CIA ‘black sites’ won’t be dismantled; Detainee’s lawyers hope to inspect for evidence of torture
Lawyers for the first Guantanamo Bay detainee to be transferred to US soil for a civilian trial, set for September 2010, asked on Thursday to see the secret CIA prisons where he was allegedly tortured.
The Associated Press reports, “A prosecutor agreed Thursday that the government will not dismantle overseas locations where a former Guantanamo detainee claims he was interrogated by the CIA before he was brought to the United States for trial on terrorism charges.”
“The prosecutor, David Raskin, told U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan that the United States would preserve the locations for now even though it does not plan to use at trial any statements Ahmed Ghailani made while he was in the custody of any other government agencies,” the AP article continues.
Ghailani’s lawyers had argued that “his treatment at the locations will be relevant if the government seeks the death penalty in the case. Raskin said the government has not yet decided whether to seek the death penalty,” the AP reported.
Judge Kaplan quipped that due to the reversal on dismantling the black sites, he won’t “have to look at the classified information no matter how titillating it may be.”
At a hearing here federal judge Lewis Kaplan set the date of September 13, 2010 for the trial of Tanzanian national Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, who was transferred to the United States on June 9.
Ghailani had been held at the Guantanamo Bay prison since September 2006 and is pleading not guilty to charges of taking part in the August 7, 1998 bombing of the US embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya.
According to his attorneys, Ghailani was handed over to US authorities in August 2004 by Pakistani police and was held prisoner in covert “black sites” operated by the Central Intelligence Agency until his transfer to the US naval base in southeast Cuba.
“The inspection of the CIA Black Sites where the defendant was detained, subjected to interrogation techniques, interrogated and made statements is necessary,” argued lawyer Peter Quijano.
Ghailani was subjected to “harsh conditions and harsh interrogation techniques” while detained at the secret prison facilities, he alleged.
The civilian trial means Ghailani is “being held accountable for his alleged role in the bombing of US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya and the murder of 224 people,” Attorney General Eric Holder said last month.
Moving the detainee to the United States was a landmark first step for President Barack Obama’s politically delicate plan to close the controversial prison and move all remaining prisoners to the US justice system or to their home countries.
Revelations about the “black sites,” located overseas sometimes in countries such as Iraq where there is a risk of torture, caused international outrage during former president George W. Bush’s tenure.
Rights groups and media reports have alleged the secret prisons were located in Central and Eastern Europe, including Poland, Romania and in former Yugoslavia, as well as in the Horn of Africa and on US Navy ships.
CIA director Leon Panetta said earlier this year said the agency is “no longer” operating secret prisons and plans to shut all remaining sites.
(with afp report)
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All sites have long since been ’sanitized’ ~
Humans seem to vanish…
CIA black sites won’t be dismantled–ever. And if they are they will simply be moved somewhere else. Wonder when we will see that hoped for “change”. my guess is never since there is little substantive difference between Bush/Cheney policies and Obama policies. Mark my words: there will be NO effective national health insurance plan. Anything that passes will be merely a thinly disguised handout to the industry. I will also go on record to say that neither DOMA nor Don’t ask Don’t tell will be overturned. Obama, like Clinton, ran left but is showing his true colors now that he is power by governing to the right. What a fucking phony. Should have voted for Nader again.
I swear, some people say some of the stupidest stuff on here at times. Well, not just here. Seems that everywhere I go someone is saying something that is NOT true. Such as this stuff:
“Obama, like Clinton, ran left but…”
Savior Obama did NOT run left. Neither did Clinton. Where do some people get this stuff from? Savior and War Criminal Obama never claimed to be “liberal” or “progressive.” What is the reality is that many so-called “liberals” and so-called “progressives” PROJECTED THEMSELVES onto their savior Obama and that’s, in part, how he got that “left” label nonsense. In addition, the lies that came from the rabid right-wing trash gasbags called talk show hosts helped create that phony image of savior Obama supposedly being “left.” Because in their twisted “mind,” anyone with a D behind their name is automatically a “liberal.” WRONG. But if one actively listened to what savior Obama actually said during the campaign—outside of his feel-good pabulum speeches designed for the sheep—such as talk about attacking Iran and Pakistan and other neocon rhetoric, that ain’t left. Period. He made many empty promises to dupe those who allowed themselves to be duped. Suckers.
The only people on the true left who ran were Kucinich, Nader and McKinney. But as we know, most people didn’t have the intelligence or foresight to vote for any of them. And Kucinich has a D behind his name!
