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Ex-CIA agent: ‘What is it that they know and when did they know it?’


By David Edwards and Stephen Webster

Published: July 9, 2009
Updated 4 months ago




Former Central Intelligence agent Jack Rice is highly skeptical of his one-time employer’s honesty, and he is not afraid to forcefully air his doubts.

Speaking to MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann about new Congressional testimony indicating that CIA briefer deceived Congress repeatedly since 2001, Rice dredged up a staple question of Washington, D.C. journalism: “What is it that they know and when did they know it?”

His Wednesday night interview came on the legs of a letter by seven House Democrats who claimed CIA Director Leon Panetta’s disclosure in secret testimony that the agency had “affirmatively lied” to Congress on a number of “significant operations” over the last eight years.

The subject of those lies has yet to be disclosed and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Silvestre Reyes (D-TX) has threatened to launch an investigation. The CIA believes the testimony does not contradict Panetta’s prior statement that it is not the agency’s “practice or policy” to mislead Congress, even though it reportedly has.

“If they actually, purposefully lied here, the next piece of this investigation — I’m thinking about this as a former prosecutor, now — I want to know, was it one briefer who just screwed up?” Rice incredulously asked. “Was it the CIA who drove them to screw up? Or was it the White House who drove the CIA to tell the briefer to screw up? … That’s the real question now.”

He added that members of Congress who had every lawful reason to expect to be given classified intelligence should be upset that the agency withheld information.

“What is it that they know –” Rice began. “I hate to come back with the old cliche’ — and when did they know it?”

This video is from MSNBC’s Countdown, broadcast July 9, 2009.



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