fucked in the head.
And all the truthers are poor that’s why they can see soooh much.
The more you have the less you see.
I’m allright Jack” What I don’t know can’t hurt me”.
What other people know, “hurts me more”.
If ya can’t see whats going on then it will all be the easier to kill ya kids or prostitute them out to the highest bidder, meanwhile you’ll be in ya little cage with the loud music playin and the constant running water.
You are all fucked, you are going to let it happen and with your last breath you are going to blame everyone else but yourselves.
Wake up you dumb fucks they have trained you to decieve yourself.
The end is comming and you are a part of it, whether you like it or not.
Dont come crying to me, I will just tell you to piss off, but I won’t tell you the obvious.
I see day after day that the deniers are “hoping” that the truthers are wrong because “that war” is easier to fight.
How about going to your health centre and get ya pla*stations or ya black*erries amputated from your arms.
Try donating ya TV/TDT to ya local Oxfam shop.
Martial law is just around the corner and you are waiting with open arms.
The shills are all of us, truthers, deniers trying to sell each other our opinions, trying to manipulate one to believe in the other.
Its a lost cause.
Meanwhile we are debating who is right and who is wrong the elite are stealthely closing the net.
Divide and conquer.
You can’t keep lying to yourselves.
You certainly can’t fight a war with white sticks and sun-glasses.
CO.ward North came up with the plans under Ronnies tenure.
Guess he shouldn’t have signed all those bills making it legal.
He’s right. We might.
If and only if massive heavily-armed crowds of Birthers, Birchers, Deathers, Beck-watchers, Limbaugh-listeners, White Supremacists, Secessionists and the like, whipped into a frenzy by right-wing lies, take to the streets and start killing politicians, progressives, and minorities.