See how fucked up things can get when a few power hungry sadistic bastards get into high levels of government.
Obama doesn’t dare whisper dissent against the shadow government’s agenda for fear for his own life.
Yeah right. Why would savior Obama dissent with people he’s in agreement with and has been in agreement with? Did you not examine savior Obama’s Bush-accomplice voting record from the senate? He’s going along with it because he believes in the shadow government of Bush/Cheney.
Horray for change.. Yippitie shit!
I see allot of party line partisans here. Mainly leftists, but there’s soem right wingers too.
They’re easy to spot.. They’re the ones always bitching and blaming the opposing party for all of our woes.
Frankly and factually, both parties colluded on this issue.
The Democrats, and specifically Nancy Pelosi, played goalie for Bush’s war crimes. Clinton kept the sanctions on Iraq to soften them up. With TARP, both parties called their constituents too stupid to be trusted to decide such matters and just ran right over them to satisfy their wall street masters. Etc, etc.. On and on..
Our party leaders don’t squabble on issues of importance to them.. They collude for their own betterment.
These people don’t work for us anymore.
“There are only two things we should fight for,” said Butler. “One is the defence of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket…
A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.
I spent 30-three years and four months in active military service… I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I helped make Mexico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
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Only 7 am and my washing machine is broke,,maybe if I go to Sears the Rotchilds’ will send a set of red haired twins again,,,
Another birthday today,,Happy Birthday daughter Christy.
In honor of your birthday will post off and on today to tell everybody what the ROTHCHILD”S MK Ultra Program is all about..
Maybe will start with the present and work back first..
So the Rothchilds MK Ultra horror works on negative emotion to scar your brain,and of course the best candidate is any parents first born..
They have also shown me how they REALLY HATE the FEMALE GENDER..woman are there best little whores for MK Ultra,
Is that why on the Yahoo Stock Message board in May 2001 you said my daughter was a whore?
I’m thinking that other force/law probably saved the script from the Yahoo Stock Market message board,,
So we steered her into Sky Diving for several reasons a BIG one was to try and induce fear in me…
Just remember threw all this I had 2 forces,,the Rothchild’s and another force buffering,,,,
First we had her throw her degree in the garbage and become a skydiver,,
This was a big jerk,,we worked hard to get help her get a degree,,
At 19 she had her BA..
They then would have people via MK say comments to me like this,,”Boy that’s a dangerous occupation”,,,”Aren’t you worried?”
Have to keep that flame of fear alive for MK Ultra..
Then the law tapped the Rothchild’s and there helpers on the shoulder,and the fun began…
At this point I thought this was being done to me because of corruption,,
So we had the Bush Sr. displayed across TV in his skydiving suit.
We resurfaced the death of a woman skydiver in LaCrosse..a few miles from my home…
We had my daughter tell me about her hero’s/mentors brush with death in sky diving,,
Of course they prep decades ahead so they probably took down this plane of skydivers down years ago…
There seemed to be a spree of skydivers deaths…and of course displayed
in the Media big and large..
In some of these skydivers deaths,,I would read it on the front of Yahoo,,didn’t know where my daughter was at the time,,wasn’t able to reach her on the phone(Rothchilds’ MK at work),,,and of course this would be tense…
There seemed to be a rash of skydivers dieing and displayed on National news,,,
Via Rothchilds MK Ultra we then had the song put out the radio via Rothchilds MK Ultra,,
“I went skydiving,rocking mountain climbing,etc,,I hope you have the chance to live like you were DIEING”…
Of course they stepped up in high gear people saying comments,,
“I would never skydive,,I would be afraid of dieing”,,etc.etc,etc…
Then the woman’s team that was headed to France for the World Championship,,OH my, one of the ladies suddenly died in the night,,,
Unknown causes,,
Wasn’t it special they asked my daughter to fill in while we cranked up the song,,
“I hope you get the chance to live like you were dieing”…
There’s more,,they were working on overtime to get me to Britney..
But some force put this seed in my thoughts years ago,,’
“Mom don’t worry,,if I go,,know that I will be doing something I love”..
They had to resurface this little thought a few times during the above…
The above was constant after the law tapped them on the shoulder..
Will come back and close with this,,
It wasn’t very nice of you in April/May 2001 to send emails implying my daughter was being stalked,,and could be raped,,,
All brought to me by Rothchilds MK Ultra…