Accused of lying about health care, Fox host … lies about health care
Published: August 10, 2009
Updated 6 months ago
Fox News host Brian Kilmeade bolstered on Monday Sarah Palin’s claim that health care reform would establish “death panels” to determine who deserves care and who deserves euthanasia.
Kilmeade’s assertion came during a discussion about an op-ed article written for USA Today by House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi and House Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD).
In that piece, Pelosi and Hoyer wrote:
It is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue.
These tactics have included hanging in effigy one Democratic member of Congress in Maryland and protesters holding a sign displaying a tombstone with the name of another congressman in Texas, where protesters also shouted “Just say no!” drowning out those who wanted to hold a substantive discussion.
These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American.
In the Fox discussion, Kilmeade skirted around Pelosi and Hoyer’s allegations — plainly aimed at Republicans and other opponents of public health care — and then quickly moved on to enforcing the false claims that the senior House Democrats had just decried.
“Are seniors going to be in front of a death panel?” Kilmeade asked, referring to specious claims made last Friday by ex-Alaska governor Sarah Palin. “And just as you think, ‘Okay, that’s ridiculous,’ then you realize that there’s provisions in there that seniors in the last lap of their life will be sitting there going to a panel possibly discussing what the best thing for them is.”
Kilmeade was evidently referencing a clause in the health reform bill that would provide funding for “end-of-life counseling” that would allow individuals to form “living wills,” documents that caregivers and family members would have to abide by in case the person in question were to become incapacitated.
At a town hall meeting two weeks ago, President Barack Obama explained that end-of-life counseling would be funded under Medicare, would be strictly voluntary, and would not create any “death panels” or other bodies that would weigh euthanasia for the elderly or the very sick, as Palin claimed.
GLENN BECK: ‘I BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE’
On his radio show Monday, host Glenn Beck said he believes that Palin’s assertion is true.
“Why is there no more discussion than there is on Sarah Palin, and what she said over the weekend that there would be a … death panel for her son, Trig?” Beck asked. “That’s quite a statement. I believe it to be true, but that’s quite a statement.”
(Audio follows below.)
Beck then plugged his TV show on Fox, and said his show would “ask some of those same questions; we’ll show you some of the reasons why you could read it this way.”
This video is from Fox News’ Fox & Friends, broadcast Aug. 10, 2009.
Download video via RawReplay.com
This audio clip, courtesy of MediaMatters.org, was broadcast on the Glenn Beck Radio Program, Monday Aug. 10, 2009:
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Kilmeade is the only person on God’s green earth so stupid that he makes Steve Doocy look like a fucking genius. Imagine that.
“why you could read it that way”??
wow…
these morons really ARE that stupid, I guess.
What is even more funny is that the claim that this would create a death panel if this went though is the same thing that Insurance Administrators do now - deny claims even if they are life threatening - just turning the story around to make their own claim sound good.
Just think of a world WITHOUT insurance companies…. that’s what this reform plan can work towards, and the reason the insurance companies are scared - and they should be.
If this was happening back in the 1800s, there would have been a revolt and someone hanged when something like this happened with the carnage of monies and lives being lost - people back then didn’t tolerate things like we do today. Interesting to see how this unfolds….
it’s ok to kill people by panel, or machine generated signature denying benefits.. so long as it’s making someone cash.. Private interests can kill you for profit all day long.
But if the government ever dare to try and do something good for people! like stopping private companies killing you for profit! watchout.
It appears Kilmeade hasn’t read it either. I don’t think any of those three have.
I read it.
No one goes before a panel for end of life issues.
The only end of life provision is a part where living will consultation is covered and encouraged.
Right now, in the absence of a living will, the government and insurance companies decide how you die. The hospitals have policies that recognize state and federal laws and cover what your insurance will pay for. For example, if you are close to dying with no hope of recovery, say, two days left to go, the hospital will ship you away into hospice because that’s what the insurance company wants. It’s cheaper for them.
The proposed reform addresses that problem and allows people to and specify their wishes.
I’m more concerned with the Dems punking out on the Public Option as stated by Senator Durbin yesterday. Why are the Dems acting like they are not in the majority? We, their supporters, are starting to feel betrayed.
they are simply doing what they do.. the bidding of those that put them in office. That’s not you and me, that’s campaign money.. no TV slots, no office.
This is why we needed publicly funded elections with no money coming from any lobbyists or corporations.
It’s true. If the dems wimp out on the public option, the reduced insurance rates will never realize.
It’s a good time to contact congressmen and tell them to preserve the public option, negotiate cheaper drugs, do not fix the price of the public option so as to support the false high prices of private insurance.
Problem is, they’re hearing mostly from misinformed constituents. They need to hear from you.
Sadly, my two Republican Senators have already sold out to the insurance industry. Cornyn and Bailey-Huchison. I contacted them and was told they’re gonna fight this thing….”for me.” I’ve made it my life’s mission to get both of them out of government.
At least Kay Bailey will be out of the national government and the dingbat she’ll replace is even worse than she is, and although it’s hard to believe, it is possible. I’ve gotten some letters back from her and her rationale for her positions is rather tortured, to borrow a phrase. Cornyn is just as bad.
Recently I got a letter from KB defending her position against cap and trade because it would raise energy prices. I thanked her for her stand against privatization of the electrical power utilities in Texas because they have raised prices more than 100% from what they were with public utilities. I doubt she’ll appreciate the situation.
I can’t watch Fox News to check on these people because my TV won’t let me. My TV threatened to run away and opt for foster care if ever I should turn on Kilmeade, Doocy, O’Reilly, etc. My three cats would call the Humane Society if ever I dared switch to cable channel no. 25 (Fux News).
I use the TV mute button frequently because the sound of Sarah Palin’s voice or the mention of her name causes pains that mimic what it would be like to wipe your butt with a cabbage grater.
I got a voice mail from a friend of mine yesterday who informed me that Newtie Gingrich was on a Sunday talk show. He’s baaaaackkkk, she said. Then I heard the sound of retching and the thudding sound of a body collapsing on the floor.
These people are the real death panel and lying about Congress’s inclusion of one in a health care reform bill is simply their own jealousy at the fear Democrats are somehow cutting in on their turf:
These are the people of torture, Gitmo, Iraq, Blackwater, black prison sites, rape, mayhem, Halliburton, tax cuts to the rich, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and Dick Cheney.
I love watching FOX News, at least they’re in your face about being full of shit and their facial expressions are an endless source of entertainment. They’re not #1 for nothing. My favorite is the host of Fox’s ‘Red Eye’, look at the guys face sometime if you get a chance, he always looks like he’s pushing one out. I’m guessing its caused by a cocaine induced headache, but you never know, maybe he is always pushing one out.
Speaking of dishonesty in reporting, “Clinton: US Supported Iran Protesters ‘Behind the Scenes’”
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/08/09/clinton-us-supported-iran-protesters-behind-the-scenes/
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now that fox news has the Satan endorsement, Roger Ailes can afford to get that new kitten slicing machine he has been looking at. (he detests manual labor and you cant get any good help these days)
may he go and join his idol, St Ronnie. the sooner the better
fox must pay very well to act confused on the air. they act like the democrats had a chance to read the bills tha the bush administration rammed down the throats of the american people that got us into an endless war and economic misery. all for the benefit of the republicans that run the major companies that financed his presidency.
please read “didaster capiutalism” for a thorough review of what the bush administration did.
may W get cancer of the face. and may it have to be cut off.
How do I get an invite to Pelosi’s wine mansion gala?
The panel that Palin ran into was a corporate HMO panel that was determining cost benefit ratios. So what would you rather have a corporation determining care worried about profit or a government plan that juyst pays the bills like MEDICARE? These lying jerks are just so stupid.
FAUX NEWS would not be in business if they told the truth. They are a 24/7 looped sound bite of finger nails scratching a chalk board
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.
–Jonathan Swift
We already have death panels.
The private insurers.
While I’ve never taken that pussy Kilmeade as anything but a joke, after seeing him pee his pants when Jesse Ventura got in his face, I REALLY can’t take him seriously … or Doofey, or the Wasilly Hillbilly … all uninformed, cowardly nitwits.
The real right wing message is “Save the insurance companies. Let the uninsured die.”
Rational people are never going to be able to deal with the Repudlickin’ Party. They are Xians, so it’s their way or the highway , cause Jeebus is on their side. We should offer them a couple of shithole Southern states and let them seceede and form their own Xian police state. If they don’t like that tell them to get their guns and excercise their 2nd ammendment rights. Git ‘er done! I’m tired of listening to their lying crap.
Here’s part of a joke I heard on Coast to Coast. ” A health care manager dies and goes to the pearly gates of Heaven. He says to Saint Peter, ‘Can I stay?’ Saint Peter replies,’Sure, for 3 days’.
“…Seniors in the last lap of their life will be sitting there going to a panel possibly discussing what the best thing for them is.” The Republicans always have a problem with you having a seat at the table and having a say about what is going to happen to you. Slaves don’t have that option. Republicans think slavery is the best thing since bread.
Can any of you homocrats tell us how Obaminations health care will be paid for? Thats right youre too busy living off the govt tit to have a thought about that. hmmm lets see:
- ‘tax the rich’. this is laughable as $ always finds a way to save it self. more jobs will flee the country. then Pelosi will have no one to tax but the middle class. Obama is too much of a COWARD to cut the military by 2 trillion and bring the troops home from overseas, which must be done. we’ll then add another 3 million to the unemployed.
can ANY of you morons have a cogent discussion about how this would actually work in the US? EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD that has socialized medicine practices euthensia? Obama brownshirt goal is to eliminate the old, the sick and other non productive people, because doing this at the same time SAVES MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY FROM CERTAIN BANKRUPTCY! Thats right..pay all your life into SS/Medifraud then have it ripped away early when you get sick and die.
All you demos do is namecall but have no real answers. Did any of you read the Obamacare legislation? Do we have to cite chapter and verse where it clear discusses care rationing, free care for illegals, and other Obaminations? Lets see if any of you can actually discuss how this will be better than the current broken system.
Speaking about not having read the legislation, it clearly spells out in small words so that even the most illiterate GOOPer can understand that anyone not legally in the US is ineligible for medical insurance benefits. Not a single country in the world practices euthanasia. As even the nonwackjob wing of the GOP has said (Sen. Isaakson), the bills clearly calls for a living will, something that all health care facilities already push now. Rationing is not part of any of the bills. In contrast, rationing right now is based on your ability to pay and whether or not your insurance, if you have any, is willing to cover your medical care. That means that at least 45 million Americans without insurance (considering the number of people who have lost their insurance along with their jobs, this number assuredly has risen drastically) are being denied access to routine medical care. Then there are the God knows how many with inadequate coverage who also are being denied routine medical care. When it costs $100 just to walk into the doctor’s office and any examinations or treatments are on top of that, insurance policies that only pay catastrophic illnesses mean that you don’t get routine health care.
Anyone who has read any parts of the bills under consideration knows that the ranting of sickof usabs is just an example of what happens when a sorry education meets a demagogue.
another right wing metro sexual moron that takes pleasure and pride at being a stupid shill.
I am having a difficult time listening to this rediculous argument about saving the status quo inept healthcare system. The same people who are crying about changing it will be the loudest cryers to change it once they are denied procedures to save their lives. It is only a matter of time, in a for profit health care system, that unless you are in the epitome of health, virtually everyone will be affected and will be denied healthcare.
Instead of the right or the left on this issue, the question should be why don’t the employers of Congress, the American people, get the same healthcare package as the emloyees, our illustrious politicians. That would be a grassroots movement that could catch on fire !!!
Faux News needs to shut up and go away. We also need to vote that slug Pelosi out of office.
watching these staged townhall meetings i was pleased to see
the ditto heads have suddenly remembered that we have a constitution
after spending 8 silent years watching it shredded beyond recognition.
i dont like obama and the health care legislation is a sell out to the
insurance lobby, who paid the congress to bend over like the whores
they are. the only thing firing up the overweight pasty white crowds
at the town hall theatres is that its a black guy named barak whos
taken over as the dictator, hes pretty much sticking to bush policies
still 2 never ending wars,wall street fleecing the tax payers, corporations
the only constituencies thats matter. but damn it, we would feel alot
more comfortable if we had a bible thumping white dude oppressing us.
this country is just rediculous!
Single payer?
Medicare for all?
Off the table?
Just like Impeachment was?!
Here’s what I don’t understand.
Why and how can ANYONE that has even half a brain in their head, be AGAINST healthcare?
I mean, come on!
The only people that could logically be so would be someone that is rich enough to not ever have to worry about medical bills OR, someone is influencing you to be against changing the system.
Anyone, that has had to deal with insurance companies in the past 15 years or so, or had someone close to them suffer for treatment because insurance companies want to deny coverage would NOT be against changing the system.
Insurance companies are afraid they’ll be made extinct. Ok, I’ll say it… GOOD! After years of insurance companies collecting premiums and not wanting to pay claims in order to secure bigger profit. Good and Good!
What the hell is wrong with sending the message that eventually, you pay for your greed? Seems that’s a lesson many people needed to learn quite sometime ago. Perhaps we would not be in the mess we’re in now, had these greedy people learned that years ago, instead of “Greed if Good!” Because it’s NOT! Where’s their “christianity” when it comes to that little idiom? Conveniently, they always seem to forget that.